"The Franchise" Shane Douglas

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Action park media. Welcome back to flashback. I'm Jessica Hall. And I'm Diana Stagliano, and Diana is as giddy as can be because she gets to continue on with this whole Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial because a good friend is in studio and literally the second she walked in, she gave information that none of us have heard. Well, clearly I haven't heard anything. So Diana, would you like to make the intro? I'm giddy for several reasons, but this guest has been schooling me for years on things that I don't know. So like, she's taught me a lot over the time, like how to ship golf balls at Saddam Hussein's palace in Iraq, or how to ride a moped with a local in Baghdad, or how to how to shoot a machine gun off the side of a Blackhawk. So do you do you feel a little bad that if this guest taught you all that and you just taught me about the Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial, why not both useful? Both use pop cultured and one sees very well, very cultured from my very sweet friend. Christine Logan is in the studio today, and we had this whole thing. We wanted to just hear about your Hollywood stories and your movies, and you know you're choreographing and everything, but we first should discuss Johnny Depp. Sure. Yeah. Jump on and guys. OK, jump into the deep end. Yes, water is right. It is. I have to hear Christine Stories because flashbacks is the name of the show, and we literally flashback to those early days in Hollywood. So I know you have so many stories and I have so many questions, but just to make this one happy. Let's continue on. But not long, because there was some very interesting information that you just said that clearly Deonna didn't know. So that kind of makes me happy as well, because I'm not the only one in this room that doesn't know what's going on. OK, so it shook me because I was confused, Christine, where Elon Musk played into this. So when I saw that he donated to the foundation on her behalf three hundred fifty thousand dollars, I was like, Well, why would he do that? They must be friends. I had no idea that they dated. They had a whole allegedly. They had a whole relationship when she was married to Johnny Depp, and I guess she's had multiple relationships with all kinds of people. Yeah, there's James Franco, there's Elon Musk. There's all this video footage of him coming in and out of elevators on certain nights and the, you know, I guess the person that works at the building would like, like how to testify to the fact that he was up and down and up. And there is a rumor that somehow over the course of whatever this relationship was, that they had, that they created embryos together or somehow she got his sperm and created these embryos. I don't know how this is the rumor and that the baby that she has now, she won't say who the father is, but there is a lot of speculation that it is his child. Does the baby look like him? I mean, I feel like he's got some pretty girl. Oh, it's hard to say. I mean, the child is only like six months old, and I'm I'm under the impression she did not carry the child. Yeah, because I don't remember or even hearing if she was pregnant, either. I mean, or she got to wonder, clearly, is a brilliant man. Like, would he be a little more careful with his sperm? Well, and it's very strange, too, because then there was a whole thing of him apparently trying to get her to destroy them because they weren't going to be together anymore. But that that knowledge, though, where he tried to sue her like that, is that public knowledge? I don't know. I mean, this is these are things that I've read like I get yes, I guess it should be, but also the rumors that he's paying for her entire legal defense. So well, right? Does she doesn't have money? What does she have over Elon Musk? Yeah. So, OK, so you might know that if I were really honestly, did you guys see the movie Gone Girl? Yes, I feel like there are similarities there. That's all I'm like. There have been a lot of comparisons online to her and Gone Girl. No, isn't. And I'm not. I'm not. I'm not totally defending Johnny Depp, either. I think he is a drug addict who made some very questionable decisions with his life, and I think he got so famous and so rich that he doesn't live in reality. And sometimes that can make you make some very questionable decisions about how you treat other people. So I think they're both in the wrong. Well, and he's blatantly said, Yes, I am a drug addict. I'm an alcoholic. I have done these thing, but I think she's a manipulative gaslighter. Yeah, 100 percent. OK, so we were really wondering what happens at the end of this trial, and maybe you will know what happens if Johnny Depp wins, who pays the 50 million that he's suing for? She doesn't have it. No one is. No one is winning out of this. It's not even about like, no one's getting that money. It's about like now. I think it's about being right. It's about ego. And like, he is so much because she sued. He sued her for defamation in that she countersued him for $100 million. I mean, she obviously thinks that she's going to win this thing. And I, to be honest with you, I I don't know which way this is going to go, and I don't think anybody wins at the end of this, but everybody loses. Everybody's dirty laundry has been aired. Yeah, she is no longer hirable. Let me tell know the things, the audio recordings and stuff that they have shared in court that are now public, that you the things that you hear her say to him. So, you know, she there is the line where she flat out says, yes, tell the court, tell them I Johnny Depp, a man, a victim of domestic abuse, and see if the judge in the in the jury believe you like she says. Really, really nasty things to him. And I think that if you are a victim of any abuse, male or female, if someone were to hear that, all you hear is how she is narcissistic, the things she is belittling him. And she flat out admits that she didn't admit it in court. But she admits on all of those audio recordings that she has hit him. She has physically assaulted him on numerous occasions, and I think she has masterminded. I think she I mean, the fact that none of his friends went to that wedding. No one wanted him to get married to her. His own daughter hates her. There have been multiple reports about how she has made people cry, how she has been so rude and mean to people. I mean, I think she masterminded that entire relationship. I don't think she was ever in love with him. So right now she's filming Aquaman. I know that right? Because I saw she well, yeah, they're like, almost done. So what do you do in that case? I mean, you're an actress, so I really, truly have no idea. Producers are probably hoping that movie doesn't flop after they spent all this money. Nightmare. Yeah. I don't know. How do they flip that? I think it's really tough. I mean, by the time that movie comes out, who knows? People's attention spans for this kind of stuff are relatively small. It's so crazy, though. So if that movie comes out next summer, well, people have forgotten all about it. I mean, but was that movie only bankable because of her? No, no. So I think it's several big names in the movie need to be really happy. The sad fact is, and I said this to my husband this morning as we were talking about this and I said, You know, the thing is like Johnny Depp going through this is why it's so interesting. I actually don't think anybody knows who Amber Heard really was before this trial, and that's the sad fact that she would like probably her head would explode because the only reason she ever wanted to be famous was to be famous. Yeah. She strikes me as that kind of person, not because of the work, not because of the acting, not because of the artistry. The fact that, like the trial is what she's going to be most famous for is appalling. Yeah, it's sad. And I think if you're looking at the two of them on the stand, I mean, he clearly I I think in my personal opinion, loves the craft, the artistry. I think that he has really, really taken his career as an actor and he has treated every role as if he is fully immersed himself in that character. You know what I mean? Yeah, Johnny might be, you know, all of those things, a drug addict, a narcissist, a celebrity. But he is an artist. And at the end of the day, receivable, whether it's his drawings, whether you appreciate his painting, whether you appreciate his music, whether you think he's, you know, a great, you know, whether you love the Pirates of the Caribbean, whether you loved like Edward Scissorhands, like he is an artist. And I think at the end of the day, that's all. That's where all of his demons come from is the fact that he really has this very deep well of emotional pain. Yeah. And he also is he. He also shared tons of that in court, too, with his sister, as well as like they are products of abuse like he has shared, you know, his dad leaving and the like they have. You know what I mean? You don't just wake up one day and become crazy, you know, feel weird saying we're all a product of how we were raised. And he and his sister, she took the stand and shared about their family trauma growing up and some deep trauma. But it was interesting because he said I saw abuse in my home. I swore I would never abuse. I saw my father abuse my mother, and he has always said I would never abuse a woman. I was a product of that. Oh my God, we could go on for hours with this woman, though I'd never allow. Like, I always tell myself, do not give anyone like that much power of you. I want to know what she has that she's able to get these men like Elon Musk, Johnny Depp, like this young girl literally just came in and, well, she's not unattractive. I mean, she's an attractive to all of you. There's a lot of beautiful women in the world she had to in again. The whole gaslighting, like you said, there has to be something so good because these men are not done fighting marketing. You know, Elon Musk aside, I don't know a lot about him other than he's got billions of dollars in creeks with billions of dollars for reasons because he's you look at Johnny Depp as a broken human being, you know, aside from his artistry, what Christine said, he's a great actor, but he's a broken human being who has wholeheartedly admitted that he has drug alcohol issues, those things. And I think she really targeted that. You know, she took a broken human being and pretended to make him better. And let's be honest, you're on the set of The Rum Diaries. OK. She's like an up and coming. This is going to be her break. He is paying her a lot of attention. It's like, probably very flattering. I mean, it's a ripe situation. Trust me, it's a ripe situation for an explosive relationship. And we're there. Filming like somewhere was like, So yeah, there were only some private island and I have never there are two good looking people. I'm sure that's the physical attraction. I was never said like Johnny Depp. I mean, I appreciate his craft as a as an artist, right, as an actor. But like, I would never look at it and be like, Oh, he's smoking hot. But I bet if you're some no name and you're sitting at this table read and Johnny Depp pays you special attention, I would probably be like, mad. Oh my gosh. Yes, I mean. I probably jumped all over that, too. Totally. Oh my gosh. It's been like a long time talking about joined up now just like my headache. You don't have enough time in this day. No, we have lots of I have lots of really great Christine Lake and stories and Christine Lake. It has really great stories of her own, but I think a good place to start is how we met. I was telling this when I came into the studio is sharing with our producer Sophie, how we met and I was like eyes to God. The first time we met was shortly after I went on The Bachelorette, and we did a goodwill tour to Iraq to visit the soldiers. I was like, So happy to do that. I was really excited. We're both from originally Atlanta, and I'm on this plane and I'm sitting next to this girl and I'm like dying because I know who Christine like it is. Every Friday night was spent watching TGIF, so I watch step by step, so I'm partially dying inside, but I'm trying to play it cool because I don't want to be that crazy creeper who's like, Oh my god, can I have your autograph? But I really want it. And so we're probably an hour into the flight. They're going to serve dinner and we'll both get a glass of wine. And I finally lean over and I say, Listen, are you sitting right next to each other? Yeah, OK, OK. Yeah, business cla*s. Yeah. Got it. Very fancy. So fancy. Wow. Qatar Airways is really nice. So nice. So I lean over and I say, I have to admit I know who you are. And I loved step by step when I was a child. And she leans over to us. Oh, thank God, you broke the ice. I totally am obsessed with The Bachelorette, and I have a long list of questions. Will you answer them for you now? Absolutely. I was not die for I was like, Oh, and my boyfriend at the time loved it too, and he's like, You have to get the scoop. I'm like, Don't worry, you'll get the scoop. He's like, No, I'm serious. I got to know about this. I got to know I was like, OK, get off my back. Was he sitting next in the before we OK? I had a lot. He like, I need to know everything. Yeah. All right. We did that. We bonded and talked about all of that. And then you spend 10 days in not just a foreign country, but like the Middle East and slap dab center of a war like it was. Still, the war was still very much going on. What year? Give me a year when this was 2012. I know I got married in 2011, so it was 2010. I think it was, yeah, OK. And I also did not know who was going until they send over. They print up these like autograph sheets, right? And they send me a copy so that I know beforehand who to look for because no one travels with us until we get there or someone picks us up. And so when I see this card that we're going to be autographing, I see Logan's name right next to mine and I'm like, Oh my god, oh god. Oh my God. The most famous person I've ever met in my whole life, I was so excited. I mean, I love that you are both from Atlanta. Yeah, that is cool. I know that was such a strange and funny coincidence. Yeah, it really was an incredible experience. I mean, once in a lifetime, I agree how many people can say that they stayed in Saddam Hussein's palace like we slept in one of the guest rooms? So he had like one main palace once they took over? I think this is right. Once they took over the palace in Baghdad, the main palace where he lived became like a head call headquarters, like like special intelligence headquarters. Got it. And then there was like a lake surrounding it, right? And then on the outside of it, there were a bunch of homes that he built for, like when his family would come to stay. And so we stayed on one of the outside of the homes, right? But like everything, we did not sleep. We did not sleep. I went in, it was like, really scary. It's like you'd walk in and like everything looks opulent and crazy, but also a little bit rundown because, you know, war and like, there would be this crazy chandelier and whatever. And then the our host was telling us, yeah, like, don't touch anything too much because he would ask for all this crazy stuff to happen. He'd want it done in like a day. And so nothing is done well. Like everything is falling off. Everything is like within an inch of its life, like you touched plaster and it would fall off and three chicken wire underneath it. Yeah. Oh wow. Like, it was like, if you didn't do it, he would kill you, right? He was that. He was like, I mean, truly, yeah, like Hitler. I mean, he at that time when he demanded things to be done right? So we one of the funnest experiences I remember was hitting golf balls. So somebody sent, you know, the soldiers, golf clubs and golf balls out there. So on the outside of the house that we were staying in right in between the lake. The goal was to see who could hit the golf ball the farthest if you could get it to the one palace across the lake. Now, none of us did. I think that was the first time I ever swung a golf club in my life, but we have really great photos of that. Oh my gosh, what an experience and just so appreciative of, you know, is seen firsthand. Our troops living that way away from their home and friends and family and everything like that. So it's I still say to this day that by far, given The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, that is one of the most honorable things that I was ever, given the the opportunity to do. I also was like, Logan, I'll tell you this, but I was a bit of an animal because I was on the heels of finally announcing that the guy that I had chosen on the show is why we broke up. Yeah. And so I was like a single animal there. Every soldier, they look so uniform. They were so handsome and they had not. Some of them were at war bases where they hadn't seen a woman in like 13 months. So they were really happy to see us like we were not allowed to go to the bathroom by ourselves. Oh my gosh. But I had no problem when they would come up and ask them. It became this like a recurring theme. Or I would just say, Let me hold you like a baby if there was a handsome soldier in uniform. And I have so many pictures of me with grown men in my honor. And we're just like hugging that, just holding them, holding them. Yeah, yeah. It was special. It was very special. I ended up doing three more after that got life changing. They used to send a letter to Playboy Girls down there, and then they stopped. And that's like, right, when I was trying to go and I was like, Oh, it's such a bummer. I would have absolutely love to, you know, I do so much for the troops, you know, on my own. So just to be there firsthand would be pretty cool. But it was kind of nice that I am like a talentless person and got to go over there. You know what I mean? Like, you're an actress. The other girl I went was Miss USA. I think, you know, and I'm just like this girl who was on this reality show living her best life with all these men sitting in my lap. But Diane, I have you be. I showed my boobs. I really want to go there and tell us, Do we want to start? Well, I remember thinking one of the other tours I went over, I went over with like the Sacramento dancers, the Kings dancers or something like that. And I really appreciated that because we would like, I would like barely wash my hair when we went and the guys still thought we were great. Yeah, we got to wear boots and just your luggage. Do you remember that I had to borrow stuff from you? You were buying stuff from me and Rachel, like, they were much smaller than me. It was, you were like in the same outfit for two days. I probably did not smell great. Also, the showers were not ideal, so I remember thinking like, I'm not showering until I get to the next base because I was like, Yeah, fashion was tough, but I remember going over with the dancers and they had. Again, in full uniform and like perform for all these men who have not seen a woman in forever and I just got to go over and be like, Hey man, you want my autograph or I'll take a picture you want like whatever you want to do. I always thought about that, too, because when I was trying to go there, I was like, I really what? What could I do like watching? Because there was one, there was a few American Idol people. There was people that could deliver, like with actual talent. Yeah, yeah. With actual talent ever been? No, I wasn't. I got to the point where, like towards the end of the trip, I just started humming the step by step theme song. And guys would walk up and want to take a picture with Christine like it. And I would just be sitting there like, they don't know who I am, and it's totally fine. OK, let's talk about some Hollywood moments because Diane and I always talk about we were so lucky to do so much stuff before, like social media came out before. I mean, I've been I remember being on TMZ numerous times, but like just hoping no one actually watched it because, you know, it wasn't like played back on their Instagram because there was no such thing. But what is one of the craziest moments in L.A. that you experience may be out? Maybe you did something, or maybe you're just like, Thank goodness social media was not around. OK, I love this question because Christine has her own podcast called Worst Ever and Oh Yeah, podcast ever. Yeah, really? She has lots of really good. Worst ever stories in her. I have decades long career here. So many embarrassing stories. Yeah, this one. I mean, this is so interesting because it was a time in which social media wasn't really a thing, OK? But was it the right base like the MySpace was there, which no one was really using? Yeah, yeah. Okay, ladies. Facebook Yeah. And like, I think that like there were iPhones, but we were all mostly still on blackberries. Yeah. No one was recording stuff sidekick right here. But TMZ, yes. And like people following you, paparazzi rags, like all the rags were with a rage, right? So X17 online was really the only thing that people were reposting on and maybe like, you know, daily magazine, stuff like that. So I get this job as an actress. I was hired to do this, this little comedy called The Hottie and the Naughty. You may not have seen it. If you have seen it, you'd be the one. My co-star was Paris Hilton. I have seen it. Mind you, I have seen it. OK. Keep going. So talk about you. That's correct. Got it ! OK, keep going. And. And this was like a time in which like, you know, we're rehearsing, we're like starting to film the movie. I mean, and she is on fire anywhere she goes. There is a swarm of paparazzi around her, like the panty gate thing has happened with Britney Spears. Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. Lindsay Lohan. I think at this point she had been arrested once but not sent to jail goddess of the driving sex tape. Oh yeah, that was that was well out. So we've got it. It was just a really interesting time in my life to watch as like the person, the fly on the wall and watch how it all kind of worked. So I mean, to be frank, like, she's no dummy. She knew that her words were like where she was was built on how many photos, where the, you know, like that's that was her selling tool. So she would call the paparazzi and tell them where she was going to be that night and they would all line up for her. Yeah, because they knew that her picture sold and she wanted her picture to sell. Does that only build her brand? I mean, she was very strategic about it. So I got to I got to witness it firsthand. She says to me, Hey, b***h. So I have this idea. And by the way, she talks like this. Normally she does. Right isn't the way her voice really sounds. Yeah. So I have this idea. I think we should go out and promote the movie, and I'm like, OK, great. So what do we do? And she's like, Let's go out as her characters and we'll go to the clubs and we'll like, we'll like, create it. We'll go to like two or three different clubs and we'll like, create a scene upfront. And then, you know, and I was like, OK, like, let's try it. I have forgotten to mention the movie The Hottie in the novel. Yeah, yeah, is about a hot girl. Paris Hilton and her fugly friends. Me, sir. OK. If you're listening to this right now, you're just going to want to google it and look at the poster. That's exactly what I'm doing right now. I haven't seen in a very long time at Geico Cave People commercials. Yeah, that's that's pretty much what I look like. So Paris is ideas for you to dress up. So she stays the same, correct? Got it. I think to myself, Oh, OK, this is a great idea. And then as I'm like at the hair and makeup person's house and he's putting all the moles on me in the teeth. Oh gosh. Or something? And then I'm like, Hold on. You get to go out, is you? And I'm going out as a fugly troll. How did I agree to this? So we go from Christina doesn't even look like you think you? You're so beautiful. Thank you. So we go out like this and like, I come to our house, I'm all made up, right? We get in the car and we start driving to the clubs. And she's just like, This is going to be great. This is going to be great. Are you single at this time? No, I think I was in a relation. All right. So good news is you weren't trying to get picked up that night. Yeah, no. Complete, well, completely. And also, like a little bit of a social experiment. I don't know what I'm doing. There is no social media so like, Oh yeah, sure, we're promoting a movie. So I'm an actor. I'm. Fine with this. This is a roll, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's where I my hero budget actor. Yeah. So we get to the club and like, she's made these like these advanced reservations, right? So the bouncer lets her in and then he stops me. And then the TMZ and all the people here and I'm like, No, I'm with. I know I'm with, I'm with her, I'm with her. And there's like, you can. I think this footage exists on the internet now. But then the finally, she comes back and gets me and calls me by my character name and like brings me in and like the whole thing. So anyway, the night goes on, we do this thing, but then I'm just actually in the club partying as this person. And it's like 1:00 in the morning. 1:30 she's talking to people. The Olsen twins are over here. She's having a fight with someone who knows. I'm like on a couch. I'm just like living your best life for tequilas deep at this point because I'm not driving. And what else are you going to do? No, exactly. So someone comes up to me and they're like, Oh, I like, So what do you have? And I go tequila on the rocks. And he goes, No, no, I mean, what disease do you have your Make-A-Wish person right here with you? So they thought I was like, I wanted that little friend. Like, What did you say a moment? Oh, no, I'm an actress. This is not really me. And it was like at that moment that I was like, What am I doing? You're like doing this is this is ridiculous. So I guess I guess that would be one thing that like, although bits and pieces of that exist, that's something that had there been social media, I think it would have been everywhere. Well, actually, no. But I think about some, yes, because the promotion for that movie truth, maybe, you know, I mean, I don't know how well the movie did, but not great. OK, got it. Got it. Boy, I just looked at the thing and I'm like, Wasn't career making, let's say no, it wasn't career making. I mean, it wasn't career breaking, but it was it was just sign of something that happened. It's interesting, too, because I think especially at that time, then there was kind of like a backlash against all of that and no one wanted to see anybody succeed in like a real endeavor. You know, people only wanted to consume kind of like garbage media of like, Oh, this person's not wearing underwear and they're getting arrested and hotness, and let's watch them be sweaty and like, you know, barefoot in a bathroom. I feel like that's what sold. That's what the puzzle that brought. They were able to able to sell stories like that way before there was social media or really like anything online, you know what I mean? But there's never really any in the entertainment world. I feel like good news. Nobody really wants to hear like the success. People are drawn in every aspect of life. I feel like towards drama, it's all right, even for myself with certain friends. If I don't talk like, you know, if I don't like, just go ahead and be like, Oh yeah, that's that's blah blah blah. Oh yeah. It's like, they don't talk to me as much because they're like, Oh, well, let me talk to someone else that will, like, you know, talk with negativity breeds. Negativity is same. But you know, if you don't feed into it, though, it's like I found myself like just kind of being a little lonely sometimes. I do know I'm dead. I was just having this conversation with my husband. I was like, Gosh, we're whereas blah blah blah. Then I was like, Oh yeah, I don't, you know, because you don't. And I think just all together, like with everything online social media, all that. Like, they don't want to see it. They see a cute picture. Oh, yeah, you're having fun. OK, whatever. But if you post like, I'm getting a divorce, but you'd get more attention. I think also for people who are walking through me, trying is walking through difficult things that in their in their lives, it's hard for them to see someone who's doing really well or are super happy or whatever. Sometimes it's easier for them to see someone who is like, Oh hell, they're also going through a s**tty time. Like, they gravitate towards that because maybe sometimes it makes you feel a little bit better and s**tty life. Well, no, many times are OK, but like when you're really hurting someone or talking like really negative like that tonight doesn't equal out. Like when they say, like, Well, I think people try to attract, I'm going to get real weird on, you know, it's good. It's good. I think people try to attract whatever vibration they're living in because it feels comfortable to them. And when you are not into that anymore and you're like, duh, then it's no longer like you're no longer attracted to it. Does that make sense? No, I do attract what they wear. They are comfortable. And I think like for some people, that's like mired in the like, you know, the reality of like, I'm just going to everything's awful. Everything's coming to me. It's really terrible. Commiserate with me. Yeah, it makes me feel safe. Yeah, no. I definitely get that. I definitely get. That's great, you know? But it is. It is interesting when you're like not into it anymore, you know, it's kind of like tough. Oh God. Because before I mean, I think as I get older and I think we're all probably in that same, you just don't I don't know if they care as much, but you're just like, That does serve me. I only have this many years left. I feel like I'm cool in my 20s. Everything's just like a place where you're kind of like, I want to give life filling things now. Like, I just don't have time for stuff like that. Yeah. And it's not that I'm being like rudeness, and I'm just like, I just I'm not caring is not a good thing. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying it's kind of just like I'm more comfortable and I just get marketplace and I just get like, OK, cool. Like, Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know if it's coming out right, but I think you guys understand what I'm saying. I totally OK. Good. Good, good. You know, I will say I'm really in many ways, you know, I had I had such a big part of my career was when I was a kid. Yeah, so I started step by step when I was 12. I ended when I was 19, I went to. Right after that, I kept working and like social media wasn't really a thing until I was probably in my late 20s. OK, so now you know, I see everything from the other side, like when I direct, like younger kids on these shows or I won't say kids, young adults, really. And social media is such a big part of their life, of their brand of who they are. I mean, some of these people, these actors, these young actors have like a million millions, millions of followers, the pressure, the amount of pressure I can't even like. For me, I was like, Oh, they want to do an article on you and Teen Beat? I'd be like, Okay, yeah. Who's reading Team B? B, it's like black and white. OK, it's not even a color photo. No one was following me around. I was in college. No one was looking at me taking pictures of me. I'd go to a college party like there was no record of any of this. Yeah, and I think there's such a freedom to that, especially when you grow up in a spotlight already. I can't even imagine the pressure that I mean famous or not famous. I think too many young people feel a pressure to perform to perform their life, and it becomes like, Well, now I have to. Now I have to be a Tik Tok star and I have to be a thespian and I have to do theater and they want me to do voiceover and I need to do movies. It's like, Oh my God, you don't have to do any of it. Yeah, but I do. I created step by step was huge. You know what I mean? Like, that was huge when you think about like, Oh yeah, our era when I was young enough to watch it like you were like, that was that was really, really big. Could you imagine even now taking that? What if that was happening right now? You know, what were you? 12. Yeah, you probably want to be who you are today. No, you had all that pressure. Oh God. You started now. I've been on it. I mean, that's like equivalent to, I don't know, TV. So I can't even say something like, that's out now. But I guess you think like we talk a lot about in here like the club scene. For some reason, we talk about a lot about, you know, actors and stuff that we would see out. But when you think about it, look at Miley Cyrus like she was a product of like a childhood actress and then at a really young age, was in the clubs getting wasted, making these mistakes. You know what I mean? But like, I would imagine that's probably the equivalent, and it probably changed her trajectory. Sure. Significantly. Absolutely. You know, it's crazy as I just posted and I was thinking about this today because I met Hilary Duff a few years ago. She she befriended me through social media and we did a couple of panels together and we just, she's such a great girl, but she is one that I can say. I just posted her today. She did the cover of Woman's Health, but she was a child actor as she has gotten, I think, gracefully throughout the years. I mean, she's a couple of years younger than me, and I think it's just that's pretty cool to see someone that started so young that has been able to still do this business. She has three children. She's, you know, she just she's just someone to look up to for women so young and starting, I think. Same age as you about Christine. I would imagine that's why people gravitate towards you. You know what I mean? Like, it's not because I think who you are as a person stands very much more clear than you as an actress. Now, I don't want to belittle that because I know that you're a really phenomenal actor and very good at all of your craft. Like Christine does theater. She sings, she dances. She produces choreography like she does. I mean, when we filmed moms in cars, I literally would be in awe of Christine because she would stand with our camera guy and would literally aim the shot, you know, and how she wanted things look. And I just stood there like just in awe of someone who just has a raw talent and all that. But I think that's also a way to type from my own head. I'm just like, I'll put a filter on like, you know, it was the beauty of it, because I think that piece aside, the other piece is like, you're still a great person and a good friend and a mom and a wife, and all of these wonderful things that people probably don't even get to tap into that aspect of it. I mean, and I think like, you know, and that's completely possible, it's completely possible to be a young actor now and grow up with social media and turn out normal. But I think so much of it. Yeah. And I think so much of it depends on the family and the community you have around you. You know, life was always more important than show business for me. Yeah, like real life and because famous, fleeting and a money comes and goes. And at the end of the day, like, it's all disposable. So if you hang your hat on it, like, you know, you got nothing. Yeah. So I feel like people who have not believed their own hype, who have just put their head down, sometimes get the job. Sometimes you don't continue on, do the work. If you're not having fun doing something else like it doesn't have to be, you don't have to have your all your whole ego wrapped up in every job. And I think that was a very important lesson for me. Yeah. So since we did talk about the clubs and I want to talk about something a little more lighthearted and kind of funny because I mean, we have our club story days for them. How many clubs do you see? Who was the guy who always ends up Leonardo DiCaprio? Oh, how many clubs did you see him in? You know what? I never saw Leo. I never. The first, the only time I totally it was when I was a kid, and he came to like one of my co-stars, birth the 16th birthday party and he got there with Tobey Maguire. And he was just like it was at like the Elks Lodge in like, like Burbank. And he was. Been there. Yeah, I'm cool, I'm out. He was not having it. He was like growing pains. Guys, I got to go. It's it's kind of funny because the majority of our guests that do come in here, it's like everybody has this Leo story, like, we actually had one girl that was in here that we thought it her baby daddy was. She thought her baby belonged to Leo. But the best part of it was this like, we had this great. I mean, she is so inspirational. She just as she's promoting her book and everything. And at the very end, we're like, OK, you know, she enlightened me Indian on so many levels and then we're like, OK, well, before we end, this is flashbacks. What are some Hollywood stories? And she goes, Oh, I think my child might be Leo DiCaprio? And we're like, Wait, what? We're not like the episode. We were like, I'm sorry, you know, we're going back. We're going back. Yeah, twists. But it was really funny, and clearly it was not. But if you do look at her child now, who is, I think, like 18 or 19 looks very, very, very similar. Yeah. And the thing is, too, is that Kevin Connolly owns ActionScript Mehta. He's in his office there and they're like best buddies. And I'm sure he's always like, Oh my gosh, please, no more stories talking about my friend. No, I would see. I mean, Shane West all the time. Oh, yes, I saw him too. Shane and I did so, but we would always he'd always be like, Hey, Christina, you do it, you know? Yeah. And we like have like a hug and there'd be some kind of like too long of a kiss on the lips, you know, just like, How are you? You know, I didn't mind it. You really get really good looking. Yeah, I don't mind it. And then who else? I would see Mario Lopez all the time. OK. Mario makes his way around. We have seen Mario. We have grandma to supply. Yes, with a girl that we know who would never answer our phone calls. Oh wait, the girl wouldn't answer your phone. No, we thought we were friends and we spent some time hanging out after our some of our tours and we would go out to dinner. And then we went. There we went. Yeah, like my love, my friend dated him. We ended up at a booth and she was she was giving him a lap dance in the seat next to us, and he was like, Oh, hey, guys, we were like, Hello, we're like, Hey, we really? Yeah, we really stepped in that one. The clubs were so weird like clubs you guys remember because I I mean, I would pomus Teddy's Teddy Joseph Ledoux, Lydia Colony. Lydia decided to do once or twice. Yeah, yeah. Well, do was very cool. They used to hold like movie premieres and things like the MTV like pre-game like award shows they do on. Yeah, those were there. Oh yeah, there were so many. Yeah, because they wouldn't last. So if anyone's listening to this in Los Angeles, like when a club would go, it'd be hot for like six months, one year at the most. Right. So that's a big turnaround. It's not that we've been to we've been every single one of those clubs, but in a few years, band, it's not like because I think we just need about 10. Yeah. But yeah, well, let a club remember that place. Yeah. And then it became something else. I can't remember the name, but I had my birthday party there once. It was fabulous. I had my 21st birthday at Joseph's on a Monday night. By the way, Josephs, who would have like the happening night at the club on Monday. Anyway, you the odd thing about early Hollywood. It's like Serena. You could go out any night of the week, like a lot of the big clubs were only open, like Thursday, Friday, Saturday night. You know, if you went out Friday Saturday, you weren't cool. Like, that's how it was when I went out. It was like Tuesdays and Thursday. Exactly. Every club had its thing. Yeah, but never on the weekend. The people from like Orange County and stuff come up on the weekends, right? Yeah, it was. It was wild. I just want to be like, I can't do this. Like, I got to get a job. Am I going to pay for my drinks? There's a there's a DJ that I love, and I followed him over the years and I think he played my birthday when I had it. Hollywood Athletic Club anyway. He's he's really great. He does lots of events now and every now and then he invites me to wherever he's spinning and he has like a and I said to my husband, I was like, Are we old? Like, Maybe we should go or listen to music. I mean, maybe we should go out. We go to this thing. I got invited this thing and he's like, Yeah, sounds great. Sounds great, but like, OK, it's on Saturday and it starts at 10. No. Oh God, that feels hard. It really does. I was 10. I went to a concert by REM cycle by then and I kept looking at the clock and everyone's all excited to be there. And I'm just like, Oh my gosh, I thought I was going to eat. It's like nine fifteen. I'm like stressing, I'm like, Oh my gosh, I have to get up and I don't. It's the worst feeling, but I kind of stuff with that because I got to live in the moment. But it was kind of like a hard thing, OK, to be tired. I know, but I'm already there. I know you. I bought the tickets and I'm like, What am I going to tell Eric Church to come down? Like, What am I supposed to say now that you're in now? So now it's past my bedtime? Yes. Yes. I mean, when does it? I can't hang like I used to. I think that's a normal thing, but it's like sometimes like I got to let. I mean, I was Carrie Underwood's performing the stagecoach. I'm like, Oh, I looked at my husband. I go, I'm so tired, and he's like, Let's just go back. It's fine. Like, I left two songs then. Yeah, I know well, but I was there all day. Like, Don't I? I was. I'm not trying to brag, but I had my first shotgun beer at 9:30 a.m., Right? Yeah, I used to start early and end early. I love a happy hour date. If I can get that sitter there by four. Oo. Winner. Winner? Yeah. And then I'm home by seven more like 7:30. She's putting him to bed. So perfect. And I just like start might like slow like, you know, decline. Into every new room and you wake up just fine, yep, yep, I'm with you the anxiety of knowing that even if my children didn't wake me up at 6:30, I probably would anyway. And that's when it sucks. So I do. You guys do this too? And I don't know if this is age or I just sound really lame right now. But when I have something like big to do, like yesterday, I had to go film in Temecula. I fixated on so much. I'm like, Oh my gosh, like before I would be like, busy, busy, busy every day I love, though I thrived off, I was like, This is great, which I do like when I'm like close to home in bulk with the kids and stuff like that. But when I had when I have to go do something for like an eight hour day and I have to drive, it's all I can think about until it's over. Like, I'm just like, Oh, you know, I love this, I can't wait for it to be over. Yes, it's like, you know, when I have something big to do. But before I had work like eight 10 hour days, like on different sets or different, you know, I did deal or no deal. I did. I was always busy, but now is just like, and it's not. I'm not lazy by any means, but I just get so I feel like the pandemic did change us all. That's what it was. I felt like. Place it in my bubble now. Literally, if I have to like, leave within a mile radius, sometimes I'm like, Oh, even coming over here, I feel like I'm a tourist in my own neighborhood. I was like, What's that? Where am I? What's Hollywood like? I'm looking around like, Yeah, it's amazing. I feel like I'm in a totally different city. Yeah, like, it's crazy because yeah, I just, you know, the fact is like, I work in these little bubbles and I go to a studio and I come home, and that's all I see. Yeah, no, I agree. Even like with restaurants or going out like I go to the same places. Yes. Like if you if you invite me somewhere else, I get a little bit like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm like, Oh, what if the food's not any good? You know what? Those priorities have really shifted. Yeah, but I think you're right with the whole pandemic. What I mean that is it made us slow down. Yes. And I can't really get back into the vibe that I was into, like two years ago. Like, Yeah, and I am still very busy. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not as like crazy. I don't have you know what it is. I don't have FOMO. I get invited to. So this year alone, when events are back, I'm going invite the premieres and this and then nothing. I'm like, No, I'm good. I'm good. Before I'd be like, Oh, did on social media. That looks so fun I should have when I don't have that feeling whatsoever anymore, like at all. Yeah. Kind of the nice thing, right? Maybe it just shifted priorities a bit. And it was also really nice for I kind of miss COVID, you know, being stuck at our home. Like, I actually really enjoyed the year of just like sitting with my family and not having to see or do anything or put on real pants. Yeah, but that's when I gain by 12 pounds. Well, I did, too. I started to learn to appreciate those extra 12 pounds and be fine. I'm super happy. I did try to look at my jeans yesterday and try to put on a pair, and I was like that. Are not going to do that anymore. If I if I started working out more like four months ago, consistently doing my hardcore like training and I see a difference in my muscle tone, but I gained weight. Well, yeah, because muscle is, you know, but I feel better in a swimsuit, my jeans every day. I feel good, but I'm like, God, I can't wait. Oh, don't worry, muscle, though. Yeah, yeah. Don't look at that number and look at the so I did it. It was just like sitting there the other day. I don't own one, but I was in like I was games like solitaire, and I also had to step on it. So I literally looked like a caveman. I was like, OK, I had a black screen, so I was like, How does it? How do we do this on white tapping it with the toe? And I'm like, Great, how does this work? And then I get on. Then I'm like, OK, I wish I would have just thought it was broken. It is funny, though, how like, you know, I feel like I don't know how much longer it will be, but it is the ultimate excuse for anything. You know, someone invites you to that like fourth child sprinkle and you're like, I don't, I don't want to get you sick. And I don't know. And I feel like a lot of people I know of culvert that I'm just not sure I know one fake. It makes you feel like they're they're literally like, Oh no, don't come, oh god. But then on the other hand, I get when I think I had some kind of event, I don't know which one it was, and I had so many people say that, and I'm like, Send me a test. It's like, you know, I get so like because it was like the ultimate excuse for so long. And I haven't I haven't played that excuse. But I also not that I'm like working consistent, but I'm on it. I'm technically on a production, but I'm only filming a little bit. But so every Monday they send someone to my house. So I'm like, Yeah, you know, this sounds so awful. I they sent to my house on Monday, and then I had to work yesterday, you know, and I was just like, What is it? What is it? Am I good? Am I good? And he's like, Yeah, you're good. And I'm like, Yeah, because at first I was like, I don't know the stagecoach. I don't know. You know, you just never. You never know. Yeah, I know. But even now, like even with like random colds and whatever, you know? Yeah, it's oh now there is saying because of yeah, and that too. I mean, you know, forget there's other things. There's other things like my daughter has a cough right now and I know it's not COVID. She was just COVID tested. Yeah, but she's coughing and people give you that like, Look, if I know you're funniest meme at the beginning with COVID, and I think I probably still have it on my phone because I thought it was hilarious. Before COVID, you would cough to cover up a fart. After COVID, you fart cover up a cough. That's true because I literally I was picking the kids up from school yesterday and I have my nephew with me and he's got a little cough on him and and he coughed and I saw several faces turn around. Look at me and I was like, Oh, let's do it over here. Be so like, you know? Covered anyone, but he doesn't a COVID. No, but that's that's just the part that we can't live like in fear like that also because I don't want to think that people, I mean, people do that all the time, though, like someone sees that me the other day and they're like, I don't have a code, but I go, I didn't ask, like, you know, I know, please know that like, I'm not making you feel like that's your legal fees. I see. I have a little edge since I was at the stagecoach. And obviously the, you know, Palm Springs has lot of wins and deaths. So my nose was just like just a mess. And I was like, Oh great, my husband's like Jessica, you were just first of all, we're not going to start with what you drink. And all I got was we stayed in the RV and we, oh, anyways. Yeah, moving on, moving on. Before we wrap up today, I follow worst ever on social media too, because I feel like they post who runs the social media. Is it, you know, it's our we have an incredible fan turned friends or something. We call him Nathan Pie. Any time we talk about anything, he can find it. He's like, he's like a lucky ordinaire. So I'll talk about it like a random commercial that I did, you know, when I was seven. And he'll find it and put it in a bottle. I so appreciate. I love following them because he'll post tons of old stuff from, like your early work days. It's really funny, like even stuff recently to like stuff that you've done, but I love to see some of the older stuff that they post, you know? And it's so funny, too, because a lot of the videos can be truly grainy because, you know, they could have been at the beginning of her career. Like, amazing how TV has changed over the decades, but I really appreciate that. So what I would love to hear since you have so many great stories is like you could share one or two of your like worst Evers audition stories. Oh my audition stories the worst one I can honestly think of. And I mean, there have been so many. I was working on I was doing a pilot presentation for Comedy Central, and Jason Lee was was directing it. Steve Guttenberg was in it. It was super fun. In this scene, we're at some party. I'm playing Steve Gutenberg's assistant and I'm very disgruntled. I was like, He's a personal assistant in this show. And so I'm just like downing like champagne at this thing. That's the character choice I made for the scene. OK. Aside from that, I had also recently auditioned for another pilot, and because this was like in whatever it was, they were letting me go and do this other audition because there was no hold on me doing both things. So this other pilot, I think, was for CBS. It was a half hour with Tracy Morgan and I was testing for it. So the test date came on the day I was filming and the people were all the producers were nice enough to say, OK, we're going to shoot your scene out in the in the morning. You can go do your test. They say the test is going to between between like eleven and two. You'll go on your lunch break. We'll have a drive you so you don't have to park. I was like, This is so nice of you. Thank you. And then we'll come. We'll pick you up and you'll continue filming. Great. So I get there in the morning, I'm doing the scene, I'm doing the champagne were do take after. Take it, I'm downing the champagne and champagne. No, no, it's apple juice. Oh, OK. Yeah, that's what they use for champagne. And I'm just like, great. And they're like, OK, good. Go off. Go do your thing. So I change really quickly. This character was meant to be in the in. The test was meant to be like somebody like a hostess at like a TGI Fridays type thing. So I'm like, you know, I have I'm like a polo shirt and like a white skirt. I'm just trying to think like, you know, Applebee's or whatever. Yeah. So we're driving, we're driving. They dropped me off. I'm walking through the gate. One thing you should know just it's a life thing. Apple juice, especially sparkling cider, is a diuretic. Oh, oh, I did not know that I actually right, but I'm not sure if you drink it in excess. It will make things come out that you don't want them to come out, and it does not matter if you're clenching. Oh, I love a good move story. I'm literally giving my ID and I feel the rumbles and I'm like, Oh no, what color was this great white you jean skirt? Oh gosh, I give my him my ID and I know. Thank God there is a bathroom straight to my left, like through the double doors of this huge building and I am walking very briskly. I'm doing like a clenched kind of like, you know, like really fast sort of competitive Walker Walk. It's no, I don't make it like a mall. I don't make it. There's a fart. It's not a fart. It comes out. I am rushing into the bathroom as quickly as I can. Thank God the skirt is salvaged. Nothing else is. So I take off the underwear. I just throw them out, throw them out. I clean everything up and now I have like I'm. It's the test is starting in three minutes. There's no time I have to get there. I still have to walk halfway across the lot and now sit and wait to do this thing. And I'm wearing a white skirt with no underwear. Oh, so so no commando. The white skirt was day or to salvage what is the underwear was not so terrible, not terrible, except for the fact that now all I can think about is if your vagina, something else happens, I'm f**ked. Like, There's no barrier. There is nothing, there's no barrier at all. So I get to the test, you know, it's like three or four people. We're all going up against each other and a bunch of other characters. And he's running late and they're running late. And I'm just like, Oh s**t, I got like, literal. Again, this is horrible. Thank God there's a bathroom there every time I think I feel anything, I'm rushing into that bath. Yes, people probably thought I was having either a panic attack or doing cocaine because I was in and out of that bathroom, like 15 times before I finally went. And I rather say a panic attack than diarrhea, I guess. So I finally get in. It goes, OK. Things are fine. I do my I to my audition and then I get back in the car and go back to work. Did you get all of that? No, the whole thing fell apart. I mean, like all of that for nothing again. But what are the reasons why? And I have to stop acting because I can't. I can't. I can't have like moments like this. But have it just go nowhere is untenable. Christine, I had a little similar situation like that where I was auditioning for something for like, just like a commercial. I was never an actress, but it was something something and the bathroom was in the audition room. What I had to do, it was like a big it was. It was. I remember this, so I could probably even drive there right now because I will never forget this. It was like on even terrible Vard. It was one of those like smaller studio buildings, but it was like a big studio space. Sure. So they all lined up and I was like, I got there and I was like, Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, what just happened on my stomach? The Rumble and I go, No way, no way. And I'm in a bikini because it's like Karl's some kind of commercial. And I was like, Oh, I go, I'm sorry, you got to go the bathroom. Where is it? And they pointed it was a door in the corner in the big league studio. So there are chairs. I mean, it was a good distance, but it was still out in the open. I was like curtain based mother you could put on. So I went to the bathroom there and I'm literally going and I'm like crying because I have to step out of this bathroom and see everybody. So I get out and the guys just kind of looked at me. They put their head down. Clearly, it was like I was in there for such a long time and I was like, I'm getting like, no worries. And I just left. I kind of rush out of there faster, and I'm just like, God, they know exactly what happened. Oh my gosh. I didn't audition. And clearly I I feel like everyone has like a solid poop story and it doesn't matter how old you get, they're still really good. So this is my epic poop story. I have a lot because I have weird stomach issues. I can't not tell you how many times I've been in my car on one side leg, clenching my butt so hard and it's hard to do when you drive a stick shift. Oh, that gives like some motion too. Shortly after I was on The Bachelorette, the show is airing and Christine knows where I'm from in Atlanta. And it's a small town. So like I was the small town famous person, like everyone knew who I was like I could not go out and about because everyone was watching the show and they knew I was this girl from Newton who was on TV, right? I had to go to my doctor to get contacts, and unfortunately for me, it is an across town. It's a solid 20 minute drive and I had just had a Starbucks and I was super happy. They gave it to me for free because I was on The Bachelorette and it was so stokes. I drink my coffee the whole way over to the optometrist. I go in the girl. The front desk makes me stand for pictures as they're getting my contacts. No, no, no, no, no. So I get back to my car and it hits me. I'm like, Coffee is a diuretic. Coffee is a diuretic and I can feel it. My stomach is starting to cramp and I'm like, Oh, well, I cannot go to the bathroom here because they all know me now. And they were just taking my picture, so I'm going to try and make it home. I too am wearing a skirt. No, I'm wearing a skirt because it's hot in the summertime in Georgia. I get in my car. Mitsubishi Eclipse. It is a stick shift, sure. And I started on my trek home and I am maybe five minutes into my drive when it really starts to like, get at me. Like, I'm thinking, OK, I don't think I'm gonna quite make it home. But if I could just make it partway that I'll be OK, I'll just pop into a gas station or something. No one's going to know who I am, and I am full on for the visual effect on my right side, my right butt cheeks. I am clenched so hard and ever driven a stick shift. You need both feet. Yes, you need both feet. I found it so terribly difficult. Yeah, to pump the clutch and the gas while I am on it is a real talent. Yeah, inside of my butt cheek and I am. I'm clench so hard, you guys that I am shaking. I am physically my entire body is convulsing because I have my butt clenched so hard so that I do not s**t in my car. I make it through the town that I live in, and there is this very small town. Before you get to like my house, there is like literally on this street in palmetto. There's like three shops. One is a restaurant where everyone in town goes to. I had to get out. I couldn't. I couldn't stop. So I walk into this restaurant and I am frantic. The two hostess stop and they look at me and they are star struck. You guys literally mouth hanging open. The one girl has sweaty palms. They're like, Oh my God, you are her. And I'm like. I am dying. Please put me into the box to say I'm going to show my. Bathroom, please whatever you do. So I did the same thing as Christine. I shed a little, I had to. The panties did not make it. I was the bachelorette who took my underwear off and enrolled them up and stuffed them into the trashcan in the bathroom. I tried to figure out how I'm going to walk through this shamelessly out of the restaurant, and these girls know at this point like, I almost s**t my pants. They have no. And before I leave, I make it almost to the door, pure embarrassment before they stop me and say, Oh, do you think we could get a picture? And I'm like, Oh my God, I'm the girl. Almost s**t. My pants now going to smile for a photo. And I know in the world. Oh yeah. Wow. Well, there's some s**t flashbacks like that's pretty much, I mean, the worst. It was the worst audition I'd ever had. It was not. It was so panic inducing. I don't even know what I did in that room. I was like a Tracy Morgan being like, Just clench your bass, just clench your a*s and look at him and pretend to say lines. Yeah, but we made it through. You saw it smiled for a picture. You hightailed it out of there. You're probably super thin and your swimsuit after that tells us, I do not know. I mean, I doubt a full on set story as well, like walking back from literally a restaurant in Sherman Oaks because I used to walk to everything where my house was, and I must say it off a dirty plate and hit me within seconds. It was a really horrible moment that I was with my husband's friend trying to entertain him because he was in town and Kyle had to work. So I s**t my pants in front of my husband's friend. Oh god, yeah. Anyway, best friend from college left softball one night in her softball uniform and we stopped by Hooters and eight wings and she was not going to make it home, so I convinced her to stop on the side of the interstate. She listens to the podcast. She's really going to appreciate that I'm telling a story. We stopped on the interstate and she got off on the interstate and leaned on the front of the Jeep, holding on to the front bumper and dropped her jaws and s**t everywhere. I like her. I turn the headlights on when cars were coming by, so then she ran around to the back and she was like dying, sitting at the same time, and we were laughing so hard. And then there was nothing. She had to sit on a plastic bag the rest of the way home because without me in the car for her, she's still too many s**t stories in a lot of fun. Yeah, we should do this again very well. This went dark. Everybody's very listening. Like, those are like really some three attractive women. All right. I don't know. Do you want to end this? Because I don't even I don't know. I don't want in this. I could do this for the rest of the day. I love hearing Christine stories. I know they come back again until I know more of your funny stories because I think that they happen. We don't get to see enough of that. You really I love the hottie and not in the s**t. And like all this good stuff, all the good stuff in between. Like, we didn't even get to talk about your choreographing for the show that you're working on. Oh, yeah, well, I've been a yeah, I mean, I've been a choreographer for film and television for 15 years. I think that's something people don't even know about. Yeah, I mean, I was I started doing it. It was just like a random side hustle and I got pulled into a movie and then I just started to get hired from a bunch of other people. My name started to get passed around, and so I still do it. But it was really she worked on The Goldbergs for a long time. Yeah, so and that was the thing that really, I think, helped me transition to directing because I had been working on that show for six years. I wanted to. I wanted to change into, you know, doing more directing. And they were they all knew me at that point. So they were the ones that kind of gave me my first shot. And from there it started to now it's starting to snowball. So it's nice. It's really great. We're really awesome. Can you tell all the listeners where they can follow you? Because that's how I knew that she was directing is when you post and I'm just like, Oh my gosh, it's it's kind of annoying. I'm a girl, could you at all photos of Georgia? Gosh, yeah, that was a that was an amazing. Oh, that was cool. Yeah. You can follow me at Yo Laken Yo Laken on all my social and yeah, I post about my family, my career, you know, whatever I find interesting at the time. Not set, not set. Not usually in your pants. We'll give that just, oh my gosh, a lot of fun. I we've been trying to do this for months and I really appreciate you taking the time to come on the podcast. And I think that we should do it again. And if we, well, I would love to, we could combine what we can do like a worst ever podcast, which is the name of her show. Not not saying that it sounds really bad thing that I've talked over a couple of times, but I'm just letting our listeners know that is the name of her podcast. We're not calling it the word podcast, ever. All right, I'm Jessica. I'm Diana.