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The following podcast contains if you like your language and adult discussion. Let's get ready for the stampede. I'm going to go with the tape first today, I got a gig in my click this Kevin Nash podcast kept you there. Yes, I'm here. Where did you hide your gig when you had to? Always. I always used a. It was crazy because, you know, like all the old time guys would get a razor blade, they'd cut it up into a pair of scissors. Yeah. And I always went to the. Whoever was their medic or whatever, and. I've still got background, I'm still listen to her background music. Yeah, we're still we're still coming up. Oh, we're just coming in. Come on, it's slow. That's that's too far too much for me to really groove to that, to talk about the I would I would always use a scalpel. God damn. Really? Yeah, I use a scalpel. What should you cut the scalpel in half? I don't know if people even know how you gig, but see this is see, this is the. This is a pencil. So that's the end of the end of the decade, right into the scalpel. She's put white teeth. Either that or that top singh's c**k, you could you put white tape around it to where you have it, the depth that you want that little shark's tooth to always cut the same place. So it's cut right here in the hairline. Yeah, we're here. It wasn't doing the. You know. Do you have any any scar tissue up there now, or was it fine enough that you didn't? Yeah, I was not. Yeah, I only got color when it was absolutely necessary. I'm trying to remember ever seeing you bleed, I can't color with Booker one time in the Championship match. Hell in a cell. Right. Who showed you how to do it, did you? Barry Windham really very, very showed me everyone over his remembers who did their first funny too, because we're in Knoxville, Tennessee, where the show and I was, I was working in a tag match against Jack Gonzales and I f**king made a I made a blade and Jack Gonzales gave me like the karate chops before I staggered away from. I got color turned back into him. He looked me like. I have a question about him later, we're going to talk about. We'll talk about why we're talking with a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff, guys. You're loving what we're doing. I always give you some feedback. One of the promises we've made to our people, Kevin, is that they would always be part of the show. So we always want to hear their feedback good or bad, a lot less bad. I'm noticing LMA said. Unfortunately, you got it wrong in the show last week show about Vince has said. But Vince was accused for forcing a wrestler into an act that was the seven point five payoff story mentions the word coerced sex OK, so that there was one coerced, allegedly coerced into the Wall Street Journal story. Allegedly. Of course, there's not been a trial or anything. So, yeah, so I mean, I just I could only go on, you know? You are allegedly popped in the a*s and summer of 1992, right? Exactly until it's proven, we know it was funny. Some of the feedback like, Wow, I can't believe you covered that. I. Would you like me to talk about Santa Claus? It's next week after the boxer stampede Blue Elvis, our son, is about to go into surgery for his manhood. This is a time to Blucher, maybe something that needs to be done for medical reasons. Wish us luck. He's a huge fan of Big Daddy Cool, so we sent him a little, you know, good luck. And then a day later, we got a picture of the baby and it's said He's all good. Everything went smooth. He's as tough as the hit man he was named after little Bret. Thanks everyone for the positive vibes. So blue Elvis and little Bret. Happy to hear that you guys are doing good that little. Very much so. Doing well. Rob Palmer. I listen every week. I turn it up to 11 soft. Thank you, Rob. Anthony are my favorite part of Starrcast events was. Click this live Kevin Ash kayfabe. Shawn should take the stage show on the road. Very entertaining now. Of course, that is in the plans. Kev. Yep. What are some good seats now, you're much more well-traveled than I? So what what do you think would be hot cities as hot as Nashville? Perhaps for a little live, click this action. I mean, just any place that's a liberal, would you go you go two ways you can go, you're going to go to the biggest metropolitan areas that you can find like, you know, cool venues or you can. But I don't like the bar that that bar thing when it's at a bar. But nothing like that's that's not my gig. Yeah. So but at let's see, let's throw out one. You know, there's a fan, I don't know if he wrote us this or if he's in here, you tend to. Oh, Wilkes-Barre, Wilkes Bar. You tend to throw out a lot. So somebody actually sent a shout out. I guess he's from will expire up here. How would that be? That'd be good. That'd be a good spot to which would look into a little bar action. A little city. All right. Works and playing off of that last comment. Cowboy s**t says, Please come to Michigan Big Kev. I'm a third shift autoworker and you and Sean make my job fun. Hope to attend a show soon. Of course, we got to go to the home state, right? I mean, all I got, I've got my hallway in the back there where. Oh, go. Oh, sorry about that. A third, a third shift, UAW, where his working, he's got to be working either rouge. Or war? What are those plant names or city names, Rouge puts it putting up to put out the Mustang there? Or Flat Rock? I think maybe maybe it's Flat Rock, they do that now. But a cowboy s**t, let us know where you work, where you're working at, what plants you work in, a retro gamers says Argh. I love the wrestling podcast The Good Ones, but I really hate getting 7000 video clips in my feed of stuff I've already seen in full format. I really wish there was a separate channel for the clips of each. You know, I just got to say it. If we put stuff on and charged people for it, they would take to the streets with torches. OK, so you put stuff out for free in some way and maybe cut some clips on YouTube to make some money to keep a show going and keep it free for people? And that's a f**kin problem for people. It's it's just folks, you know, it's either it's either a pay system or it's or it's a it's an ad system. Come on, guys. Really, really. So, f**kin Freeman, you put this on whenever you want. I know I'm sorry, you get notifications, retro game. I'm sorry that you got a notification this week. You know that Kevin talked about X Y Z on the last show. Just this new this new breed of of of media fan. Not to be inconvenienced in any way. OK, starting hot, I came out hot today. I'm so I'm a photograph, food poisoning, so I'm kind of. Are you sitting on a bucket or something? Do you have some towels down just in case or if I did, this is. Code Brown. Yeah. All right, Pat Buck. A professional wrestler and recently hired, I think Pat was hired as the. I'm going to get the title wrong the blah blah blah vice executive of something training, maybe at a. I worked with Pat and his federation for a while when I was producing a wrestling reality TV series. But Pat's a good guy and I'm glad to see he got hired there and he was a good talent and he said, really need more of Nash's wine picks? Does he enjoy any rosé or sauvignon blanc electrodes in the summertime? As as a as difficult to find an acceptable Rosie as a red, I know you're very picky with your reds, they can because most of the roses are like 12 percent alcohol. I found a couple. One is actually it's it's French, but it's it's actually an English would be travel. But the structures will travel less like a 14 five rosé, and it kind of looks like. This is a very, very dark, you know, so I thought pink was it's a very dark. Dark colored. I'll tell you one that's that I like is that Maribel, the one that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had a piece of. I don't know if they still do, but. That's a tasty a tasty rosé for 21, 23 bucks. Would you wanted a piece of Angelina ever or just too crazy for you with the blood around the neck and everything, just a little too much of the crazies with Angelina or hot enough? She was that was one of my, you know, when you go to, I just wish I always thought she was attractive. Ever, ever subtractive, ever since she drove off with Chuck Zito and Gia. So Alger, right, that film about the fashion model Rabbit, yeah, she had some nice exposure in that in that film. Michael, I agree with Nash. 223 556 is a varmint round. I have no f**king idea. Are you going to have to help me? And is trash for big game hunting? If you're going to hunt and kill an animal than you owe it enough respect to give it a quick, clean death? Plus, who the f**k wants to track an animal for a long time if you don't need to? Everybody that said that they use it and they are 15 have done some modification where it's basically a 30 six that they're shooting. It's not it's not the combat round that tumbles. And, you know, it's just like. What's up form at round? Of all my pronouncing it right, yeah, a former sick rat rodent chipmunk. Squirrel, oh, so the AG Oh, so you're talking about the animal, like burnt, like a vermin farm it? Yeah, very good. There is a type of bullet. f**k Duane, I'm from New Jersey. Have to go through hell to get a gun. You could shoot it with a f**king Benjamin air rifle. Point 177 air rifle if I can kill it. They shoot them three. King Dres, people who hunt with the AR 15 for coyotes and boars, no, not deer or squirrels, and the only reason they use an AR 15 for those are because we've got to get our articles right here because you can get a 223 caliber one and bigger magazines. That makes sense to some people out there. Probably, right, Kev. I don't know, I lived in Arizona where coyotes are our property. I mean. I want to think that I shot one of the of the boards with the 30-odd six. Probably one hundred ninety two hundred foot shot. Mm hmm. You know what, the most passionate debate on Twitter was this week. It had nothing to do with guns. I mean, in the beginning, it was all that stewardship. But the most passionate debate this week was between listeners. Talking about your suggestion about being able to do more for Raw with two hours as opposed to the three and people, people were getting hot, hot and passionate about listing their reasons why a three hour was necessary versus people who were saying If you trimmed it down and got more concise, you could do more two hours. Do you see any of that? I tell you what it is, I watch Raw. And lo and behold, for a while there, Raw was, you know. Was it, you know, three hours of three minutes, three hours Monday that that motherf**ker was not so? And on top of that, it's a. Chapo vs. Bobby Lashley, solid, you know, solid match, clean finish. A.J. Miz, clean finish. I thought the match I really liked was a huge Ziggler fan anyway, but Ziggler and Gable had had a kind of match that started off with a lot of a. Collegiate wrestling and there just had a completely different feel than the spot first that you see a lot of other places. So, you know, I I was the first thing that that I noticed when when Triple H took over the. The show was the first Monday. Becky Lynch came out and basically reclaimed the babyface status that made her super over. And they've kind of corrected that whole thing and that was Bayley coming back. So it seems like the women's division is is. Does it seem it is? It's up and running and it's it was good TV. They're getting a lot of time. Yeah. There are also the women's women's tag tournament started. And so there's some good storyline there, and it's good, it's good because it's it's, you know, it's every week you're following me, you're following the storyline. The storyline is the Championship. So it takes a lot away from. You know. Have this happened, just minutes have been added to the meaninglessly, have just conversations and dialogue and it just, you know, everybody knows what was at stake and you go in and you. And you're asking for the title, if you trimmed the talk right, you you could probably get close to the two hours. You'd have to lose a match or two, but you could probably get close to the two hours just by trimming the skits and the talk. Right? Not that, too. The talk is always bad. I mean, certainly, I mean, we're going to go back. Let's talk about with the NWA opening segment that was always the nine o'clock segment, right? And that, I mean, that was the ratings juggernaut there. So a lot of times, though, we covered 10. That times we've covered this scene, I think, is where we started, hey, you started eight. Vince went on at 9:00, so you guys wanted the hot segment there. They started all the all the the work rate was all the first hour. That was all the Eddie and that crew. But what? But if we talk about two hours now, obviously right, you have to keep you sold to advertisers a three hour show, right? Absolutely. You're charging a certain rate. You're not giving the money back. No, exactly. So you've got to do something with an hour somewhere. It could be like a pre-show or a post-show something, but it would be kind of pulled out from the start to finish raw broadcast. Yes. I still think that there's a place that they can still get that commitment and the same program to go. Like I said Friday night, late do an hour of just, you know, like a roller. More adult driven and do try to get maybe a of them rated show. Oh, I see so. Okay, so split it. So do do Friday night, one hour, Monday night, two hours. And you know, so raw, raw, raw or raw, uncensored Friday and then Monday Night Raw on on Monday. And that's you. Three hours. Yeah. Got it. Understood. You know, I was as I was reading about this week's Raw and I was looking at the the ratings. I often have to remind myself to look at those numbers in like 99, so like, let's look at this. Let's look at this year. Can we bring up a graphic? I have some numbers of this year's ratings. It's if you're watching us, it's on the right side there. And so last night's broadcast right was the easiest move to surrender to the point 2.5 for a week ago. Coming out of SummerSlam, it was 0.6 one a little higher and going into SummerSlam on seven 25. That was point fifty half a point going back before that point forty six, almost half a point on the left side of the screen. I have the f**king raw and nitrous from 1999, and those are full fours, fives sixes, six and a half, six point three, just four. And I'm not the first person to point this out, obviously, but just for a younger fan who maybe doesn't. When people talk about like boom periods in the business and they watch now and they follow now and they follow the ratings, maybe they're into the business aspect. They read Meltzer's letter website just to get your people's heads around what kind of f**king business was done in 99? It's remarkable. And there's there's tens, you know, like you look at, sorry to read that for 14th of March, that it was that a. The 14th is a six point four, six point forty six a ten share, but the ratings points are six point forty six. Yeah, which is a ten share of the audience. I mean, going even back further in the 80s to Saturday night's main event, when they would go up like against it in place of Saturday Night Live, they pull tens. So it's I guess, of course, there's more competition for attention now, entertainment has just become the cable running back, said a cable. One was, I think, 699 back then. But the cable one with six hundred ninety nine thousand homes versus a broadcast, right? Yeah, yeah. So. I was just I had go back and I look at that and I'm looking at how the ratings are doing now and comparing and looking, okay. You know, a 0.5 last week, a point six one this week. You forget they were seven point two's not too long ago. If you my age, not too long ago, if you're 20, it's a lifetime. But I think that was one of the things that were. Monday Night Football was just like, What the f**k, you know? Expressly thing isn't going away. Oh yeah, when it started cutting in back then. Oh yeah, because you look at like 1985 or whatever, it's like a Monday Night Football is doing like a 20 year ridiculous. But then when in the 90s with wrestling, they were still doing good numbers, it was in the teens. It was like the low teens, 12, 13, 14, but wasn't like before it before that. I always thought it was the. The loss of Dun Dun Meredith, the Don Meredith that was that was the I was the finger poker dome for Monday Night Football, not when they told Howard that he couldn't call, you know, art monk a look at that little monkey run. Oh, that was Jimmy the Greek? No, no, Jimmy. The Greek did the extra bone in the leg gimmick, the at the bar. They came up to him and they asked for if anyone doesn't know there was a commentator prognosticator Jimmy, the Greek who gave the the odds for those that liked to lay a little money on football. And so someone came up to him at a bar and asked him why he thought the African-American athlete was superior, clearly baiting a very intoxicated Jimmy, the Greek who went on to explain into a microphone that black people were born with an extra bone in their legs. This isn't me. This is you. Look it up. And now that was the end of Jimmy the Greek. Shortly thereafter, he took. I'm speaking of speaking of FBI raids. Does anyone in your was anyone in your safe today? Have enough? No. Wow. What the f**k, right? Well, what did the knights have diarrhea to to? You need some probable cause to be able for them to come in and go into your safe caves, so anyone where we know of that might have had someone in there safe. There's probably a lot of probable cause. Yeah, my my old thing is I watched I watched a lot. I watched Fox almost non-stop last night and today. And if you're the runs? Yeah. But it's it's one of those situations where if she didn't do anything wrong. We basically just gave them Trump 2024. If it exonerated and then there's nothing found, there's no that's a problem. Sure. I mean, because then because there was a an old saying, this is back in my SPC days, the guy that came up with it was damning and damning, which would do lectures. And he would say that when somebody gets on a plane and they put down the the. The f**k is that thing called the trade. They put down the tray and there was a coffee stain on it, and they hadn't used it yet. They would immediately go. f**k anybody. Maintenance on the engines. And that's kind of what this does to this, this if this witch hunt, you know, is a witch hunt, and so all of a sudden it's like, well, maybe there was credence to this, maybe there's credence to this. But when they sat there on Fox News this afternoon, they had a panel and the one lady who used to be a judge who's just. I mean, I think they just wind her up just for f**king soundbites. But she's going on about it. It could just as easily been about something that was going on in Georgia. Yeah, he's up in New York for that deposition. She namely name things he's involved in. I'm to think of myself like. Yeah, that's a it's a bit of an indictment there. Yeah, and you're you're actually f**king lying low on a right wing television like they should be kind of excited because they would sleep. They obviously probably didn't watch it, but they probably are taking the position that is that he s**ts ice cream and, you know, he hasn't done anything wrong. So this is clearly going to exonerate him publicly. They should be very excited that they went into that. I heard last night when it first came, I was watching A.. This is this is the typical night for me. I was watching NBA TV. I was watching a 1987 game for Celtics versus the Lakers. So when they passed the f**king ball and I yeah, and I f**king so I. I'm. I picked up my, you know, my my phone just to see what's going on because I've been watching this game for like an hour. And. I see where it's Trump's statement. So I walk into the kitchen and my wife sitting there with him or my mother in law and I said, Farkas is juice here, but if I carried it, my merlot to sit, I'm watching it right now, so sit down. And I'm watching this, and at that point it was a hundred agents. And you know. Everything else that ended up being 30 agents. I didn't get where this. How was the pre-dawn? They said it was free that nothing coincided with with anything they said that they said that they went in and nobody had. They went in plain clothes. They didn't have the blue windbreaker with the yellow FBI on it. You know, they went in plain closed. And, you know. They kept showing the aerial view of Mar a Lago, I'm taking a motherf**ker's is worth how many billion you can't get that roof fixed thinking like a blue tarps off the top. What the hell. But it's off season two. Yeah, I think closes down in the hotter months. Yeah. But I just I just I looked at that last night and then there was like people that were along the beach, like down the roadways, like they were waiting for a speck of a space shot or something. I just, oh, it's like when they line up on the space coast, when they get to the launch, just like, what were they expecting? Like, I saw flags. Are you that f**king stupid that you didn't really? I showed him on Fox News getting into the back of a suburban or whatever the f**k it was, you know, in New York City. Well, more to come on that. Yeah. You mentioned a couple of weeks ago you did some work with Amos. Right? The big guy and I wanted to ask you something he he I didn't realize I was reading up on him today. It's kind of an interesting figure. Former basketball player, I guess, Central Florida versus Central Florida or something. No, that's that's that's. Taco Taco Fall was played there. No, where did he play, though, I thought he I think he's Nigeria. He's Nigerian, but I thought he played in in the States. All right. Wow. Well, I'll look. My research is flawed. So but anyway, what's not flawed is the fact that he's a big motherf**ker and he's been there for two years. I didn't realize this. And the piece I was reading, they were positing that Vince in his he's a stubborn cat, I guess, right? So he gets something in his head and he's going to make it work. And so they were talking about or writing about the inability to get him in the sweet spot where they wanted him as a big guy and that he may be. But Vince stayed with them. But he may be more in jeopardy now, as trips might have a little less of a tolerance. So I'm going to ask you as a big guy, what is it that keeps a big guy intriguing year over year? You know, if you could well, I off something 11 different ways. It's one thing to keep a big guy scary. What he had to do. Well, I don't think you put them against two to two guys under no one broadcast and don't even announce who these two guys are just very well. It really doesn't f**king matter because this match doesn't f**king matter because we know what the outcome is. I don't think that helps. How about the headgear, did that the headgear had any credibility? Yeah, that something maybe was going to happen there? Yeah, especially when he had a chance to do that, he jumped on his back. Not that single leg diver or anything. Nothing, you know, nothing had were the headgear worthy was was produced. There could have had so much fun with that. I would have given them the names of classic joggers like AJ Petrusma, Phil Mulkey, Rusty Brooks. I would have should've never took him again away from AJ. But they turned A.J. Styles. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what you you. You learn so much, you know, I learned so much being charged by the guard. You know. But it's a different and he's a different animal to man, he's a lot. He's a legitimate with the South Florida's, where he went South Florida through west South Florida of. He this legitimate seven to probably. You know, yeah, it's a bigger. This is a bigger is, sometimes it just. We always had our philosophy in the car was. The only way you can get over is chicks got to want to f**k, yeah, and guys got to want to be like, you, right? The old actor, that's nice. Yeah, so it's a James Dean deal. Yeah. So if you if you like if they made him like instead of a giant, if they made him a, you know, like his family was incredibly rich and mineral rights. And because he's articulate, you know, it's like he's out there going, Oh, well, the monster. Oh yeah, that's a good thing. You know? But let's look at some of the big guys right from from the present company excluded, OK, is never to be able to be totally objective. You mentioned Gonzales before, right? OK, Carly. More recently was a big show, and if you go back for the Andre Stud big guys that were successful versus big guys that had a shelf life. Now Andre is a totally different category because he was the novelty act. He was never considered to really be assimilated and melted into the melting pot of the roster. He came into town. It was like years ago that he was just an attraction. Right? But guys that were roster guys like Big Show, Big Show was over that. Why was Paul over? But like a collie like other than the dance, I guess, like it never would have worked. Is that all about the mike? Yeah, Paul, it's all right. OK? So if you get sent to developmental and as a kid, what's the what's the magic here? It's it's focus more on Mike with the big guys. But there's a natural thing too. I mean, focus on the mike. There are some guys who maybe just can never make interesting on the mike they don't come across. There's just something they could talk their heads off. You get to give them a script. You could have paper, write it. It's just never going to happen. There's not a magnetism to some guys. Yeah, but at the same time, you've got it. You've got to do it. We'll find out what they like. You know, you got to find out what their interests are. You're going to be a lot more interesting if we're talking about things that are extreme to you. So a Gonzales story for you, I I just finished doing Todd Gordon's autobiography with him, and he has a story where Bill Alfonso, the ref for a manager in ICW, was on the road as Caley Knuckle, excuse me, giant Gonzales, his handler for a while and manager and got a call late at night to come down to the room. And he comes in and Gonzalez tells Fonzie, he's like, Listen, you f**ked this girl for me. I, you know, she can't. She can't take me right now. She can't take all me. I need you to be the opening match, basically, and talk about a time when managers really took care of their talent. Like, I don't know how many times Freddy Blas he got called down to do it for four. Killer Con. Yeah, that came though, too, you know? What's that? But bloodshed that came. Oh, that's true, too, like he could shoehorn some s**t in there, right? I like an elk. But yeah, so I don't I don't know. It's interesting to see, I love, I love to watch stuff like that. How do you get out of a creative conundrum? Well, Triple H continue. It said he could do it. The big guy is the big guy just going to the camera and he's been off for a while, the calorie packed. Last night, I just I think it was just to the show, you know, as he was still there, that had new gear. I know he's working out because I seen some videos of working while working out, so maybe he looked tighter. You know, he looks in better shape. You know, he's he can move. I mean, it's just. His problem. What is the problem? Well, in my time there, you know, there's there was always a plethora of six foot five, 300 pound guys. That's true. You know, so you always had, you know? I mean, it's sort of like Henry Godwin, who was like six foot five, three hundred and twenty pounds who could just snatch me and sidewalks. I mean, he could just there were, you know, there were guys that could and he could mow Phineas mother. You know, Papa Shango Kid was six six over 300. He could move. I mean, you had a ton of guys that you could work with. And have, you know, athletic type matches instead of, you know, the battle of the dinosaurs? Yeah. So you can't get Ernie Roth trying to open up a rat for Billy Graham out of my head. It'll it'll it'll go, though eventually. Listen, it's time for the stiff one of the week. And you know, our sponsor on the staff, one of the week is, you know, we're talking about a guy like almost right now. 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Shawn Michaels and Kevin Nash then approached me in Germany about being the head of the clinic. I didn't know that we would all take control of the top matches and we would decide who worked with who. We would take control of the whole company and start, you know, like Triple H would wrestle Shawn and one two three Kevin Russell. I remember Shawn tell me, would Russell 1-2-3 kid in Triple H and Razor Ramon? He was going to all that we're going to do is work with our friends. You know, they're going to leave out everybody else in the dressing room from all under Savio Vega and everywhere. Anyone else that deserved a from Lex Luger or to whoever you can think of that they would all get bypassed over and it would be just Shawn's friends and Kevin's friends and 1-2-3 kid would wrestle Shawn for the belt and they'd all they'd control all the belts and they'd control who makes the money and who gets paid, and they were gone. I don't want to be part of anything like that. It's not fair to the other wrestlers and say everybody has a chance. If you're good enough to beat me and someone someone's good enough to be the champion, then he'll be the champion because he's good good enough. I want to ask you first if you guys asked him to take control of your click for you. I don't remember having the conversation, but. Would you have relinquished? Control of your group to bread, is it something that might have happened? We travel together, right? But I mean, the thing is that if you look at the. That's the last match that before the the Klick was disbanded. It was Diesel and Shawn Michaels were the main event in a cage for the world title. Triple H was fighting Paul for the icy bell. Seems to me like we had all the belts anyway, so. So you're saying maybe you didn't need, Bret, is that what I'm hearing now? If I did, I'd be happy that he was great. I had had some of my best matches with Bret, so it didn't hurt when he signed that WCW contract in your head that no nations either did it. Well, I did a significant role in your family's life. Now, Bret, so I've always. I think he had more problems with with different people are Glickman than me. Shawn, obviously, we could say. I mean, there's just, you know, Brett and I never had a problem. Well, right. Florida man or a jersey guy. I'm going to read you two items now. Are you going to tell me who's the Florida man? Who's the jersey guy? We had Czechoslovakian dude to this. Well, next week. Next week is the the outer banks of Bulgaria versus host the coastal towns of Czechoslovakia. Guy. Nice. All right, man. Arrested after buying meth and asking cops to test its authenticity. Well, it sounds like my neighborhood and the next and B opera singer can't work due to uncontrollable flatulence. I'm going to go actually sounds like your condo right now, but I'm going to go, I'm going to go with meth. What is methamphetamine Florida and what is an uncontrollable the s**ts? New Jersey, the drizzling shifts up north, you're absolutely correct. Yeah. Yet again, Kevin can't say meth or not, but that's like. So it's a national f**kin flower down here. Well, let's see. The city state the obvious the opium state, poppy state, flowers, f**king Sudafed. Well, it wouldn't be the poppy acts right? It would be. The meth is always kitchen maid, right? Yes, Sudafed, Sudafed and your Drano. A Florida man was arrested for phoning the police to have some meth tested for authenticity after he purchased it from a local bar. Fox 13 reports. Thomas Eugene Colucci of Spring Hill called 9-1-1 because he was worried he had purchased bath salts, telling officials he was an experienced drug user who knew it should feel different to smoke. Pull it back up ! You know, didn't he just read the check for like $49 million? It take the beard off various other boardrooms getting his name, and let's say. Reference to Alex Jones, I want to so, uh, let's see, the other item was the yeah, the opera singer. See, this is the case. I can see this, but when you can't work because it's so chronic, hit a damned. This is the story. Bah bah bah bah opera singer can no longer perform due to what is termed uncontrollable flatulence flatulence. Singer Amy, her best, her best, ended up in the hospital after allegedly screwing a procedure that prevented her from returning to the opera stage. Very unfortunate. Very unfortunate there. All right. We'll be back. Triple H is next. If someone relies on you financially, your spouse, your child, anyone. Life insurance gives you the peace of mind that they'll have a financial cushion if something ever happens to you. 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Yeah, but on the heels of this, you know, Triple H is getting all the ink too in in in every story. Now that that references Vince's retirement, the transition of creative to Triple H curves allowed to call and Paul is is the story. So I wanted to take an episode to get inside. Triple H, it's kind of an enigma. I don't read a lot of dirt about him. I don't read a lot of stuff about him in all my years covering this business. Whatever you call, whatever the f**k I used to do. He was a guy that was usually off the radar, so I thought, who better than his best friend to talk about him as a person, a worker philosophy of? And maybe by learning the artist, you'll learn about the work to come. So I first want to know when you first became aware of him. We first we. We were on the road every Saturday, Sunday, and once like we we talked last week once we did those tapings and it was, you know, 21, 23, whatever it was, straight day. So we're always on the road on the weekends and a lot of times, you know, for some reason, like weekends, you didn't travel, it didn't like wasn't such a push was usually larger towns on the weekends that we ran. And yeah, so if you were in Chicago, you'd still stay in Chicago and maybe make it after, you know, stay an extra night or so like that. And we'd always watch the WCW Saturday show, and he was terrorized at the time. That's right. That's right. It was his character. He was like, he was like our favorite guy. He was like the clicks favorite guy. No, because my man terrorizes TV from a fan standpoint. Yeah, just we like to watch. You know, we just. It was just our guy. So what did so he we were somewhere we're with. I want to think we're Massachusetts or someplace, but Kowalski killer Kowalski had broke Paul in. So Kowalski brought Paul to TV, and Paul, have I got slacks and a f**kin sports coat? Now? Polo. And he walked by us and then Scott did that thing we like. Like, walk behind somebody, step for step you probably big Paul turns around, looks A. f**king Scott, you know f**king well. So then he had his trial match and we were all at the court, of course, it was a f**king monitor sellout. And. Then he got drunk, he did really well, and we tried to get him like immediately who travel with these one with them, you know, with Kowalski. So like, okay, well, next to the TVs, you're with us. And why so? Well, how do you get how to get there so fast? Because we know I mean, he was already like like he was anointed before he got in because he was he was terrorizing. And then he went out there and tore it up. So just like, f**k man, like he was. I mean, he had the kind of he worked like, you know, like he worked like the rest of us, did you know? Right. And. Plus, the fact that he wouldn't like to leave Kowalski, you know, like he would not like, I came here with Walter, I was going to stay with Walter, right? You know, it's like, you know, a little bit old school that we all appreciate. And the next the next trip we have is like, I think we're like Portland. Maine is the first first night. And. Kid Eats Kid goes in a couple too many summers, where to Denny's, if I can just I mean, and like full shakes. And we have to basically just. We got bail, we got to get out before we get in trouble, so we get out there and like, you know, Sean, that kind of gives kid kind of a smack in the face like, come on over, snap out of it. Scott gives him one of the crowds. You get some of the work. We're almost back above before this first day and jumped right in. Good for him. Yeah. And I mean, it was one of those deals where we were up all night wrestling with kid and in a cold shower like like make him go in the shower, then walk him up and down the hallway. So he didn't, you know, we didn't know if he's going to do dear what? And so. I mean, this goes on all night. He started to fade out like, come on. And he's fight man. He's, you know, he's wiry and strong and she's like, Maniac strong. This taken all of us to hold him in this ice cold shower and walk up and down. Always, we got the, you know, the robe from the hall, the hotel that were putting him in to walk them up down the hallway. Finally, we're about six o'clock. He falls asleep, and then I just sit there and I made sure he was breathing at about nine o'clock. He woke up. I was just sitting there looking at him, he just looked at me, guys. Love your math. Just want to go and take this time to say thank you for saving my life. Louise Turner went to bed and I think that I mentioned the word cool. So that was like the poll's intro to traveling with us, like the first day is like, what the well I was going to say. I never would have gotten in the car with you again. That would that would have been it. Not babysitting till nine in the morning. Well. You know, I'm like, I'm not cut out for it, I can never be a member of the clique. Now I wanted to ask you, though, now Sean Waltman, the work rate I want to talk about work rate HBK Scott Waltman were gave the verdict on you already with the five moves. But when you guys would ride with someone, was the work rate something that was important that. Got that guy over with you. Yeah. To be on the road, I mean, because. It's so different when when you're in, I'll always make references, you know, like I was for the money was a, you know, it wasn't for the money back there because we were get paid s**t. We of my balls stuck to the inside of my thigh here. Adjusting the bedpan? Yeah. So. But. When we got in the car at night, man, it was f**king. It was like it was like Brady or somebody watching films like we went over everybody's mad spots, but a of that we never did. It wasn't like, you know. Name your top five albums. Well, we talk business 24-7. And if you weren't in that mindset, then there wasn't a place for you in that car. Did all of you want to be in a creative position in a major company or did you all just enjoy performing? We just wanted to. We wanted to have the ability to go out, work with each other and then for the next four and a half hours, get a van, drink beer and put each other over how great we were. Right. No aspirations to be on the writing team with this short booking with Beyonce. They are. But I mean, there was Paul showed like early signs of brilliance when they booked the second ladder match. And Vince basically told Scott and Shawn that they could not use the ladder as a weapon because at that point we weren't competing against. We were we were competing against Disney. So we had to tame down a ladder match and we were in, we're in Wooster, I think at the Hampton Inn and we're just sitting there. And Paul just kind of. Piece this thing together. And, you know, everybody kind of chipped in, but like Paul, leave the skeleton. And that was kind of when when those things I just in my mind, I was just like, Wow. You know, like the time when when when Shawn Michaels got like, knocked out, we did the thing where the announcers stopped and the boys came from the back. Mm-Hmm. With the kick, you know, it's when we lost a smile and all that s**t. Well, we booked that. Shawn thinks he was part of it. Shawn was unconscious when we booked it. That was about 30 percent, maybe 30 percent Paul and 30 percent Scott and Sharp. But we think Paul and I were up front, so we were kind of like, Oh, OK, because that was just right after Ripken had. Beaten out Garrix streak for games. Oh, and remember, they took they took him around in a car around the outfield and everything, and they were silent on ESPN. They didn't say a word. They just let the moment become organic. It was such a. The power of that stood on its own. We want to do the same thing we wanted like the announcers, not, you know, go in any bulls**t. Because, you know, to this day. I was watching I was watching A.W. a couple of weeks ago, I actually pulled my son and I must say, I think somebody got hurt. And one of the people called Medic. But I mean, who is this f**king saving Private Ryan? Don't you do that at home when someone needs? Well, I always thought for four years, I always thought when you got injured, f**k you called a referee because, you know, through three referees would come down, you know, and. f**k. So, but I want to touch on the Soma story from Paul Paul Triple H was. He didn't do drugs as far as I know, right? No, right. Didn't even really drink from what I understand, right? I think I get him a buzzed in on the last day of the European tour in Switzerland and only because I was £ I. I was pounding pina coladas with him. He could taste the alcohol and he liked cocaine and he was like, These are good. And I'll say this is like it. Take much to drink. He was just like, I get it. That's cool for you and not for me. You worked him with a pina colada like an episode of Gilligan's Island. Yeah, a little buddy to take a sip. But the thing with Paul is like, we got like, we got close really, really fast because he loves bodybuilder and like, like, you know, like the one of the first couple conversations we were had late night driving was. Can you name all the Olympic, Mr. Olympians, you know, starting from the from Larry Scott going forward? Oh my God. And it was just like he was spot on. Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. And then. So we started training together, and at that time, there's a guy named Mike Menser, who was doing this thing called heavy duty training, and Dorian Yates had kind of taken it and ratcheted up a level. So you did like, you know, the basic philosophy was you can take a stick of dynamite sitting on a concrete floor and you can tap it with a hammer a thousand times and nothing will happen. But if you take a 25 pound sledgehammer, hit that stick of dynamite, there's a chance that it'll f**kin explode. That's kind of what the process was or what you did to try, and it's super intense, long single sets and you took muscles to serve, you know, positive value, negative failure, arrest, pause. I mean, you just knew it, but it was a it was a short walk. You could do a body part and 25 30 minutes. We went to like events, was very into bodybuilding till we started that World Bodybuilding Federation, which anyone could have seen was going to be a disaster. The only reason that failed is because of the drug trial. Well, the drug trial, too. But where could you what could you have aired? The excitement of professional wrestling, which was WWE WWF at the Times calling card to WBF? It was. It was posing. They were trying to make personalities out of that. I mean, I think there were trades he was trying to take. What you know were pro bodybuilding was at the time and and give those guys personalities like, you know. Yeah. I don't know what you were saying, was you tuning in every week? No, because I mean, we were subsidizing it. You know, we're out there banging around subsidized and it's a dream that I go for a baby drinking something that I can't procure. I think very straight had a great physique. But f**k man. You keep killing me over here. Was that the babyface that that he kind of put in the like as the the face of an item, a striatum? Never everyone the Olympia I think he had. But it the Arnold or no champions? He was he was. I mean, he was it was a very gifted bodybuilder. Yeah. Well, we should have him on talk about the fact that the snatch, the snatch and jerk, that the some great names in bodybuilding. I do enjoy hearing someone talk about the clean jerk and the snatch and all that. So that's not bodybuilders, powerlifter. So slap, actually, Olympic lifter may I never know the difference. Drugs and Triple H I was going to ask you. He seems like an odd choice to be in the clique because you guys were notorious parties. That's part of the clique. When you think about the clique, you think of a couple of things number one. The power play element to being a member of the clique and the headache, you gave any promoter and be partying. He did not party. It's odd to me, he seemed like an outlier to be it to be part of your group. What would he do? You guys are with the throw force almost to the three 33 soldiers. You're sleeping on an amplifier. What's Paul doing? I was early in the road because Paul joined us. I was I was world champion. So I mean, I was it. I had too many. I was I was way. My brains had been way pulled back. As far as. How hard I was running, it was like I was the f**king bodyguard, had one spot and I too had to remember and I could just f**king go out there and just be like, Oh man, I feel f**king rough. Did that make Paul always the designated driver? Maybe for you guys after the shoot? A lot of the times you did, but there's was a lot of times that I drove. Yeah, it was. It was. It was always nice to have somebody I knew and he knew. Vice versa. That would be a way to talk to that f**king four hours, man with with, you know, FM radio back in the day, which was pretty, pretty rough, right? Who had control of the radio when you guys were in the car? Was it whoever was driving or you guys all had it? Yeah. Most of times it was really weird because when I came on, I came in like Shawn Michaels and Scott Hall were f**king country music guys. Scott was yeah. Yeah, so I was I was just like. Oh, well, I maybe play a couple of my cards through a Luther Vandross in there somewhere. Soon as this Conway Twitty is over. Can I get some some of the Commodores or something? Yeah, he's with China in 96. Is he riding with you? Still went. Because there is some overlap. You go to WCW in 96, but there is some overlap, right? Yeah, we leave in June. Right? Yeah, so we're yeah. So, Johnny, by proxy becomes click. Or just the. Yeah. No. Because she's gone. Yeah, but but he's not with her before that. No. She wasn't there when I was there, OK, the first time she can't, she came along like, you know, when they started the exercise. Why didn't he go to WCW in 96? I know great things would come with him, with the axe and everything, but he had a chance to go right, make the money you guys were making. Did you talk about it? I think he, though, because he had just signed, he had another like, you know, I was. It's a three year deal. He had another year left. Was there any consideration that he might go when the deal was over? Well, because by the time we got out of the I mean, he was in the doghouse, you know, for so long after that curtain call, and he just, you know, he was a good soldier and he just. Took his punishment and. Yeah, and got it and got a spot. Do you talk to you about it the time that he stayed after you left and he had a year to do the penance? Well, he was, I think I think we're all kind of pissed that John didn't do a better job protecting them. But she's always in a bad place at that time, too, and it was very. Paul, really, you know? Did the best you could with that, and eventually, I think Tammy White, God bless a man, became the caretaker for Sean. We've talked multiple times and different things we've done together about the curtain call and it's been talked about ad nauseum. But the point I want to make is. Vince didn't have the problem with this, that everybody seemed to think he did. You told me on air, on something else that you ran it by. I mean, I think we talked here was one week that that you were like, Oh, we just won. He said, Reg, I was there, he said to Shawn Michaels, who said it was important to you, important to you, right of his important. It's important to me. Go ahead, do it. So why is there punishment? Meted out after the fact. I think it. I think the fact that that was it and that we actually left. What do you think you were going to stay? Hey, I. I talked to Briscoe at the garden that afternoon, he said Mattis's well, there's no way. I said, why they come over here and talk to me and say you? Oh, so I did. People, people think that we were going to WCW and it was some juggernaut, it was f**king. I see the thousand times the paper before we came was the the monster truck on Cobo Hall. The giant f**kin got pushed over the side of the parking garage and landed 12 storeys down, and it was in the main event and got a*s raped. The real summer of 92 by the Yeti, Ron Rees. Oh, right. You know, so I mean, it just was a charming what was it like? Yeah, it wasn't like we were going. We're going to, you know, it's a f**king. But so so maybe it was so then OK, so he says, Listen, this is important to you, but then it happens. And is this just to send shockwaves through the boys? Maybe that, you know, no one else better try this. Well, he had just lost two of the biggest s**t stirrers in the f**king company. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I know, but I there would have been an element of me that was like, you know, hey, dick bag behind behind closed doors, you said it's important to you now. I'm not going to get the f**king belt next month because this s**t, you know, John had the bill. That was the whole that was the whole thing. She already had the bill. I'm talking about Triple H being denied he was smoking. That was the king of the ring in the ring. That's what it was. And I think that it up going to Steve. And I'm going to talk to Steve. So, you know, I think that. Everything we did seem to have some kind of a butterfly effect. Everything else. You know, you can f**king hate us all you want, but boys, just sure is. I I got Steve in the front in the door, I said, but I got a buddy to Vance and I said, I got a buddy man. It's f**king unbelievable. You know, and you know, they did a stupid ringmaster thing with them, and then eventually, you know, like, you know, you could hold that motherf**ker down like Steve was, Steve was driven and all he needed was that, you know, he needed a little bit of a daylight, you know, to to get this thing going. Mm hmm. You know, talking about riding with the click and road stories and it's listen, it's a pertinent time to tell you that the segments brought to you by car show, which makes it easy and affordable to protect my car from expensive repairs. And that's just for starters, Car Shield is the number one auto protection company in the United States, and it offers protection plans for around 100 bucks a month. 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I think Paul was I'm almost positive. Paul was the first person in the clinic to hold my son right. So he talked to you when he started dating Stephanie. Yes. Was this was this a surprise, you obviously knew staff in the family and Shane and everybody? No, no. I mean, I've always tried, but you know, I've always been a fan of chefs. I mean, I was just like. I just was, you know, curious how that you know, how the exit strategy worked out if it didn't work out. No, I'm talking about China. Oh no. But but it's also valid to say, Listen, dude, you're this doesn't work out. What's your exit strategy here? Black and white T-shirt on the other on the other show? Yes. OK, so exit strategy with China because she's still there. Obviously, you're saying right? She's there. She's in the angle. The ex that guy. There was some, there was some, some tension there. I think Jodie said she was going to. And Steph's life and it was. It was f**ked up. Yeah, but it works out, I guess, for, you know, for certainly for Triple H and Stephanie and Shane McMahon. Where where did you see Shane McMahon's future in the WWE? Where did you see him possibly sliding in to someday? You know, it was so early in the I mean, it was like there was anybody was was thinking of events going anywhere. It wasn't like, Wow, Stephanie is going to be taken over this or, you know, somebody could be doing that or. It just, you know. And by the time, you know. Paul started getting more office responsibilities. You remember once time we sat down and he was he was just getting attacked, he started. And so I went over to full sail and we sat down the bleachers and we were just talking. He was just saying how you know, it's it's such a like to shoot wrestling, to work. A truck for wrestling like wrestling was such a specific, you know, skill set wasn't light. And when we did a lot of times when we were AT&T is, you know, the guys have shot wrestling, you know, maybe shot Nitro. Last week was shot, Talladega, the next week. You know, so we had it, we had our handheld guys were, but some of the guys that worked, just basically your hard cameras were just they were they were rotated in and out. You're production, you're talking about your production staff. But we're a family company, though. I mean, no, no one thought Vince was going. But when when there's somebody who is the head of the company and the whole family is involved? There has to be discussion about what do you think that'll be his someday or what do you think you can have him do as he could be telling me what to do something. You're going to stay a talent, maybe. Where do you think Shane would have would have fit? Was there any discussion about Shane and Stephanie and where they would have been? Not. Not the, you know, not the came. Not that I was privy to. Okay? You know, I just. And it wasn't like something I was going to ask. Because it has meant your own mind knowing Shane, knowing Stephanie, when I heard that he was taken over like. The media aspect of it. Yeah, new media, I think, was yeah, and it was just like, that was I said to myself, This is perfect. He's always he's always, you know, I guess before he's a cool dude is that he's on top of it. So, you know, if we were going to be new, you know, new revenue streams, you know, they're going to be different things, you know, put somebody that's that has that vision when you come back in with the NWA. Right? Are you guys riding together again with Paul? No. It's just me and Scott, right? So this last minute, Hulk two Hulk was made, but that was. It was such a short run. Yeah. You know, Holt did make house shows to me and Scott. Oh, that's right. You know, this guy just got got a Cadillac and just, you know, and that made true elsewhere. So some Merle Haggard on the radio and just roll, right? 10 epic hits. Now, Vince gets rid of the NWA, right? Is this because it was Eric's could he have could have written that for five years if he wanted to? Or is it just you always shut down the competition's brainchild? Yeah, we were f**ked. Yeah. Did did you think it could go into your thinking as a whole? Well, like I said, we were the number one selling t shirt week one. I had an idea we might we might have some tracks. Yeah, now he's he's not yet in any official position of authority, right when you come back. No, but I mean, you guys aren't morons. He's he's they're married now. You have to be having some consideration that he's going to possibly be in a position of authority with the company out of. Maybe not. Maybe you weren't thinking in terms of an executive position, but certainly in creative and booking in writing the rule. You have to realize, like from my standpoint, like my body blows a squad. And. I, you know, I'm just more worried like that point. I mean, me just going down, got the ring with him in Birmingham. You know, as he was getting ready and. Look, I went down a couple times and just, you know, we went out to sushi and shoot when he was just hanging out down to Birmingham and. We were just we were more concerned like we were in the moment, like I remember when he came back, I found what I think it was the garden you came back and it was just, you know, it was. He looked away. He looked amazing. You know, any. It was always such a workhorse, and he just said know he'd been gone a while, it was just like he picked up right where he left off and, you know, he had he had had so many great runs with some of the guys up there, and Paul was always really giving, you know, so but but but the consideration, though, of course, he's a great work, all that stuff. We know all that right. But his his marital position in the McMahon family has to be a consideration with you guys. As far as his future being in control. Yeah, I agree, but no. We're not. In retrospect, yeah, it happened, but like, nobody's nobody's thinking, wow, it's Vince is always going to be in charge. That's right. Right. That that's why that's why everybody got a bump last f**king week. Because but no, no, he wasn't going f**kin anywhere. No, like, hey, he's a good guy to have as a best friend right about now. No, I f**king know. It's a good book and elsewhere. So it's just like, you're always going to what you the two three, you're not going to bat f**king clean up. That's just the way it is. They're going to f**king happen. His positions over time, I mean, the verbiage and the, you know, the corporate titles, executive vice president of Talent and Live Events, Executive Vice President of Global Talent Strategy and development than I own. Actually, there was a step in the middle there. 2013 would have been executive VP of talent, live events and creative. And so now he's doing his thing about 2010, I'm going to say, is the first official corporate title that's handed down, which was executive senior advisor. Was that ultimately just like a talent type thing when you say executive senior adviser, not on the business end, but senior adviser on working with talent, developing talent, choosing talent? And I think at that time, Ohio Valley was up and running lean a little closer to that, Mike. Don't I know it's big and black, but do not be scared of it. I, I I think that he was working. I mean, Ohio Valley Wrestling was was up and running. They had that. Florida champ, I think like the first year the Florida developmental and then so I know he was involved in all of the phases of those and then eventually the performance center was, I think, pretty much his brainchild. The thing was also that, you know, Paul was very instrumental in. The like as they became more of a global. Entity. You know, we did Europe. We ran Europe. We didn't know we didn't. Did India? Did Israel? We weren't global. We didn't go to South America. We didn't go to Turkey. And we didn't go to Rome, didn't go to Paris, you know? I wrestled all those places on an indies. And so they started having, you know, rings and, you know, put in these warehouse s**t and each of these countries, so they were dragging it around. I mean, so they were, you know, and he was he was in charge of a lot of just those small specifics and making that just logistically logistically easier to globally run house shows. Oh, that's interesting. So when you got global, there would be like a hub near certain places. You know where there was a WWE ring to your specifications because of course, years before it was whatever ring they set up and Rico or Mukesh wheeled a ring into, you know, Pakistan. Yeah, we had we had an office in London that would be an office in London. You know, I mean, we started, you know, the company really started it and that was all after it went public. I have never heard a bad word about him. Ever any from the developmental guys that I've talked to to, you know, the name guys I'm talking about off golf course on camera, no one wants to say anything about Triple H. I understand that. But like even off camera, like he's he's somehow just like always maintained a squeaky clean reputation and it's not always as obvious as well. He's a good guy. So, no, I've heard people I thought were good guys have s**t talked about them by people that were jealous. Or you'd have to meet his mother and father. Oh, tell me his mother, father like salt of the Earth. The just the two, the nicest human beings on the planet. His socialization processes. I mean, is is close to leave it to beaver, as probably you could have. Hmm. You know, I mean, it's just just. I guess it when you don't go through life with a f**king backpack full of f**king baggage. I think that maybe life's a little bit. I don't think such people existed, but I guess I'm glad people without baggage exist. He he just didn't have any right. You know, he just never. You know, he had his it was almost like f**king. It was strange because I've just never been around anybody with no vices. Yeah, right, right. Well, you're really f**king talented, you cut a good promo, if I could. Your funniest f**k you. Don't miss a workout. And you don't have any vices. Does that make them boring? No. No. Yes. Funniest fact. Some is everyone's got stumped and some people even funny drugs are. There are some monkey on the back. People f**k their pets or something, right? Only in Florida, man. Right? So what do we bottle? OK, let's let's have some kind of summation here. We want to make the perfect professional wrestling corporate executive slash worker slash creative. What do we bottle from Paul Levesque? Look, you don't pronounce the ASA. What do you bottle for a long? Number one thing you would buy from him is his passion. Passion for the business. And there's also f**king a student of the business. You know, I think that's huge, I think that if you know. If you know the history of most things, especially if you know the the downfalls of corporations or anything, if you know the history, then the chances of you repeating that is is a lot. It's very limited as opposed to, you know, being somebody that like maybe was the 45th president that wanted the the troops to be more like they were two towards Adolf Hitler and the general said, Well, you know, they tried to kill Adolf Hitler three times. He goes to know that. How about the f**king movie with with f**king Tom Cruise, huh? Remember that one and the f**king I said to myself, I'm like, Who the f**k goes? Sees this movie? The trailer's telling you that Cruz and his f**king cohorts are going to assassinate Hitler. I know history. I know that motherf**ker. You didn't get assassinated. So what's the upside of me seeing this f**king film? I know the finish could be speculative fiction, historical, speculative historical fiction. I don't know. But a lot of I mean, a lot of people are students of the game. You know, you knew you've worked with people who are great students that I've worked with. Jim Cornette, great student of the game, could talk for hours about any promotion and what worked, what didn't work. And but but is there something? Is he a great listener? Is he someone who is a good eye for talent? OK. Right? He's got an eye for talent, that's for sure. Look at the guys, you know, look at the people that he he, you know, he's kind of handpicked and and pushed up on the WWE product and raw. They were just like every time one of them went up there, man, it was just like, how quick when we can we dismantle what got him over and f**k this dude up? Like, I just, you know, it was almost it was just like when he got sick, when he had the heart episode, they couldn't f**king get down there and dismantle what he had built in next quick enough. I thought that was f**ked up, man. Hmm. And what was the impetus for that? Why? I don't f**king know. I asked Charlotte about it. You know, Shawn Michaels, and he was just like. I know. Charged. Yes. Is is this. Is so change is just not. He's not, you know, he's not a s**t disturber anymore, he just. He does his job, he does it well, and he does the best he can, and it goes home to his family. Maybe today Sean wouldn't have been in the clear. Yeah. He would not, and we're not a politician in a s**t stirrer now, but we're all f**king who. We're all, but we're all for all different now. Any f**king guys? A click worthy more. You just got a show with the name on it. Oh, f**k. I'll take it if you could change one thing about your home. What would it be? 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Well, I mean, it's I think it's between 100000 and 200000 rubles. So. So getting a little getting a little thin over there. Well, yes, the uniform seems to me like buckets. If you're going to prison, if I can get it, but they did f**king say that they wouldn't take any pedophiles or rapists. So I mean, they're I mean, they're taking the cream of the crop murderers were five right murderers. f**king. I think they were actually going to f**king look at them as is going. They had a two week. A training before in Russia, before they send them send them down to the murderers, have to be trained, how to murder like an organized murder as opposed to like, you know, beheading the shop owner that got them there, right? I thought that was interesting. I read that today. No, I didn't watch it on ABC or anything else. They actually read it. Peter De, though, would like you to talk about, he said Kevin Mrs. Nash cannot have had an easy marriage with you on the road so much. Can you guys give us any stories about her? And has she had any Klick interactions? Any tips for a good long marriage? That is rare in wrestling. Thank you. That is a fascinating question. We should have your wife. Would you like to do an entire show instead of you, maybe where we can talk about you the entire time? No, you just can't be present. My wife would want to do that. She is. I wouldn't want to ask my wife to do that. She, my wife, has had several volleys of of the click in and out of our home. Who's her favorite member? Leave the joke alone, it's it's the member, Lee, who's her favorite Klick member, thinks you'd well. But I never had that conversation with her. Who's your favorite? Well, know who she's like, Oh, not Scott again. Or you know, or oh, be nice to see Shawn again, you know? Oh, so it was just honey, the boys are coming. It's not like we have f**king people in our house. We had a guy, some guy today that we had a new hurricane shelter put out in the master bedroom and this f**king guy came in today and. If you just tell the f**king Hedy's guy, like, what the f**k are you the only called he missed his window and that I'm s**t my brains out, so I'm not in a good mood. I answer the door, my underwear like a sorry. I'm not going to put on a pair of shorts. Two things that got a tug down between my next score is like, Where's this Alison upstairs? Come on, I'll walk you. I walked him upstairs and he pushed the button and went up and down twice. I said, We've done. He said, Yeah, I walked him out. I know you're on. A couple of weeks ago we were talking and you said, Hold on, I have a houseful people. I was like, what? Was it your anniversary or summer with a house full of people, your place, but now it should now, do you restrict your wife's desire to be more social because you're so reclusive? No. She's she's OK with a. A quieter, life lived f**king, I don't know, 15 years with me gone 300 plus days a year. Well, my wife's quiet, intelligent loves to read when she had when she had my son, she was a mom. So she's an education major. She taught for a while. She does want to go out with the Joneses down the street for a steak. Now when we pet friends, you know it, you know, it's kind of a pain in the a*s when you go out places to. Sometimes it is because you just want to sit there with your friends in it. It's where we live in an area that's that's a very high density dense. Vacation spot. And you get f**ked with. So just it's easier if I can just kick the girl on in the back and. I don't eat s**t, I just sit my f**king chair the whole time. Other people cook. It was Trista. Trystan works the grill. Now, if he's like me, so f**k that Dan, is that this guy is it had. This is like the grill master guys. OK, Bob, I'm Bob Nash, Bob Nash's kid. There's a guy I apply to that makes for good barbecue. Have that motherf**ker bring it over in his car? Dan Aguayo. I always wanted to know why Diesel wasn't on WrestleMania the arcade game. Despite being champion at the time of its release in November 1995 as an early smart mark, I thought Nash must be leaving WWF. Perhaps a coincidence? I have no idea. Some other things people didn't know it was, it wasn't on it, I was going to say it's like that Shatner bit for. Sorry, sorry, I was on the f**king road every day of my life. I wasn't in the arcades. Arcades making sure was was like, you get f**king paid any royalties back then. Caleb Enter says, is he a conservative liberal or a liberal conservative, a conservative Democrat or a liberal Republican, something for the right or left or more in the middle? How best would Diesel describe his political position? Would you like to label yourself? I think you said centrist Democrat is what you said, right? Yeah, I mean, nowadays f**kin Goldwater would be f**king to the left. Yeah, Jesus. Robert and I got a question. Okay. I did see something other than they were talking about. And I do see these things with, you know, these guys come and they say, OK, yes, you been pro-choice. You don't care about the father in this predicament. Yeah, because most guys are so f**king righteous on taking care of their kids that run f**king 13 states to get away from them. But they say, you know, they you know, they do the abortion, the the fetus can feel pain. I'm like, OK, I was wide, f**king awake, alive. They cut the end of my c**k off called a circumcision. Who remembers her circumcision out there, raise her f**king hand. I felt pain. What was it, was it a searing pain? I missed it in the gender debate. Do you subscribe to the the notion that if men gave birth, that abortion would not only be legal, but probably covered by every insurance company and available on every corner and probably mandatory? Well, imagine if I could see some guy walking around thinking absolutely vulnerable with a big f**king leg. Some of the some of the fat f**ks I see walking around the airports look look like they're about ready to break water. So I don't know. Robert, out of nowhere, who is one superstar that no one in the locker room would fight? Ron Simmons. I've never seen anybody f**king. Haku, I was going to say hockey, always hear hockey, right, that's the hackers that give me right. Hockey was one of those guys when you just looked at me just like, Where do you heard him? Stuck in rest, is this big? Yeah, it's a f**king. It's like. It's f**king panzer tank. I mean, people have seen exchanges between him and frisky Marx at bars right where he like, Hey, who knows how far the law takes these things? Here's what here's what singlehandedly lift. Here's one for you. Good. Matt Forint, Matt Bourne, Matt Bourne, what one of the guys that that you would mess with. No. So they did this angle, and it was Haku first big show, and they were sumo a sumo deal. And f**kin like they they they took off and f**king Haku, just like put his hands like, you know, like an offensive lineman, basically, you know, push show in like two seconds to the corner. It was unbelievable, like his explosiveness. This is straight in a shoot. Oh, f**k that. It was a it was a gimmick from f**kin for TV. It was their nitrous. That's something to look up out there, guys. Yeah, I was going to say, I have to. I have to bring some video for that. Yeah. C.J. Williams, I came back to Twitter to ask Nash why Wilkes Bar is always his go to small town. To use as examples and stories always makes me chuckle. Being I live ten minutes away, here is photographic proof of me and Kevin in Scranton, PA years ago in this photo of you and him taking picture. It is a fun name to say I always go to Prochaska, Oklahoma, as a shout out to Chief Jay Strongbow, but also because it sounds fun. Is it just because the Wilkes Bar is a bar or bear? It's the pronounced bar. We'll explore this bar. I don't know, I guess, because I've overused the Sheboygan, Michigan too many times in my life. So and the coastal towns in all, all the coastal towns, Sweden and Czechoslovakia. Well, it is. It is somebody going to realize that's a rib. Then I would think they no, I don't think they do. I don't think that. I think I'm going to have to scour Twitter to see why it's talking to my son, and he's got some friends that that are checks. And they don't say they're f**king Czech Republic's. They say they're from Czechoslovakia. Because that's where the f**k the I mean, you know. So I guess if you're a map maker and you live in America, it's the Czech Republic, but. If you're from there, you honor the history. Yeah, if you if you're from there, especially one of the coastal towns, it's checklist of f**king barbecue. You know, shaken, not stirred. I'm you know what I'm realizing here for the first time tonight. God damn it, we didn't do the bunkhouse stampede. Oh, f**k. And so much I had so much f**king you, I was get I was taped before. I hope you want to teach me how to get color. I got I'll kill you. Let me see if I put this down here. I actually got my f**kin wrestling territories T-shirt on. I know. You know what? Maybe we'll work on it for next week, I'm going to I'm going to try and make that happen, but I can show the mega showed. Yes, the Mega Mega sold Mega Mega DOD Mega Mega showed in the Baja McMann. No, Jessie at all. I just want to point out this week no bunkhouse, no Jesse. Everyone is gone. Why don't you tell me, Oliver? Why we didn't have Jesse? Why we didn't have Bunkhouse, huh? It's a conspiracy because we had Paul Levac and there's this. I'll tell you right now, f**king I'm looking behind you and it looks like a f**king canister of thermite. Click. 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