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No contract , no compromise available at Walmart and Walmart.com 5G capable device required actual availability , coverage and speed may vary . Hey everybody . You're listening to Katelyn Bristow's podcast Off the Vine . Take it away , Brie Wine . Lots of wine may be on the internet . Let's go . Hey , Ramon Pino ready for the show ? Everyone's welcome . So come on , man , because of the better begin . Hey . Welcome to Off the Vine , I'm your host , Caitlin Bristow . Yeah , we fancy like Applebee's on a day and I got a serious day with the Oreo shake and some whipped cream on the top two . Yep , that's right . Walker Hayes is back on the pod today for the third time . We've really been through a lot together in these last six years , but it's been two years since I last talked to him . And holy crap , so much has happened since we last chatted . I've been seeing him literally everywhere and just could not wait to catch up on him in his crazy life . It was so , so good hearing about all of his success and his amazing wife and his six kids and all the Applebee's that they get to eat now for free . I'm expecting my gift card in the mail . He's just so humble and wise and real , and I just always loved chatting with him and catching up . So I know you guys are going to love this combo as well . Oh , coming to us live from the bus , I love it . How are you ? I like the baby . Oh , thank you . You know , what's so funny is I go back and forth because I'm Canadian . We call it a tuk . And now I'm back in the states . I call it a beanie and I get so I was at home and I was like , Hey , has anyone seen my beanie ? And everyone was like , What the hell is a B ? What's a beanie ? You know , it's hilarious . You just explain that to me because right when I said Beanie , I was like , I'm just trying to sound cool because I actually call on a toboggan . I know that's what my dad is , what my parents called it . They were like , Yo , where's your toboggan ? And then I know that's way cooler than the baby . Actually funny , though , because I was doing a quiz with Katy and Blake , who just were on The Bachelorette and I , Blake's from Canada and Katie's from Seattle . And so I was quizzing her on like Canadian terms . And she guessed that a 2GB beanie was called a toboggan . And now it is . Now I'm questioning everything because I laughed in her face and now I'm like , Maybe was right . You need to call her and apologize . It is a it's a legit word for that hat . Yeah , I never I never heard Beanie , so I got all , you know , gets Tennessee and people are like , Oh , beanie . But it was weird to kind of like the same thing with coke . Like people say soda in Tennessee , and I'm like , No , it's a coke and soda pop . I was about to say I was going to guess that you call it a pop . So yeah , and some people call it soda pop , soda pop . Some people call it soda pop . I don't know . I just I love all the different terms for between , like Canadians and Americans . Jason , my fiance was born and raised in Buffalo , and he has a lot of Canadian terms and sayings in him , and it's so funny going over it . We were just , like I said , back home in Canada and we were doing it with my niece and nephew who are she's 13 and he's nine and we were going through and they thought it was so funny the certain terms that , oh yeah , the Americans have compared to Canadians , so funny . Does he say both instead of both ? Does he say both ? Oh , because Brian , my tour manager , is from Buffalo and he says both . And I'm always like , Man , that sounds so Canadian to me , but I'm just , I'm Canadian . That's it . Well , sometimes you sound super Canadian and other times I don't know what the hell it is . Because he says his O's like A's . He'll say hockey instead of hockey . Oh yeah . And like he calls a documentary documentary , he's a stockbroker . He's a secretary . And I think it's so funny . Well , the last thing I'll say about it , there is a quiz . I don't know if you've seen this quiz , but it's like twenty five questions and it will ask you , What do you say ? You guys , are you all you know ? Do you turn the light on or own ? And it will . It will tell you . It will tell you the city you are from . Come on now , legit . Like when I took it , I was so confused because I was like , man enough . Like , you call a shopping cart , a buggy , a shopping cart . You like it ? Ask you all these questions . And some are thinkers like , I don't really know . And so when you when you don't know one , you think you're messing up the quiz , but it literally said , you're from Mobile , Alabama . And I was like , No fricking way that I know , okay , I'm going to do . I'm going to do that as soon as I'm off this podcast with you , because now I'm intrigued if they'll know I'm from La Duca , Alberta . Doug , you watch out , it'll blow your face off . It's pretty awesome . Oh gosh . Well , you're blowing my face off with all the ticktalk stuff you've been up to . It's so crazy because remember , the first time we talked was so long ago , like five years or something to go and you were like , We should do another podcast in like a year and see where I'm at with this . And so we did . And then you were just starting ticktalk two years ago , and I was like , I've downloaded it and I do not understand what's going on . And you were you , like , had a person that was helping you with Tik Tok ? And now I look , and you're like getting thirty two million views on your TikTok videos with your daughter . And it's so awesome to see because TikTok is obviously the hot thing right now . And yeah , look where it's gotten you two years later with TikTok . It's insane . I remember talking to you , and I think we just chatted about how , you know , you figure out one social platform and you're like , I got this on like , like , I literally could cruise the rest of my career with this . I'm good at , you know , you're like , I know how to do the I can I can guess how many likes and the way people are going to respond , you know , and you figure it out and then they're like , Oh , this is the new one , you know ? And you're like , Oh . And part of you wants to hate it . You're like , It's stupid . Please let it be hated . So it just goes away , and I don't have to do it , you know ? But that wasn't the case . Like you said , you know , with TikTok , and I know you're killing it as well . Which I'm proud of you , because I remember when we were both like , I don't know , man . Like what ? How do you get down on this ? But I will say over COVID , you know , it took a lot of pressure off me socially because I didn't have any cool stuff to boast about . So it was like all I can do is be me . Like , I know how many cool shows , no cool stats , didn't really release me songs . It was literally just us at the house . And so I really feel like what helped me was I enjoyed Tik Tok . I got over myself and I was like , This is actually fun , you know , to do these dances and you can hate all you want , but I'm having a good time with my daughter , you know ? Well , exactly that was you . You and your whole family are everyone's so entertaining in their own way , and it was such a it's such a cool platform for you guys because you were able to share music on it . Your family time . Have fun . I know both of us were like , Is this just for kids dancing ? Like , I don't know . But no , there's so much more to TikTok . It's like educational . It's fun , it's funny . And there's so much going on in you and your family . Just have a blast doing it . It is , I mean , you know , and yeah , you can either knock those things and be kind of daunted by them or you can just have some fun , you know , like I said , you know , get I got over myself and I was like , You know , if I'm gonna be entertainer , this is this is part of it . Let's figure this thing out . And really , it turned from trying to figure it out . So really enjoying it . I mean , if you look at all my posts is not always my music . Like Lila and I , we cross the renegade like we . We nailed it . We had a blast doing it , you know , and I and I hit the wall like it took me a while to be like , How do you what do you even do there ? You know ? No , the wall now , dude , I could cross the whoa , I get it all the criss cross and all . But you know , and I really I have fun doing it like me and Lila laugh . We spend hours together just learning these dances and and we did one of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air the other day . Just she was like , Yo , let's let's pop this off . But it's so much fun . And what I love about TikTok is you just never freaking know . Like , you know , some sometimes I'm like , This is going to be viral , and it gets like three comments and nothing . And then I'll literally get on the thing and be like , Oh , and then and then it's like five billion views , you know ? And I'm like , What ? What did I do ? What it's it's so it's like a it's a fun game of not knowing what is going to pop off . But this is funny because Jason was talking to somebody over in Tik Tok land like higher up , and they were talking about how their algorithm works in certain ways is it's almost like the slot machine effect . So it makes people keep coming back and making videos because that one's going to hit it and it's going to go viral . And then you're like , Well , what else can I do because you think about it ? What's the largest show you've ever played ? Oh , twenty two thousand twenty two thousand , which is not chump change compared ? Yeah . Right . Like , when they're all standing in front of you , you're like , Holy shit , this is . Yeah . And then you think about how many football fields and stadiums of people have watched your Tik Tok , and it's just a whole other platform and stage to be on and get to your family to be a part of it . Do ? It is . And you know , I dare like anybody hating on TikTok . I truly think it's because . They're probably a little like it's so creative . I mean , I get on there , if I go right now and I scroll on the next 10 , you know , a couple of them are going to be really dirty , but they're still going to be really , really smart and like , I'm like , How did you , you know , how did you just think you come up with that , you know ? No , it's it's really showing people's creativity . And it is . And it's it's making it's a fun . Oh my gosh . As a musician , it's so much fun . I cannot wait . We have a new song coming out next week . I can't wait to let it go on TikTok and just see it again . The date of May , it may not do as well as I thought , but it's a fast way to learn , you know , from your fans . And again , I don't know about you , but I just feel like Tik Tok is . It's just born for the less curated mind . Like , I don't have to overthink a post or dress up for it . Like , I'm literally like , Hey , what ? I'm doing this , bam . And then and like you said in a minute , a million people have seen it . And and you know , who knows if it'll go , if it'll catch that river where it's like 10 million views , or if it will just kind of keep creeping ? I don't know . It's wow . All right . We're going to pause the podcast to talk about straight talk . 5G is here , but the big carriers want you to sign a pricey long term contract to get on it . Not anymore , because straight talk wireless has rolled out 5G coverage nationwide , with plans starting at just $35 a month and no contract all on America's best networks . 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I mean , it really is wild , and it's so cool , and I just I get so excited for you when I see all this stuff happening because I've just followed you for so long and I know so much about your story and everywhere that you came from and just full circle moments for you and that , you know , obviously your ticktalk that went so viral with Leila , with the Applebee's song like , did you because , you know , as a musician , there's so many songs where you're like , This is going to be the song that changes my career . And then sometimes it doesn't . Or sometimes it's the opposite where you're like , Are people going to like the song ? And then , yeah , completely goes off . What were you thinking when you did that TikTok in that song ? Were you like , this ? Is it ? So , you know , we have been removed from society , so I was out of the bubble for a year , and honestly , I just kind of stopped caring and I was like , You know , I'm on cruise control . I got a nice fan base . If we ever start to wear it again , I'll tour , you know , make up some of some of the money we've lost in the past year . I'll get back to my band . We'll have fun . As far as song selection , I have no , I do not have that gift . Caitlin , like every song I pick , is a turd . It just never works . It's like every song that I'm like , This is gonna be huge . It's just , you know . And so I don't really trust my instincts . But I will say when we put out the EP , if like you , if I was in your car and you were like , Yo play and what you're doing next , I'd be like , Listen to this song because the eight oh , eight , just that base hit so hard . And I don't think anybody in country has that much fun , you know , like it's just it's crazy . Like country songs are so good and they're they're tight , but they don't just slap like that , you know ? And when that hits , I'm like , back that thing up . Let's go , you know , like it . Even my kids , like in our house the first time I played them for that , I played them each of them on headphones . And when it got to that moment , their faces were like , Oh , and then when I hit the bass , they all went . You know , they just flipped out . And so I knew I look , I knew I loved it . I knew that it was so me . Yeah , I wanted to release it three days after we released it . Lila just came home . We came home after church one day and she was like , Yo , man , she needs a dance dad . And we had done one . So some other songs and I was like , Let's go . And so we created that really fast . I mean , super fast and had no idea that we would be sitting here with what's going on with that song right now . It's insanity . It really is insanity . Like my mom is all over the tick tock def . My niece and nephew , like everyone is doing it . You're everywhere . I turn on the TV , I hear it on the commercial . It's in the radio . It's playing on like not even just country . It's on like no one hits radio and it's it's just everywhere . And it's so cool because it is such a fun song that also slaps node it slaps is the best word about it . Like when I even when I hear it , like at a stadium , you know , at a baseball , I'm like , Dude , it's shaking the bleachers like this bumps and . And I just love that . Like , that's that's that's what I've always wanted to be able to do with my music . And so it's exciting . But look , let's be honest , like . What's another cool thing about it is like , let's let's let's put out some facts here , OK ? Six kids , right ? I live in like suburbia of suburbia like it is the it is the whitest , lamest neighborhood of all time . Like , it's it's fresh blacktop , you know , like we all have the same same garbage can . You know , it's literally like if you walked in a Lego Movie , there's a pattern . Yeah , it's not like super super wealthy . I have no cool clothes like I still wear the Under Armour shorts I got from my practice in high school there long ago , but they go below my knees . I wear a lot of like socks with sliders . Yeah , I do that . I do the math now . Well , I don't know . I don't really care what's in . That's the thing is , I'm just a big , dorky dad . I grew this beard out over COVID , you know , some gray in it . I'm forty one . I'm a nerd . I'm just such a nerd . Like , I don't , I don't have . There's not one cool thing about me , and I'm walking around outside talking to Kesha on the cell phone , you know , and and we're doing we're doing a remix on the biggest song on the planet . And I've got like mustard on my shirt , you know , from my grilled cheese and mustard from lunch . It's just crazy , you know , I just want to be a fly on the wall when all these like super influential people like Ed Sheeran is like , Oh , I was going to have the number one song this week , but there's this dude who is this dude ? And then he googles me and I'm like , cross-eyed in my living room . You know , like doing this nerdy dance with my kids . I just want to be a fly on the wall . Like , What are they ? What are they thinking watching all this ? And it's just unlikely . I know , but I think that's part of your charm because you are just being who you are , and it's so fun to watch someone thrive in just being themselves . I think that's it's so exciting to watch somebody thrive when they're just being true to themselves and succeeding in that because I just think in the world that we live in and after going through all of this pandemic stuff , I think people crave that is just like somebody that's not trying too hard , but still being successful by being who they are . And I think that's so cool . And clearly it's working and it's relatable , and I think that's what people miss . I think that's a huge part of your EP and things that you're doing is , I know you've said before you're trying to make that one hit that just sticks or you know what you've done , but you've also gone back to just being who you are and writing music . That means something to you . And if it works , it works . And I like that mentality . Yeah . You know , when I watch , I've watched the OG video of Lila and I , and I confess there is an intangible it's joy . It's like , I don't know . And you know what ? We haven't really do like , I've done a lot of stuff and now my audience is huge , so I do get a lot of views on whatever . But that video there is something that happens in it , you know , where I'm like , We just didn't care . Like , we're just to a dad and his daughter , and we were just having a good time . And you can tell there were no expectations . I don't even know if we did it right . But you know , it's been it's been so cool , honestly . And the fact that the family is involved and again , you know , you talk about me being mean . What a relief . Like , you know , I don't have to I don't have to wait for anybody like this . This is it . This is what you get . You know , I've had this sweatshirt on for many days , and I don't plan on changing it tomorrow , and I won't change it until it smells bad . That's the rule , and I like that . But , you know , I just I just get I just get to be me for a second . You know , if that doesn't work , I'll be tempted to fake it . I'll be like , Oh God , you know , how to how do I do I ? I do . I'll be famous again . But for now , it's so freeing that that my family is a family affair . Yeah , we we all kind of are succeeding together . My kids , my daughter . Just what a . Can you imagine you're 15 ? You just do this dance with your dad . And it impacts the world , you know , and you really just got to see how . 30 minutes that you spent with your dad and two videos later . The Earth is , is is having fun , you know , and that's the coolest part is that it's she can see and your whole family can see how something so small can make such a huge impact . And I think from what I know of you and your family and how I see you , you both parenting like I think you can show your kids that it's not about like the fame or the numbers . It's the impact that you can have on other people . And I think that it comes through even social media seeing you both doing that right ? No , it's just me that to me , it's a lesson to me . You know , it's like you just never know what one second of your life , how how it can affect you . You know , and I'm sure you are sure you know that , you know , especially when you're talking and people are listening , you can accidentally say a sentence that gives somebody that hope . They need it , you know , and you're like , Man , I don't even remember saying that . And you know , but anyway , we're we are grateful with this . Success is super busy , and I find it hard to balance , you know , just family and work because I love my job and I really do . I mean , I it's tough . It's definitely an affair . I have learning . We discuss it all the time . It's like , What am I choosing ? Why am I choosing that ? Could I be ? Could I choose more wisely saying yes and no to stuff ? So we're going to have to get a hold of that . But man , it's such a joyful time for me and my team . I mean , you knew us five years ago , and so I had , you know , there's some people who are crazier than me , and that's the people that signed me and said , I believe that this guy has something to offer and it's different . Yeah , but the world is going to hear it one day , and this is their moment . And honestly , nothing could make just fill my heart more than seeing the people around me . That Shane McAnally , Rob Carlton Morris , it's like these this team around me who have believe and now they're there . I hope they're just going everywhere , saying , I told you , you know where they are ? Yeah , yeah . So that's that's that's a sweet victory for me . It is . It's I know you talk about balance and how hard that must be because I mean , truthfully , I feel the same , of course , on a different level as you . But I feel the same with trying to find balance in traveling and doing a podcast tour and hosting and everything that I have going on while balancing a relationship and being home with my dogs . And I just can't even imagine the level of touring with six children and Laney and everything that like that balance seems to be impossible in that world , but it's I know they're so supportive and I know that you love doing both . It just must be so hard to be on the road while you have a family at home . It is . And you know , the goal . The goal for me is just to get them on a bus . You know , they home , they home school . And so , you know , but again , you know , it's just it's honestly , you know , not to get all . Spiritual or religious , but like . You know , it's funny , it's like before , before fancy , like I was very vocal about , you know ? I do this because it feeds the family in my job . It's not a vice , you know , it's just something I love to do , and then and then fancy like it's and it's like all of a sudden my job is my God , I'm like , Give me more of that , you know ? You know , and and I got to admit it . You know , it's fame and fortune and success . They have this lure where they they they don't . It's like the lottery , like it . It kills your time , it grabs you and it keeps you going . It doesn't satisfy . But boy , it gets you . It gets you on that treadmill where you're like one more speed , baby . Let's go . And then you start , line yourself . You're like one more and I'm good one more and I'm good . And then then five more later , you're still not good . And in the meantime , you maybe destroyed some things that really mattered to you . Yes . So I have to keep myself in check . I will say , yeah , it's it's again , it's just balance and not letting , not letting this become my god . But that's my tennis . I mean , you know , that's that's just human nature . I think it is human nature . I totally relate to that . And it's because it is , you know , when you're doing something you love sports , you want to be successful at it and you want to be recognized for it and acknowledge for all your hard work . So when you are finally getting that after years of grinding and you finally get that you're it's a pride thing too . You're proud of yourself , you're supporting your family , you're supporting yourself , you're doing what you love to do . And it is like a bit of a adrenaline rush or getting a little taste of that . You're like . Same thing . I do the same thing with saying yes to things . I'm like , Well , I'll just do this , and then I'll slow down next year . And I can say yes to this because like , how long is this going to last ? And then in the meantime , I'm like , Oh , I'm supposed to be planning a wedding and like focusing on my relationship right now , and that's taking a backseat because of all these opportunities . But that that's what you want and it's using . But also it's like you want to stay so grateful and humble and everything that you want to be that that doesn't usually come with success . You usually lose those things . 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I mean , they come to shows and I literally walk offstage and my daughter , 15 , I'll probably start crying when I say this , but she'll she'll just look me in the eye and so to say , I'm so proud of you . I love watching you , dad . You just do so good and you just look like you're having so much fun . And honestly , that's not because of anything Lainie and I did , and it's not because I'm a cool dad . It's just we are just lucky . You know , my my kids have had an adventurous life . They have seen they have gone from broke to to do it . OK , and then now they're seeing this . And I mean , they've just seen it all and they've seen in mom and dad fight , they've seen alcoholism , they've seen a recovery . They seem almost off the wagon . They've lost a sibling . Yeah . And I don't know . I'm just so grateful for the path , our testimony . There's a lot of things that we want to do again , right ? But right now , right now , we're just trying to soak up this rare moment that honest to God , not a lot of my , my peers in the industry get to taste , and they're way more talented than me . I mean , there's there's so much more gifted and and even even some of my heroes , you know , never had songs , do whatever in the world this is doing . And so I don't really know why , why this is happening . You know , I hope we do good things with it and I hope we stay grounded through it . I pray that . And but it's insanity . I mean , every single day I wake up , but I'm just like another day . Another , you know , deejay from Fuller House did the dance this morning , and I was like , That's it . I was like , You gotta be kidding me . Amy Adams did it the other day on Seth Meyers . Shaquille O'Neal does it out of , I mean , I'm like , What is going on right now ? I saw that was Shaquille , like walked in the background of that girl's video . Oh , yeah , that was so good . I mean , I'll tell you why it's happening . And of course , your heroes will be , you know , if you think they're more talented or whatever . But good things happen to good people and your family has been through a lot and you've it's shaped you and your family into who you are and it it makes you everything you've been through more appreciative and humble , and you guys are just having so much fun with it . And I love watching it all unfold and happen because I get to witness it on social media , but it's just so freaking cool . And to see everybody doing this video and I mean , I can I can relate to the D.J. Tanner thing that she was like did something when I was on Dancing With the Stars , she was on it too . And so she was like , Oh , my dance ? And I was like , D.J. Tanner , that's my dad . I know , but it's crazy who you can reach . And like you said , the impact that you can have and seen the world having fun to your song is like such an accomplishment . And that must be like a part of touring too is just seeing everybody in and the impact that you have on these people . That's why I , you know , I'm sitting here in my little room and talking , having such important conversations and cool conversations with people that I'm like , I forget people are even listening . And then when I go on tour for the podcast , people come up and say things where I'm like , Oh my gosh , like , it's such a reminder of why I do what I do . I know that you have that same feeling to you and that your family gets to experience it with you . Because I mean , six kids , that's that's so cool that they all get to experience such a life . And and it hasn't been easy , but it's rewarding . Yeah , you know , and you know , it could it could have gone the other way . You know , I mean that where , where , where it wasn't smart , you know , for dad to continue . And that's , you know , that's a personal decision we all have to make with our our dreams and and who who we gather like our kids or our wives or spouses that we bring along . And I don't know , it's just been a crazy adventure . And like I said , we we don't take it for granted . You know , that's one great , great thing about the past is that , you know , the fact that I'm talking to you on a bus because I'm out here playing a huge show tonight where ? Everyone will sing along and do the dance , and it'll be amazing , you know ? Yeah , I mean , it's crazy that , you know , it's crazy , you know , it's crazy that six years ago I was going to bed right now because got I had to get up at four to start produce and Brentwood , Costco , you know , and sell lettuce , the super rich people down there . So , you know , it's like , I love it so much . It's just so cool what can happen over over the years and to talk to somebody from then to now and be a part of all of that ? Yeah . And I mean , speaking of when you were working at Costco , wasn't it Jake Owen who called you and wanted to do something with one of your songs ? And now he is . What does he do because you have a new EP called Country Stuff ? Yeah , it was written and produced and obviously such a crazy time . But tell me what happened with Jake Owen in that ? Yeah , so so this is crazy six years ago . The reason Shane McAnally wanted to work with me and produce my own album is because he was trying to get my songs on other people's albums . So he was pitching songs to Jake as he would produce him and pitching songs to the Kacey Musgraves of the world and people like that . And he pitched the song to Jake . Jake loved it . He actually recorded it six years ago . Me and Lenny were about to buy the farm . We were like , This is that I want to be able to feed the kids , write songs . You know , that's the fallacy that a songwriter believes in , and you're just ready to go . Well , Jake , cut it . I heard the recording . It's a it's it's a bop , but it didn't make the record . And he actually called me . I actually talked to him in the Costco parking lot after work one day , and he was so apologetic , did not owe me that phone call that's happened to me many , many times . He was the only artist that's ever called to say , Look , dude , I'm sorry , I love this song . It just didn't fit the album . I'm dreadfully sorry . So we became buddies . And then when we put out this ep , we had a song on it called Country Stuff , and he was so delighted to take part . And as a matter of fact , when we sent him the song , he said , Is this for me to cut because I will cut it or is this for me to collab , collaborate with ? So he jumped on that song and I honestly couldn't speak more highly of Jake , and he has just been a true friend to me . That's really that's so important . I mean , there's , you know , in every industry there's , you know , peaks and valleys and ups and downs , and it's always so great to come across a genuine person who , you know , turns into a good friend in the work space , I think . Yeah . Well , and you you also collaborated with one of my best friends , your Nashville , Carly Pearce . Oh , yeah , holy cow . I mean , salt of the Earth . Same way , you know Carly . Lori McKenna and Jake also , I don't I don't even know why I want to say this , but I run into Ron Herd a lot on the road . Yeah , and he is literally like a super tall , warm hug . Like , I love seeing his face out here on the road because he's just normal . Like he's not he's not elevating him . Super talented . Oh my gosh . So talented . I love his voice . I know a super cool voice writes hits for days . Married to married . You know he has every reason to be a dick , but he's not . He is just he is so cool . But yeah , Carly was so kind with everything . She was going through new album all that stuff . She joined me on what we did and really stole the show . I'm like , Honestly , I was like , I mean , the song was okay , and then she came in and obliterated it , and I love her voice . Like to me , classic . Yes . That's a great way to describe it . Like it is . There's seasons in it , you know , like it's season and it just and when she sings , you know who it is . And then Lori McKenna joined me on a song that we wrote together called Briefcase . And honestly , I truly believe she's like an angel on Earth . I mean , she we we we met for the first time via Zoom . I was super nervous because I'm a I'm just a big hero . And she just calm me down . And we we wrote , we wrote from the heart , you know about my dad and he was dying at the time . And so it was an emotional day . But then she joined me and she sang . She sang some BS on there . But yeah , just what a year of collabs , which was crazy , you know , I think COVID . I don't know how , but it like encouraged that I feel like there's a lot of collabs happening right now , and that's probably because we just missed connecting with each other . Yeah , yeah , absolutely . Everybody has just missed connection and it just means so much more , which probably comes through in like writing and writing with other people and singing with other people . There's probably just a whole other level of like intention and passion behind it . And I just think that's so cool that people can still do this over Zoom , but you can still podcast talk to people . You can still write music , you can still connect with other people . Still , obviously not the same , but . And that must feel so different now to play in front of , you know , so many people now , I guess , talking to other musicians from Nashville , they've just all said the same thing . It's just so beautiful now to be in front of another human face , singing your songs and having been lost in the music . I just think that's incredible . And I want to know about the new song coming out called You Girl . Oh yeah . So this was this was crazy . I was just sitting there watching TV one night and this dude named Dylan Guthrie , an incredible producer and writer . He sends me this song that he and his sister , Jody are working on . And he's basically like , Do you want to help us finish it ? And it was called You Girl . Actually , I don't even know if I had a title then , but I listen to it and all my kids were like , What was that ? And it was on my phone . And so , yeah , we have . We finished it up . I put a vocal on it , sent it . So he was actually in Nova Scotia at the time . And yeah , so so we we just kind of finished it via email and he put my vocal in the track . And it's just a fun one coming out next week . And we have it . We have a dance to it . I was good . Yeah , but it's you . It's called you girl . And it's you , g . You are l like you girl . And you're , yeah , we're excited . It's just about , I don't know . I don't think it's like a it's it's it's not like the follow up to fancy like , but it's a fun song that we've been singing love . And we can't wait . Can't wait to get it out there is . Is there a reason you chose Applebee's ? Fancy like Applebee's ? Like why not Olive Garden Denny's ? Like everybody ? Yeah , that's pretty awesome . Damn , I thought it was being original . No , no , no . Well , nobody mentions Olive Garden , which I'm glad you did , because basically I picked the restaurant that we , Lainie and I went to the most in high school and it was Applebee's , and that was also an Olive Garden on Airport Boulevard . So we hit that up , especially when they had their unlimited possible and that would crust . But yeah , we I been going Applebee's since since Albany and I have since we were 17 . And you guys get free Applebee's for life now ? Pretty much . Yeah , I mean , I'm not going to yeah , I'm good . I'm not going to lie . We are basically that's Caitlin . That's what you're going to get for Christmas is Applebee's . Give an Applebee's gift card . If I got an Applebee's gift card for me , that would just be the best Christmas gift of all time . That's what everybody should get from you this year . I was about to say , trust me , a lot of people will . My parents are my mom and my sisters and stuff . So dude , Applebee's is their family now , and I'm so thrilled , thrilled that they jumped in and partnered with us . And I'm sure that's not even that's just the beginning with them . That's that they're great , great people . That's so awesome . I know since your TikTok famous , now I have a game for you and it's going to test your TikTok miss . Oh yeah . You may be viral with your song , but do you know the other trends and sounds we're about to find out ? I could be brown , I could be blue , I could be violet sky . I could be better than I can be , that I can be anything you like . I could be blue . I could be bad . OK , so I saw the first one I saw was Ryan Reynolds . Yes , Sam . And then Will Ferrell came in and was like , I gotta be who I gotta be . But yeah , that's so good . That was very funny . It's what even is . Is that a song ? I don't know . I actually don't know the trend . Like some people now are taking it as a background , like telling like a deep story and other people get funny . And I don't know . I think it's you can be brown or you can be purple , or you can be whatever you want on that particular trend . I love it . OK . Next one . I could be who I could be about , got it in my head , and I know . Girls , girls , girls , goody glitter . I don't know that one . What ? Oh my gosh . You and Leila have to do this one because it's like , Is it a dance ? Yeah , it goes . Girls , girls , girls glitter , glitter , glitter twirls , girls drills , and then you go together forever . Where Linda and Heather best friends . Oh my gosh , you guys have to do that one . I'm so shocked that we don't know that one . Yeah , I'm a . One that I've been cracking up lately , I hope it's not like the next one , you're going to play because it makes me laugh , but it's like a Halloween workout . Yes . And it's like I forgot to shake off the set of heroes and then is like Brad , that would grab them . Yeah . But you just wonder if he says something like Now drop , kick Satan , kick him in the crotch or something . It's so funny , and it's like these women with brooms , you know , in their house and their husbands are like , What is going on , man ? It is so funny . I do . I love that one that I remember that from last year . And then I saw it come back this year and I was like , OK , I want to do that one . Absolutely , OK , let's do one more . Nobody's going to know . Nobody's going to know they're going to get in there . I've heard that one where they just keep saying they're going to know . They're going to know , are they going to know ? They're going to know ? Yes , they are . OK . That was the game , man . Especially that like that one . Those are my favorites where I just was like , Well , I wish I knew the origin . Like , where did this sound come from ? A lot of those you went with some of my favorites or when the kid whispers and he's like , You know what ? You know , and and I'm just like , Where did they get this baby to say all these funny things ? And they were just , you know , say , the darndest things . And then they kept , yeah . And then they go viral , you know , I'm familiar with that . OK ? And last but not least , you have to give me a confession because you're one last time was pretty good . What was , I think I told you the sharding in my pant story yesterday . And then and you also got caught by Lenny's parents . Oh gosh , man , you must have gotten me comfy on that . That's what I try . You got me hypnotized to tell you the confessions at the end because I butter you up the whole time and then I'm like , Oh , there were there . So I mean , honestly , when they said , Hey , we have to fashion , the first thing I thought about was this thing in high school and I got actually have so many confessions . One is I love Riverdale . I'm a huge Riverdale fan , and I just felt like country male artists aren't supposed to love Riverdale , but I don't care . But there was another one that I thought of and I was like , I don't think my parents or my mom knows this . But when I was in eighth grade , we were on a chorus trip and the chorus teacher busted us in the room because we were we were drinking Jack Daniels , like in the hotel room and we were idiots . He opened the door and it just reeked of Jack Daniels . And so they closed the door . They went and called on our parents , and in the meantime , as three of us in the hotel . And it was me , Paul Hendricks , and I forget the third guy . But me and Paul , we had already been suspended . And so . So if I get suspended again , I get expelled . And I was like , Oh my gosh . And so we both just begged and pleaded this other dude . We were like , Please take the blame . Just please . When they come in , it's all they don't remember . Shame on you . I know . I know . And so anyway , we paid him a hundred bucks . And look , this is back when like you're in high school , 100 bucks is like , you don't have $100 bills . Yeah . And we he took the money and we paid him a hundred bucks . And then Paul and I think we got like a whole bunch of Saturday detentions . But it wasn't , you know , it wasn't a suspension . So I got to stay in school . And so , yeah , so that guy and I don't know if my mom knows this , but yeah , because I lied , I was like , Yeah , didn't have anything to do with it . And oh , know . So yeah , mom would listen to this podcast . I mean , I hope not now , because you know where we've mended everything you know ? And if she finds out ? No , I mean , she she will listen to this . I don't think she will really be surprised . And you know , honestly , I bet you 100 bucks . I bet you 100 bucks . She'll look at me and she'll go , I know you were lying . You know , mothers know they all they do . And I feel like that . That's well . If she didn't , then do I owe you a hundred bucks ? Maybe so I'll ask . Well , I'll ask her and I'll see , I'll see what she says , but yeah , you know , I'm an open book . Confessions are hard for me . I feel like I'm still at it all . Like you said , that's crazy . I told you that story . I don't . I don't usually tell that story a lot . No , it's so good . People loved it . I love when people go . There was confessions . And so speaking of like bets making bets . Yeah , I actually made a bet with Jimmy Kimmel . He said he was going to pay me a thousand dollars if I got married to Shawn Booth . And I was like , and I would double or nothing , and he was like , OK . So I actually owe him $2000 , I think . Wow . There you go . Are you going to pay him ? I probably should . You should send him two grand and wine , and this idea was really , really good idea . I'll look into that . It's so funny . Well , I'm just so excited . Where are you right now on in your tour ? We're in Charleston and we're planning an outdoor show tonight to be several thousand people here and just . And then I'm headed to my nephew's getting married in Fairhope area , so I get a little kind of a weekend off . We're going to do the fancy like it is a reception and stuff . I mean , so many people are doing fancy like at their weddings . I know it's it's it's like the new the office thing that everybody was doing there . But look , it's it's amazing . I can't believe it . And I always love just talking to you . You're really great at this . And no wonder you . No wonder you have a job doing this year . Pleasant to speak with . Thank you for saying that because I really just enjoy having in the moment conversations with people . I feel like we don't do it enough , and podcasting is just like turned into such passion because I genuinely enjoy talking to good people . So thank you for coming back on . And now I'm like , What the hell are we going to talk about another two years ? What's going to happen ? I don't know . We'll probably , I don't know . It's is probably it . You know , I know I talked to you about on about Craig a little bit last . It is . It is hands down like , look , fancy like and all this stuff is cool . And the new music is awesome . But I just we're in like the the last couple rounds of edits of this 10 chapter book , and a lot of each chapter is something like it's Church of our dog . A Wednesday baby . A friend . And man , I was just going through it last night . We turned it in for a round of edits and I was just bawling at just what it it basically it goes through the years I've known you . It's just from the moment I met Greg . So what's going on now ? We were . We're actually neighbors now . Craig and I . And for those people who don't know , Greg gave us a car when we only had one car and just sacrificially love my family and I , him and his wife , Laura and his kids . And anyway , we're neighbors now and we're writing a book about my testimony , and he shares that gospel in it , and it's called Glad you're here and it comes out early next summer and our spring and I am so jacked . It's so hard to write a book . You've written a book , right ? No , but Jason has , and I know so many people that have , and it's no joke . Like if you're writing it together , like it's an everyday , all day kind of thing that you have , it's crazy heart and soul into . It's crazy and you forget you forget , like have already said this and the third chapter because you're a week later and it's just it's tedious . But as I read it last night and as it as I'm becoming more familiar with everything we poured into it . Yeah , man , it just brings me to tears , and I just really hope that people will be impacted about impacted from it . And it's a it's a it's a it's something I'm very passionate about . No , I'm so excited to come out early next spring . I think I'm going to say May , but , you know , give or take a month or two because I have a way of slowing things down . I'm very slow , slow rider . And but , you know , it'll come out in God's time . And but gosh , I I mean , look , I love what I do , but there's just something magical about that , and I feel like all this other stuff is leading to that in some way . You know , you ever do a ton of things in your life . But I feel like it's it's aiming for that . And so , yeah , I just I just can't wait to share that and I really hope to see you , maybe me and Craig kind of going to places and talking about it , you know , and I could see just , yeah , it's just I'm I'm jacked about it . So anyway , Craig have such a history and you've written a song about him and he essentially like , changed a big . Part of your life , and so for you to to write a book together with what he's done for you and your writing and everything that could come together through that and again impact so many people , I'm really excited for the book . And where where will people be able to buy it like everywhere that you can buy books ? Oh , everywhere . Yeah , yeah , it's where we're moody publishing and they've had a huge book . So it was a love language book like , that's there . Yeah , because , yeah , so but they have been so pleasant to work with and actually , this is cool . The band Mercy Me and I are recreating the song Craig . OK , yeah . So we're going to give the fans like a brand new version of that prior to the book . And I don't know . It's just , you know , how you do things and you're like , Oh , this is fun , and I like this . I love that you dance and I love you laughing . But you know , this is this is the real message I would love to communicate and share . So super jacked about that . And then we also have a new song . It's called A and it will come out in November . I've got to tell you so . My dad has not missed an AA meeting in 30 years , and he has become a mentor to so many people . It's a beautiful human being . I'm just he's just a saint of a human . And I told him about your song The Last Beer in the fridge . But yeah , what's that song called in the fridge here in the fridge ? Yeah , he loves it now . And I was talking to and I was telling him about you , and he just he's actually was a big fan of yours without even knowing that that was you . And I was like , Yeah , yeah , he's he's just such a big fan . So well , AAA is very important to me . I don't go every night , but actually the night , the day we buried openly , I had a real moment where I was like ready to just go fight somebody and just get plastered . I was two years sober . Yeah , and and I drove to this bar and my wallet wasn't in my car , so I went home to get it . And when I came home , I just I just fell apart and I told Lenny what I was going to do . And she found me an AA meeting . So that's an example . AA has saved my life many times . It's just a place to go and admit I'm an idiot and it's a special place to me . But yeah , this this song is is it's an anthem . It's a fun song . Believe it or not , a good but . But it's I think your dad like this . I'm excited . I said , Well , I'm just so excited for you . Everything you have going on you deserve and I love watching you and your family . It's really precious and inspirational , and I'm just I'm really proud of you . Thank you . I appreciate it . And I am back . Yes , I need a I need a Caitlyn beanie . Yeah . So whenever , whenever you whenever you make the toboggans or the Turks or whatever you call , hey , I have a bucket hat out right now . If you'd like one of those now , I love that . I love that . Let's get the bug . But it is always , always a pleasure . Thanks for having me . I can't . Yeah , it'll be fun . Who knows what we'll talk about next ? I'm excited to find out and tell everyone where they can find you on Tik Tok and all those . Oh yeah , I think I don't . I don't even remember if my handle is like Walker Hayes official . I think it might be was just looking away . Yeah , is it ? And then and then Instagram . It's just Walker Hayes . I feel like Walker Hayes official is that it is the one with the blue check , not the exact blue check . Yeah , it's just Walker hate , notes Walker . He's official . You're right . Got it . Yeah , so Walker has official and then , yeah , come out , come out , come by and visit me . I respond to all my is the stuff like that's that's really me . So , yeah , bring it on right on . Well , good for you and have fun at your show tonight . And maybe when you're back in Nashville , we can do a TikTok . Let's go . We got to do one . I , we're getting better . You figured it out . I love . I love y'all . Thank you so much for coming on to talk to you soon . I'm your host , Kaitlyn Bristowe . I'll see you next Tuesday . Thanks for listening to off the line with Caitlyn Bristowe . Get new episodes every Tuesday exclusively on podcasts , one dotcom , the podcast , one app and subscribe on Apple Podcasts .
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