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00:39:38 1/26/2022

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What's up, Steve Austin fans? This is producer Sean Gee here back at you with something a little different. This week we've got the launch of a brand new podcast series from Motor Trend called The Inevitable. And it's hosted by two of Motor Trend's best head of editorial Ed Lowe and senior features editor Johnny Lieberman. And it's a brand new content series all about the future of mobility, the future of the car. Where are we going and how will we get there? They have an amazing list of guests up for their first season from this first episode which features actor comedian beatboxer Reggie Watts. They'll also have actor Sung Kang from the Fast and the Furious franchise. Actor James Marsden. You may know him as Cyclops from the X Men franchise or Teddy from Westworld and they have the godfather of the environmental movement himself. Ed Bagley Junior. I know Steve Austin is a huge car guy. He's restoring his classic Camaro now and I'm sure he's out there riding his kawasaki somewhere. So we figured you guys would also enjoy. So please enjoy the very first episode of The Inevitable from Motor Trend. Welcome to The Inevitable, a podcast by Motor Trend. Hi there. This is the Inevitable. This is Motor Trend's new podcast where we talk about evs cars without steering wheels, our hydrogen future and everything else that's coming down the road. In other words, where are we going and how are we gonna get there? We have an incredible show for you today with a Mr Reggie Watts. Really good guest. Uh Before then I am joined by Mr Motor Trend himself. The lowest of the low Ed Lowe. How are you doing, Ed? I'm fine. Thank you for having me on my own podcast. Uh Johnny, it's great to be here. Uh It is, it is good to be here and welcome everybody to the inevitable. This is, as Johnny mentioned on the future of mobility, Johnny would prefer, I say the future of the car. I was, we should have just called it the future of the car. The inevitable is a little cornball. But you know, that's just me. It's a great name because uh this is the inevitable podcast from Motor Trend, uh EVs electrification. It's all inevitable and that's what we're talking about. And I think actually, this is a really good year for us to be starting this podcast though because our big awards are of the year awards. This is really what motor trend is known for. If you watch the Super Bowl, you know, we give out Truck of the year Car of the year and guess what truck of the year and car of the year this year are EVs for the first time in our history. Motor trend's been giving out uh car of the year since 1949. Uh both car and truck of the year are evs and really SUV of the year is also an EV, the genesis, the genesis uh GV 71 our SUV of the year as a gasoline powered car. And then they didn't tell us they months later at the Guangzhou China Auto Show, they announced an EV version of that vehicle. It could have been the trifecta. Uh but no, instead it is really car and truck of the year, car of the year, the lucid air and truck of the year, the Rivian R one T so uh you know, watershed year from motor trend in terms of the awards we give but also uh really just in terms of interest. Um you know, as you know, Johnny's been around motor trends since 2010, July, 2010, 2010, which is three years, two years. Actually, we gave out our first car of the year to an electric car company in the fall of 2012. That was Tesla Model S and you and I were both in the room in the room in New York City with Elon when we, we, we were both on the Yes, we were both on the panel of the, one of the 11 judges that voted Tesla Model S car of the year. We've subsequently given uh the award to another electric vehicle manufacturer, General Motors, the Chevy Volt, Chevy Volt. Sorry, they gotta work on that name. Chevy Bolt, not the volt. We also give it to the volt volt and bolt. Um But yes, this is the third electric car. Uh Lucid Air, our car of the year electrified. Um And then again, Rivian big news, but what I was saying is we've seen a tremendous amount of interest in electric vehicles really, you know, up until honestly, 18 months or so ago, the only stories that would really get a lot of traffic on our website on Motor trend.com would be Tesla stories specifically Tesla product launches. We've been lucky enough to land a bunch of exclusives. We've got exclusive range testes Cyber truck model three when we did the long range uh model s and every one of those huge traffic numbers, every other ev like not a lot of interest for some reason. This year has been a watershed year. Uh We're gonna finish out, we finished out, sorry, I should say 2020 with seven of our top 20 stories uh electric vehicles. So including uh Lucid was one of them. We did. Yeah, I think your exclusive drive of the Lucid Air that was 21 right? And the 700 miles off-road electrically which is, which is super cool and the other manufacturer Ford F 150 Lightning. The story that we have in that massive store, of course, that's the number one selling F 150 is the number one selling vehicle in America. So that makes a lot of sense. A lot of interest there anyways, this, that's what, that's why, that's why we're here. We're talking about the inevitable, inevitable isn't only about electric vehicles, but that's really our starting point because that's what we have in front of us now. And, like, look, we've been, we've been told that, you know, cars are all gonna be electric for a while now. Well, it, it's, it's looking that way and there's a number of reasons why we've also been told that cars are gonna drive themselves. And that seems to be much, much more difficult, uh, than electrifying vehicle. But I was reading something interesting last night. Um, in 2010, when I started on motor, the, uh, cost per kilowatt hour of battery was 1200 bucks in 2021 100 and $32. And they're predicting by 2024 to get to the magical $100 per kilowatt hour. When that happens, it's just cheaper, just every, all in, it's cheaper to build an electric Corolla than it is to make a gasoline powered Corolla once you hit that $100 per kilowatt hour. And then Farley at Ford was saying they think by 2030 it gets down to $80 per kilowatt hour. Which mean that cars will be even cheaper to build in the future than they are now, which is kind of crazy if you think about it. But that this is this watershed moment, the, the inevitable to put it in uh the terminology of the show. Um you know, cause it just at the end of the day, remember the car companies, they wanna print cash, right? They want to make money and uh when it's more profitable to build an ev than it is to build a gas car, forget about the political pressures, the green pressure, any kind of other consideration, it's just like just straight capitalism, dollars and cents. You want to have electric vehicles because it's cheaper and you, yes and you, but you touch on a great point which is uh this isn't we, we did motor trend, did some research. We, we, we tend to do these studies or surveys every now and then. And we actually pulled our um our, our potential car consumers. We did a, we worked with a third party independent research firm asking car shoppers, what are you interested in? The subset of the question was on evs and the one of the key drivers, I think 58% of the people we polled said that climate change, environmental reasons were fueling their decisions to examine an electric vehicle, all that's fine and good. But to what you just said it actually doesn't matter because if you don't believe in climate change, if you don't believe it's real, it is real. But if you don't believe it's, it's irrelevant because companies have already taken a position and governments are taking a position on it. So again, all this is more fuel to why this whole, we feel like this whole thing, this whole shift that we're going through right now is inevitable. Uh And why we're also really looking forward to talking uh to our guest, Reggie Watts, who I did a bunch of research on. And, uh it turns out he is, I think a massive massive car guy hiding in plain sight on James Corden's show the band, the band. He's also not only a car guy, he's like a futurist, he's an incredible guy. I can't wait to talk to him. But, um, he's also like, kind of like where I'm finding myself these days. I don't know if you find yourself this way based on the cars you own. But like I got 1 ft in both worlds like I can II, I recently did a thing at the Peterson Museum for this, uh for O Mas where I was, you know, talking about the future of evs, but I'm looking at the cars I own, I don't own an EV I like my, I have an old, like you, I have an old, you know, gas guzzling in a sense. Porsche. Um and it's uh like, you know, so I, I mean, I wanna get his take on like what it's like to like love cars but also see the future. Yes. And, and do you find, let me ask you that though? Uh Do you find yourself struggling like you have just so everyone out there knows you have a, a 1987 land cruiser diesel from Canada and you have a 87 Porsche 930 turbo um like, but you're also this big ev advocate like, how do you, how do you reconcile this within yourself? Well, yeah, so look, the wife and I decided that the next car will be an EV I've told her, uh and it's gonna be her car. We're gonna have to get rid of. She has an Audi. Um We all, our cars are white. Um, they're all, they're all, they're all turbocharged. Uh Hers is an A three. Yeah, this is funny. I think the only thing we're missing is an all wheel drive white uh car because we have a Oh no, no, sorry. The land cruiser four wheel drive turbo diesel. The Porsche's obviously rear drive turbo and her Audi is front drive turbo. So we're missing a mid engine. I think that that's what I ended up with. Um, but yeah, we're, we got a kid now we need a probably a larger SUV. Um The honestly, the, the land cruiser and the Porsche are the personal cars that don't get driven the whole time. The p, the land cruisers for surfing the Porsche is when I have time for it. And then I have a, I have a car and also as I say, they're both appreciating assets at this point. So, yeah, I, I don't want the kids to college fund 100% college be free or, or $2 million. Depend on we were, I don't know what they told you when Evan was so probably should say his name. But when he was born, when my son Richard was born, they told us it would be $700,000 for a four year school. Financial planner told us I'm banking that, uh president, uh, oh, this is going to get me in trouble. Sasha Obama will make a college free at that point. So when my kids go to CV, you know, or they'll become plumbers, it's a smart thing to do. But to your point, to your point, yes. Uh evs are on, definitely on our, on our, on the personal um, agenda because uh, we just have to, it, we live in an area that's charging is not an issue. It makes a lot of sense. Uh All that and you're a homeowner and you could charge at your house because people that live in apartments it's tricky. Yeah, we, we'll get to all that on the show cause I'm finding myself my little, I have a little Ford Fiesta ST that blew up the other day, just like, I think the engine's toast and they quoted me like, you know, uh, 60% of the value of the car to fix it. So it's probably not gonna happen. And my wife is like, let's get an EV and, and for me though, like the, the one that, you know what I want is, is like, I want an electric G wagon at a slightly lower price. So maybe like when Rne does make a smaller two row type SUV, I want that. But I'm also like, should I buy one last gas car? Should I buy, should I buy the Jeep 392 and uh or the Cadillac ct, the CT five V black Wing. Yeah. II, I don't know if I can quite afford that but like, you know, because 392 I mean, was it 75? I could kind of swing it. But also that's, that's gonna hold its value, right? So you, you're spending 75,000, but when you go to sell it, that's, you know, you're getting at least that back. It's funny because the older I get, the more uh buying like a Viper or, or a pre first Gen Viper. Uh actually any of them maybe like a, like an AC R or, or um uh a corvette. Appreciate Corvette. Like just something big with a huge V eight manual just, just to have around when everything becomes, uh, quiet and smooth and electrified. Right? And that's a great question. Like, do you want both? And I, I don't know what, I, I don't know what I'm gonna buy. We, we have a list of 10. My wife crossed about four of them off. So I'm not getting a GT three for those of you sitting at home wondering, um, she said no to that, but she did not cross the Jeep off the list. So we might do that. But we also have some evs on there. Um, but yeah, it's, it's a, it's a really strange point in time right now because not only are evs getting better but like gasoline powered cars are still getting better. You know, that, that Jeep three and two, in my opinion is the best SUV I've ever driven unless you think of the Rian truck as an SUV, even though it's a pickup truck, we know that the eventual R one s will be the same thing. Like, boy, that kind of puts everything on the trailer, you know, like, and it's, uh, well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about why the, uh, the Rivian and the Lucid took home our, our, our top prizes. Uh, well, you're what you can tee up, um, the air, the Lucid Air. You spent a ton of time with them. Yeah, I had a really interesting experience. So I got, I was the first, uh, I've been to my knowledge was the first non lucid employee to drive it. Um And so I spent a Dan Angel's Crest with Peter Rollinson, who's the CEO and the CTO, the chief technical officer and uh former chief engineer of Tesla model, s former chief engineer of, of Lotus. And I didn't really realize that at the time, but he showed up wearing like, you know, racing booties, he was wearing like fireproof shoes and I was kind of like, all right, dude, that's a little much. And then, you know, we drove up Angela's Crest Road that I live right near it. I drive it at least once a week. We were flying, we were flying and, and he was falling, he was keeping up with me, he'd never driven the road before so the dude can drive. And he was telling me his dream for the Lucid Air was and pardon the pun, but he wanted uh an S class in terms of luxury and he wanted a lotus in terms of handling and he wanted like the most efficient, uh high performance ev possible. I don't think he quite got there in terms of lotus like handling. But like, man, if, if I told you, you're driving a GTR, you'd be like, this is like the new Nissan GTR. Awesome. Yeah, because it's hard to get lotus handling in a vehicle. It's gonna, it's, but then the next day we met at the Lucid's uh uh dealership or whatever you call it in Beverly Hills. We drove and they didn't plan this. They claimed they didn't plan this, but we drove a 409 mile route up to San Francisco. The uh EPA range for the Tesla Model S long range 405. So we beat that right out of the gate. First time anyone besides Lu had ever driven one, we beat, I beat that and then we left San Francisco, drove south to their headquarters in, near San Jose in New York, California. Another 36 miles. I wasn't trying to hyper mile. My car still had 30 miles of range showing his had 72 because he was like accelerating slowly and not being a, you know, jackass like I was and it was, it was mind blowing, you know what I mean? This was all before they came out with the EPA, this was before the EPA. So they, he had told me privately that he was looking at 517 miles of range EPA game 520. So, so that's one, you know, when we talk about uh our car truck suv the year awards, we have six criteria. We have value, safety, efficiency, engineering design and then performance of intent and function. How will the vehicle does its job? So John de un packed a ton of it right there. Uh Obviously engineering excellence is amazing um efficiency. I mean, there's no, it is the most efficient vehicle on the, that you can buy period, period in history. And by the way, the one I drove was 930 horsepower and there's one that's slightly less efficient that makes 1111 horsepower. So then you talk about, well, how does it do it job? Is an electric car? I think we just covered off. Uh, does it quite well? It's, it is, it is incredibly fast. I think uh the fastest version, 0 to 16, like 2.4 seconds. We haven't even tested it. No, we've only tested, we, by the way, we haven't tested a dream edition. We've only tested the grand touring. So the grand touring, which is only only 800 horsepower, you know what I mean? Is, is 2.4 like God knows what the, the 1000, you know, the, the, the four sticks version will do and they have a three motor version coming. I mean, it's just nuts, you know. So I mean that, I mean, the, the answers I think are, are pretty clear. Uh It was a and by the way, it was, it was a, it was a big win. Um The car we had, if we're candid wasn't, it wasn't perfect. It was, it had had some glitches mostly to the infotainment system connects us to be fair. I drove it, the infotainment system was down for the count. I mean, it was not and they said, yeah, and then they, you know, look, they were can, they're like, you know, how a radio works. Right. I'm like, yeah, they're like, we have a radio, like, ok, you know, ok, I get that. I get that. But, you know, it is still a, it is a historic achievement and it is a very, it's a very, uh, deserving winner. It is the first time Motor Trend's ever given, uh, car of the year award to a vehicle for their very first product. I would ask that because the model asked, yes, it was their second product. But that Roadster had nothing to do with anything, you know, technically, technically, technically. But yeah, same chief engineer, same chief engineer and I think people can be III I was a little skeptical uh until I drove it and then went on the same uh deep dive on the on the technology that you had up at the headquarters, we should actually talk about that. So their headquarters is like if Willy Wonka had a car company, it would kind of be like this place. But, but what I was saying is before going there, I was like Peter Rason. Yes, he was chief engineer. But this could be like is this is this just model s version 2.0 with a different and uh at first glance, you might say, well, you know, they made it a little more efficient. It's the same package. It's a five seat luxury sedan, you know, but when you see how they did it and what they did, uh, it is absolutely mind blowing. I mean, they, they show, they'll walk you through and they'll show you like, this is the original Tesla model s, uh, motor package and it's this big and it's impressive. And it's gotten that company this far. Oh, and then they'll show you the, the model three and the model y that motor and inverter package. And it's like, you know, a little smaller, a little less powerful, smaller, a little smaller, more efficient. And they actually were like uh credit to them this, the, the being able to produce this and put it into seal production. This is a big deal. It's a phenomenal unit and then they show you the one in the air, in the, in the, in the air and it, sorry, in the dream. And it is um, yeah, sorry in the, in the air. And it is tiny. I mean, the, the party trick is they pull up, uh they can pull it out of a 22 inch standard roller board, uh a suitcase and that the motor transmission in all together and it's 300% more powerful 295 than whatever Tesla has. Um And then you go and they can do the same party trick with the batteries. Everything is more efficient. I mean, the one I tell people about is the headlights like they have five people with phd S working on headlights and, and you know, your car, uh, if you're listening, you have two bulbs that take your headlights, they have 9000 little Matrix led s that like, work like an insect's eyes. And because it's like, as thin as, you know, I don't know, it's about two inches thick or even smaller, maybe it makes the front that much bigger. So if you look at like a, like a Mercedes s class headlight, it's 18 inches deep. This is maybe, maybe two inches deep. So you get that much more storage space up front and, and it uses that much less electricity, making it more efficient. And they're, they're more aerodynamic than any other car and on and on and on. The fact that it's all, it's all led s and it's basically just the light and then some software. Uh, here's the thing. If you want to get the highest rating. According to the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety, the IHS, you need smart headlights, you need headlights that are super bright cast. Uh You know, a lot of clarity on the road ahead, but also will turn around corners. Luc it's found a way to do it through software. So they don't actually have a physical motor. There's no motor, there's no motor, there's nothing that moves the head, turn on lights that point left because they're miniaturized. It's totally bizarre. It's totally cool. And then the, the review we should talk about, you know, we obviously did this, uh, stunt for lack of a much more elegant term where we drove 7700 miles across America on the trender trail. All electric, charge them up every night, all or almost all off road. Yeah, basically off road. Um, and, uh, that vehicle, you know, it's not as efficient, but it's revolutionary for motors 1st, 1st vehicle, first electric vehicle out there on the road that has a motor at each wheel. And that was, to me was game changing. And if I, if I can quote Frank uh Marcus here, he's our, he's our technical director at motor trend. He said it best and you guys can go watch this video. Um He said that what, what, what you realize after off roading in the Rivian is that, you know, having low gears transfer case and all that stuff. It, it, it, it's a band aid on a terrible power train. Uh internal combustion is horrible for off-road because what you want is like not to go that quickly. Uh And you want massive torque. Well, guess what? Evs as we know, they make peak torque before they even start spinning. So you, you know, in like a really powerful we, we, we brought the RMT Rx along as a support vehicle and in that it makes a ton of torque, but you gotta like goose the motor. So suddenly you're flooring it then slamming on the brake, then flooring it to get over a rock, then slamming on the brake. The Rivian just like, elegantly just like, you know, glided over these obstacles. And, you know, I always say like, you know, Sean Holman, who's, who's our, um, he's our four wheel expert at, at the company, let's just say, and I was texting him because he drove the wave after me. I'm like, dude, this is gonna blow your mind. You're not gonna believe this. And he was so skeptical. Even Sean was like, yeah, that's really good. It's a, as a clean sheet design. Like you really can't do better in terms of for the mission at hand of off roading like battery, some software, a motor at each wheel, really smart suspension, really smart air suspension, diagonally link dampers, hydraulic dampers from mclaren from, well, same suppliers mclaren. But yeah, super cool. But what I love is, you know, because the wave I was on, we started in Georgia and you know, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas Deep, deep South. And people would see and you know, it's a, it's a different looking truck to put it politely. It's, you know, it's kind of like this weird French anime looking thing. People walk up, what is it? We talk to them and they, first of all, they all kind of like the size because they're all, everyone in the south has a monster pickup truck and they're kind of bummed out about it cause they're just enormous. And then you know, they're looking, they're thinking how, how, how, how's the range? And then you go blah, blah, blah, also 835 horsepower. Like your truck make your, your raptor makes like, you know, 410 or whatever it made 450. This is 835 and they're just like what? And you could see their minds changing in front of you like, wow, that's cool. And then, and then you pull the camp stove, the kitchen out of the side, the $5000 option induction range with a sink, uh, sink, powered sink. You can like power off your dirty dishes. It's, it's brilliant, but that isn't why we picked our truck of the year we invited. Oh, boy, it was actually a fairly large field this year. The Maverick was right there. We had the Hummer. Uh, we had the new Toyota. Um, we had Nissan, we had, we had the Nissan Frontier. Uh, we had Ranger trimmer, uh, a bunch of traditional, we had Raptor, you know, a bunch of traditional gasoline powered pickup trucks along with the, uh, the only other EV was the Hummer, uh EV truck and it really kind of, I don't think it was close. It blew everybody away. I think the Maverick that had a good show actually. Remember there's that hybrid Maverick 42 miles a gallon and it really, really good vehicle. So, hats off to Ford but yeah, I mean, the Rivian is just like, it's just like next level thing it's here. Here's how good it is. Tesla just announced their, if they ever make it, the separate truck is gonna be four Motors because I'm sure they got one of the first ones. And in fact, I remember Rivian telling me that, like, we know Tesla bought one because we know we know where they're going and they're like, oh, man, this is game changing, you know, you gotta have those four. And I'll tell you, the one thing I was very interested in is that Rivian is focusing so much on the off road performance of this truck. Um, and I'm like, you know, from what I understand about the truck market and talking to a lot of people, well, a lot of people don't go off road, like, you know, and it is so good on road and it's like you guys, I mean, there's, they are, you know what they call air haulers. Like a lot of truck owners never put anything in the bed, never tow anything with it, never take it off road or if it's off road it's on a fire. And, and now Wilson, the other amazing thing to me about that truck was that, you know, there, there's like an economy mode and what that one does is actually like, declutters the rear motor. So you're just in a front wheel drive vehicle still 410 horsepower by the way in front wheel drive only. And it's fine to drive like it was, you know, a lot of times if you put a, like a gasoline powered car in an eco mode, it's just, there's a throttle response and this was, this was killer, you know. So they, they did really clever savvy engineering on, on, uh, you know, again, not, they didn't focus on efficiency. They're not building their own battery packs, they're not, you know, spinning their own motors up with the way loose. It is. But I think they were innovative in a different way. Uh You know, they, they didn't make the model as part two. They made something, no, the world had never seen before. And I think part of the duty of awarding an of the year award is like recognizing that the high water, we, we try to award a high water mark for the industry. Uh It's worth noting for those who might be sort of not familiar with it. It is not every car under the sun every year that we look at. Yeah. So I'm sorry, your corvette didn't win Corvette isn't new this year, right. So it is only the, the vehicle in their, their launch year. Their, their very first uh have been significantly updated. We tend to, that means like a new power train, new transmission and engine, you know, something like that. So, yeah. Um but yeah, it was, I think we did well. And again, the genesis, I wish we would have known a little bit about this, but like they have a GV 70 we can give them a shout out because, uh, their vehicle honestly was probably the, the biggest win. It is the toughest, toughest, uh, segment in terms of overall number of competitors. SUV, huge vs, have taken over the world. So there was a dominant species in our 2022 SUV, the year competition, there was, there were many more competitors than either car or truck. And honestly, once people got into that vehicle and drove it, it was like this is it, this is why are we doing? Why are we doing this? Like this one is so much, so much better and now you can have it as an EV, which is a great segue into our guest who I got the sign that he showed up. So we're going to talk to Mr Reggie Watts. I'm super excited about this and I'm super excited about the inevitable. Show. Me too. Can't wait to chat with him and uh hope you guys all enjoy our interview with Reggie. Hi, Reggie. Very exciting to have you here. Um Before we get started, Ed has actually prepared a dossier on you. This is like this is like uh opposition research. But I want to start by saying that he's got a one year old, so he has no idea what I'm about. To say I have a four year old. You're on Story Bots. You did the DNA episode? I've seen that 7000 times. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's funny now just starting to hear from all my friends. I have kids. They're like, oh, you're on story. It's kind of cool. It's the best, it's the best kids show. It's incredible. Well, how about for the people who don't know what it is? It's like an educational show, but it's actually, like, really well done, really, actually good music. And, uh, you mean you talk about, you did the DNA where, you know, the bots asked, what is, why do people look different? The title of it? Which is such a great, I mean, what a great thing for kids to learn about, you know? Um, you know, I've just popped in for my one bit but, um, you know, everybody that runs the show, they're all like kind of music nerds. Um, you know, and they love, like, they have really good taste in music and they just wanted, you know, they had kids and they have like an idea to make a really cool show that was based off of their idea of what a kids show should be, which I think is story bots. At least from all my gen X friends are all just like, it's a dope show and I'm like, ok, good. Uh, it's, it's a show. You could actually watch, like Snoop Doggs on it. I mean, it's, it's great, you know, it's like, it's like all these people you grew up with and now they're doing this good kid show and, and, and again, the music is actually decent where most, you know, kids show music is like this horrible never ending earworm of Death Glock and Spiel City. I love that. That's how we're starting this, uh, this interview. I just have to, we were, we were, I was just like, what they said is gonna be a guest. I was like, you know, I don't really watch the late show and I'm like, no, no, no, I don't. I don't, I mean, I'm there on tapes. I pass out on the couch every night at 925. You know, a kid wakes me up, but we do watch on the weekends we watch TV and Story Box he's obsessed with and that's hilarious. Yeah. Well, we are here with Reggie Watts who is on the late show with James Corden, the late, late show, the late late show, uh, actor, comedian, musician, beatbox, beat boxer story bots. Uh V great hair. Look like Jerry Seinfeld. Hi, guys. This is my Jerry Seinfeld impression. Hello? That's pretty good. I'm on, I'm on a podcast with him. So this is what he sounds like. It's not at all. Not even I can do it. I, I really can't, but I've gotten that before. Yes. So why are why are you here with us? Is that you're also a huge, and I'm gonna say huge because I did a lot of research and I think you're a huge, you're a huge car guy. You're a huge car fan and you're kind of, uh you're kind of a stealth car fan. I feel like I kind of dug through your Instagram and I noticed that you post a lot of random pictures of cars without saying anything about it. You just kind of put it out there and it's a lot, some of it's sort of Detroit iron, but there's some foreign cars in there. They're all kind of vintage. And then you do a lot from your own car, from your personal car. And I've read some interviews where you've uh talked about vehicles you've been in, you had a famous moment with Jack Black apparently in a, in a Tesla. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yes. That's right. So this is, and then we heard from the fine folks at PodcastOne that you're also a big Porsche guy and you, and we're trying to figure this out. You currently own a turbo S turbo S Yeah. And uh 9 11 C four s 992. Ok, great. C four S we had it down as a turbo si have a Ts on the way it should be here in a few months. And now you want to ask him why he didn't get a GT three I'm not going to say anything like that. No, no, I actually ordered one. I had an allocation for a GT three touring. Um, well, I thought the touring was stealth. You know, it's like, I'm kind of like the guy that, you know, it's like, I have friends that are like, you know, car people and I just, I don't like a bright look at me. Sports car because it's like, do you want more sports car on your already sports car? So for me it's the opposite. I like it. I like it being subdued but like people kind of do a slow double take and they're like, what is it? 00, that's awesome. Instead of like, you know, so is that why you got, and is it, did you get chalk? What, what pain did you have for the, for the ty? I got a coffee beige. That's what it was. I was looking at the picture. I was like, is it chalk or is it coffee beige? I wasn't sure about it because, you know, like when you look at those color palettes online, it's hard to tell. Really. You got to see a car in sunlight, sunlight's the only way to look at a car. Everything else is like, you don't really see the color, not at all, not even close. This was like the most obscure. Like, I couldn't figure it out at all and I like, Chuck. Chuck was great, but Chuck's also an older color. And so all my, I was saying it to a bunch of my friends like, what would you think? Beige or whatever? And usually I was a white white car guy, especially with Tesla when I used to have Teslas. But so I got the beige and it is just, it gets so much attention. What does white car guy mean to me? So 39% I know we're all, we'll get to that in a minute. But, um, uh, you know, BASF told me 39% of new cars globally are white. So to me it's like the like anyways, why, what, what's, what's attractive about white cars? Well, for me, in California, you got, you got smog, you know, you get that air pollution and you got heat and so for me it's heat rejection. Um, and, uh, keep the car cooler, uh, better for the paint and all that stuff. And also it's an electric car. You wanna keep it cool anyways. And then on top of that, uh, it stays cleaner, it looks clean. Yes, that's actually I'm lazy and white cars taking notes about the, oh, yeah, there's water spots, everything, very other colors, relatively cool. But, um, all right now, so, uh, you own a very sporty gasoline powered car and a very sporty electric car. Uh, how do you, how do you feel about both? How do you feel about either? How do they compare, how do they contrast. Well, I mean, you know, I, I had a Tesla, I think the first car I had here in L A was a Tesla, uh P 85 and then got a P 100 later. But, um, you know, it's like I wanted, I wanted, well, Porsche was a brand that I'd always in growing up in the eighties. You guys would know about this, this way, way before your time. But um in the eighties, I think he's older than you. No, no, no, no, no, we are all within five years. I think so. Yeah, forever man matters. Um No, but um yeah, so like when I, when I, I guess I was interested in Porsche but, but in the eighties, it was always represented as like the the hole in a, in a teen comedy, like always drove a Porsche. So Porsche had this kind of like douche bag kind of vibe to that. I held on through all the way through the nineties and then everyone was always like Porsche. There's no substitution for, you know, Porsche drive. It's a driver's car, driver's car, driver's car. I was like, did you guys shut up about driver's car? What does that even mean? And then I drove a, uh I, I ordered a Porsche cause IIII I got a gig and I was interested in the 992 because of the technology. Like I was really going deep on like, oh what do they do for design? It's a whole new generation, blah, blah. And I was like, I, I really wanna dig it. And one and one of my friends had a, has a Cayman, uh, one of the guys that, one of the producers of the show. So, got it. And then, and, and I, I purposefully did not drive a Porsche until I got that, that 911. Then I got it and it just blew me away. I understood immediately. I was like, oh, I can feel the texture of the road through the wheel, which was insane to even think about. And, and I, and every move I made, it just felt like I was the car and then I, I got it. I was, oh, this is Cyborg. This is like, this is your career four S, that's the career for the CC four S. So that was my first Porsche. Ok. So you're relatively new to the brand. I'm pretty new to the brand. Like I've had that one for, let's say, two years. And then, uh and then of course, the Ty came around and I just told myself if I get a good gig, if I get a sweet gig, I'll get a Tic turbo s because I don't want to do the lower end. I got the C four S because I was like, oh, well, that's because the way I spec it, it almost is the price of a turbo s anyway. Yeah, just wait, you spec your turbo s, oh, my God. Yeah, it's done. It's on its way. But I was like, oh, I'll do the C four S because everyone was like, no, it's a great car and most people are like, it's more car than you need. Oh, but you need the turbo. So don't listen to anyone. But let's pause here for a second because, ok, so you, you previously, when you first came to L A, you had a sort of like a 2013, 2015 P 85 Tesla model sp 85. Ok. And then you move on to 100. Any other evs of note or vehicles of note prior to that you grew up in Montana? I had att Rs before that. Yeah. So, well, I had the TT Rs in conjunction with the, uh, so I always had a gas car and an electric car but my electric car is the primary driver, TT Rs. But for those listening, that's a cool five cylinder turbocharge, Audi phone car. I was called like my first super car. That's kind of what it was for me too. Yeah. Ok, so then, all right. So we talked through the 992. Now tell us cause you, you're a, I assume you, you enjoyed your time with Tesla. You really like the model s, what's the difference moving in the Porsche and then into TIC in particular? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I love, I love the s because I love the autopilot. You know, I was probably, you know, one of the, the idiots that used it 70% of the time, you know, even back then I just loved it. I love that idea of being on the road and being able to not be focused constantly, like on a bumper to bumper, stop and go Beverly Boulevard Drive from work or whatever, aside from stoplights, which you had to, it did not recognize. Um, it held the road really well. So I really enjoy that. So then going to, to the teon um it doesn't have that it has in a drive. I, I got in a drive. Um It, it does some steering but it's mostly just keep your hands on the wheel just to relax the drive. But I will say that the feeling between both of those cars, one, the Tesla feels like uh like a souped up golf cart, like, like it just, it goes really fast. Uh And it, it, but it doesn't, there's no feeling to it. There's no connection to the road really. It's just, uh it's more like a, it feels digital like you're a video game character in the real world. And um the Ty feels like it's like a mountain goat, it feels planted to the ground. Um Again, you get that road tactility that for that feeling through the wheels all the way through the steering wheel. Same steering wheels in 992. Which is, to me the perfect size. Oh, my gosh. And everything. So, and it just feels like a precision. It's like a scalpel, um, as opposed. And I know that the, you know, the plat or whatever is ridiculous. And, um, but it's still not a driver's car. The plat to me is not really a driver's car. They're catching up. They're like, oh, what else do drivers like? Oh, I guess we'll add these carbon ceramics. Oh, what else do drivers like? They, they're thinking that way. Reverse engineer it almost. Yes, exactly. It's reverse. Whereas Porsche is just like, listen, infotainment system will be very confusing and it won't be as fast and you know, but the most important part, the drive, he has a Porsche, you know, the driving, if you like what you hear and you want to keep listening, hop on over to motor trends, the inevitable for the remainder of this first episode and the remaining episodes to come, like I said, they have an amazing list for this first season. They have Sung Kang from the Fast and the Furious Franchise. They have James Marsden Cyclops or Teddy from Westworld. The Steve Austin Show Classics will resume later this week with Dave Milliken, the Ace of Belts and John Cena

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