REWIND: Jay Van Bavel - Groupthink, Social Identity, and Cult Psychology

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PodcastOne presents the Steve Austin show classics, and now here is me and my brother, Jeff laying it down. I don't know. Never before been done. What is it? A record about this New Year's Eve that had a broken skull recently and my younger brother, Jeff Williams, it played a couple of tunes on his guitar. Jeff Dad got to play guitar many years ago and came to watch from band our entire lives. And remember when our parents got a divorce and mom moved out of Victoria's, got me and Kevin and she met Ken Williams. Your dad and Jennifer's dad managed to drag us all over the place to his dance. Jobs aren't part of the Mustangs can wave to the southern areas of other bands. And then so you came out and you're forty five now, and it just seems like you're about 15 years younger and then be back in the day. I know I was five years younger and I just turned the big five. Oh, what got you excited about playing guitar? And what was it because you got genetic from dad? I think I I've always liked music when I was 12 years old. That's when Dad taught me how to do it, you know, just sat me down. Show me where some of the chords were and taught him my first songs. He told me he'd write out the verses, songs with big, big chord change of each word, and I just went from. There was a big chord. You played the guitar, right? But he was like an old school chord guy because he does a lot. Of course, a lot of guys don't do it anymore. Yeah, I mean chords and you know, the names of them. He just he knows what it kind of is. But some stuff that he makes up sounds great. But how are you playing every day these days? I imagine you break out a guitar because back when you live right outside of Houston, Galveston, little town called Santa Fe, he was in a band. Y'all played some clubs and stuff like that. Yeah. So you're playing pretty regularly. So now you live in Alaska, you're working out there as a carpenter, you're not picking up the axe as much. You still plan it. Could you write some songs, too? Yeah. How much you play the guitar? I'll play every day now. I mean, hour two, it just depends how much time I got. Sometimes it maybe four five minutes play one song run over one song in particular. I have it on my stands and sitting right there in the living room, I can walk by and pick it up. Sometimes I'll sit down strums you, cause sometimes I'll play for, you know, an hour, right? But I'll play every day. Back when I was in the band, I played bass in the band. Actually, I didn't really. Why were you playing the bass? Because our guitar player, I mean, that all started when I was still living in Edna. Ben joined They happen to be looking for a bass player, and I came in as a guitar player, which I wasn't ever really good at lead. I just rhythm and a bass player quit asking me to switch over and I did it and I liked how different this works. From rhythm guitar to bass, because here is my story. I told him many times I wanted to teach me how to play guitar, but I didn't apply myself. I didn't practice because I don't have a musical genetic. I did OK in athletics. So then I figured, OK, I play bass guitar because it's too loud strings. It'd be easier, you know, right? And they knew how to play bass, too. So, dad, yeah, we went down to the music store, Victoria and a blind guy around to get around a music store. You remember his name? I can't remember names lose. Yeah. So I bought about a bass guitar from blue, and that bass guitar called me $275 about more money. I used Dad's amp as a dad who was going to teach me how to play, and I never played myself like that either. So I gave it up, and I was back in the day when Kool and the Gang had ladies night and I started out there. That was the only thing I could play on that day. A bass guitar was opening two notes of Ladies Night from Kool in the Gang, and then mom and dad would buy me a drum kit because the too loud. Yeah, and I couldn't sing. So my dreams of being a rock and roll star were killed, so I turned into a professional wrestler. So back to the question how easy or how hard was it for you to learn how to play bass? I it was easy because the bass is actually a little bit easier as far as notes and chords goes. But what separates good bass players from people that just played the notes I can hang in there is knowing the techniques and knowing everything there is to know about the bass and the things you can do on it to sound more professional and and to do the things, you know. But there's a lot of guys, I mean, some of the bad a*s players pleasure because you got you traditional, you know, some country ba*s. And I mean this with all due respect, dah dah, dah dah dah dah. But then you got the other guys like Pletely and Paul McCartney and all the different runs that those guys do, and it's a whole different level. Like one of the guys, you know, I want to get some only boys, Ringo mad as a bass player. Very nice. Know these guys like to set themselves apart because yeah, I get that. Sometimes I'll tell you, I played bass in a country band. They're like, We've got to be the Bourne's job. There is all bow down. Although, you know, there's other things you can do. You've got to feel your way through it. Throw in your licks where you do, right? I've had people calling me saying, You know, I like what you're doing over there and you're not just doing, you're not just doing that, you know, and making it sound pretty good. So what's the relationship? Because, man, I always wanted to be a musician, a good bass player and a drum. Other basic what was. That was the engine of it, right? Yeah. Well, it always clicks between the drummer and the bass player. Is there basically can't do in the same rhythm. So a lot of times, especially in country music, when you're doing it, any time that bass drum is hitting until you're hitting notes on the ba*s. You write the bass basically follows the bass drum and that leads to the beat and the that's one of the other things that I enjoyed about playing the bass once I get into it. You know, it's kind of set apart from being another guitar player, because if you can't play lead guitar, if you're not a bad a*s lead guitar player playing rhythms kind of kind of sucky, you know, right? Because you just start, of course. But the bass line is still I see what you're saying from a from a player's standpoint, but from a person who's listening, you got to have I mean, there is that added dynamic to the rhythm guitar to play that in the film? Yeah, there is. But you know, it's just something I started enjoying playing the bass and liking that bottom it boom that that bass feel, you know, I've always like ba*s. So now when you play and you play, you know, just on your own, are you just you playing rhythm? You you doing lead? Yeah, I play mostly rhythm, and I've learned a little bit of Leeds as a because I practiced so much and I'm starting to figure out leads a little bit. OK, here's a question for you. You've been playing guitar now for twenty years. Yeah, right from my get, give or take. So is there a ceiling to how good you can be depending on how much you apply yourself? Because can anybody be a Stevie? Ray Vaughan is one of my favorite artists of all time. I know you can work hard to put the time in, right, but it's almost like I wanted to be a pro football player at one time. My talent, as much as I want to do my talent or my body wouldn't get me there. Is it the same with being on the guitar? I think I think it is. I think it is because there's probably a handful of those guys that they can just and just absolutely kill it. Yeah. You know, and and there's guys that have the talent but may not have the extreme talent. Take them to the very top. Like, like, like few people do. I mean, otherwise everybody be doing it, you know? Yeah. Well, it is easy. Everybody can do it. So what was the deal when you live in Santa Fe? Like, how is it going to have to go out and cause it's interesting, like back in the day, there's still a big kiss fan and it's interesting how those four. Guys came together. Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Peter Greste and his family and together, you know, ace and Peter, you know, had some issues and they tapped out and they always replaced them. But it's just the dynamic of four guys or three guys. If you like Lost Only Boys or Steve Ray Vaughan, shut up or triumph, you know, three man bands. But so like, how do you fall in with guys when you are still living in Texas? Yes, I hey. I think we would work good together. Yeah. Well, the first man I joined, I happened to move there and it was a guy I was working with. His brother in law was in a band and they happened to be in the bass player. I don't. I live in Santa Fe a month just because I needed one as a yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, I said, Hey man, I can play bass and this guy. I went audition at his house with, you know, like, you know, like, it's a big deal. And this guy was auditioning me being his garage band. But I never saw the audition go well. I'll never forget it, man. He played a few songs on a CD and on his guitar. He didn't have the whole band there. And I just plugged along with that kind of stuff, and he asked me if I could sing. I say, you have to sing a little bit. He said, What are you seeing? I said, Well, I knew the dance by Garth Brooks. He goes, I hate Garth Brooks, and I'm like, Well, f**k, there goes my, you know, way Syrian down the lane. And the next day he called me and offered me the job and he started out. I mean, you know, we were we were one of the hottest bands in Santa Fe in that whole area for a while. Man, we had a real good group and it just it took over the day with Garth Brooks, so people love him. Some people hate that. Do people hate because you got so successful? I thought, Man, the guy, you know, I'm a George Strait guy. Merle Haggard kind of way to George Jones. Keith Whitley. George Strait is my number one guy, but I mean, I got to get the respect you got. Brooks, his favorite was George Strait guy. I know the dude kicked a*s. You sold out a lot of rings. Are you still doing it? What are some of? So many people dislike him because he put on a show. He wasn't pop. I wouldn't say it was Bob. What's your take on that? I wouldn't pop. I think the notion that I like some of this stuff, some of his older stuff, I do, and I could say that about a lot of people that are like all of their stuff. Yeah, but you know what I mean, as a performer, I never talked to him. But right now I recognize his talent and I'm like a guy like, I never really got into the WHO. I never was a gigantic LED Zeppelin fan, and I never was a Rolling Stone fan. Those three of the biggest bands that ever was, and they didn't really do much for me. Anyway, speaking of Garth Brooks, you do. You do the dance? Yeah. How about Greg and I went out. All right. Play one. Looking back. Only men and women. Dance, we shall. Stars of every moment. All those. How could I have no. Good. That. But. I. Better. Could a minister be? Would. Get. Only in new. I feel everything. More and more. The man accused. This fight on the whole. Now, the key word for. And. Climate change. No way at all when you weigh it all. Better left. I care, Mr. Jeff, good miss the pain that affected me, the. Dennis. Oh. Yeah, letting go for the long term, and we've got a two year old baby also freeze over building blocks and all kinds of stuff. So if have a baby in the background of my little me, Sophie, over here from Alaska, they have a broken skull ranch heading back out tomorrow. The. That's some site. Seems like a ghost town. Raindrops on. The war. Hit back with some real. Road. Neverland is burning up house calls for sale. Paced by the telephone, we food. Asking for me. Oprah, she's loved, right? Gray and. Get them out. Thunder. Then the lightning strike. I'm a freak some. It's a storm move. The Thunder. When he pulls into the driveway. Rushes out, told by police. The wind and rain is strangely perfect. Lightning flashes her eyes. He knew that she. Thunder rules. The lightning strike. We're honestly with not. It is a stopover. Not only. I've been working on it for years. Yeah. Well, Jeff is playing the Thunder. I went into the kitchen, got me some this American born moonshine apple pie 83. Well, I tell you what, this stuff goes down with pretty much every working man. I've got a jam session here going on my mother, Jeff Williams and from Alaska. Jeff, what you watch, where your favorite song to play now? I don't have a favorite. Which one on your song? We're so sorry. The song the one you wrote. Oh yeah, I've got some new songs now. No play that old favorite group of violence because I like that one. Oh my man. Getting back to your question, though. What's my favorite song to play? I mean, that's a very hard question to answer. There's a lot of good songs on. I can't really say Beethoven's Ninth that I have a favorite one. That is one thing. Call my wife right now I'm, but we can make an award winning podcast. Well, Beethoven's ninth is a great song. I liked his fifth better. But yeah. Yeah, dude. I can't believe you won a bigger Stevie Ray Vaughan fan than you are. I'm a fan of his ability. I'll tell you that. But yeah, the blues kind of gets repetitious to me. It gets where it kind of all sound gets some of the guitar licks do indeed sound the same a lot. But yeah, and I don't mean I don't. I feel that. Yeah, he did. And what is Billy? Because, you know, being a musician, even you're not a musician, but you know, you know, he was a bad somebody. Yeah. And then again, you know me not being a guitar aficionado, I mean, there's a lot of, you know, people playing scales and all and everything is what it is. But anyway, let's get let's get back to the song that we want to do you like. All right. No, no, no. It's the one that you like. Try to go. And I think it's a great song when I play it. Swigging moonshine But a man is married to the woman who walked out, brought in a married brother and even tried to make a podcast, you know, playing a guitar in yokuslu. John? Durable, long, long way from home. Searching for. Do think. That terms are falling on my statement. We're going to go. Now, don't. And. What? With me out in the country. Looking back at the love we had for see. What exactly? Long days and lonely nights. All. Erect into. Now you've got real life. Was never a true. Game. Well, I don't. We. Lack. So long. You. And. Oh. Now you and always make a hell of a tag team when you guys get together and now Elmo. Jennifer's daughter of a toddler, so how to play guitar in that she seems like a damn angel. So believable her voice? Yeah, I had a musical ability. I think your dad is my stepdad, but we never bring the step into the equation when talking about our family. Technically, you may have brothers, but we never look at it like that and always give them so much credit for marrying my mother when she moved because she had three hell raising kids, and then she met Kim Williams and then married him. And I remember walking my dad in the woods many years ago, and it was Scott, and it'd be me. It'd be Kevin. And we were always stepping on every stick that you could step on, and my dad was perpetually looked behind. And, you know, with that finger in front of his face, like, God damn it, you all be quiet. Yeah. And you got us, you know, hunting. And to this day, we had Broken Skull Ranch. And that's going to be eighty this year, and you're 60 and you're going to be 80 years old. And he beat cancer 10 11 years ago. He taught me how to me, you know, tell me what he taught me everything I know and give him my values know we were all of that many times. What was the biggest lesson dad passed on to you? Or what was some of the things that you got out of dad being your father man? Just the value of always being there, man. Dad was always being there for everybody, man, no matter what you wanted, support, no matter what you wanted to do. But he always told me, Oh Steven, he goes, We're going to do something right the first time, so you ain't got to come back and do it again. Mm hmm. And his other favorite saying was, Steve, don't ever half a*s anything. Don't do something the wrong way. Yes, sir. That was a couple of things he'd always told me. Yeah, and I was done by. And I remember like, you know, you know, being a running back, you know, dad was a running back Rice University in Houston, Texas. Now to anybody that's of any age, just sit back. And Rice was a South Coast Conference powerhouse and coach by just kneeling. He was. He got a scholarship to playing for the Oakland Bulldogs, won over Rice University and was one of the star running backs. And I was running back in high school and you know, he'd always, you know, give advice or sometimes get real good games about that game. But he was always there. He would never want him dead. You hear about people on TV these these days and they get on their kids too much, pushing too hard and too fast. And that was just like, Man, if I had a good game or game, you know that my own bag was a good job. You know the best. She's good. That's it. I was always out of a man. He just left out of here. We had some issues going on back down there, Edmonds, we had to leave. I was hoping to record both you guys playing guitars and it wasn't a good song. You guys you have. Oh, there's another cover that you like doing was kind of weird is since I've started writing, I've kind of gotten away from playing cover songs. Well, what's the latest greatest one and that you wrote? Did you dig right now? There's a song called A In My Arms. Hey, I'm coming right back on to take a pause for the cause. And let's hear a few words from our sponsors, the people to keep the show on the air for free. Going back with my brother Jeff Williams and line in my arms, coming right back. You're listening to another classic episode of the Steve Austin show only on PodcastOne. All right, here we are, Jeff Williams in here in the White House announcing the happiest woman in the world and one of my best joke of all time. All right, Jeff Landmark's. Although the song One Day is a guy, one of the lyrics was that this girl was lying in his arms, all cozy and cuddly, you know, 11 and everything, and something just hit me like that to switch that around a little bit. You know, so it's like, come up with. Like you. Being something. To me. I'm the only. I think it might. Just don't feel. I mean, that means no. They. Thank you. Stuff like. How long has it been? Yes, you. Thank you. No. Canopy. Don't. We have to say it's better to have loved in our lives, but never to blow that off. I guess they didn't know. The dancer who got it from. Now and. Straight line. He. My. Nine. And right, I agree with that. Hey, hey, take me to the songwriting process. Certainly, they want a piece of paper guitar where you do it. Well, a lot of times these thoughts and ideas and phrases are coming your head when you're just like washing dishes or something, you know? And that's what you got to shut everything down and go grab a piece of paper because that whole thing is in your head. It's out and you forget you got to start writing these ideas down. And sometimes I'll sit down and come up with a little riff and all of a sudden as a good idea for someone. So. But most times, what I found myself doing is come. I'll come up with the chorus first and then kind of build around that because a lot of the things that pop into my head when I'm just driving down the road or if I'm at work or whatever are mostly like lines for a chorus, right? You know that mostly most of the time includes the title of the song, and it's down the other. And I'll go, I'll start with it and work your verses around that right? I've been playing the guitar for a long time and never even thought I thought about writing songs, and all of a sudden one day I just sat down and started doing it, and I was hearing a lot of times. The guy was at a year that had died, and I've suddenly had that idea hit him and he got a napkin out of the napkin holder and said, I wrote the song in 10 minutes. Mm-Hmm. And then on a on a similar note, but out of the way, somewhere, nobody else. Sometimes I would be writing down a road back in the day when I was still wrestling. But I think about a good idea for a T-shirt. By looking at a billboard or something like that. So I take these paper, write it down. So I didn't forget it because I know how many times and I bet you've done it before. I thought of a good idea to do something. And then I said, OK, I just remember that in the morning I wake in the morning, I'll remember. Yeah. And you read it. You probably had an idea for a song and forgot it as well. Oh yeah. And then you kill yourself for not or not able to get somewhere and write it down or whatever. And and sometimes sometimes I've had it come back to me and it works out for me. So then who? Who do you think would be OK? And maybe not people that influenced you, but who do you like to listen to? What what were some of the biggest country music stars that you enjoyed hearing? I mean, George Strait, Merle Haggard, Neil, some guys we've been talking about Alan Jackson or I like him, Alan Jackson, or he writes, most of all, most of all, his own stuff. And he just kind of true to a honky-tonk country music because, you know, from what I like, you know, of course, I was back in high school and everything else in heavy metal. You know, Motown, everything from Metallica to Iron Maiden to whatever deal all the bad guys like getting and bands like that. And as I got older, I kind of switched over to country music. What's the music scene in Kodiak, Alaska, and what averaging Hougaard wasn't getting the band out there. And as a small town small town, there's not really a whole lot of places to play around there. But is it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I miss. I miss a lot. What do you like about being on stage? Me being in a ring? You know, I was, you know, dealing with the crowd, you know, working a crowd put on a show for great has been on the stage and singing the same thing. Yeah, it was a matter of me using it, playing for me and Christian comes out here every now and then. But you know, what's the difference between playing in front of 20 versus 500, sitting down, playing in front of a few people? I get more nervous than I would if I was on stage with with five or six different people playing in front of, you know, 100 people or whatever. And plus, there's been times we played in front of five people and we've had some pretty spells in our times, you myself, you know? But sometimes we'd get the good, the good gigs. And you know, when you see everybody out on the dance floor dancing to music and clapping and coming up and tell you, you know, filling up the tip jar to, you know, you feel good. But I just I just enjoy being with other people in and listening to all the different instruments, you know. Follow that drummer. Listening to the the steel player, rattle off a good live, listen to the keyboard player, do his thing, you know, and everybody taking their turn and and having a big professional sound system. You know, that's what I like about that. Playing in bands, what has you got to play for today? I just wrote this in about a month and a half ago. And you never did. Did you write it down? You got it memorized. Yeah. Mean it's funny because when dad comes out here and playing, dad's almost 80 years old. Yeah, and every time he comes out, he's got a pile of music you put down and you get no money from nothing. No. And you know that one or two remembers all time, too. But other than that, I mean, he can't remember nothing. I used to be the same way back in the past and having a big ol sheet music. But here, lately, now I've found myself able to memorize lyrics a lot better. For some reason, and plus, it seemed like when you're writing, when you when you write your music, he can remember it. And almost instantly. There have been a couple of my songs where I'd have to for about a week or so because I'd play him every night after write them for about a week or so. I'd have to look at the lyrics, but I memorized it pretty fast. So you don't same. The song is going to be called down the road. And road down the road. Hey, that's basically what it is, and it's kind of about a girl who's kind of threatening to leave to leave this old boy, you know, and try to him home run and finally, he gets it. If you're going to leaving that, that's that's kind of pragmatism. See if I can do it. Will you be here for the Baton Rouge man? You've been running around for good news show notes, travel fast in this one of. I guess I'll chop it up done to save a little bit of my pride. The grass is greener. Meaning it. The cards are on the table. Maybe up for. Crank up the Chevy Cherokee. Let the horses go. And again, on down. Now, don't feel sorry for me. I don't want your sympathy. Put these chains around my heart. Now it's time, you said. I'll be all in a day or two. Okay, I'm going to be. Hello again, you got it. Let me get on with my. The cards are on the table. Maybe up for. Bakar Bashir, your. Beginning it down. The cards are on the table. Maybe a. Shelly. Let them have to go. I believe it gets your a*s down the damn road. Oh, hello again. Hey, Jeff, long time ago, dad wrote a song called Break Down and if you want to, I'll play together because you've got to feed off each other and one would fill in the gaps here. You still got memory on that one. Oh yeah, by the way, I mean, it's not going to be the same dynamic because Dad's not doing another part of it, but hit that for a few licks. Good. You. Yeah, that's true, and I was there was this played out and hey, man, it's been my dad and that salad, he wrote way back in the day. I was thinking, It's a man, I can't remember your first car because Roe was in our house. You know, when you got old enough drives, you could you had to buy your own car? I mean, you had to work a summer job and we all worked. Yes, off and hell mats in there trying to think I remember everybody's first car. But you know what? I can't believe? Oh man, oh, the river got it bad. It was, you're his age, you forget. I forget that. Well, yes, ma'am. Eighty three, prove moonshine. Don't work at all bars. Oh God, the memory was the I mean, that's why I was so close to me. Geoffrey's first car was a 1973 Chevrolet Camaro, which originally was dark blue. I bought that car. I was the second owner from my uncle, then based out of San Antonio 350 Corvette Motor with the four speed Avenue factory, air conditioning, power steering, power brakes. Man, I was a bad son of a b***h. I love that car. And then I had Scott painted red and Scott was going to junior college in Kilgore and it was driving it back. He had a flat tire on his on his rear left, and that tire flipped off and beat down the side of the car. Anyway, I got a big idea. I wanted to sell a car and sold it to you. I think I I'll do fifteen hundred bucks. Eight hundred eight hundred I got them. I gave you a hell of a deal, was he? Well, that's what they did. No, you didn't talk me down for 15 rust on it. Oh, you did. Had a rough start. Come on down. Well, no. And the old doors rusted out. Well, I guess you come on. That's probably happened about a year after I had all the Bondo Scott put on it. Yeah. Well, Scott, it's got to get them to Kilgore and had it paid. But I mean, I don't think it was most professional body work that it ever. But he'll perform on a nineteen seventy three Camaro. I didn't care, though. My man, that was a bad a*s. Can't you have it, though? Vaux bought it on. I bought 15 for you. Had a license that someone set in the driveway for six months, man. And, you know, dad, an insurance man, he wasn't anybody driving and a license. Yeah, every now. And and mom, let me take so much on the block and I burn it around the block in record time, man. But so but I think I got rid of when I was a senior in high school, so I had it about four years. And then what you do next? It was a white 1979 Camaro, but it may have served in a Camaro. Yeah, man, because I remember I think I sold you that red Camaro because I think I'd found a lady. I think I was at North Texas State at that time, and there was a 1976 gunmetal blue Monte Carlo with twenty three thousand miles and lady had Luger. No, that car. Yeah, yeah, they bought that car and I thought, I need something a little more dependent. Whether the camera was dependable, I was ready for a new car. Basically, I found this thing. It was a great buff and that's what I was driving. I was at Texas State playing football. I had more room in it, a little bigger car, you know? Yeah, man, you know? But yeah, and that that seventy three kind of I kind of ran it in the ground a little bit, you know, and decided I wanted something else. And we went to Houston and Scott was living there and he helped us find a car. But I wanted like a trans am or something, you know? But they're too expensive. So I ran across it. And this is a cream puff, too. At forty seven thousand miles on it, bought it from a lady who drove back and forth from college right there in Houston. And they only had three or five in it, you know, and I still wanted something that was kind of hot rod, right? But we were getting really Houston down were like, Well, you know, we ain't found nothing either to take this and we'll come back in a couple weeks and doing fine. And it won't be our of course, I was going to be this work two in the bush going get and manage. Always coming back to Houston fell in love with it. Yeah, so much was clean. I mean, he was in great shape and I tell him because I've always been, Oh yeah, man, and we got into trucks. But oh, like, what your favorite car? Oh man, I have a muscle car, I'd say. I mean, it's good. I've driven them and I've owned them, the older Camaros and older Corvettes. And then, but you got your different body styles, you know your different classes like older GTO or bad a*s cars. But I've never had one, so I was doing well. This was a big fan of the Stingray style Corvette, and that's on my wish list. Before I die, I'm going to have a Stingray Corvette with a lot of style. Now here's the thing I had a couple of Z06 what are they call Corvette? I remember to call them anymore. I mean, this was the 07. They had no steel chairs. You have no, no, no. You never steel chair. Oh, what's your name and why are you here? But anyway, I had a couple of zero sixes and but I want one of the most anyways. But the thing about those things is when my knees getting out of things is real good, it's on the ground. So if I. The Stingray, I will put a lift kit on it and make it four wheel drive, so it's somebody the same height is a Ford Bronco, so I step in and out of it and not have any headaches. Well, I know what you think about that. Why not? Yeah, seen enough. So let's wrap this thing up. I will almost slow it down a little bit. As you all sing a ballad, you don't sing a duet because George Strait concert hundred five thousand people are less concerned been to my life. And he sang a song with Martina McBride. Jackson Johnson Jackson will be announcing her performance in George. Was that a lower one? I don't think I know that song back again. I don't think you know that something I don't know. And there was a real. What are you gonna sing for us? A song called Simple Man? It's kind of a little skinner that wrote that this is something you can have as a simple man. The original two. There are songs that have the same titles, every star status. There's not. It's not a crime to have the same title. I know it's out to say long ago sounds like that's based on race. That same thing that told me, you get the idea. They wrote that song. Yeah. Well, I know, but I think it's a broken skull ranch, you know, come out of the gate. Oh, here we go, several man. One day after. I'll engage. I can take for granted one thing. Make mistakes along the way. Be. Leave the past the. We. Live life. One by. Follow the best. Stand with me. We had a. We have. A little more time on. You know, you are who were. Interestingly, mall before they. Until the world. Life is. I wonder. Five. But there. Then the. We. Real Simple Life and the simple. Now we. Back on all you've got. Make sure. One day you now will be. No regrets, I would say. You're might, man, these were. No, my. You've got to give your life. Following the. Stand. We're. We have a simple we may. Live your life. They can borrow from. Then the. What? We have a simple life, the simple. With a simple, simple. And. And them and say, Oh, yeah, they're ready to sign. Yeah. I don't take it, Russell. No, no. Not very long. About 20 30 minutes. Hell, yeah, that's that's one of my favorites now as a man gets out there that I love the Texas flavor we was talking about. Yeah, a little bit. That that one does the other ones are kind of a Texas style edge, a little more upbeat and kind of a rock ish type, you know, but that's just kind of what I like, but that one island where it really came from, it just, I suppose, a lot of it just like it is. Yeah, that Les Paul kind of his signature hard rock guitar for me. Yeah. Les Paul's an awesome actor. I'd love to have a Les Paul just just to play, you know, but just just to have one, because there is a big difference to Les Paul and a fender if you want this kind of tone. Play your fender. You want to do rock and do all that. You can get your last fall. Okay, let's play the guitar. You got a steel guitar solo guitar. It's on a subtle edge and it's laid out right on horizontal, parallel to the ground. And you guys get some pedals, but all these are still guitar was real. So much learning how to play muscle hard about steel guitar. Have you replaced Avatar? No. Do you understand the concept behind it? Hmm. I don't at all. I know it's, you know, the strings are about probably about an inch and a half or two inches off the frets and all these why the frets are there. It's like, you know where you are on the notes, on the guitar, you got to press the strings down on steel. You don't press anything down. Everything is done with Slide, which is a piece of glass tubing that goes around the frame. I thought it was a metal rod. I thought it was a big piece of steel. Well, either or yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. That's what you're right. A slide. Yes, I don't slide. No, you're right. The metal rod that they kind of hold like that, you know, and everything is with a sliding motion. You don't push down and fret to make your notes like you do on a guitar. And then they also have have a pedals on the floor and also the rods that come down. You can push to side to side with your knees to adjust the pitch. Zac, what a long time ago to plant office in San Antonio. It was down at the Riverwalk. As you have now, this hotel is, Hey man, what's going on? Because now I met him at the hotel. We're just we're just messing around. I'm playing, I'm just walking and playing the fiddle. What is you, filet man guitar? So, you know, sure enough, I showed up at a hotel with a half gallon of ground roll and we tore up San Antonio that night. But when I'm talking to Zac Man or religiously, he goes through the scales every single day and I don't know all the different scales, scales, scale scales as we know now. And that's him. But that dude is not. He's been around for a long time. The best guitar players on planet Earth know how much time do you spend doing the basics of playing scales to work on a technicality? I really haven't got any scales till maybe a few, maybe a year ago when I kind of got interested in trying to play lead. And I just got on line and got some videos from teaching videos and they show you the pentatonic, which is a simple one. Now what do they mean by pentatonic? I'm saying it just could have hurt, but I don't know what it means. I don't know where the word comes from. It's just a scale you like. He gave you different like pentatonic. So much it goes like this, like a record this year he's going to go to. OK, so if you're playing a lead in a everything generates around those notes, and I think is. Are your scale? You know, and you can change everything. Instead of going up or you can jump around like, right then was there something you've been working on? I mean, because some people just start jamming and you get into a jam session, you just are revving. I was talking to Jack Hanna, said Jack, when you play one as bad as Solos, I said, What are you thinking? He goes off, Stevie. I take it because if you're thinking is thinking, because you can't think about it, I mean, because the way your fingers are moving, you're just doing it right. Is that correct? I mean, you got to be thinking a little bit, but I mean, it's almost a natural instinct. Yeah, yeah. I won't tell by now. And me here, man, I just, yeah, I'm thinking, maybe that's why I'm thinking. But yeah, yeah, it's it's a definitely a work in progress. You got to know. I've got to know what to do when and where you're at. And then, you know, guys like that, I'm sure it just comes so natural to a lot of people. And not not everybody has the natural ability, probably to be a good lead player. But but I've heard and you know, going on the videos and everything that scales is where you said you practice your skill and that's just one on. There's so many and some of them will get more complicated, different know than it sounds different. I've got blues scale. You got you like Spanish music type scales and just all kinds of different. You got a song here by way of A.. What is it? You know, a song called Time Heals. Everything comes out to anybody who's ever had a broken heart syndrome or whatever had their heart broken. And I've been down that road. You think you never get over it? Thank you. Never get over it. Thing. One day it hit you. Done. It's over. I've been through them and all of a sudden one day only person. So I kind of where this came from, time heals everything. Time heals everything and. You're going. Broke my heart into. Mansfield. I didn't know what. You can. Jonathan, go. I never thought I'd see. Did not feel. I can see light up. Strong enough. You haven't found. Daniels, everything. No longer. Everywhere I look. My friends, but to me. What can? Finally, be over. Rain clouds past midnight skies. Might. Time heals everything. Samuels, everything. Never spoke about it, and she thinks the world. In a funny. What? Can hear. Back in a lighter. They're rethinking stronger. Yes, fine. Daniels, everything. Samuel. You'll see everything. I like it, so let me ask you a question. But let's get run over. We're in a good time. No, you're not about anywhere. I got a another flu. I can do about it. You get. I wrote this song called In My Dreams. So what's this one about? Kind of a story about a guy who kind of had and hadn't found the right woman for him yet or whatever. And basically, you know, goes to sleep at night and dreams about this person who he thinks is the perfect person, you know, and then in his dreams and then one day he meets her and his dream comes true. He ends up living, living his dream by being with this person. There was nothing like it. Rosemary. So I can see him in my arms. He upset me. Where can I find it's make me? I don't know where you. Feel like I know you. Zero nine in my head. I love it. Oh, made maybe someday, St Miami Beach. Me. In my. Look, we've all been. Well. When your eyes meet. A new. This game is to. Now I can. You made it come true. No need. Seems. We would love so. Now. Well. And we. Well. But you're. But. And we. But. But with me in my week. Follow me. Coming. And that is the straw man. Like it? Thank you. When you read that one, that was the first time I've ever heard it, I know I have seen you since then. Yeah, I wrote a song about a year and a half ago when I won the first song, he wrote, Because, well, when you played, you know, oh, that song I played earlier, actually another guy he wrote the music for, and I actually use some of his chorus to it. But I wrote my own verses to it, right? So that song was all completely mine. Oh, OK. And so I can't take credit for that one. But this song here, the song I just did was the first one I wrote. And I was sitting here one night in bed, am I dreaming about all the fondness or dream about anybody? But it is something it took me here, hit Dream Girl. And it all works together because Elaine may be dreaming about something else. And you meet the girl of your dreams, but she's still there the whole time. You're there. So what did you jump up to grab a pen and start writing? Did you remember it the next day or you just? Yeah, it was something weird where I probably came up with. The very first line was what I'll come up with, and I close my eyes so I can see you right. You know, that's a fancy way of saying, I'm going to go a bad dream about you. You close my eyes. You know what I'm saying? Let's get that artnet poetry type, artistic type of deal. And that was the first line in it. And then, I don't know. A few days later, maybe a week later, though, and the rest of it kind of came to me. I met a pretty good living, a stone cold Steve Austin, a tough a*s dude in a ring of a lot of trash. But I dig some poetry. You know, in the way people put words together and how to do that. With that being said, do you ever read any poems? Are you, you know, think of that as you're writing a song? No kind of structure. No, not really. I just kind of come up with it with a rhythm, with a guitar riff or rhythm and a few lines and rhymes here and there. You know, you just come up with stuff that it clicks in and it comes in. There have been times where I've had these ideas on a song and I would sit there and you try to come up with the stuff you try. And it doesn't come. You just got to kind of walk away and save it for another day because of a lot of songwriters tell you if it if you don't come quick, you're trying to, anything will happen. Most songs that people write, they'll tell you, man, they'll write them in a few minutes. When I think about all Jimmie Johnson and New Age outlaw type thing, it kind of reminds me a little bit back in the day when I was early days, but certainly, you know, they want to be on the radio. Oh yeah. What do you think about Jimmie Johnson? I like him, but he's kind of one of those guys that I guess Nashville kind of pushed him aside, man, for some reason. I think he's kind of in and some of those group guys that, you know, they just go play their honky tonks and play there and cater to their people. They got they got people who follow them. They no about. And I'm a big fan. Yeah. But but that's not necessarily the Nashville scene. And a lot of them have accepted that they don't care. Like they're basically saying, what Nashville? You know, we're going to do our thing. And that's kind of the way of the Texas music, the revolution that they all kind of do their own thing. I played big nights ago. When you think about Jimmie Johnson, yeah. All I can think of and he's a great songwriter. Oh, yeah, he was. And so when I listen to his music for some reason and I don't know Jimmie Johnson don't know nothing about it. No, going. I like it music. But the way he sings his songs and I feel like he has been there and he has lived it. Yeah, that's what I get out of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you can kind of get it. And when you look at and perform and do you see him feel him feeling what he's singing? And I mean, that's what it's all. That's what it's all about, man. That's what it's all about. That's why I get pleasure out of singing all this stuff that I've written, because a lot of it comes from here and it comes from my own mind. So you kind of have a different outlook on performing it, singing that you put more into it than if you're sitting down here playing somebody else's song, right? That's your interpretation. Exactly, exactly. And that's somebody which is your interpretation. Mm-Hmm. You're going to it out the originator, and you can dig it. But it is what it is. Yeah. If we took a little break and you went out and said she'd be out of freezer, I grabbed another cool one. I got Moonshadow on a table of flavor ringing in the new year. As we speak, this year is played down the road. We don't know, but this is what had happened. And Georgia Tech just opened up a kind of Wabash on Mississippi State, which, you know, we're going to work now, which was all about, Oh, this song is called Going Back Again, come back again. That was how they got about a guy who kind of lives the lifestyle of it likes to hang out in bars and party kind of. A party guy likes to realize that there's this kind of life he likes to live in. So that's kind of what it's about going like this and. Well, I'm playing down. And doing about. This seems to give. Life in the fast lane. Some of the. In the Senate now, but I don't know what. I like to. Hard every day to put that. Now I can only. We asked. We all need to come out and. Back. Let's see what down, but I just don't. Go back. Sydney, do you know who killed me? Will it mean that? Good afternoon, makes me a happy man. Back in. I like great. And I can only get on back. Five minutes for my life, for a couple of years. I have two brother. A long time ago, dad wrote a song and a mom of the song, and I almost got nothing left to drink to. You know that? Yeah, I've done forgot it. This is song that my dad wrote. It's probably been 40 years ago. Yeah, my dad wrote a song. In many words. Mm-Hmm. It's got a lot left to drink to, but the party's going over. Sorry, I never recorded this on a little forty five, and I can't remember where I was on the beachhead. But if it us on a record, I'll remember it. And I had one of those records and I lost it because like, I lose everything most that there's nothing left to drink. But the party's going strong, all written by my dad, him and my mom. Every. David de Gaulle should be very proud. Just a drink or. Diamonds, all I've seen in. You've been gone. Left to. With the party going. Even in this crowd, my thoughts, you love you. We've all seen. Well, the life of me. What went wrong? The party is going. And nothing. But the party is going after. You, Murray has come to me. He beat them up. My friend, I'll give it one. I knew he could make my heart to her. I'll just sit right here. I got. But the party. And NFL. But the party is going drop your. He has called me to live for a. The cinema, my friend. One more try. Jill. I'll just sit right. Till all the pain is gone. The party. Going through. With the party going strong. But that doesn't mean you can't save yourself. My mom and dad back after it was a man I was talking to last time we recorded my dad when he when he went to cancer. Where were you when you heard about the news? And that had been the big C.. I was in Galveston, Texas, working. What did you think when you heard that news? Because it had shocked me and it just crushed me? Me too. Yeah. Very sad. And just but you really didn't know what to think. Kind of, you know, just get a little bit of shock at first. And the thing about it is, like our dad and Adrian, the strongest guys in the world. I mean, the dad was in his prime that sticks to about 200 five, 210 pounds and sinewy kind of kind of build back in his younger days in the black Burt Reynolds. Yeah, a good looking guy. Yeah, man. Just a bad a*s athlete. He was a speed demon and played a halfback for the Oakland Bulldogs. We had just a bad a*s cat and may not be here. It was funny because when my dad used to have of come to Jesus meeting with us, we would ask what he had to say. Asked when we got with my belt, we were brought up and, you know, people a little bit of politically sensitive that stuff now. But that's how we was raised here. And you know, the thing about it was that used to cry after he had to whip Scott may or go because we were really his kids and it hurt him to do it because he had to, you know, because we outgrew mom's weapons. Yeah. And so David started weapons. And but anyway, she's got so much respect for the guy and then like the work ethic that instilled in all of us. And because he was such a strong guy, dad was one of the guys. He was just always so low key and relaxed. And when he told you something, Hey, look, you in the eyes and he gave me his word. That was the way it was. Oh yeah. And if you don't do something, that's that was it. You made a deal. I was in. You shook hands. That was it. But if he told you to do something, that's what he want you to do. No doubt. And he did hope you did it. He expected you to do it. And he didn't get charged with assault by filing, you know, and you know, he had been having these throat problems for so long. And the damned doctors in Victoria didn't think to stick a camera tube down his throat and kind of tongue cancer that he had. But man, I remember when he was going to the chemo and radiation, he was living up there with me in San Antonio. And it was kicking his a*s. They never complained one time, buddy. But he's still here today, and he's still I hear on that broken skull ranch. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he changed a bit. You know, earlier we were talking about how you three boys are walking behind him, stepping on sticks, and he reached back to try to be quiet. I mean, just this two days ago, viewers didn't understand. Of course, I moved a little bit. Is that cash or may still be still don't move? You know, James out is still a story. They would look at this one here and it's bit how old the times were. And that's a god dang. How long you think the times where Jim is holding up his fingers to measure them. And it was below the window, but dad perceived it as being higher than a window, and so did what did that say his? Oh oh no, no, keep that down low where they can't see it. Yes, I bet they know. Go ahead. To this day, when you didn't understand with him, he treats you like you're 10 years old just now learning how to hunt. But the thing about it was, but it's awesome. You know, I have a lady showed up and there were still some deer out there and half lady was in amongst deer. So Dad was trying to scare the deer away. So Jeff, who had shot a gun a long time to get a shot at this, have later without shooting a deer in the process. So after being still for two hours over two hours after telling Jeff, Be careful, you can't tell your story. You don't want the deer to see and we've got to be very still here. Takes his hat off, sticks his arm out the window and starts waving it and starts tapping on the deer. Stand right here, right here to try to scare the deer away. For Jeff to get a shot at the lone have a leader and the deer is looked at dead. Like this, dumba*s. We know you've been there all day long and now you're waving at us to scare yourself so you get a shot. And it's kind of hard to follow you when you go to understand, because as soon as that deer walks out of the brush, they look right at the deer stand to save anybody's in any way that they get, as though it's it's kind of frustrating for him. But I mean, I love that was priceless to me. What was I going to ask for? What is the sound of dad, right? And then as you remember the man, you're. Veteran Keith Whitley. I thought he was awesome. Oh yeah, and I always wondered if he had a dad where he'd be right now. Yeah, because he's a better singer. Super. Great singer. Yeah. Oh yeah. He had an awesome voice and he was a great songwriter. I think he wrote most of his own own stuff, too. Yeah, I was unfortunate he when he did with a dude. What were your hobbies all these years that I've known you were brothers, you and Kodiak? And what are your hobbies out there? What do you do for free kicks? I mean, I just playing my guitar mostly. I mean, you know, and my little two two year old keeps me busy, but I play guitar and I live down in Texas. I like to play golf. I used to play golf alternative kind of golf game. Oh, terrible. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I hit the ball pretty good. But being consistent, I mean, any any amateur is hard, hard to be consistent. But but I mean, I enjoy it and somebody I enjoy doing dad. I mean, your dad not in so much to get out there and plays golf all the time. And he's pretty damn good. I mean, I feel good. Did you play sports for high school? No, I didn't. I didn't know I was in junior high to how raise in crowd. What was you doing back in the day? Yeah, kind of raising hell. But I mean, when I was in, you know, the old band geek, as they used to say, I was in the marching band, you know, I kind of figured out I wasn't quite as big as is everybody else. I was always kind of a small guy, but I got in seventh, eighth grade football. You know, all these guys are bigger than me, man. I just kind of it just wasn't for me. I mean, I wasn't any good at all when I was a good athlete, but I just my size kind of hurt me a little bit. And it was I just kind of got tired of getting the s**t out of me. So when I got what I got in high school, I was smart, so I got in high school. I figured, Well, man, I'm a musician. I like music. I'll try to get any band out and help. I enjoy that, you know? So that's what I did. And in marching band, we had a damn good band. When I say, Man, what you played in the marching band? I was snare drum when I first started band in freshman man. You get in there and I try out all these different instruments to see what you can be good at. And they had me blowing on trumpets, and I don't want to blow anything I want. I want to be a g*****n drummer. Yeah, that's what I want to do. And I was good enough on the test where I made it to the drum corps. My freshman year, I did play the bass drum set, which is so big and you see over the top of, you know, I was marching in and then a couple of seniors in the drummers graduated the following year and then we got promoted to snare me, a couple buddies of mine and we were damn good man. We want state marching, marching to contest our senior year and had a good time. I mean, here we got to ride the bus on our own, on the away games with the cheerleaders that had been with the football players and our fans. I think I made the right decision, man, when I was a Grade seven games first day, the first year you can play in a band. Yeah, I played bass on tuba. Yeah, I remember you're looking at big guys too, but we look, we live two blocks from school may carry that sort of tone. I'm lucky all the two blocks of school. I talk about a job, bro. Yeah, I was first here, though I put on my resume. If there's a rock and roll band out there or a country band is looking for a good tuba player for hire. I've been retired, semi-retired. I kind of like actively retired. I know what to call myself, what what my status is, but I'm open to an offer for an anybody that wants or needs a bass player for country, western or rock and roll band, or maybe even the Blues. I dig the Blues. Yeah, yeah. Well, you definitely have to, but I don't know what kind of money I will make it that Jeff. Huh? I might have to pay them. Let me play their little man. Well, but if you're too busy playing is anything like you're singing. You're definitely going to do now. Get a lot of first year, but there won't be a great big one on a chord that you probably want because you can. You'd probably only one of the actually good sound to come out of the damn plane. Yeah, you're going to have a lot of wind to get some come out of the game to that one word of well, but I don't think they had the heart to put me out of third chair anyway, looking for my phone numbers. Three one oh six. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yes, sir. For the the working man picking on swing, it has got it. My reading glasses on American more moon flavored. 83 proof that Big Sam Eighty three programs. Yeah, you got one more song to play for our illustrious crowd out there. Listen to the Steve Austin show. I got one more. It's a what is it? It's a little different. I sat down one day. It's kind of like reflecting on new country music, it seemed like every new country song out there. You know, I don't know if I can put out names or not. But you and Jason Aldean, you are your Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, all all these new guys. OK? It seemed like every song has as a four wheel drive truck, a girl in a bikini, somebody sitting by a bonfire party drinking beer. And that's what songs these country music are about. To me, they're about situations not like a good story being told, like, like an older guy used to tell a good old story, you know, with the music now it's like you got a girl over here. It isn't any. So I said, I can write a song like that. And I started coming up with words and got about halfway through it and decided which I can kind of turn it into a decent story. So it turned out all right, but it started out as a joke. So no talking about a story, telling stories, man. I mean, she's, you know, my George George Jones. He stopped loving her today, man. Hmm. The Grand Tour or going on to Conway Twitty? That's my job. Oh yeah, real beat. So anyway, onto your show, which was as a rib tent. With all due respect to the not just name, these guys are in the bag right now. So yeah, I don't ever run anybody down about five guys, but we're covering music and opinion. It is what it is. Go for it. All right. The song's called it at your place or mine. You were standing by behind the bar and just you were receiving an eyeful from a jacked up truck hoping to see. I walked up to. Law, my. You told me I was your kind of. I think you're. But a black man was to to tag. Citizens. Let's see where the. Sometimes. From made my way to the pig, and I feel my. Staring at you, I feel like they like you. I saw you walk my way. I believe it is right now. When I heard you scream. Your playing someone I think might to have. Right now, say 30, I want to be. We take you. See where. Sometimes. I can't. Where we started. Now is your place. I got a. So glad we. Sometimes. When it comes to Love Global. Oh, OK, yeah. Yeah, they think we've got to be in bed by night as we speak, God damn it. 11:36. I wasn't planning on being awake by the time it struck the new year, but looks like the way it probably will be like a moonshine for the music man. Well, I tell you what, I will count down a hell of a God, damn New Year's Eve. We probably will last that long. We're going to wrap this thing up. So Jeff, you're your Kodiak large guy in a working man working on the carpentry business, playing guitar outside may not get back in a little bit. I mean, you know, it was a hardcore hunter, but I mean, out there in Alaska, I mean, you're in the wild west, in the wild. I mean, yeah, my brother Kevin, who is 10 months younger than me and from, you know, my first original dad, James Anderson, when he was in the Coast Guard, he would go out to the rivers and he wouldn't make too much money and it was illegal to scoop him salmon out of the stream. But he rescued him out of stream because they didn't eat them. Yeah. And so you ever go out there and do it, you know, getting in a while or donate drinking out there in the woods? I've done some fishing, not much hunting. I haven't. I haven't got into the hunting up there, hung up. There is a lot of work. You know, I just get the interest to do that, man. I've really come to a place like this. It understand. What are you? Not very years in basic hamburgers, chicken and s**t like that. Oh yeah. Yeah, basic groceries and double what they are in Alaska, where there are probably in L.A. or Texas. Way to go to get the stuff over. Yeah, everything's got to be shipped, especially where I live in Kodiak, which is, you know, is an island separate from the whole, the whole rest of the state of Alaska. But whether it I mean, the rest of the states pretty expensive to the cost of living, you know, because of that. But I mean, you know, the wages are considerably higher too to allow for that. I mean, you can go a carpenter down here in Texas that makes 20 bucks an hour can go Kodiak and make forty dollars an hour, you know? But you know, it all kind of evens out. Matt Woody Allen, as far as television goes well on DirecTV, you know, there's a cable company called GCI. How you can get you can get the satellite, too, but it's pretty good. You, you and you get where you right now. Oh hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, we get all that you got to have brought out and we have the ravens. Oh yeah. All right. I'll watch it, man. You watch it. I'll read an excited redneck, Alonzo right now. I know why it's broken skull challenge is don't go to school till season premiere. I set your DVR. You got to DVR, TiVo. That's what I'm saying. You, I know you got to have my own. I mean, know I talking about having a brother. Don't bet your real brother. Oh yeah. The first season DVD McWilliam. This episode ran compelling because of Jeff compelling TV. There is a lot of bowl out there, but when you put on a broken skull challenge a redneck know you talked about a Mac with Steve Roach Garage Oklahoma. My brother, my baby brother. Yes. Yeah. For you. Kodiak, Alaska by way of Victoria. By way of a look at you, Andrew. Thank you, Steve. This has been a podcast. 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