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Action park media. Welcome to another episode of Victor, the podcast, I'm Doug Ellis, Kevin Dillon, The Trees, and I'm Kevin Connolly, who, Dylan, you still can't do Irish crickets shake your coffee. But yeah, I'm going to wait on that a little bit. But here we go anyway. Hold on, I can for our Irish cricket fans out their Irish cricket. Coors Light never go wrong. Never go wrong. But Kevin, you're fully recovered. Yeah, I feel I feel good. Yeah, a little tired. I swear to God, maybe 95 percent Amy is still not 100 percent recovered. She still has this like cloud. You know this. Oh, that's a bad cloud. And I remember it during COVID, you just feel your brain feels fuzzy. Well, that's the thing. I mean, like, everybody goes, OK, it's over. Like Cam Newton looked like an unbelievable quarterback, got COVID, and he hasn't been the same since. Nobody really talks about that. Now they're all trash and Belichick. It means something because Tom Brady is the greatest of all time, and we knew he would deliver. But so did you guys watch just, oh my god, the guy's unbelievable. And Gronk, I mean, it's just the three picks were pretty bad, but you know what was in on him? One was right after another guy. There was a lot of drops, too. They they dropped at least five. There are a lot of drops on both sides. But you know what, at the end of the day, he outplayed Aaron Rodgers when he needed to, and that's what I thought in college. You know what I wanted to talk about with you? Watch this I am impressed by Connolly, but you know what? I'm getting to this age. I don't get it. What do you see in him? You know what? I'm getting to this age at 52, where like things are more important than like, I used to dream. I'd win a Super Bowl. I'd do this. And now I look at Brady when he takes off his helmet and the f**king hair is like, remarkable. And I thought Connelly kind of could take off a helmet during the game and have that, like, nice f**king helmet on. Yeah, look, I guess I could pull my helmet off and also to I mean, I love Tom Brady to be sick. I could pull my helmet off. I knew it in the booth, but I wouldn't be surprised if Brady had a little work done. If you know what I'm saying. What do you talk about? Oh, plastic surgery? The guy's hair transplant stays in great shape. Wait, are you sure about his hair? Talking about his hair? You're a little jealous, dude. But Conway has great hair, so it's just it's such an I'm older than the guy and I got better head of hair than he does. You know what, though? You couldn't grow yours out, it would grow. You got to be your girl. Look weird. I don't look weird. I need to weigh in on a couple of things here. I think the audience needs to come in to this and say whether Conway has a better head of hair than f**king Tom Brady is the most ridiculous thing I've ever. Well, not if you want to go all natural. You think probably tinkered a little bit. Like what? Like, like, like a lot like a hair trigger. Always had great hair. I think there might have been a procedure at some point. Whoa. I mean, listen, you heard it here first, folks. I figured Sixers. I am hoping we get it absurd on the podcast. Please, I'll lie. Yeah, yeah. But then I retract that stage. I'll deny it. I love his hair. I'm hoping we get him on the podcast, but we'll we'll we'll check with that. But I just wanted to say. Unbelievable. Gronk and Brady, who are friends of the podcast Everyone One Play, but it was a big one. It was a huge one, by the way. It's also, listen, he's always blocking and doing stuff. Just having him out there is enormous. Entourage cast members Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. I wish Edelman was on the Bucs also enjoying this. Yeah, but I'm happy for them. Great guy. Amazing. We love you and it's great. And hopefully just people listen to this episode before next week before it's it's dead. My girlfriends, there's always like, Oh my god, not to go, Oh, there's Tom Brady my dear to your friends. You met him once. All right. Anyway, just so I can say, because Connelly is, he's very particular about this. These episodes every season forever. Tom Brady is the greatest of all time, and people will remember that he's going to the Super Bowl as the oldest quarterback in history is for the hairpiece. He was the greatest of all time for Super Bowls ago. I am just off Greg Dillon. We have to talk about this. What the f**k is wrong with Connelly? He's got this. Tom Brady, Tom Brady. Oh, so there's a lot of Tom Brady jealousy out there, and I think just Connelly is one of those guys. I have never been a bigger fan of Tom Brady than I am right now. I want him desperately. You weren't a big fan when he showed up on the set for us for twenty five hundred bucks because he loved the show. That didn't make your fans. I'm joking around. I love Tom Brady. But to do it the way he's doing it and against the first team to play in a home stadium for the Super Bowl. And of course, it's Tom Brady. And also to those stat for you guys, while we're if we're not going to go evergreen, Tom Brady has gone to the Super Bowl in ten of twenty one seasons. That's forty seven percent of the time. Steph Curry shoots the three and averages forty three percent. There's a better chance Tom Brady goes to the Super Bowl than Steph Curry hits a three. Tom Brady has a higher match. Tom Brady has as many AFC Championships as Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers combined. No. They each won one. Each one of them, but they've been, Oh my God, I see what you're saying. So he just switched to the NFC. It's not as good as my Steph Curry stat. So listen, I actually think it's a better step. We're going to do season two, episode 12. Good morning, Saigon. But before that, we got things to talk about. Do. Doug, what was this? I was? All right. So let me say. Like how entourage always is, lifelong friendships were basically how the show was created and life long friendships have been mine. Do you guys remember Jeff Jacobson? My boy, he's been in the business. So he was like the couple of the early premieres, right? Your buddy. He's been on a lot of premieres. Also, Greg around the set a bit. I remember I think he showed up on set, but he lives. He lives back from here. She would be a premieres, great head of hair, by the way. Plus, Jeff Jeff Jeff, Jeff's father, who I love for 30 years. I wake up on Saturday. I get this letter and he said he's just turning 80. And he wrote this letter to 300 people that have meant something to him in his life, that he has really had some really good fortune in his life and he wanted to share it, and he sent me a check. Well, how about this? I did get a check it. Dylan, like Collins, had good fortune in his life that I've helped create. He's never give me a f**king cheque yet. Don't hold your breath. Well, then you get one. Well, I got yours. I got the podcast check. But I had to work from this. This Eddie Jake check just came because he appreciates me. Do you appreciate me? Kevin Dillon Yes, I do, but I don't have a check for you. Anyway, it was a listen. Tell them the story. Can I ask you how much the check with two hundred and fifty thousand dollars? Shut up. No, I'm just. It was. It was actually a really nice check, though. That was the first words out of my mouth, and I didn't even get the story out of said. How much is the check for a dog? It was a twenty five hundred dollar check. I've already I've already donated it to the global initiative, which you. It does. It does some amazing things to help orphans in Africa. I split it up between them and I'm going to. I haven't done it yet, so I don't want to get caught with his evergreen baby. She give it to cronies charity so that I'm on the show or got a better. You could have done it. 10 Movember But it's going to some German Shepherds. I, you know, you know me with my shepherds and I love the whales too. But you know what, Graham Greene, you know, I've had enough green. I mean, come on. He's not responding. He's not anything I don't know. He liked. He likes something that you posted. Diddy, I saw. And I have to apologize. Yeah, sorry. I love you. I love you. I let's go to the wells. All right, I'll write a check for the whale guy writing, Why is this so anyway? What happened was, and it all relates to writes Jeremy Piven did a play back in the day David Mamet play. I think it was Speed the plow and Eddie Jay came and saw us, and he saw a couple of us had brand new iPhones, which is probably iPhone 1s or iPhone too. And he woke up the next day and said, I love it. I'm buying Apple stock now. My dumb a*s woke up the next day and bought a f**king iPod, so I didn't make any money. But he apparently made some good money, had some good fortune. But anyway, it was really just so I can. The audience can fully appreciate that. So he was looking at your iPhones going, What? This is crazy. What a great company. And he woke up the next day and basically put everything he owned into an apple. I don't know what he put into it, but apparently it did well for him. Yeah, and well enough to give 300 people these check. So anyway. Oh, nice guy. I just want to say, though, I didn't make the cut, I guess, nor did I. It was actually emotional and it was actually like a great moment. And it's my roommate in college, best friend from college. And it, you know, listen, it's paying it forward. He felt good about it. I said to him, I don't feel comfortable accepting this. He said, You know what is a 300 other people? They felt comfortable. So just take, you know what? He said, donate it. Do whatever you want with it. It makes me feel good. Well, you know, Connelly had some, some beef with some upset people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, figured that out. We have gotten several messages. We got DMs, really nice peace people who are going to make sure Connolly's name is cleared. Make sure his packages are handled to handle that neighbor, that angry neighbor. Well, I've been Mad Dog and then I haven't confronted him yet, but I'm a mad dog. What does that mean? Mad Mad stared him down. Who like where? Like in the car driveway drive bys. He's kind of weak. Well, he's hanging out there with his nine iron in the neighborhood, just by the way the guy's f**king six years old. He probably can't even see colleagues sitting out the window, and the guy doesn't even notice it. But that's Connolly's intimidation tactics. Get out there. How to, you know? Yeah, I'm saying I get a DM from a from a guy that's like a regional or something or other for ups. Yeah, I'm not. Listen, my father is a truck driver. I was raised my truck driver. My father rolled over 14 times in his grave when he heard this podcast, and the thought of me having any beef with a truck driver is just, I mean, it's it's not acceptable. I didn't have the beef. We put it out there. And by the way, my packages have been great. So thank you. UPS, as I said last week for my neighbors, poor me. As I said last week, I will be on Uber has been great to me. They always deliver on time. So I'm a fan of the Postal Service to say, Yeah, we love the Postal Service. Forget about Connolly. All right. I just want to get past your mad dog. And I want to know if you f**king ended up on the ground with your neighbor. Are you taking him out? I'm going to say something to know. What can you take him here? We're asking Jesus. I don't know, guys. Well, I mean, wow, he could be a f**king black man. Or he could be an inmate. You just don't know. But of course, you don't know he could have a gun also. But by looks, do you feel comfortable with a physical confrontation? Listen, you, I think you're going to get smoked. You never heard of this guy. Must be. He's in your head, but he's not. I know we got to talk about it for a minute, but have you ever heard Conor McGregor? You think he could take the guy? I don't know. He might be a black belt. What are you talking about him, Greg? As a professional fighter, hang you. Handle him. Connell O'Connor had a little tough time last year, by the way. Connolly's neighbor is a f**king jazz musician, and Connolly is like s**t. He's a f**king clarinet player, and Connolly is not saying definitively, I don't want to be overconfident. I like my chances if it goes to the ground. It depends, maybe, how well-rounded Powell got about. But listen, that's not even the craziest thing I told you. Did you OK? Did I tell you about Can we talk about Ghost Sports Cafe? Oh my god. There's some stuff going on a goal. His goal, which we filmed that goal. We have a lot of things gold. I just want to give a little baxter and gold before you go into this. You told that this is where they come, shamrock. This is where they took my sandwich. This is where J. The kids are upset. This is where the entourage guys were kind enough to take out a third round draft pick who nobody knew who he was named Russell Wilson, whose favorite show was entourage. I took him out with all the guys and we went to goal. And for that, he unfollowed Kevin Connelly on Instagram. Yeah, well, he missed the match, that's for sure. So anyway, tell us about your crazy bartender. It goes well. So as it turns out, one of the form former bartenders of Gola stormed our nation's capital. Oh my god, I came back to no job after that. Yeah, I mean, he's fired. And he's not fired because of his political beliefs. Because he's an idiot. Well, well. Well, did you find this out? I mean, did you see him on CNN? The f**king feds are f**king knocking on everybody's door looking for him. He don't. He didn't want to know it was a gun guy. He was wearing a Viking Quest costume, was it? Thank goodness, thank God. But I think he posted like a 30 second Instagram video and I believe he was sort of right in that. Not in the doorway, maybe twenty five thirty yards off that doorway, but he was there and he was smart enough to take it down. But the Fed saw it, and now they're calling all the other bartenders asking if he's like a gun guy, which he's not. I mean, he was I always thought he was a nice kid, fired motherf**ker. But he was nice. Well, OK, but you two different things walking through the door of that capital and standing there, protesting a different thing. They don't walk. I think he was on the aggressive side, bro. The FBI is looking for him. So but he was, was he the he wasn't playing the violin, wasn't the guy with Pelosis. He had Pelosis. He was the guy that had the stand. Now, I don't know, because a lot of s**t. He was a nice kid. I thought he was a nice kid. And yeah, man, he just somehow got radicalized is the best way you could say it. A lot of stuff seems to go down at goal, and then you had another incident again, we've talked about action park media and the security that Connolly seems to have here because the place is one of the most unwelcoming office fronts you've ever seen in your life. It's a double glass mirror. You look at it and you're just like, Do not have a goal. I'm talking about this. This place. Yeah, like, you look at it, nobody could find it. You don't want to go in it. But Connolly, apparently we know we had Simon secret sauce, guys. Storm, yeah, action park media last week with some. We need security and action. But what happened with another goal bartender? OK, so you got to understand, right? You guys come in here and it's it's chaos. You create or Doug does not really. You have to create chaos, but there's lots of times where we're it's just it's quiet and we're just trying to get some, some work done so. Kevin Corrigan and I hear the master behind the behind the computer. We're editing another project. Sorry, guys, wasn't you? Well, you don't need editing. I know we're perfect. Oh yeah, you guys are great. No work done. There must be an answer, please. Sophie Julia, Action Park's newest employee and narrowed are back and they're doing stuff in the in the back office and the road comes in. She has kind of a concerned look on her face and not really sure, and she said, there's a guy looking for you out in the back alley and I don't know who that it could be. My neighbor could be a lot of people. One of the many, many homeless people that hang out back. Right? Well, that's what I thought. Long story short, one of the bartenders, one of our other bartenders, is not the guy that stormed the Capitol. Another bartender stiffed the bookie and skipped town, and the bookie showed up here at Action Park and scared everybody. But I went and I went outside. He's a fan of the podcast. He's like doing, Wow, no joke. He's like, Yeah, I hear Doug talking about the mirrored glass, so I figured this was the place. What did he? What was his M.O.? What did he want you to pay? How much money was it? He's a nice bookie. He was a nice boy. He's a nice. So he was not aggressive. He was not a mobster. He was running. No, it was not like it was not like the movies he won. He wanted his money. I laughed at because I can't help him with that. How much was it? And oh, really want to get into the numbers? But he, yeah, he's out. He's looking for he's looking for the guy. Substantial. Long story short, I think we might hire this guy. But wait, dude. Well, it's a side job. It's a side job. But he asked for a job, so we may bring him into action. I'm still just trying to understand how he shows up at the door. He's looking for Kevin Connolly, who now just so you know, Kevin Dillon. I always tell people Kevin Connolly is much tougher than you might think. After listening to him being scared of this jazz musician, I know he's getting a little old. I think right of him not trying to fight with a bookie in the street. All right. But he was nice. He was a friendly bookie, but he shows up. What does he actually want money from, you know? I think I think and it worked because, you know, once he's applying pressure, right, he's applying pressure. So then I call the bartender and go, Hey, man, just so you know you want to, you want to hire this guy who runs around pressuring people to get money. I mean, listen, he was a very sweet bookie. It's an illegal. But still, you know, we all have our own agendas because I tell you what I want to do. I don't know what the number is. If it's less than a few grand, I would like to use that money to buy back my dessert at goal. If I could get the chippy back on the menu, I'll pay this jersey. Also a bartender and I believe I said, Look, you know, there's going to be some openings because of the guy that stormed the Capitol and the guy stiffed you. Maybe we get him a couple of s**t that a bartender, but he was a super nice bookie I like. I'm just not thrilled about the fact that this other guy left without pain is bill that that's that troubles me. Who is this card also? Or he quit. He didn't have to get fired. He quit. Well, he needs the work more than the bookie because he's obviously not paying his bills, which I, you know, I don't know if anyone is dealing. I think we may hire the bookie. I don't like when you don't pay your debts. Dillon really does. Dillon, do you not think that's a good idea? You think it's a bad idea? Just basically, you know, a principle that he's a book. I mean, he used to. I bet every bookie usually has some money he's got to answer to, and that guy's usually in the mob. I'm just saying, you know, you want to hire mobsters, go for it. By the way, I like everybody. I'm learning so much new about these guys, like Dylan's very like a rule player, which is fine. I'm not making it like this guy's got somebody to answer to. Dylan, no doubt. What do you think? He's not putting up all his money for every bet he I think if he had someone to answer to, that's why I think it's so strange. And I know he listens to the podcast and I acknowledge that someone's going to come after me. But I'm sorry Connelly doesn't want a fight. I really don't want a fight. But the fact that he came to the alley, I mean, that's a f**king threatening fighting area, especially with Connolly, who almost killed the Simon Secret Sauce guy for showing up. So I mean, my point is it sounds like a Johnny drama character, though the bookie of the the part of the bookie. I thought about that I did. My adrenaline was pumped a little bit. I'm not going to lie just because I didn't. I didn't understand whether he was coming with his demeanor was, but as soon as I saw his demeanor was not aggressive. I wonder if the jazz musician is going to be. Worried about your demeanor when he sees it, that's what I'm really questioning about, but anyway, this is all fascinating stuff. I hope he pays it off. I want to yell a little shout out. Happy birthday to Ferris. You didn't give me your last name, but you're on an Instagram thing. So happy birthday to you, man. I hope it's a great birthday and let's get into an Instagram thing. What? What do you mean? He asked me if I would say, Happy birthday to him. All right. Get his Crighton handle. I talked to the people as much as I can. I hope both of you will do as well. We've got some great fans out there. The victory page. Follow it Victory. The podcast page is growing 43000 strong. No, it's great. We have. We've made friends. I love Matty. Still mad. He still is like, I don't know. He's a great guy. He is a great guy. Matty Stu did our quiz. Matty Stu also does COVID testing for us to make sure we're OK. Matty Stu is good people. I'm actually going to call him so anyway when we come back. Season two, Episode 12 Good morning, saiga. Welcome back, Victor, of the podcast. Good morning, Saigon, and we're going to have Saigon come on in a little bit, but let's talk about the episode first cab, you're going to kind of narrate us through this thing, right? Well, yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny what would make us decide that we're back in the yellow Hummer? Oh, because the Maserati got stolen? You know what? The Maserati got stolen and the yellow Hummer? It's interesting now because it is coming full circle. We all love that car when it started and then we came Mike anti-environment animals and now the car is coming back. They're doing an electric Hummer, which I bought my car. God, it's gorgeous. I can't wait. And a lot of horsepower to be great for the reboot, Doug. Yeah. Well, this time it's funny. We talked about this the other day where we're pulling up at the Earth Cafe, but this time it's the Earth Cafe in Santa Monica. Yeah, which, you know, you guys talked about how it's not the We Love the Earth cafe, so we're not trashing it. As far as architecturally sound locations, it's not the most beautiful looking place. And when we pull up to it, we can see that. But I want to talk about everyone always goes, OK, what's unrealistic about the show? And I'm like, We always try to be really realistic. But the women Ari's running, and it's literally there's like, there's no dudes, all the girls that run by her in perfect shape. And again, this is not about PC. I have zero idea how this ended up in the final cut. There's zero percent chance I wrote it. I don't know if somebody else did. It was improv. You're talking about got MILF, you got MILF. I mean, it was so bizarre to me. It, you know. Listen, mate, it's funny. OK, and it's funny. It might be, by the way, and in 2006, it might have been different. I'm telling you, like right now, if the biggest agent in Hollywood yelled that out at the park Santa Monica Pier as the mother is walking around with her baby in a struggle, he would legitimately be fired the next day. But also, I just thought it was way out of character from the just scream that at a woman. But again, I need to take myself back to 2003. I must have thought it was funny. It stayed in there. It's season two. You know, we're still building our characters a little bit. We're still trying to figure out what we would and would not do. It is a strange thing. I mean, I hope not. I was shocked by that, too. Well, every young bat out at any woman, anywhere, but I almost never do that. Dylan sometimes can't control it, but I would say if someone yells, Got MILF at the mother of your child, they deserve to get punched in the face. It's just that simple. Would you disagree with that? No, I agree. Yeah. So anyway, he's pretty funny. Maybe it should have been more to himself. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, he breaks yelled at after. It's very straight. And then again, the three or four women that run by he checked out every one of them. But they all have perfect bodies. Like it's not exactly there's so many. And they're all model. They're all like six foot two. They're almost at the Santa Monica steps, which is a great that was Giannone hiring all these models. Basically, they were very expensive and the Santa Monica steps, which is the location, there is a great place to go, run up and down. You want some good exercise and you want to you want to get your a*s built up men or women, but he's not going there from Beverly Hills in the middle of the week to like, go jog there. So it is a time that we were like, This is a beautiful location. Let's put it there. And our extras, this one due to runs by at one point, but it's mostly all women. So if you're going to be disappointed, if you go to the Santa Monica steps, you will see some beautiful women. But there's a lot of men there as well. So I don't want anyone to say we're not realistic. But anyway, let's get into this. Well, I had something to say about the scene at Earth Cafe. When we're there, Vince is a little bit late. Yeah. And OK, so he's late for he's late for breakfast, and we're all just so disappointed. It was like so devastated than like, Yeah, but I got you this beautiful egg frittata. All right. So he was late for breakfast. We're like, devastated, like he left us at the altar or something. So, well, I think we're still coming off. The last episode where everybody's worried about Vince isn't a big fan of this Vince Mandy relationship. So I think it's it's building those stakes a little bit, which are a little low. They're not. It's funny to Vince is doing all these things, so Vince has the weapon training right where he's going to test out Del di Del when they'll die, and he wants to push the the session an hour, right? So he can be with Mandy because he told Manny they would go house hunting or something. But Mandy's also in the movie, Doug. Yeah, you just say too many. Hey, Mandy, you know this giant movie we're doing? I got to go do the weapons training. We can't look at houses today if she doesn't understand who's going to understand. Look, we're clearly trying to get some story out of this and some drama, but it is creating Vince's character that he falls in love pretty easily, and he's willing to do some stupid stuff, which Dylan does in real life. We know so. And then we also find out that the Maserati was stolen, right? Where did that? Yeah, that was kind of weird. Well, it ended up it pays off. But where was it stolen from? And National was a club that used to be on Beverly. I used to frequent the establishment. I used to go to. National Wednesday nights was the night of national, I'm sure you did. By the way, Connolly can give his whole club schedule from 1993 to Tuesday. He never missed a night. National was a good. It was a good club on Monday. You got here Tuesday. You go here Wednesday. Are you still on this circuit? I mean, oh no, I'm retired. Well, it's because the cold, it's so cold and he'll be back out there. But the Maserati gets stolen at National. So let me just tell you where. Let me just tell you this story comes out of nowhere, but let me tell you where this story comes out of. I'm playing basketball at the park on McCadden. In Hollywood, you go, you throw your keys down on the side of the court. Everybody does it. Who plays pickup basketball? I'm finished and I can't find my car. Now I'm a little absent minded, so I have been known to lose my car or forget it's there. My car was stolen and cell phone was in the car and someone picked up your keys from someone passed my car. What kind of car was it? This was a Honda Accord. This is about I believe it must have been disappointed by that. Well, you know what I mean? They grabbed the keys and they left with the car. I'm sure they were fine, but what happened was they had my cell phone was in the car, I guess, and I remember they called my house phone and were like taunting me that they stole my car. And it was like it was like a bunch of girls. I heard them say yes or not. But anyway, the car ended up coming back to me and I remember when I got it back, it smelled like weed and there was a dramatic CD in the player. What I so so that's where this comes. So this story came from. However, we got suggested that we should put Saigon in and kind of make Turtle this music manager. I was like, Well, what if they car gets stolen and then they find this CD in the car? So that's really that's where the line come. Let your car get stolen. It's never the same, bro, but a do bang in your check, right? Is that the line? There's like the truth was, I remember I didn't want that car back now. It was fine, but I remember you're about to collect the insurance and then it comes back to you. Yeah, and it was actually in good shape. It smelled a little and that CD was there, which was fine. I like dramatic. So it was fine. But but I was worried what you will get back. So anyway, that's where the story came from. So we go to the tow yard, get the car back. Phone rings and Shawna is b***hing out because despite her warning in the last episode, there is now a three page exposé on Vince and Mandy and US Weekly. And that's kind of a lesson in those days before the internet. US Weekly was could have been a good hit or a bad hit, but when they wanted to come and hear us weekly, we'll get a pretty, pretty big hammer in those days. You wanted to avoid that. But in any event, so the phone rings and then Ari send an emergency meeting at Ari's office. All right. So we get to Ari's office, and this is where we introduced one of my favorite actors who come on the podcast in a couple of weeks Beverly D'Angelo, Barbara Miller, Barbara Miller, Babs Sabse. But it's funny to Lloyd has a good rexes. Rex is Rex is funny, man. He's hilarious where he's taking. He's like, We're taking you to the war room. I'm like the war room. It's just the conference room. It's just a conference room. And he likes to call it the war room. And then he says, Which is what you know, it's a Doug Allen special. Got your favorite e some kind of chocolate brownie muffin or something? I don't know. He's got my why did we say, does anyone remember something, some kind of muffins that I like? I'm like, Thanks, Lt. And then we walk in and this is funny, Doug and I. It's really hilarious. And I guess it is kind of true. But when you have a musician slash actor, you basically have a double team, right? Yeah. So you have the music agent, the music manager, the music publicist, and then you have the theatrical team. So yeah, Ari introduces you to a team of six seven people. I mean, that really made me laugh. And I've I've seen those, those musicians who do have a crew, and it is funny when there's that many people on the payroll and they all want to feel like they're important and have to be heard. And they were all great, by the way, those little, those little parts by each of them were excellent. Another great line in there, too, Ari saying, who wants to start the show? Because Babs, you got the biggest c**k in the room. So why don't you start something like that, right? Yeah. But I thought the best line was actually because what we haven't seen, Eric said. And oh yeah, that's right. Connolly does have this amazing way hair of I thought, You're going to Connolly does have an amazing Connelly has an amazing way of playing the innocent, blushing like child, which is so not. But you did. You did a great job there because it actually made me uncomfortable and how good which I believe. Listen, Barbara Miller was one of those characters talking like all of the characters we've seen over the last decade in these female movies that get to talk like guys. And she was great, and she came in there and was based. I'm not even going to mention the name of the real agent I based it on. She was based on a very real agent and nothing that she said in that office was not. 100 percent realistic to how this woman that it was based on Talked and Beverly will talk about that because she knows she's dealt with these kind of characters in this town. And I think some of the difference is, again, just to go back to like how the thing would be different this year. Women still can get away with a lot of talking that men can't. And like I said, if Barbara Miller was to yell, Got MILF, they might laugh today. But if a guy yells it, it might be calls to, like, ban the movie. And I would like to add in the immortal words of Kevin Dillon that I loved myself in this episode. Oh yeah, you were great. You were great. I love how you stood up for Vince there, too. I'm not going to sit here and talk about this real friendship. Pretty much tell everybody to f**k off. And then I half for the first time in two seasons where I really felt like I was. I was thinking about putting hands on Ari. He's really upset. Yeah. And when you said you were excellent, but but as a as your own life persona, it's weird. Some people can get away with s**t. And that's why Dylan's both his human persona and your acting persona gets away with. I loved myself in this episode, commonly saying that he just doesn't get away with it. I did shut myself in the episode was great, but you better make sure you did. Make sure I didn't like your shirt either. But you're better off letting us tell you how much we loved you in the episode works better than I loved myself anyway. Well, I love myself in the episode as well. Yeah, you always love, you know, I actually had very little do to do in this episode. That's why you didn't want to come into it. But I did have funny lines, Larry. So what do you think about anyone who tried to get out of work tonight did not get it? I wanted to come in at one. You wanted to come in a little later. So I said, How about one? You're like 12:30. Be there, be square. We need to stop for what we need to stop. For one moment on this, I when I got his 12:30 sharp, I texted him because we have like our side chats. I was like, Oh yeah, I'm sure that'll really mobilize. That shrinks. And nobody responded. So then Dylan today, which I really actually find it funny. I don't. I don't care. So I'm just talk it out loud. We're all here. Dylan's always late Malibu is the f**king Malibu might as well be Okinawa because Dylan cannot get here on time. But Connolly sent a message which you could feel it through. The phone was kind of like the man going, I'm telling you guys right now, I want you to be on the line right now. And I was trying to picture whether Dylan got angry, laughed at it, ignored it. What was your what was your what was going through your head? Well, originally you wanted to do 12 or one one is better for me because I have to watch the episode, take notes, do all that. And yeah, a couple of other things. You got to feed the chickens. You know, I got some stuff to do. I do some things. So but what was it? Now I kind of laughed and went, All right, whatever I'll make it, I'll make it a little earlier is what you guys and look. You guys are the talent. Talented ish. Yeah. Yeah, we got it right. There are the things we want Kevin here. You know, we want we have a guest. So a lot. All right. Let me tell you something that went when I agreed to do this. When we talked about doing this, you said, Oh, you can come in any time you want. You can make your own hours. Oh, that's what I heard. All. I didn't say that. No, I'm saying, like, if I guess you got to tell by the way, you know, you know what I got. I'm cool that you know what I got. You know what I got? You're lucky enough that we even want you okay? Because you already know I already got Dylan. So that's what I got. I didn't get that flattering offer. But what's funny about the whole scenario is so I like I'm working on a show and I have to do it over Zoom with London. So at six a.m., I'm on a call with London for four or five hours. So my point is I got the message and I was my point. I was like, OK, hotshot, but I wanted to send them, so I send them a message, Oh, you're really, you're really drew the line there. So then today, of course, Dylan sends a message, I'm running a little late. The first thing I did to him was go. You really showed him Connelly. So I had to shake it up. Connolly, way to shake. But what I want to know now, I've had Dylan's thought on the situation, and I don't need all the details about all the people who work at Action Park. I know how hard they work and how awesome they are. Connelly when you sent that message. 12:30 Sharp. Were you like, I'm I'm standing up for myself right now or was it just kind of a throwaway? You're such a clown. Are you kidding? Do you really think I was upset? I'm trying to. I just organize it, trying to organize it. Got Saigon coming on. He's got a life. He's got to be able to weigh, you know, I got to do better. Yo, we got Kevin Kline. I got to do. Kind of like he's not committing to whether he could take the neighbor down. He's he's kind of like, Yeah, no, I wasn't. I wasn't. You were on it. But I said I would like to set a game plan and stick to it. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. All right. But you know, I think we should be able to make your own hours. I mean, I mean, Doug said 12:31. I said one. I said one would be better for me. So the later, the better is what I said. And Kyle wrote 12:30 Sharp, which actually I was drinking coffee with Sarah. My girlfriend did a special dispensation because it felt like I go. And I said to Sarah, I go, Listen, everyone knows how much I. Love Connolly, but I also I don't like to see him riled up because I know how wasn't around that. No, I was just asking, but I so I laughed at first. Then I'm like, Oh, I think Connolly's like off the rails today and watching football join my day. Essentially, Ari Lies and says that Cameron called OK and Vince and E find out they track they, they trap Ari, and he essentially admits that he lied about it to shake Vince up. But yeah, but I really got to talk about this because I like I'd be pissed. And so it down a lie is a lie. I do that s**t all the time. Like I would say, for instance, just in our little scenario, I would call if I was annoyed that you were late, let's say I would call you up and be like, Yo, Connelly's like, really upset about this. So it's like he means Cameron, but thank you, he told, by the way. Like, imagine if it's funny if we use Connolly as the James Cameron example here, and I called kept going on like just saying, you know, Kev Connolly's Kevin, because there's to Kevin's. It's confusing. Kevin Dillon, I just want you to know. Kevin Connolly said you could be replaced. What would your reaction be? Go f**k yourself. He can replace me right now. Then I go into the booth and start throwing him around. So anyway, my question was, do you ever do that forgetting that it's this big giant story with James Cameron? Ari doesn't think he control Kyle, but I think it's great. I mean, I see why are you would do that? Yeah. And what do you think, Holly? I will listen. At the end of the day, like you said, Doug, a lie is a lie. But you know, Vince, I mean, he misses his physical and then he wants to push his appointment. You can get in trouble for that on a big movie. And and you were right about one thing, Doug, in the writing, while you're right about a lot of things, but yeah, you don't think that that goes right to the top. You skip the physical. You don't think James Cameron knows that in real time. Absolutely. He does. Yeah, especially when he's already been alerted to the fact that there's this couple going on on the set. But I actually really like this story, which also Doug, remember he, aside from Cameron, called he's concerned. Cameron called and quote unquote, you can be replaced right now. That takes it up to the next level. That takes it up. Yeah, that's a lot. Many levels, yeah. But I think what it was is and I just I really like the story because it is, as Dylan was saying a minute ago, it's these best friends looking out for each other. And Ari is looking out for Vince, but he really doesn't know how to control them. So he's amping it up with a big story and then it becomes about trust and friendship. I liked it. I enjoyed this. Although it was great, it was a great and you know, Vince and he have a really nice scene when they go to Paramount and he and Vince is practicing the claw. And again, del di perfect word for this guy was great. So I remind everybody who Dale Dye is. Dale died trained Kevin Dillon for Platoon. He's also trained Connolly. Yeah, from me for a pilot that I was going to set up. But he's a he's really a great actor, but he really is. That's the crazy. He's amazing. He's got a huge resume. One of the funny things about that scene that is so ironic, bro, with, you know, Vince is firing harpoons at Wells and his kill kill the dolphins. Also Aquaman's friends, he killed 12 dolphins and three dolphins. Also Aquaman's amigos amigos. And I think that might have been the start of Adrian Grenier. His love affair with the whales are or maybe or his non love affair with victory, the podcast after saying, How could Doug make me kill kill these? Well, with all that I've done, this is such a bad look on my face or whale resonance. Now those were digital whales that I love whale, so because I want to help the whales. Is this the first time we saw Captain Dale Dye or? No, no. He took us scuba diving. OK, so he must come on the show. OK, I think we see more of him, don't we? I can't answer that. I feel like I don't even remember that we take it one at a time, at a time here. Well, let's get him on. Yeah, we should definitely get there. Lots to do. I gave him a call. He wants to do it. Let's do that. Vince, make up. OK? And they're now together, and they end up flipping it on already. And that's the end of the episode. But let's talk about the Saigon storyline if we're gonna get to Saigon in the few minutes. This is really interesting, Doug, and the fact that it comes from a story in real life is pretty cool. Maserati gets stolen turtle drama events. They pick up the car from the tow yard and they're listening to a really cool song. And then you guys take a couple of shots. Eddie, of course, pick on the guy that's not there. You're saying he doesn't like rap music. He likes rap music. You know what we make jokes about as much about rap music as Willie Nelson? That hurt. We, we make we definitely made me a little nerdy and drama as well, which oh, no doubt, you know, in two thousand and three, it's it's actually it's pretty hard to imagine that these guys wouldn't be into hip hop, but it was trying to differentiate the characters. So we did that. But it's funny you say it because I wasn't into hip hop you in real life, but it was a rock and roll. But you are loved it. But you weren't really the age you were supposed to be 10 years younger on the show. So show like Saigon, we should have liked Saigon for sure, but we don't know if you got to differentiate the characters, but it's funny you say you love it. It came out of real life, but you see how real life changes because my car that was stolen was a 1984 Honda Accord and this was a beautiful Maserati Quattroporte. So you know which, by the way, we always talk about cars. That's one of the most beautiful cars on the show, I guess. Bill holds Holdsworth, the Maserati, yeah, well, my least favorite car. It wasn't a great car to drive because they let me have it for a little bit, but it was beautiful to look at. It's a it's a good look, looks good on camera, but I hate it. So so the guys go on. They find they tracked down Saigon. But first we stop and we see Billy Walsh. I mean, that's a great scene. Had me laughing out loud and I can feel Weiss's lines in and a couple of moments in there. Rob Wise to be a great track for the end of QB. Yeah, QB Reece is phenomenal. I mean, it's every look he gives, every moment he has. He played it without looking at drama once. He's really, basically, he's really a moment. And what was so for people that I haven't seen the episode or hopefully you're watching after you listening to this, they go to see Billy Walsh and before they've tracked down Saigon, they're pitching. They make a deal with with Billy Walsh to use this song and Queens Boulevard for ten grand and put back in drama scene, which was what scene is this? My liquor store meltdown doesn't sound like real life for use, that for real life too. But but it was my watch. That's the crazy thing. I think that is so far, but he doesn't really what your watch for the scene. That's why I think Reese, I would love to ask him as an actor. He already knows he's putting back the scene. He's already probably already in scenes already. And yeah, yeah. So he's just like, he's he's like in the watch. I feel like he's processing the whole time. How can I get drama's watch off his wrist? But I wanted to jump back for a half a second because I think it's so funny. Adrian Vince is going to turtle. Billy Walsh is so crazy. No, I'm not going to go pitch him a movie. I'm going to send you to go pitch him a soundtrack for the movie. And when I was watching the episode, I don't know if you notice this. I don't think I was there on the set that day. I don't think Adrian is playing it like it's being funny. I think he's playing it really straight up that he'll send his driver over to the director's office to pitch him a song as opposed to him doing it. You know, like if it's Leo calling up a director and going, I'd like you to use this song, tell me what you think. But he sends over his driver. I don't know. I thought it was very funny. It was funny in those two random dudes sitting in the hotel room. We're just watching soccer. They're watching certain drugs and they're on some kind of a bender. But from when they leave, Jam has got a great line. It's like, Congratulations, you just sold the rights to a song. You don't, you don't know. You know, I just love that drama is like he will give away his watch just for a scene to be put back in. Well, let's say they'll do anything for his career. Basically, the liquor store meltdown sounds like a great. Sounds great. I'm just going to say it sounds like you've got a couple of those O'Connell. You know, we should. We should act that out. Kev Dillon. We should do that for, yeah, let's recreate the liquor store meltdown with Reese the right thing. But I just think also I was one and I was thinking about it. Like now, like, where is he in some s**t motel? Like, he had a hit at Sundance. I think we shot it in a little dumpy motel on Hollywood Boulevard, but it was really rough. Yeah, that area. It's just funny. Like, we're almost playing Billy Walsh, who was based on Rob Wise, who Rob Wise has been successful and living a good life for twenty five years since he made amongst friends. But walls, for some reason were playing him almost like he's a crack addict or like from Breaking Bad. He's just up to no good. Whatever he's doing in a hotel room with two random dudes is no good. But then you guys find Saigon, and I thought this scene was great. Dillon, I love yourself. And yeah, I'm like, I know I can. I laughed out loud, too. I also thought, and I wish. I don't know if you guys have her name. I thought Sagan's mother was fantastic. She was. She was great. Yeah. And I love how you know. Look, maybe it feels a little dated now, but Dylan is is so drama is so desperately trying to relate to this African-American woman by whoever doesn't know the reference. By saying he was on an episode of seven. It's just silly. So ridiculous. Yeah, that's funny. But then the drive over before we get there is great too. In the car where I'm like, We should be coming down. You're not strapped, should've brought my nunchucks on your nunchucks and sealed them in my Frye boots. Love that line. That is classic. Rob Weiss. Awesome. I mean, Rob Weiss probably has Frye boots still and nunchucks that he's probably rolling around with right now. On his motorcycle. You could slide the chucks in the boots. I mean, it's possible, I know, but you're going to go down to the hood with nunchucks and sausage works. Frye boots no. On Rodeo, which I love, bro. Oh gee, I love that. You know, it's funny, too for for people that don't live here in L.A., it's true there is an exact same spelling. There's Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, which is obviously you've seen in all the movies. And then there's rodeo, which is like a straight shot to the airport. Is it the same? No, no. It's completely different street, though, right? No, it's a completely different street with the same name. And it's like on the on the route to the airport. Yeah, and it goes through a couple a tough neighborhoods, but. It's funny, so there are there are two, but it is a it is kind of rodeos just sounds so much fancier. Right? It's definitely not the same straight right? It does. It goes east, west, I think. Definitely not the same street. Rodeo Road Rodeo Drive is North-South Rodeo is East West. Yeah. So I mean, but it was just it was funny. I I love the mothers, but then you track them down. Where were they working? Did they steal the car? They stole the car. Well, it looked it looked too nice to be like a chop shop of any type, but it looked like a rim shop or something. Well, it's kind of like it's kind of like the women we got running with Jeremy in the first scene. We got cars, we got Rolls Royces, we got this. It's definitely not a chop shop. Yeah, I thought it should have been in the script. I thought that's the way it was going to be, but it looked really, really kind of fancy. Well, I think a back room of a nicer place and the back room was the chop shop. But they they stole the car. They just they just never really fully admitted it. And of course, drummers say, Let me handle this. We're looking for a silky smooth cat, not a silky smooth rhyming cat named Saigon. Silky smooth rhyming cat out of love. That dialogue really are great. And though you really can play that part that you feel, you feel like you're trying to be cool and fit in. And I know you as a human are 100 per cent aware of what you're doing. So like when people say, Are you acting? It's such a dumb question. So to wrap this up because we're going to bring Saigon on, turtle ends up by the end of this as the manager to Saigon, and he has already got him a $10000 payday. And a song and the Vincent Chase movie Queens Boulevard. But Doug, before we bring Saigon on, he's coming on after this next break. Tell me, where did you find Saigon Lai Saigon? How did this happen? Love found them. And were you looking for a rapper and you were like, OK, what's we got to try to find somebody? Or did you find him and try to figure out the storyline had that? I'm pretty sure that love had him, and we built the storyline around the idea that Turtle would start to make his own way. It never really materialized. The turtle was going to become this kind of music manager, but it's weird when I watched it last night, Scott Venter, who who did our music? Not really at this point yet. He really, really. I mean, he had an input, but he really came in after season three to really make his mark. But it kind of felt like almost turtle was was a little bit of Scott Venter because Scott Venter was was my friend who at the time when he started consulting on this show, he was an assistant somewhere like Turtle was. And then he made his mark. So I think what happened was I thought it would be great if turtle kind of progresses the way the Venter did and kind of builds a career. But I think we didn't find the space for it. Or Dylan started complaining that Turtle was getting more s**t that he was ever. So look how upset he got that show. Well, yeah. Well, not everyone knows that Jeffree Star storylines were great. Boy, everybody had great story. Everybody did great. He's the only kid that I'll pay you. Thank you. So at the end of the episode, just to wrap up the episode before we go to Saigon. Turtles Saigon manager, he gets paid and then we flip it on. I think this is a little aggressive. He takes a call from Ari and says, You know, essentially, Vince is on his way to Napa at a hole up in some winery. And the show ends with Ari Gold in his car on the PCH, driving up to Napa to look for things. That's not funny at all. I thought it was great. I felt it. I felt payback for that. I felt a lie. I felt like it was guys showing guys how we operate in our town. And if you're going to f**k with us, you're going to f**k with you. I actually really loved it. It's funny. But the question is, do the guys call him in 45 minutes to have a joke and turn around and come back? For sure. You don't I to see that, you know? Right, right, right. You know, we didn't let him drive seven hours. We called him in 20 minutes and said, Hey, the more realistic question is, is the real Ari Emanuel driving that thing? Probably not. Not so Ari Gold, Ari Emanuel the worst they'd probably call. I can get a plane if they were really going to do it. But where how are they going even track him down? Anyway, there you go. And by the way, just a little shout out to a bird, which I got to find out for. Birds do silly. I think they got hurt in the fire, but one of the great hotels in the world, and I just wrote it in at the time because I loved it. And then I got a message which obviously it's pre Instagram. So I don't know how it came to me, but the like. We'd love you to come, come for a week to Oberst is so nice, so I pray they're OK, but I got a great trip out of that convenient. Nice. Yeah. If it wasn't pre-planned, well, well, there's one in Sedona to Bursch. There's this. I don't know if they're related, but it's an amazing hotel. Yeah, I think they're related, but they're great places. Also, another great place is the Four Seasons Maui that has invited. Oh yes, can we do it, guys? I'm going to go without you. We don't talk about it. But right now we got to bring on Saigon, by the way. Great scene shot in Malibu every time they shoot that house. The final scene? Oh, amazing. It looks so great magic. Oh my God, Magic Hour. You know, the dinner scene and then the Rolling Stones at the The Rolling Stones was awesome. Yes. Sympathy, sympathy for the devil which played into the fact that were they a little mean for that? I think that was good, and I think it played really nicely. But Magic Hour, we're going to do with the Four Seasons Maui CD with or without Connelly. Yes, done. We'll be back after the break with Saigon Saigon. Welcome back, Victor, the podcast, we got a great guest back on the East Coast star of the show, who we brought on, and we want to talk to him about about Saigon, what's up Saigon? What's what's up, man? How are you doing, bro? How are you doing, man? You're in New York. I'm in Stamford, Connecticut, man. Close, close, but no cigar man. Stamford, Connecticut. Our old stomping grounds, Stamford. You know, they're a little bit better on the COVID. You know that they handled it a little bit better in New York. So I ran, I ran away. Nice. It was just not too far from Westchester. And so why did you go to the park? It actually did. Yeah. Stanford had some gum on the rock. There could throw a rock. The Westchester. Yeah, you could throw a rock practice like a long par five away. So Saigon, where, you know, dug. This might be a question for you. But how many people actually had an actual episode named after the very few write books? Beach. Very, very few. Man, when you guys did that, I was like, Whoa, man, I was like, because when I when I bought the DVD and I seen, you know, welcome to Oh, what is it? Good morning. I got I got this call. Good morning, Saigon. Oh man, I was high. I was so Saigon. Do you remember how this all came about? Like, were you working with love? Is that how this happened? I don't even remember. No, actually, I was working with a guy named G. Oh yeah. Signed me, who just signed me to Atlantic Records. And the show was the show was brand new. Like, I guess he had a relationship with Liev and Rob Weiss. And I think even Mark, you know, you know, and you guys were looking for new artists. And he was like, Yo, they want an artist is on the cusp of blowing up and is no, but you know, like underground, like almost like the role I played on the show. So, you know, I didn't I would think I didn't think none of it. I was so hype about getting a record deal because I literally just got my record deal that month. So I was so gung ho about being on Atlantic Records. I was like, TV, I don't give a s**t show. So, yeah, so. So they were like, would you? Would you? Would you mind flying out to California to at least read for an audition for? I was like, Yeah, you know, it can't hurt because then you guys that already wrapped season one, the eight episodes. Right? I don't know if it aired. I don't know about it aired yet, but I know you guys had at a wrap. The first, the first season, which was eight episodes. So when you came out to L.A., you didn't really know the show. You just know, Gee, I don't know. I didn't. I had. No, I was. I was literally. I can't believe they made you audition. So, yeah, and they do make me and I had to read. I had to read, you know, for dog and love and voice, I had to read, you know, so and you know, it's funny because I did one independent film like prior to that, like years ago, this film called Rage and Discipline, it was actually produced by Roger Corman, right? Yeah. But it was a super indie film, and the guys are those Corman movie, bro. You talk them out. They they they put it on as best movie of the week one time. And we had Kurt so much. Everything was beep. Beep. Beep, beep, beep beep. Like while we were shooting. Nobody watching entourage. No spark spike. Spike TV spark. Oh, like, I couldn't. I was like, damn. Well, nobody told us to cut cut back because he was like, Oh, improv. We were like, You guys would talk and we talk with a lot of curves. So it was like, mother, f**king f**k s**t. We've got seven curses in a row. It sounds like beep beep beep. Probably had a good rhythm to it. The beat. Yeah. You know, like Sal, like Morse code is some s**t. So after you got on, Trish, how long later were you shooting it? Once they call, once I realize I got the part, you guys, you guys flew me out there pretty quick and I was staying in Westwood. I was staying at one of GS apartments in Westwood, and I still, I'm not going to lie. I still was like, Get me back in the studio. Me, knock the s**t out it. It's like, you know, there's not too many lines. And I think I was, I was. I ended up getting more scenes afterwards. But because the first, the first, the first glimpse you guys have sent me, it was like I was supposed to be kind of in and out, you know, so it was like, OK, it's a small part. I went out there, I read you guys. And then a couple of weeks later, I was out there shooting, shooting. And I remember I remember that. Yeah, I remember realizing how big a deal was when I seen the production set, when I seen like 80 million trucks and s**t, Oh yeah, oh, this this. This is maybe bigger than I thought. And I seen it over the real production. It was a little bigger than the Roger Corman movie. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, we had one camera, one camera guy you should have known when you saw Kevin Dillon. Big s**t was coming, right? So then, OK, so we do it. We shoot, which, you know, we could talk a little bit about the shooting, but when it aired, is the show then kind of taking off that it did? It hit? Yeah, season two. But see when the show aired now, now by season two, it's a hit. It's a baby hit. It's a hit in the making. So now I'm excited. Like once season one is and I know I got it's in the pipeline because now everybody's talking about this entourage s**t. And I mean, like you guys seen as it was meteoric, it was. It was like, Whoa, yeah, yeah. Now I'm getting excited. About it now, I'm like, OK. And I remember one thing when Doug, I don't know if Doug remembers this when I was shooting the my first scene like the garage scene. I'm like a bit of a perfectionist in music. So I kept telling Doug, like you, I could do a better. I could do it better. He's like Saigon. We got what we need. I'm like, Nah, but I could do. It was like, Bro. Trust me, we needed you to do it over. Oh, we actually would do it again. Yeah. You know, you would be doing, you know, annoying 20 Pro I got what the f**k I need like yo Doug. But I could do a better man. Tell you I could do better if I was rude, I apologize. But Dylan probably did that to me 400 times before that. I had always want extra takes and Saigon and Doug. It does feel odd complimenting you. But we talked a little bit about this last week. That was the best thing about when Doug was there, when he said, You got it. You did have it, for sure. It was only the first time that I did that because afterwards I realized that he he had what he had, what he needed, you know? So I got an interesting question, though, because you don't know the show when you're acting it up with these guys, is Jerry. I mean, again, maybe you don't even think it's funny, but are you able to keep a straight face with Jerry and Dylan? Because I thought I was laughing? No answer. No, because because you was making it hard, because especially in A.. And like I said, my first scene was the garage scene. You know, when we stole the car and you guys came out with the with the CD. You would do this thing before we take like tiresome s**t. So good. Yeah, that's Dylan. Yeah. And I'd be laughing so hard. I couldn't get a straight face because I still believe in it. That's it. I'm like, You do it just to kind of find myself a little bit, you know, sometimes we're really tired. I'll do that. Give us an hour ago. We need some energy here. Oh, man, that seems to make me die laughing. And I couldn't get back in the character before you guys would take. So I sometimes I'd be like, Come on your man cave, please just don't do it this time. Oh, I'm sorry about Skynet. The Last Dragon are there. These are times I never forget. Like, these are times of my life and my career. They were like mine, some of the best times of my life. So. Oh, cool. It was great. How many episodes did you end up doing? You did a partnered up doing. I ended up being probably in three or four episodes. Yeah, I think three or four. But you guys talked about me again for another five. Felt like Turtle was mad at me for another five episodes. Yeah, f**king Saigon. So and so's my new actor it airs. Did you get a big reaction after it? Big reactions and understatement, man. Like that show turned me into like that. So let me know what it felt like for those three or four years. I know what it felt like to be famous. Like really famous. Like this popular. Then this famous is I felt famous for those couple of years. You know, before that, I was a little popular and all of that. Then I went back to popular. But for those few years I was thinking that I was famous motherf**ker. To this day, to this day, like, I guess, because I grew my hair and, you know, I got a gruesome facial hair a little bit more. I introduced myself to people and I go, Yeah, I'm Saigon. And they and they say, Oh, like the guy from Entourage. And I got to be like, Sometimes I'll be like, That's me, but sometimes I just don't even bother. I'd be like, Yeah, like, like, like the guy from entourage. Yeah, I do that, too. Sometimes that's how I get that all the time that Johnny drama thing. So oh no, I could imagine. I could imagine, bro. So people on the, you know, the victory, the podcast page, which we have this page you saw today, they had some questions they wanted to ask you. And let's see. I don't know who it is, but this one guy says the episode where you're at the house with the guys smoking, he wants to know why you didn't clear the bong. Does he not smoke? Or was it a shot a bunch of times and just not caught? Oh boy, it's not a question I would ask. If I don't know, I don't even like what the what the hell does clear the bong, I guess gets the old stuff out. You tap it out and you've, you know, you could you could add to the bong without you don't have to clear it every time. Actually, for somebody who doesn't really smoke in real life, I thought I did great because I'm watching. I'm like, I look like a real smoker and I really don't smoke weed. So I was I was convinced, you know, like, I'm sure they know by now we won't smoke a real weed. I have some number one question people used to ask me like, Yo, I said, Do you know how I would be if we had to f**king do them takes and we smoke and we're real. We we got our lines do the f**king yeah, we got our lives. This one fell asleep. Like, there's a lot of work that goes into, you know, getting the scenes right. So when you got to do a bunch of takes, we can't use real f**king we don't know. I thought, Yeah, I thought, you killed it just so you guys know, clearing the bong. And I wasn't even taking a bong hit about eighty two years. But I think it's when you you light it and then it blast through like you finish it. Like, Oh, like when it got shot, you snap it and you clear. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not that experienced. I tried to drive. So did did it. Did being on the show, did it help the music career at all? Did that get you any new doors and any? It helped my life, man. I still get out of f**king speeding ticket because is like it's it's helped my life in so many ways. The only way, the only way it hurt my music career is because the label wasn't ready to catch up to the speed at Entourage is moving. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't able to catch up because the show was doing so well and they didn't felt like they had the album that they wanted to put out. But I'm like, Let me. I was happy with the album that I created, and I was like, You know, let let this s**t work hand in hand because the show's going, well, at least let me get my foot in the door with the music, and I was at a time where they were like 50 Cent. It just came out and they, like, he sold 20 gazillion records. So they were just trying to make me compete with 50 Cent and I was like, Bro, first of all, we two different kind of artists. Second of all, I want to build my. I want to be able to build my career step by step like a nas or the roots, or people get the last long because they have a foundation and an Atlantic just cared about swinging for the fences. And another reason they were like, and I'm like, if I put this music that we have out now along what's going on with the show, we things are going to resonate to the point where the next album is going to do better and we're going to be able to grow, and we just didn't see eye to eye on from that aspect. And another thing like when I was when I would go out and the show got so big when I would go out and try to do my music, my focus used to be like, Oh, this guy really is trying to rap now, like the guy from Entourage thinks he's a rapper and be like, Yo, the f**k that was rap. They found me rapping. They thought you were an athlete and a rapper like this. It is real. It's like basically lose out on reality. And people would be a lot of people, weren't they? Weren't they? They felt like especially actors in Hollywood. They thought you were an actor pretending to be a rat. You know the opposite. Do you do any more acting? Have you done any more acting since Entourage? Yeah, yeah. I got a film coming out. I got a film coming out of the shadows. You know, I did a little. I did a lot of acting after that, actually. Entourage Entourage was was actually a great, great great thing for my career because it opened a lot of doors and it put me in a lot of rooms I wouldn't have been in get it had I not been on that show. It introduced me to a lot of friends and people I would have probably never got next to. Had I not been on that show because that show, so many people loved the show, so they were more capable of being open to do business and to even sit with me and talk with me because, you know, they were fans of the show. Well, it's awesome. I mean, and we loved having you, and it's I feel bad that, you know, that kind of thing happened that happened with, you know, Saigon came back for the movie and did a little scene with Mark Cuban, and we were talking about the Aveo tequila, which was my friend's company. And it was like, you know, his dream was to get it on the show. And then all of a sudden, everyone thought it was like a fake tequila. So, you know, obviously it was a blessing for him as well. But a little bit of that kind of, you know, how do you separate the two? But listen, man, yeah. Doug, let us do an improv scene like I wasn't written into the movie, but you know, I used to harass Doug. Like Yo, I used to DM Doug. Like Doug, I don't give a f**k about guidelines and I got to be in his film. Some of them taken would have taken out the garbage. So like, yeah, I got be at a film. So he was like, Fly out and I'll make that happen for you. Oh, awesome power move, bro. I love that. Yeah, Doug's the man, bro. Doug Doug always held me down, bro. Oh, I love that guy. I love you, guy, man. You know, and I don't want to. I don't want to, like be bouncing around because I'm excited right now about even talking to I miss the crew. Yada yada yada brother. Oh, man, we had a good time. So he let he let in. And then the other day, Doug, because I was on target. So wow, when Doug, let us do an improv scene, I played off the whole Shark Tank thing with Cuban dice, so I was like, Bro, man, I got an idea for Shark Tank. I want to pitch to you. He's like, What are you talking about? So I was like, Think about it. Maybe you own a basketball team, bro. Sweaty ball wipes like Go Guy, you ain't got time to hit the showers. He could just go pick up a, you know, it's almost like women got them little sanitary napkins they don't make for us. I'm thinking sweaty ball waves, man. It's a sweaty ball. I say you sweaty ball wipes, bro. So, so, so you know, he laughed me off like beach of feet or whatever. So men target the other day. What do I see, sweaty boy? No way. Let's show them what they will call the mothership. But I took a picture and I sent it to Doug. I said, See Doug, I was on. I mean, you were always happy to get our piece. I wonder I'm going to make a few calls. I wonder if Cubans involved with that. But yeah, I know, right? Cuban? Yeah, I said it looked at the f**king packages. Mark. Cuban man waits to see. Well, I mean, listen, man, it is, it brings back a lot of great memories, and I remember when we were searching for you and we wanted to find something that we thought was a great actor and had music that we all loved. So you brought both of those to the table. We appreciate it and thank you all for letting me use my name because I know that's that was one of my things I said before I even got the chance to do the show. I said, Do you think it's possible I can use Saigon instead of like a made up name? And you guys let that rock. And you got it, man. Like I said, me, me and Jerry have become lifetime friends. Like, That's like my brother, bro, like me and Jerry. Even his mother. I talked to his mom like she's the man became like, this. Like, That's one of my closest friends in the world. And that bond started. But, you know, because of entourage and to the point where, you know, I'm no, I hold myself partially responsible for Jerry's for his new little bundles of joy. Because when I had my when I have my daughter, you know, she was about eight months, seven months old, and Jerry was shooting a movie in our bar to a movie set. And he met my daughter and he held my daughter, and he just was like, Oh man, so are you giving me baby fever? You know, I go. And then, you know, couple of years later, you know him and his wife, you know, they they gave birth to the little Jacob. And now I got the baby girl. Yeah. So, yeah, he's got a baby girl coming to come, and soon it might as well. We haven't heard about it, but anything's possible thing happening on that front for me. I already got to say, I love seeing you guys, man, I love just this. It brings back. It was so long ago, but it seems like so like it, like yesterday because we shared a lot of good times. It does feel like yesterday. Another story I want to tell you this is a this is a story. Probably none of you guys know that Mark. It was one of those launch parties. I think it was season three. Yeah, it was the season three launch party. One of those fancy parties that regular guys can't come to. Is it? And I remember I remember seeing a few rappers and basketball players who recognize me online, but I'm walking in with you guys. We're like Mark and walking in with you guys and they're like, You'll sigh. Like, like, I could get them in. I'm like, f**k you. You see who I'm like. So, you know, I remember Dame Dash like Little Saigon, bro. Look it up like, hell, I'm not even supposed to be in this motherf**ker. And if you're a dame dash and they won't let you in, if I was with Mark and these guys, I definitely wouldn't be getting in. So if you think I have the juice to get you in, bro, you're sadly mistaken. But that night, you know what I was as I'm standing around watching all the females just stare at mark and s**t like, Oh guys, they like staring at this. Do you know Jillian thought they were staring at him? Thanks for breaking his heart. So as I'm watching, so I, you know, I get a few jokes to me, so I go over to talk to them and we, you know, we make a small talk. And I saw something in me was like, Yo, I try to convince Mark Wahlberg that he should make another rap album, and the guy you talk him out of looks could kill if looks could kill you out of died at that party. I did not take well to that. I tried to really. I got drunk and I'm like, Yo, think about it, man. Like, This is your time. This is time to come back. Mark, Mark. He's looking at me like, Are you f**king r****ded? I like the idea. I don't think it's a good. Do you know what I've been doing for the past 10 years or so? Yeah. Like, I'm only at A-list f**king actor in Hollywood. Yeah. It's like you want me to go back to making f**king half a billion dollars in the bank. Do you really think I'll get you back in this? Yeah, exactly. Just make it out. I'm going to go hang out in Boston, too. Should I go? Hang on Boston on the corner? Is it? Yeah, that's what you should've told him. So I got do another Calvin Klein ads. You're doing something with socks would be f**king magical, you know now. But man, those those guys are great guys. And then at the and then at the party to permit the launch party for the movie, Mike Tyson was so high, bro. He I'm nervous. Like, I'm like, Yo, Michael, something like, OK, I know that I know what that face means. Enjoy your night, Mike. Got it ! Well, anyway, Simon, this was f**king great. Well, well, maybe do it again. We'll talk about the movie. I don't know. We'll see, but it was great to see ya. We'll talk on. Well, I'll talk to you on message after, but it really does. It brings back guys for having me. And again, I just want to congratulate you guys for making an amazing piece of our history. Amazing show that probably that has stood the test of time and will stand the test of time because kids watch it now and they get into it and kids who didn't know nothing about it and I still get a million tons of people talk about entourage. I mean, we ten years later, you know, so that's why you know, you did something that was very impactful in some. Made it and made a mark, I made a stain, so congratulations to you guys and thank you for having me a part of it, you know? I learned so much from it. I learned professionalism. I learned about. I learned. I learned a lot from you guys. I just want you to know that. Thanks. Thank you, man. Maybe what you get in in the reboot, if we could talk Doug in it to go and there's going to be a reboot, they have to reboot by the wayside. How old are you now? Maybe he can play Vince because we can't get f**king great rally around him. Yeah, yeah, you know. You know. You know, I can make myself look young. I can make myself look old. You're looking good right now, 40s. But I'm not. I'm not. I know the trick here. I know how to trick you. Hell yeah. Well, stay away. So why hasn't Adrian done the podcast? I don't know what he'll do it. He's in Australia. I mean, Saigon. I know you've left some of your tougher roots behind, but maybe you can send some threatening messages over. There kind of be like, Yo man, what happened to the honeysuckle? Whose name is this group? The Honey brothers? Whatever. That's an even better name, honey. Just so everyone knows the honey brothers are a band. That age was then. But but Saigon? Yes, I would say if you don't do the podcast, I'm playing all that honey brothers. s**t, man, that's awesome. Well, thank you so much. I'll hit you up after this, but we appreciate and thank you all. So stay safe. The best of the family man brother. Yeah, right, Saigon. Take it easy, brown. Take care. I had to be good. I mean, listen, I got to be honest with you. He got me a little emotional like, you know, it was like it did bring back a lot of memories. And it does feel weird that it was like 15 years ago. And it does kind of feel like yesterday at the same time, what a great guy. He's the best. He's just always has been a really big hearted great, just a nice guy. You know, a couple of interesting things that that he was saying, which is really got to be kind of crazy in hindsight. He was saying that essentially the the record company didn't want to ride the Entourage wave and kind of write, Is that what? It didn't think his album was ready at the time. And he did, though, and he felt, he said, I think it's ready. Let's roll it out with the show while it's airing. Doug, do you think that would have been a good call on their part? Of course I do. I mean, I I wonder if they knew because like he said he was, he was filming the show before the show really blew up. So I think they underestimated where it would be when it actually aired. And of course, it would have been great to have that coincide with each other. And you know, he's a super talented guy. And just like everything else in this business, timing can often be everything. And you know, and you do have to capitalize on those moments, which is, you know, why we're trying to capitalize on this. So anyway, it was a great conversation. It's also funny to watch you like, listen to you kind of try to talk st when you're talking to like a guy that's just you pick up talking to Mayor Daley. I'm talking to you, Doug. I do not change anything for anybody. I did not hear him talk st. Yeah, a little bit. Hey, so I go, I'll hit you later, bro. I take it easy. You silky smooth ride at Saigon. Connolly's so on me because it is f**king you. So oh gee bro, you're so yeah, you're right. I hit you after. I'll hit. You have to yo, you get a hit, people. I mean, the truth is I was, you know, the truth is, you want to know what the real you never say, Connolly, I'll hit you. You want to know what my motivation was. The guy in the booth, the little man, because he has me so f**king stressed. Like I could talk to Saigon for an hour and a half because like, listen, I got to be at the doctor in 30 minutes, so I need to find out. So like I do, I feel I feel the price said. We did an hour of the episode and we want to keep the dog also to, by the way. Nice try. You struck out four times, but you really did try to wrap it up and I appreciate it. But you know, I mean, I think, you know, we have a sweet spot for length of the episodes. It's a little long. We'll figure it out. But he was a great guest. Listen, I'm a team player, I'm a team player. I try to listen to everybody and you know, I try to be on time. I try to be a I'll be on time next year. I got to say, guys, I really do mean this. I love you guys. And it was emotional to see him. It was, oh, no doubt, and that makes me think it's like, I do think about all these things watching Kev Dillon's kids grow up on this show. Watch Jerry have a baby college about two. My kids grow up on this show. It's Adrian's wails grew up on the show. It's just like, It's all weird, so I'll hit you after we're done recording, bro. You've never told me you'll hit me. That's all saying. That's all I want to say. Anyway, it was it was a great conversation, and that wraps up another episode of Victor's podcast. I'm Doug Allen, but you can follow us on, Please Do at Vic through the podcast page and the Twitter and the Tock and all that stuff. I'm Kevin Dillon, Kevin Dillon Official Victory. All right, I'll hit you guys up later in the show. Later in the game.
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