Westworld | Season 3, Episode 4 Recap: "The Mother of Exiles"

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Maybe I'm just, like weird. Maybe I'm crunchy. This is the southern tea with Lindsie Chrisley. I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them. A southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying true to her roots. I am a functioning, non-functioning human being right now. Join Lindsay each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea and nothing but the tea is the tea. Here's Lindsey. Good morning, and welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea. I am excited because I can see Caroline today. Hello. Yay. I'm so happy to be back and like, finally, have a working computer again and I'm back to civilization. Do you know how hard it is to live a life with no computer? Oh my gosh. Well, I told you when I had that computer malfunction the other week, it was literally so bad. I knew, like immediately the next morning that I had no choices, like I was waking up and going to Apple. And it was either it was going to be an immediate fix or an immediate purchase. I don't know what kind of bad omens the southern tea people have right now, but it's like if there could be any technical difficulties to either one of us, we're just both going to get them and like within two weeks, why is that happening to us? I have no idea. I do not know. Let me tell you today I have done first day of school, gone to pick up Georgia because we were in Nashville all weekend, so I went to the babysitter to pick her up. Came home and I s**t. You and I have been sitting at my computer all day like I all day. I believe you. And you're like, Lindsey, I believe you based on what you look like, right? I'm like, Nobody can see that your hair is on top of your head like a mop. But I do believe you. I really do. No. But was it so nice to have your house back to yourself without Jackson being all up everything or what? Oh gosh. Well, he very kindly reminded me yesterday when I was like, I'm going to be so glad. Whenever you're at school, you'll have your schedule. I'll have my schedule. And he's like, Yeah, but mom, you say that you're more productive when I'm with you. And I'm thinking to myself, Yeah, I'm more productive because I'm not worried about you when you are in my possession. Like, when you're with dad, no one knows what's going on. You might not be able to be reached like it could be an emergency. I wouldn't know about it. But when you're at my house and I know that I'm the one that's in charge, then I'm not worried. But like, no, you being at home wreaking havoc through this house is not easier for me. At this point, though, are we saying that we trust the teachers more than you trust them more than you trust? Will that what's happening? Yeah, that's what's happening. But I think that's most moms with dads, right? It's like, who knows what's actually happening? Yeah, yeah. No, I can. I could. So see that you're like, We have no idea. And from just past events, you've broken trust and at least the teacher, he's got a brand new fresh start, this brand new teacher and hasn't broken any trust yet. No way. So I Calwell and I'm like, you know, two forty five passes haven't heard anything and I'm like, OK, because today or like this weekend, today, about four first day of school, I drop off or we dropped off together and then I'm like, Will's picking up because it's his day and have heard nothing. And I'm like, OK, well, you know, I would at least expect attacks to be like, like, I secured the goods like, you know, I don't worry, don't worry, I got him. It was his first day of third grade. He's good. OK, no, I didn't get that text. So then I call and he's like, What do you want? And I'm like, What are you doing? And like, how was this first day? Like, Why didn't I hear about it? And he's like, Because I'm still sitting in this freaking carpool line. He said that it was literally like over an hour so bad. And I'm like, OK, who came up with carpool lines, first of all, who decided that they function the way that they function and also like, why are they so wrong? OK, let me tell you this. I forgot about this. I forget about it every year. But the first week of school, the carpool line is always the longest. And then it's so long that so many people are like, I'm not doing this and I'm going to actually send my kid on a bus. And that's what happened. I mean, I always tell my kindergarten parents, I'm like, Are you sure you want to do carpool because it's going to be really, really long? And they're like, Oh yeah, it's fine. And then by like day three of waiting an hour to pick up their kid, they're like, Yeah, they're going to ride the bus because they can be home in 15 minutes. So I will just say, make it through this week. It will get better. It will work itself out. And you guys won't be waiting an hour long. But could you? And there are probably some people out here that are southern listeners. And maybe if you are, please tell us why you do this because I do not understand. But there are some parents that come to the carpool line at school, and at 2:15, they will be outside of that school at like 12:30 one o'clock every single day, sitting in their car, waiting to pick their kid up and an hour and a half or two hours. And I'm like, I'm like, What the f**k are you doing? Do you not have something better to do with that hour or hour and a half than to just sit there waiting on your kid? I don't understand it. Oh, I'll start blazing by the school and see that sometimes. And I'm like, immediately, should I get in line because I'm going to be like the last person there? It causes you to be terrified. But I'm like, Yeah, like, I've got to go to the gym and I got other stuff that I need to do during these two hours that they're not freaking coming out. If I was a mom, I would skirt through that line. Like, I'd be like, OK, like they get out of school at 2:15, but carpools, usually over around like two forty five like I would skirt through that line at two forty to wait three minutes. Get on, be like one of the last moms to pick up my kid and then scurry on out of there because I've got way better things to do with my time. Listen, you're going to be chastised if you do that, because if you have a child like Jackson, he'll be like, You're late today, and it's literally you're in a second row of cars. You are late. I was about to say, Lindsay, don't even act like you do that because I have worked the carpool line while you drive through and you are like a middle of the line person. You're not right in the beginning, but you're also not at the end either. OK, well, that would be the best place to be. It's like you're not late, but you're not early. Like, you're just like finally showed up right on time, to be honest. And then Jackson, Selena, you saying that your late Will's like the last car that pulls through when you're like, Is this a person? It's like dropping off packages, or is this like an actual dad? They're like, Hey, they're like calling you like, Hey, Miss Grizzly, Jackson's just sitting here up in the lobby and like Will's just like skirting through the line, that's literally my biggest fear of all times. Honestly, like I can't, I can't my kid getting PTSD because I either forgot to go to carpool or I was late. Remember that one time that I was like, going to be late, or I thought I was going to be late and I was like, Caroline, like, you have to get Jackson like from carpool right now and like, take him to your classroom. Yeah. And honestly, probably freaked him out a little bit more because he was like sitting down there in the carpool lobby and I was like, Jackson, come here and you're coming with me, and he's like, Wait, why am I coming with you? Wait, where's my mom? What's happening? And like a million questions, or when I was doing one of the kids that was left? Yeah. And that's why I was to like all the time my mom would roll up like 15 minutes after something was ending and I would just be like waiting there. It was so embarrassing. Yeah, it's like, Hey, did you not think of me in advance? Like, obviously, Ozzy, I was an afterthought. Like, thanks a lot for nothing. The worst part is that my mom was a stay at home mom, and I'm like, This is your literal job is to pick me up from school. And you are late to it. You have no other job here. Oh my God, we love that. Shout out to Caroline's mom for really just like doing the job all her way. So I had to tell you last week, literally, it was so bad. Like, do you ever have one of those weeks that you literally cannot catch a break? It's like one thing happened, and it's like a snowball effect. And like, another thing happens if Kristen wasn't in producer mode. She'd be hopping on here and be like, Lindsay, your life was a dumpster fire last week. Like, so bad. So really? But tell me, Oh, wait, hang on a sec, Kristen popping all in here. Yeah, I. Persons that layer a full on disaster like it was so bad, Christians cackling and she's like, dumpster fire doesn't even begin to describe it. I don't know. Like, everything went bad last week that could go bad or like if there is a problem that could possibly happen, it happened. So we really love that whole thing for me and also just trying to prepare for school to start like we had open house. And then, you know, like I had to prepare all the things because I was going out of town on Friday and knew I was going to be back until Sunday afternoon and then got in so much traffic heading back from Nashville, it was just such a s**t show. So my week literally ran into the next week and I hate when that happens. Christine had one of these weeks, like two weeks ago, and it's like you don't really get or feel like you have a full weekend because so much of your week, like ran into your weekend. Yeah. And then I was just like, bummed out because I didn't get to watch church on Sunday morning, which is nothing but my own fault. But I have become so accustomed to doing that. So like, if I'm not at church, I'm always, like, very diligent about making sure that I watch it every Sunday before, like I do anything and just felt like so unfulfilled. And I'm constantly feeling like that if I ever miss church. And so I just wanted to know, like if anybody else ever feels like that because it it's caused me to like, kind of like start my, my my my day was OK. I was productive, but like, it just goes back to like Sundays are. I've stopped saying, like people would be like, Hey, what are you doing? And I'm like, nothing. I've started to say, like, I'm resting today. And I think that like when I heard it like that, I'm so like intentional, like I'm actually resting. And then it doesn't make me feel bad that I don't do something on Sunday because I feel like Sunday. Sometimes the more chaotic they are, the more chaotic my week is. And so I feel like whenever you're going to church on Sunday mornings, you go and it's just like sets the tone for your whole week and your day of rest and starting your week off on the right foot. And so whenever you don't do that and then obviously, like everything was pushed back and you were stuck in traffic, it just as a chaotic start to your whole week. Yeah, no. Like literally just felt like chaos. And just like a mass run around and sometimes in life, it just feels like that. It's like you have things that you want to do, but you know it's going to make your life more chaotic, but you still choose to do them because you don't want to like not do them. And you're like, OK, I'm going to like, slightly suffer for this later on. But like, I'm still going to choose to do this. Let me tell you, I felt this way last week. So last and and I would love to hear like if anyone else feels the same way. But last Monday was my birthday and I started to the past like two years. I've started to not really enjoy my birthday because it's always right around the same time that school is starting. It's the busiest time of the year for me, and everybody else put so much pressure on me to have a good day. It's like, what do you can do for your special day? And Oh, I want to see you and I want to do all these things. And it's so nice of everybody and I feel bad, and I'm trying to make time for all of the people that want to do sweet things for me on my birthday. But like, really, I just wanted to my whole birthday. I want to just hunker down. I had a to do list of like fifty eight things and I wanted to just put my head down and only do them. And I feel like my birthday celebrations last week put me behind and honestly stress me out even more. And so I feel like I couldn't even enjoy my birthday because of all of the pressure that was put on me last week because of it. Yeah, and then you feel like you have to play catch up. So you're like, OK, at this point, I would have rather not done that, just got done what I needed to get done. And then like maybe another time in 12 years from now when I'm ninety five would be like more appropriate. Right? Well, I'm trying to get better, like saying no to things, but I'm not good at that yet. So if anybody has any tips, please let me know. So tomorrow morning, I plan on going back and watching church live. It won't be live now, but it will be like I say YouTube, but I plan to go back and watch it because I'm like, my whole week is just going to be like wayward. And I kind of feel nosey about it. I'm like, What was happening in church that like, I wasn't involved. You have FOMO of church. Yeah, like, hey, if I was going to have FOMO of anything, that's the right place for it to be true. They're like way worse things to have FOMO about. I have no love for the first person that I've ever heard that has had FOMO of church, though, so I'm kind of proud of you right now. I love it. I have no lessons to like, tell you guys that I learned in church because I didn't learn anything this week and I just like, feel really bad about myself. But I will tell you another thing that Kyle and I found out about last week is really, really exciting. So you got. Guys all know that we were up for People's Choice Awards for both of the podcast and then in various other categories, but then we were notified that we are nominated for an American Influencer Award for Podcasts of the Year. And right now, I'm so excited about it. I talked about it on coffee convos a little bit about, just like I feel like we are OGS of podcasters and like, maybe. Yeah, there was like podcast before us, but I just kind of feel like we're like, you know, like you feel like you invented it, even though you didn't, but it's like you made work. We made that happen. So, you know, I feel like it's been a long time coming and I just feel so dedicated to both of these audiences that when I found out about it, I was like, Wow, this is like the best thing ever. But then also, like anxious about it, because then when you're nominated for something, you're like, OK. Like the anxiety setting in. So I've made it this far now I need to like really secure the bag, right? Otherwise, just like the first loser, right? Second place. OK, well, Caroline's are really like that. That gives me worse anxiety for you to do that. I'm sorry. I'm trying to get out of this like negative headspace. And sometimes I do things like that and I'm like, You're the first loser if you're in second place. But no, I mean, it's such an honor to be even nominated and think of all of the podcasts that are out there to even be like in the running for something that big is such a big deal. And, you know, as somebody that sees now all of the back where, you know, I always listen to podcasts before and you just think you just show up and talk and that's not it. There's so much preparation and so much work and planning that goes into it. And so I know it feels good to have all of your hard work really rewarded. Sometimes when I record three episodes a week, depending on if like coffee combos is dropping a bonus on those weeks, I literally feel like all I do is record and research. And so there is more to the madness outside of just like pop in on a mic, even though it probably feels like we're just popping on a mic and very dysfunctional because, I mean, that's just like the name of the game and who we are. But voting is open and you guys can go to the Instagram Page Coffee Compass podcast or the Facebook fan page. Coffee Combos also has a Facebook page, and we will be posting more info for you guys to be able to vote. And I just want to encourage you if you are a listener of my shows and you might not listen to Converse, but you listen to southern tea. It is a free way to be able to support what I do, and I'm just like so thankful for you guys taking the small amount of time that it takes to be able to vote. So just wanted to say that, and I went on a Tik Tok rabbit hole. I went down. I said, I went on, went down a tick tock rabbit hole and just like found so many good TikToks talks that I was like, Everybody is going to be subjected to this today. Oh no way. But before I get into that, can you tell me, like, what's been going on in your life and like anything good? Yeah. So life has honestly been so it's a s**t show for me too. It's crazy. It's it's like my life was so slow and now it's so fast and I truly have had. I'm kind of enjoying the busyness, but I wish that there was just like a a happy medium. And my step mom told me that she's like, Caroline, there is. It's OK to be bored and your job. I feel like my job is just like really high stress and then like really low stress over the summer. And I'm just not really high stress right now. I've officially started. For anyone that follows me on Instagram, I did move schools and I was teaching kindergarten. I was supposed to teach first grade. They did a switcheroo on me and they called me and said, We actually lost your first grade allotment and you're going to be teaching third grade now. And I'm really nervous about the third graders that they're going to bully me and be so mean to me. But I did that, and then I started coaching at the same school that my granddad coached at for forty two years. And that has just been so rewarding to work so hard in the same community that my granddad worked in. And so I really have just put everything that I have into that, and I've just been so busy on top of also all of the birthday celebrations that I had last week. So anyway, his life has been a little bit crazy, but just full of work over here and not a lot of downtime. I know I feel like Caroline and I went from having like a couple of champagne nights a week to like we literally have not seen each other. It feels like an forever thing, like two weeks. We went to like. A couple of week two, like now, a couple of months, yeah, now we're we're just like, not, not really. These guys only catch up times are through the southern tea. I'm like, Hey, girl, hey, nice to see you just missing champagne. That's the only thing we're missing right now. Gosh, I know suburban dad was like, Are you guys going to drink champagne while you're recording our mimosas? And I was like, No, no alcohol for me today. Like, I literally am running on fumes a bit on this dang computer all day long and no champagne. Like, that's not the nightcap. Truly, that's what you need. Honestly, after a day like today, I'm like, I feel like I just want a glass of wine at the end of the day, and I do. I like to read like energized at night with a glass of wine. Wait, I don't know this about you. Are you an every night glass of wine girl? Not every night, but a couple of nights a week. Yeah, OK. I would love to know people who are listening if you're like an every nighter or a couple of nights a week or not at all, or you know. Absolutely not. I don't go to sleep where you just go to bed. Yeah, I'm just like, I just hang it up. I watch Virgin River and go to bed. Quite literally, that's this way. OK, so I saw this one tick tock and it was 50 Cent and it was talking about like it being OK not to care about people who don't care about you. And I just want to get everyone's take on this. OK, I see the person's clustering and look at you little like I don't give a f**k. Yeah, I genuinely don't give a f**k about those things about me because they don't care about me. Is it OK for me not to care about people that don't care about me? Something you need to go a street to say why I'm with the person. It would be entertaining for them to see me in crisis. Why would you care about a person who would like to see you under the worst of this? You can do? OK. This is how I feel about this. I have a couple of feelings, but go ahead. OK, yeah, I want to live like that. I really do. I strive to when I give people advice, I'm like, You should not care what people think about you. But I have not that way. And you're dishing it out. But you know, like, you're invited. Yeah, I'm like, I know that that's the best way to live. And it's weird because I did literally. Last night I started taking this attach. I was on Tik Tok and it was like talking about this attachment styles. I'm like, Can you stop interrupting me with your Tik Tok? I'm kidding. No. So it was talking about attachment styles, and I have an anxious attachment style. And there's four different attachment styles that you can have, and it's totally determined whenever you are an infant. And so it talked about like if you had like an inconsistent parent, you would be an anxious attachment style person. And I think, Oh, wow, is my mom being inconsistent? Sometimes she was great. Sometimes she wasn't. It made me super anxious. And whenever, like any relationship, whether it's like a boyfriend, a friendship coworker, whenever those I'm naturally a people pleaser because I just I'm trying to do anything to keep that relationship alive. And then whenever the relationship starts going downhill, I start getting super anxious about it. And then it's that's whenever the like desperation is like, I'll try to do anything and whatever to fix it. And that's it's called an anxious attachment style. So I want to be that way. However, I'm not that way, and it apparently is my mom's fault from me and my infancy. OK, so I think I'm also an anxious type person, but at the same time, I don't give a f**k her. Yeah. You know, I think this is what I think about you. I think that you don't care about people who you don't like, who aren't in your everyday life, right? That you don't necessarily care about. You're like, I don't really care what you think about me. I don't care what what. I'm saying that wrong. I don't care what you think about me, and I also don't care about you, basically. But I think that the people that you do care about, that's the people that you get anxious about, the people that are in your life. Oh, 100 percent. Like, I don't want anybody to be mad at me, like I don't want to, like, have strife in a relationship. I want to try to like, repair whatever it is. I'm definitely like, let's get to the bottom of the issues so that we can move on from this. Those are like the people in my life, but generally people who just like, have an opinion about me because they think they know something. I literally just do not care. And you don't care and I do care. Why am I that way? Why do I try to people please strangers? Like, Why do I do that? I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'll be literally. I told you when I'm at the nail salon, right? And they go on and they've just like, messed up all my nails. And it's absolutely nothing that I want, and I'll just sit there and I'm like, It's fine. Yeah, that's exactly what I want it like. I because I'm just trying to please them like, no, I'm I'm fifty dollars for these nails that you're just messing up and I'm sitting through it. Oh my gosh, you say that and I'm sitting here thinking about our experience and also on the last time, and I'm like, No, like this whole thing looks jank and like, it's going to be peeled off in a day. And so like, we need to fix it immediately. And I don't care what you think because you didn't care what you thought when you were plastering this s**t on there. That looks like totally Lindsay. You were like, Oh no, these are not going to work. These are just going to last like two days. And I'm like, Oh my god, Lindsay, it's okay. And like mine, she made, um, like, forty five inches too long. And I'm like, Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted. And just like sitting through the pain for like a month after, I might not even able to type on a computer because my nails are so long, I wish that I was that way. No, I literally looked at Caroline's nails, and I was like, I think those are a bit long. And she's like, Yeah, I mean, they are like, What's your point? They for sure are like, Stop calling me out. But then also part of that Tik Tok he was talking about, like people preying on you and crisis like, I feel like the media does that a lot. You know, it's like, Mhm. You know, they they get kind of like, super happy when things are going bad because it's just like more clicks. Well, I would even say humans are naturally that way, right? I mean, it's gossip. That's exactly what gossip is. Even if you're not making any money off of it, it's like somebody's life is falling, spiraling out of control and people are just talking about it. And that's kind of sad if you think about it. Oh no, it's really sad. Wait, so I need to ask you some questions and get some insight on this. OK, you said you're freaking me out. Does that give you anxiety when somebody says, Hey, I have to ask you a question, I'm like immediate anxiety. And not only that, but this is also recorded sound like anxiety times 10 way. It's just like the text that you get from like your significant other, it's like, Hey, we need to talk later and it's like, OK, can you tell me what we need to talk about? Because I need to know what's in the text like that? Or if your boss the worse is your boss, it's worse than a relationship. Say, Hey, we need to set up a meeting, and I'm like, What is this tweeting about? I can't breathe like all day long, and then it's like literally the most nonchalant meeting in the world like that. The ones that I get from my parents are literally like that. Give me the most anxiety. It's like they call me like, it. Will they call me? And I'm like, No, you freaking call me? Like, Why are you telling me to call you? You are stressing me out for telling me to call you. Don't even send me a text about it. Just call me. Yeah. And like, is it an emergency immediately? Like, you need to tell me, Are we calling 9-1-1? Someone dying? Like, What's going on? Because I need to know immediately, because if I'm in the middle of something else, I'm only going to be thinking about that. Call me text thinking it's an emergency. I literally can't focus on anything else. And then it never is like a true emergency. It's like, Hey, we wanted to see if you were available to come eat pizza with us on Friday. I'm like, Are you kidding? Or it's like, Hey, I tried the macaroni and cheese from Chick-Fil-A. And it was like, Really good. Thanks for the info here. Like that actually pisses me off that you just ruined my day. I'm now. My nervous system is shot for the rest of the day all to tell me some stupid. Like, you literally just pissed me off. Makes me so mad that way. OK, so these are the things that like, I just need to like, get your insight on because I just don't know about them. I have been getting tons of questions. When I do, those Q&A is or whatever. Yeah. People asking like about suburban dad and I if we're going to move in together, if we're going to get married, if we plan on having kids and it's like a lie. But I wanted to know when your dad started dating your step mom, like, what did that process look like? Because you're a middle school girl, right? I was in middle school going into ninth grade. But before we dive into this? Yeah, I just want to pause. And just let's just touch on the fact that you are trying to not bring up the fact that you did a hard launch this weekend. It was a full on hard launch, full on face on your Instagram story of suburban dad. I know there was no name, but that is considered a hard launch. It is like, I feel like it's not. I feel like it's medium. OK, we could say Medium, you're right on that. It's like it's an Instagram Story, like it's past soft launch. At this point, we can agree on it's passed out, but like, I'm definitely not caught up to kill like an hour, you know, race that we lost. There are now still images of suburban dads face, and they are plastered on the southern teen Facebook fan page. Also, coffee convos Facebook fan page and like. The most entertaining thing ever is like reading the comments. Oh my god, I love it. No, I was like, So here for it, I'm like, Lindsey says, casually dropping a bomb and acting like she's not. It's OK if you want to just not touch on it, but I'm not going to let you just go through this whole podcast and pretend like it didn't happen. We are here for it. I was just straight up riding in his truck home, listening to music, having conversation, post and stuff, and he was like, You look like you are over there doing something. And I'm like, Were you like giggling like a little evil person? I was like trying to find the music that like, I want in for it, and I needed it to be like the right part of the song. And so, you know, I was just being like, so Instagram official and just like professional and stuff. Yeah. And yeah, like it was a precious video. So it was it was definitely post worthy. I'm glad you posted it, and I'm glad you caught it on camera, too. Same. So tell me, tell me about this adjustment. OK, so to be honest, my my dad and step mom was an interesting story because my stepmom was actually my cheerleading coach before she was my step mom, so I knew her in a different role before she was my step mom. OK. And it's it kind of happened, and my dad was like, Listen, the way he told us, he was like, Cam's going to go skiing with us. And I was like, Why? Like, why is she going to go skiing with us? And I was, I guess, I was a freshman in high school, so I was 14, and he was like, Well, we're kind of dating, and I'm like, Why? And he's like, Yeah. So that was in February. And the thing that upset me the most, actually, you know, I it was weird because I lived with my dad and most people. I feel like at the time, I feel like it's very different now. I feel like coach. Parenting in 50 50 custody is a lot more common than it was whenever I was growing up. And when I was growing up, the majority of people, if your parents were divorced, you spent the majority of your time with your mom. And so my dad had full custody of me. And so I was very protective of my dad in a weird way. And so we were, you know, it was just the kids and my dad and for so long and my mom did things to hurt us. And so we got super close. And so I oddly got it. And it sounds weird to say it out loud, but I was almost jealous of the time that my dad was spending with my stepmom. And I mean, like, we you mean you're like going to the movies with her on like a Friday night, like, what are we supposed to do? And so I felt a little bit jealous, but I didn't know I was 14. I didn't really know how to verbalize that. And then you know that I was fine. The thing that bothered me the most is whenever, because my parents growing up, like, never showed any sign of affection. Like, I can remember my parents, like when I would see them like Peck, like a kiss. I was disgusted by it, like it was so great, cause I was like, I'm like throwing up, Oh my god. And my they would like, snuggle on the couch. My step mom, my dad and I was like, You like, you guys are gross. I was very uneasy about it. So that bothered me. And then also, I felt at the time that they had really rushed into marriage because they had only dated for, like, I guess, six months before they got married. And I was like, You guys are rushing into it. You only been dating for six months. So my dad's like Caroline. I'm like, forty five. Like, I've been married. I know what I want in a way. If she's been married, she knows that she wants. We are grown people and we we are OK. I promise we're not like twenty one, just like rushing into this marriage. And so, you know, there were times that I was upset about things, and it was definitely an adjustment of just having a stepmom there. And she did a good job of not pushing the mother role and just welcoming what we welcomed her into and not forcing herself into anything that we were uncomfortable with. And now, at this point, she's way more of a mother to me than my real mom ever was. And so I at the time, I was very selfish and I would be like, it was all about me. But now that I'm older, I think about how hard that is to be and a step parent role. And like, where do you fit in and how do you blend your families? I do think that and now that I'm older, I'm very happy that we're all out of the house and my dad is just like, they are so in love, they're so happy. My dad is so much happier than he ever was before, and now I'm so happy that I, as a bratty teenager, didn't allow that to for him to be unhappy and alone. Now, living by himself, I love that so much now. I feel like that's so true when you said that, you know, she kind of just like, leaned in to you guys and allowed you to lead and not force herself because I think that can be very overwhelming for kids. You know, they've already been through change and then they've settled into like a norm. So it's like, you know, you and your sister and brother with your dad and then now she's coming on the scene. I think that that can be very hard and confusing and to allow the children not to control the situation, but to allow them to kind of guide you and let you know what they're comfortable with. I think that's so important. Yeah, and you've got to think, too, it's going to be probably a different level of comfort for every single kid. Right? And one how old they are and what they're comfortable with, like it's going to be. Each kid will probably be at a different pace. And so that's hard to because like, you're this one big family, but then you're also in these different stages with your step kids, and that's probably really hard as a step parent. Well, like every relationship is different, right? So like, what one relationship looks like doesn't mean that the other relationship looks that same way, and what you connect with with one person doesn't mean you're going to connect with another the same way. But yeah, I get so many questions about that. And just like what that transition looked like, I was so young when my dad and Julie got married that I don't even recall it being a transition because I don't remember my parents ever being together. So I can't really speak on it because I was seven, six or seven years old. I do. I feel like the younger it is, probably the easier it is to go into that more motherhood role because they rely on, you know, for you, for everything at that age. So I think that's a lot easier. I have met suburban dads, kids and they're so precious. And he spent time. With Jackson and I as well, and it's just interesting to see how everyone is so different and just how like personalities are and differences and similarities, and then sometimes feeling like I'm just trying to enjoy the phase that I'm at. And I don't know if you have ever felt like this in a relationship or not, but sometimes feeling like pressure to move to that next phase from like things that you're hearing. And it's like, I just want to be in the phase that I'm in now, like, I'm enjoying every bit of this. Like, stop asking me if we're going to move in together, if we're going to get married, if we're going to have kids like we already have kids, three kids between us. So I feel like that's a lie. And he and I have had so many conversations about, you know, if it did go to that next step, what a transition period would look like because these kids have already gone through change. And so to, you know, do a drastic change by either like an engagement, a marriage, combining homes and then bringing another child into the mix. I feel like that's a lot all at once, and I'm just like, really in no rush to do any of that. I just want to like do it. However, it happens right now, you know, and I sometimes think that I even put pressure on my own relationship like not only outside people, because like, I haven't brought my boyfriend around my parents yet and my parents are like, When are you going to bring in? What are you going to be around? And I'm like, I just, I'm enjoying it for myself right now. And so then I sometimes will put pressure on myself, not only outside people, but I'm like, I just have got to just enjoy where we are right now and not let anybody else put pressure on me, but then equally not put any pressure on myself. Sometimes I think it's hard to. We were talking. I don't know if it was last week or a couple of weeks ago whenever it was talking about like being in a comparison game and like comparing to other people on Instagram or like whatever it is. And it can be so hard when you get in the habit of doing that or if you're seeing somebody that is doing something that your heart fully desires and you see that they're doing it and you're not, it's easy to get caught up in that game. Yeah, no, it is. And where we say the comparison is the thief of joy like that one thousand percent just steals every joy that you have. Absolutely. That's why I am like, you know what? No one steal my joy. I'm not rushing anything. Suburban dad is still suburban dad, and I'm at a medium launch and we're waiting for the hard launch. But we are happy with the medium launch. I think that the people are happy. We're going to love that for me, OK, and everybody just needs to be OK with it. 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Every Tuesday, we talk about parenting, co-parenting, lifestyle and sex, pop culture, current events and pretty much all the things you want in one podcast. So download and subscribe on your favorite podcast app. Listen to us every Tuesday and join us with all the tea. Wait, so this is perfect because I saw this Ticktalk. And have you ever watched Yellowstone? No, I mean, why I watched one episode and I couldn't get through it. OK, so I think that you have to get past a couple of episodes to like, really get invested. And for those people who listen who watch Yellowstone, who are listening to this, like, you understand that. But people regularly call me Beth Dutton, and I truly pride myself on that. They're so proud of it. I know who Dutton is, just because she's Beth Dutton. Yeah. And those of you who don't know who better Dutton is like, I'm truly alarmed and like, upset about it. The description of Beth Dutton. If you don't want to go on like watch Yellowstone, she is basically a compilation of flaws and virtues. She's often straddling straddling the line between antihero and villain, or toeing the balance between the two as skillfully as the most experienced tightrope tightrope walker. She's the juggler of anger, her love, bitterness and passion, and is balancing act like all in one. And so I don't know. That's like she's acknowledged. She is a bada*s. She's just a bada*s. You're like, Hey, humblebrag over here, but I'm a bad a*s is basically what you're saying right now. That's me way. But I saw this tick tock and I was like, OK. So relatable. Said this a few times. I feel like, you know, the reason why at least they've fallen in love with us and Taylor's writing of us is that they're not perfect, you know, and nothing in reality is perfect. You know, you can make these romantic stories of love at first sight and then the sunsets and all these gorgeous things. But the reality is, is that I feel like the audiences, especially here in America, they look at these two and they go, You know what? There's something I can relate to. It might not be everything, but there's little pieces that they take. And I think Taylor, you know, he found that heartbeat. And then he saw that Kelly and I enjoyed playing that and that we take risks together that we want to push the envelope and we love that. And that's what we're here for. So I think, you know, look, it starts with Taylor. Obviously, it goes into our hearts and it comes out of our mouths and it's just been we've been fortunate that way. And I'm like, You know what that is? First of all, so precious and just so realistic. And I think that's why I'm so obsessed with that relationship because it's not perfect, but it's definitely something that I desire. And I don't know if that makes me crazy or if it just makes me realistic, like, I think it makes you a human. And I think that people think maybe they want perfect, probably because of the social media life you know that we live by. No, I agree. Like, I want the the good and the bad. And to me, it's like, if you can put up with my bad and I can, I'm a self-aware right. Like, I realize that I have some bad. And if you can put up with my bad like that just makes me like even more passionate about you. And I think that if it was all good, I think it would lack passion. Well, and I think like in the current relationship that I'm in, I think that I've been able to so fully be myself and it's just like, This is who I am. And, you know, I have things to work on and I'll apologize for some of those things because they're definitely like trauma responses or things I need to work on through therapy. But at the same time, it is who I am, right? You know, and to be able to find that did and to be accepted at your most vulnerable state is the best feeling in the world. And I feel like that's what we all strive for. And it's like, you don't have to hide those things, right? It's like, you know, why? Yeah, this is like not the best quality that I have, but like, here I am on a silver platter. And like all of these things, aren't great. But like, here I am. Well, and I think too, I think that whenever you have conflict with somebody, you learn more about yourself as well, like you are way. I'm way more self-aware than I ever have been because of all of these conflicts that I've had in relationships. And I think that that's important, too, is to really know who you are and what you bring to the table. And that includes, you know, the good and the bad when you can't fix the bad. If you don't know about it. Well, I think that it's getting to a point of maybe it's emotional maturity, but getting to a point of identifying that you do have problems and being self-aware of those things and like what you're bringing into a relationship and what you need to work on, like if you aren't willing to work on it, you're never going to have a successful relationship, no matter who it's with. Right? And that goes for all relationships, right? Like not. Even your significant other but like friendships, yes, siblings, parents, you know, your children are all of it, like if you can't handle conflict, you're going to have conflict. And so I just think it brings you closer. I I do. Absolutely. I saw this one tick tock it was talking about. This man and he was saying that he and his wife had kind of made a pact before they got married, and I would love to get your thoughts on it. Hold on, let me find it. I just want to know if like you feel like it's realistic or if it's not. I think that I've seen this and I'm interested to see if it's someone that I think it is. OK, hold on. Clearly, we are addicted to tick tock. Literally wait before you paid the same or what? Wait, I'm going through my camera roll right now looking at all of my tech talks. And like some of the stuff that I see on my camera roll is absolutely so alarming. Then I'm like, If anybody ever took my phone, I would be most alarmed, not by my text messages, but by, like the tick talks that I save the day. The screen minus the screen shots the amount of things that I screenshot so I can go back and just laugh at them later. It's just ridiculous. It's kind of like your troll behavior on the Facebook pages. One 1000 percent. My screenshots are definitely trolling Carol. Oh my god, I love it. OK, hold on. Here it is. I found it located between my 25 TikTok decision from my life when I made a decision, when we got married twenty seven years ago that we would never mentioned divorce. Use the word divorce. Joke about it. It never. It's not an option for us where I have friends who in company mix company say, Yeah, my wife would divorce me if I did this. We don't make those jokes because we know that's not an option. So we burn the s**t, we burn the ships. They were not. That option is not on the table for us. So when we have fights which we do like, when we get upset with each other, we make sure that isn't that is not an option. We got to make this work. This is we're there. We're ride or die. OK, so I want to give you my take on this. OK, so I will say that I think if you always talk about that, then you're manifesting it in a way. And if it's always something that you're kind of like falling to and using as like a backup plan like, Oh, well, I can just divorce you, then it becomes probably your reality. And the reason I know this is because I did it, I did it, and I loved it. Yeah. I think that I mean, it's one of those things that I think that people do joke about, right, like he said that like, Oh my God, my wife would divorce me if I did that, you know, and he's like, We don't even joke about it. And I do think that it's one of those things that people joke about easily. And I think that jokes that were acceptable whenever we were growing up are no longer acceptable now. And so I think that if we could also do that, I mean, like think about how many less divorces there would be. I'm not saying it's the solution to divorce, but I think that if you could just take it off the table like making it a joke that there would truly like you said, like if you're manifesting it, I mean, you were just asking. I mean, I don't know. I think that it's probably easier. I've never been married, so I think it's got to be easier said than done to just say we're never going to talk about divorce. We're never going to joke. I mean, because I've done it with even my boyfriend, I'm like, Well, then I'm like, I'm going to do that, then I'm just going to break up with you. And it's like a almost like a threat, right? Like an ultimatum. It's like you do like we break up. But I will say, if you've been there and done it for me, I know that when we would used to argue it would be. And I was such a red flag like literally, I can call myself a red flag and that relationship, because I would always just be like, OK, fine. Like, we just need a divorce. Like, we're never going to like, be better. We just need a divorce. And I think when you have that mindset, you're setting yourself up for one failure. But you're basically saying, I'm unwilling to work on what we need to work to make this relationship last. So for those reasons alone, we're just going to divorce, right? Well, and it's too I mean, like some would say, and there are obviously some bad situations, but it's like it feels like a cop out, right? Like, we've got some work to do and we can do the uphill battle or we can just choose to just get out of it really easily. And I think that's somewhat of a cop out. In some situations it is well, it's easier to leave than to do the work, work hard and it takes time, works hard. Levin's easy, but this is something that I have discussed very heavily with my therapist and just something that even though like marriage isn't even being talked about right now. But just like for my future, if I ever got married again, it's something that I'm committed to in my future, that I'm just not going to say it because one it manifest it. I fully believe in that and to you should be willing to do the work if you're willing to put yourself out there to, you know, put yourself in a serious situation to get married to someone, then you should be willing to do the work. Yeah. I mean, one thousand percent agree. I think that that's probably it's it's so much easier. Like you said, it's it's easier to not do the work. And I think now versus 20 years ago, it's so much easier to not do the work because there's all these other options and it's so easy to be distracted and, you know, have all these other backup plans. And oh, if this one doesn't work out, then I've got somebody else that I can text and it's just so easily accessible to have something else that I think it is easier and it's tempting. It's tempting to just say, I'm going to I'm going to leave and I'm going to divorce and let's just divorce. While social media has done that and the internet has done that to make things so accessible that you have so many options now that you're not required to actually do the hard work like think about back in the day, I say like back in the day, but like before internet, way back in the night, you know what they say in the nineteen hundred nineteen hundreds, this is what was going on, and people actually had to work not to say that divorce wasn't going on, then I just feel like it wasn't as easy to do that like it was it people did work because they didn't have these dating apps or, you know, they couldn't just like, jump on Instagram. I don't know. Things just were like, so different then. I wish that I lived in that generation, to be honest. Like, I feel like I'm living in the wrong generation and that I should be in that one. Yeah, why aren't we? Why didn't they to remember? OK, wait, the other day when you and I were playing phone tag and we kept like having a hang up because people kept calling us? Yeah, how rude. Well, I was talking to my dad and I was like, Listen, Caroline and I were just talking about basically our parents and like talking s**t on you guys. And like, we didn't choose to be here and to like, deal with this dysfunction, literally. I did not ask to be brought into existence. So you did this to me. Like why? Why is this going on? Like, why is this happening? Literally, I didn't ask to be brought here. You did this. If you don't help me, it's your fault. I'm mad at you. OK, so I have a question. And this is more if you guys don't want to talk about sex and I'm like, don't listen to this part for like the next five Minutes II. But I saw this tech talk and it's a little like it might be a little much, but like, I'm still going to like talk. When does that ever stop? You have to be honest. Let's be honest. Like, when is I ever saw me? Ever has sex is better for guys. This is so much easier for you guys to have an orgasm. You know, if we're going to have an orgasm, it's just like you just have to kind of walk into something or. I guess to be like a drizzle out, you know, because my way I have narrowed down men's orgasms to three basic categories, like there's three basic ones. The first one is like you just got shot in the back with an arrow. The second one is like, you're puking. Oh, God is a rare one, but it's for the guys that are like secretly psychos and they hate women. And it'll come out like right at the finish line, you know, like out of nowhere, but like, yeah, I love you. I need you. Yes. You don't feel like, Oh, no. I thought we were in love. Hmm. Stop. I thought we were in love. So like, what do you think? OK, so here's my thing. I think it's funny. I think the arrow in the back is so accurate. It is so accurate. I'm like, as soon as she said it, I'm like, I know exactly what she's talking about. I know that one. I know that one. But I disagree. I think that men have it worse. I think there's more pressure on them. I do think that they can orgasm easier, but I think that there's a lot of pressure like to make a girl orgasm answer like perform. Yeah, perform well. And not only that, but a lot of it has to do with their size of their package down there. And there's nothing that you can do like if if I'm unhappy with my boob size, I can go and get breast implants from happy with my blood. I can go get by implants like there's no like penis enlargement surgery that I know of something that like extends. I don't know. Isn't that a thing? Hold on. Let me Google. Look it up eggs. Oh my god, if someone ever research eggs. Okay, let's see. Your Google is just alarming. OK, wait, I sold it way wrong. OK, but wait, I think that's just Viagra. Yeah, that's I'm saying I don't. There's no surgery. Why it says that the FDA FDA released an announcement in 2018 advising people not to buy or use extensions. So like actually, everybody don't listen to anything. I just said I sex advice by Lindsey Graham is in mind. I take know in my mind I thought it was an extender like that. You like, put on it an extension. I didn't know that. It was like, How would that even work? That literally would not work. Lindsey, I don't know, like a prosthetic like that. You just like slide on extensions. I don't know. Oh, that's what I would sense that you would have to extend like either at the base or in the middle. I couldn't extend the head part of it. Stop. It's like the logistics of it doesn't work out. I don't think. OK, well, whatever. I go back to what I was saying until you started talking about extending Sanusi's over here, whatever. I think that there's more pressure on guys to like, do this great thing. And I think because guys orgasm easier, I think it's easier on women to not have that extra pressure to like, Oh my god, I have to give them an orgasm. And like, I really don't know, like what I'm doing and I like, it's going to be so hard. And I think that there's a way more pressure on a guy. So wait, do you think that because I think that the sex game completely changes if you're like in a committed relationship that you're in love with someone that like you are not only connecting physically, you're connecting emotionally, and that changes the entire game in itself, like no matter what. Sticking with one thousand percent that and then it's also it's less about you and it's more about like the other person. Yeah, I mean, like if you don't care about the other person, right? It's not about them. It's only about you and you're just there for yourself. This is a one person thing. Vividly remember, like when Wil and I were in the phase of like we knew that we were definitely headed towards divorce. Yeah, but like had not made the final call. Like, it was definitely something we were like threatening each other with. But it's not something that had been fully decided on and we were still sexually active with each other and whatever. It was very much like just sex and. Yeah, I think that that changes the whole game all together. Like does not matter if like what you're working with. If I can't and maybe it's just me, like if I can't emotionally connect and it doesn't matter. No, I think that's I feel like that's everyone I would. I mean, well, maybe I'm stereotyping, but I would say, definitely females are that way. Yeah, I think more than I do think some women do, they're like, I don't care about you, and I'm just here to, like, have a good time. I do think there are some women that are like that, and I would never too. I'm I'm just not that way. I'm not that way, either. But like, I'm like judging who you do. You will. No judgment for me. Yeah, I know that I'm not judging at all. It's just not my thing. Do you think it's better for men or women with sex? I think it's easier for men. Yeah. Really? So you agree to take? Yeah, yeah. I think that like women are just like much more complex beings and men are just like it, just little creatures, simple creatures. And I think that for a lot of men and I'm generalizing here, but like for a lot of men, I think like sex is sex, and that goes back to my point of like being in a serious, committed relationship that, you know, maybe at that point a man is emotionally connecting when he's having sex. But for the most part, I think when men have sex, it's more for just like that. Physical engagement, so I think that it probably is harder in general for women. I agree, I agree to that point, but I still think that it's harder for men. I would love to know what other people think. I saw this one thing. I have no idea where I frickin saw it from. It could have been from a Facebook fan page of ours. It could have been from like my DMs, from Instagram, Twitter. I have no idea. But it says when someone comes looking for the old, you pulling old triggers that can't find you, that's healing that person you're looking for doesn't exist anymore. I've elevated that s**t doesn't even get and that s**t doesn't even get an emotional response out of me anymore. Good try, though. Stop it. I love it. Can't relate more. Could not relate more. That's amazing. I can think of a couple of people that if I was being a petty mimosa drinker that I could find, I have to say if I had a few more glasses of wine, then I would be sitting here calling some people out. But I'm not, and I'm being nice and I'm staying in my line tonight, for sure. Wait, so before we go, there was a couple of listener topics that people wanted to know, and this one was from last week. And then I just forgot to talk about it or we ran out of time. I don't now, or I was just like, negligent. But when I refer to my mom, a lot of people are just like, very confused. And I think I've seen this with my niece a little bit. And I think that like, I still do it as an adult. I always called Julie Julie growing up. If I am talking about her to someone else, I'll call her mom and then sometimes I interchange them. And like, I've seen my niece do it with my dad, like she'll call him dad or papa, sometimes depending on who the audience is. So I think if Jackson's there and he is saying Papa, then she's going to be more likely to like interchange those two, right? If he's not, then she's just using dad. And I think that sometimes when kids can, like, be confused and maybe I've just like, always been confused, I don't know. I think I confuse people a lot of times when I refer to Julia's Julie or refer to her as my mom. But I will just be more mindful whenever I'm telling a story about things. If it's my biological mom or mom. Well, I do. I think that's confusing for kids. And then it's still a confusing relationship, even if you are an adult. I struggled as a child with that. It's interesting that you change for your audience, though. I wouldn't have never expected that. Like, you change for the people that you're talking to. But I mean, it makes sense that like the people that I'm around, like, I get that I was always confused. Growing up as a child about it, because, you know, you don't want to disrespect your mom by referring to someone else's mom. But like, they're also mom, right? And so that's a hard but then I feel like I feel like that's hard because then I feel like there's the opposite side of kids to you that are, like, so protective, like, you're not my mom and like my mom's, my mom. And so I think it probably boils down a lot to the relationship that you have with your biological mom. First, we'll call it, you know, for sure, whatever that relationship looks like, it probably has a big impact on what you call that other person in your life. Would you be OK with being called mom of like a step kid? Would you be OK with that? Um, well, in my current situation, the girls have a grandmother, and so I think that that would be probably disrespectful to their mother. You know, so I think that I will forever just be Lenzie or miss Lindsay and like, I'm OK with that because it's more of a respect thing. But I'm also a fellow mom. So like, I know how I would feel. Yes. You know, so that's just kind of how I feel about that. But I'll be more mindful when I talk about it in the future. A lot of people asked about the book club and like, if it was deceased and I'm literally like cackling. I don't know what gave me that idea that I was going to have time to, like, read books on a timeline and like, do that. And like for all of you, book club people like, I have so much respect for you for being so dedicated to that. But I can tell you, by the time I get ready to go to bed like I need to pass out, like I don't have the the energy to be sitting there even listening to an audiobook. I'm like, I try to do it one time and I was like, OK, yeah, I don't know how to let everybody down, but like, I just I you for trying. I'm proud of you for trying. You stepped out of your comfort zone. You tried and then it didn't work out, and that happens sometimes. I just think book clubs, not for me. The only time I was in a successful book club was during quarantine. And then whenever things started opening back up, I this is a true story. I lied on that last book. I could not read it. I couldn't get through like the first 50 pages. So you lied on a book club, an elected read, a book, an elective book club that you read, a book that you didn't read. I showed up with my book in hand and I was like, We would talk about the session Typekit. So tell me what you think about that. And then I was like, Yeah, I agree with that. I felt the same way. I mean, like, I lie. Then I was like, at that point, I was like, OK, Book Club is not for me. Wait, so like, how long did this lie go on? Well, the whole hour of the book club, I mean, we were sitting there. It was on a zoom and I was like, I had my little book and like, things were starting to get on the zoom in the first place. Like, I have so many questions. I felt so bad and I don't know why I'm like it was of my good friends. I don't even know why I lied, but I just felt guilty because I was supposed to read the book and they all loved the book. And there I was. I didn't like it at all, and I was like, Oh yeah, I agree. And then finally, like a year later, I told him I was like, Hey, guys, just, you know, I never read that book, and they're like, Oh, they were so offended. And guys, oh yeah, it was a Full-On scammer. I so I didn't read it. That's so funny. Oh my god, I love that about you. I love that you did that. That sounds so something like I would do like, show up so unprepared, but like pretend like I studied for real. Oh yeah, I'm like, I am bamboozling you guys. Oh, that's happened. Ultimate bamboozle. And then the last question was just about lash lift, eyebrow tints, that whole experience and the process. And if I liked it, and I think this is the perfect conversation to have with Caroline because we both go back and forth between like this love hate relationship with intentions and Caroline can attest to what happened. So what happened with your last eyelash extension experience? No, you guys like I will go and get these lash extensions and think that like, I'm really like doing something great for my life and like, it's really going to turn my life around and I'm going to just like, be thriving with these lashes. I s**t you not like. I went to bed and woke up and one hole I had. No, I just it. And it feel OK. But then sitting there drinking champagne and Lindsay's like, I mean, I'm like under the end, like Lindsey just starts like playing with her eyelashes and like every single wine, she's just like pulling every eyelash extension out of her eyeball. And I look over, I'm like, I have a champagne glass in my hand. And then there's like 200 eyelash extensions, just like sitting in a pile on her kitchen counter right there. And I'm like, I'm alarmed. But at that point, she just ripped them all out and I'm like, These are not for, you know, you brought this up, though, because I got an eyebrow tint for the first time, like this weekend and I was terrified of it and I was like, I'm going to hate it. And this way, why did you have it? Obsessed? Yeah, I love it. It changes the whole. It changes the whole brow game, but way back to the lashes, really quick. So I'm just going to tell you that I made the decision to rip the other side off because I was like, If someone ever sees me like this, they're going to think something's majorly wrong with me. Like, I have lashes that look like I'm about to fly away on one side and on the other side, like they're nonexistent. And I didn't even have a tent, so they just looked so horrible. So then I went back to the lash lift intent and the brow wax intent and game changer. I'll probably be a hypocrite some point and change it back to try eyelash extensions because Caroline and I always do that. But right now, fourth, look at my lashes. I feel like they're looking pretty like they are looking pretty long. I look like a troll, right? Like, both of us are like one inch away from our computer screens right now. You know what I will say? I know that we were talking about, you know, some inconsistent things that my mom did in my life. But the one thing that she taught me was that it hurts to be pretty. And so every time I get my eyebrows waxed on like it hurts to be pretty and it's the best lesson she ever taught me. You're like for that. We love her. We love her for that. OK, so for you guys who have not subscribed to this other than podcast, make sure you do that by searching the Purple Podcast app, you can just type in the southern tea, click subscribe, click the FitStar and leave us our written review. You can also find us on Spotify. And for those of you who sometimes say that Apple and Spotify don't update at four a.m. For those of you who are listening that early, you can always find it on PodcastOne first. And also make sure you follow us on at the Southern Tip podcast on Instagram. Have you guys all have a great week, and we'll talk to you soon.