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We're kind of playing this thing by the seat of our pants. There's a, you know, I had a few plans coming out here, but it's more, you know, figuring out who is here. And then once this is done, figure it out from there. Did you have some real hard core business deals to or just come out of season brands and network? I wouldn't say, yeah, networking, seeing people that didn't see you in a while. I just try to get out here, you know, a couple of times a year. No, no hardcore business deals this time now. What are you doing about the West Coast, man? I mean, we got to open your window if you want to just squeeze that thing at the middle ear right there in the middle and over here. And you said you're not out here and it's like that. There you go. Look at that, that breeze coming through that one semester. Look into three 16 gimmick street fresh out the courtyard. A fresh breeze. Incredible. Nothing but the best when you go. Have one of New York's finest over. Had to break out all the bells and whistles. That's right. Had these custom windows put in just for you, Sam, you look glorious. Man, I tell you what, we've got a family friendly podcast. While ago when I was sitting here and when Sam got here, we were just feeding the dogs and I was making a protein shake with a cup of oatmeal out to get some carbs. I was actually going to eat, but since we're just to four o'clock and we got a roll sound brother, so I drank a protein. Appreciate that, God dang, I had the biggest pocket of gas. I went the bathroom and farted for about 30 seconds. I didn't want to blow my Cobra attack like a nice guy on a family friendly show, but now they've got that out of the way. I'm ready to rock and roll and go unleashed. I'm glad it was just gas and you were stuck in there for like 25 minutes or so son of a b***h. I didn't think that fart was ever going to end. I got two packages dropped over the security gate over there. I was going to get one of my highly trained animals to go fetch that for me. The door shut or I'd put them in action. Sam, what do you want to talk about on Earl's podcast? Because I was asking you about some of your favorite WWE people back in the day? Yeah, we staggered on and started talking about NWA, Ric Flair, stuff like that. What's what's the greatest angle you ever saw? What's the greatest match? Oh my God, that's a great question. The greatest? Don't tell me, did you see tough enough a couple of years ago? Yeah. You mean my favorite match of all time? Yeah. Alicia, Fox and Melina, you know, with all due respect to those girls, you know what's funny? I saw I interviewed Cameron from the funk at Actos. Yeah. And you know, they tried to they don't really mention that she was ever on tough enough, right, when she comes out. But that was the first question I was like, Is that really your favorite match that she had? I mean, she's great in the ring and she's terrific in everything. But now the answer at least a year or two ago, whenever I talked to her, she was like, No, I like other matches, too. Now, you know, I go, Yeah, but like what? And she's like, You know, hell in a cell. Undertaker, mankind. Get out of here. Get out of the world. For I told her, she's beautiful. Actually very articulate. Very eloquent. And I told I said, You've got a place in business. And, you know, she ended up being the unwanted which funny because I was watching. I love the old tough enough. I've been watching on the network. I watch years. I watched the two MTV ones that they put up, but I watched that first episode back and she was the first to go and you said, you're just not tough enough, you're not going to make it in this business off here. I told her she was going to be in the business, huh? Yeah. Yeah, no. Yeah, straight up shoot. And we laughed about that every time we talk, and it's always good to see her. When I run into her at a WWE event and Alicia Fox, Melina was a hell of a match. You got to give it to him and his own right. It was, yeah, oh hey Kaka, call me a savage steamboat guy. Yeah, well, WrestleMania three or, you know, Iron Man, you know, Shawn Michaels hit man heart or go back to any one of the flair steamboat matches or go to Japan. Some of the Brody Hansen matches that those guys had with some of the Japanese guys or Brody Hansen version of Fox. I got a million of them. Yeah, so you got one. I mean, I'm trying to avoid Austin matches some of that. Yeah, no, I can do that. But I think that I implied that $20 billion or so that would go back to the AUSMAT. That was a virtual guard cutter on the camera. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we got it. Yeah, the. I think a couple of matches that for me, kind of changed my perspective on things, it's the heart. Michael's Ironman match was the first time because I was what, WrestleMania 12, so I was 12 when I'm watching that and it will stop there because there was heat between those guys during that match even then. Yeah, yeah, there was strong heat between those two guys. And it's interesting thing because a lot of times people think, Oh man, those guys got here, it's going to be a good match. Well, you know, like someone's going to impose their will upon the other one. Yeah, they don't really work that way because, you know, you got to cooperate with enemies of pro wrestling. So when someone really has an ax to grind or a grudge against another guy, by and large, you're setting yourself up for a certain sellout stinker. Mm. Those two guys being the consummate pros and two bad a*s workers that they are had a hellacious match, and a lot of the heat that was around them kind of broke down to this thing of who's better? So they're not going to go out there and not be and not be good. Right? Yeah, because what the two number one talent in the world in the ring at the same time to do anything less than a five star classic would be a disservice to their legacies, to their careers at the time and to the business in general. But that match to me is important because at that point I remember being a kid and I think Roddy Piper was the general manager or whatever it was at the time, and he announces this one hour Ironman match and I'm sitting there going, I can't watch a match for an hour. It just it was a foreign concept to me at that point, and that was the first match that I remember watching. OK, that's wrestling. Like, that's pro wrestling. I respect that match, right? And so that was an important match for me as a fan. And I think but but to your point that it is a foreign concept because it's like all of a sudden you're trained. Yeah, literally trained on 10 minute matches or a 12 minute match with a break or two. And when I'm sitting there and I'm expecting, okay, they're probably going to eat, it's probably going to be the score at the end of the show is going to be like 15 to 14 or something, just getting falls and submission Zimbabwe. But when they go the hour and we have no decisions and I'm sitting there as a 12 year old fan wanting more. Yeah, I go, this is something special. This is a different level of of wrestling than anything I've ever seen before. OK? Move to another match. The next one that was just a different level was the Hardy Boys Edge and Christian, the first ladder match. I think it was like I had no mercy. Maybe it was the Terry Tournament Terry, the deity Terry Invitational tournament. But that match to me completely redefined ladder matches and it sort of set up a whole era. Now, why did you to try to follow that match? Yeah, I mean, a short short of idea of someone getting killed right? And man, those dudes, I vaguely remember the match, but they executed everything with extreme precision. The risk that they put themselves through on some fantastic, crazy bumps that I would never even go through my mind if I was hallucinating on mushrooms, right? You know, they really put it all on the line. And it was it was very, very special. And I guess the last one, I remember it just coming because I'm trying to think it's those feelings that I get after the match. That's kind of what I'm associating this stuff with. And it was it was when I was in college. It was probably the early 2000s. It was an episode of Raw and it was Shelton Benjamin and Triple H. And I'm sitting there watching this and I'm 19, 20 years old. I must admit at this point, and I am, you know, hands on my head edge of my seat because I think Shelton Benjamin is going to be Triple H. And they went long and nearfall. And they I mean, Shelton Benjamin looked like a million bucks and nobody really talks about that match. So maybe it was it was different than that. But I remember going away from that match with almost like a reinvigorated respect and appreciation for pro wrestling in general. It was interesting that with the with the technical knowledge that Shelton Benjamin came to the squared circle with four men in amateur ranks, I thought that guy was really going to catch traction. And I just don't think he, I don't know, wasn't booking. I gave him every opportunity in the world, but just never, you know, he had a successful tag team with one of the Haas brothers, but I just thought he could have had a better way, better run than he did, given the qualifications and the talent that he possesses. You have to be a performer on top of an athlete, though. You know, you look at Kurt Angle again, who is this amazing athlete and collegiate wrestler. But what put Kurt Angle far and above everybody else, at least in the beginning, was the promos and the character. And just he embraced pro wrestling, and it was something that you had to watch where Shelton Benjamin, you have to watch his matches and they're incredible to watch. But what is it like? What's locking me on about Shelton Benjamin that I can't see? And then what you just kind of touched upon was like, you can talk about some of what we're sitting in my office. I have a Fender Stratocaster, which is signed by Steve. Ravon on the wall, the guys when I went to take a bathroom break were looking at the guitars and menace bad ass, and I told them a story about how I got the guitar. I bring us up because Stevie Ray Vaughan was the guy. First of all, he was a virtuoso. He was a bad ass, but also he played with such feeling. But you get a lot of guys who are speed burners and like, they're technical, but like, it's bad a*s. Yeah, but it's not as entertaining, right? It's not Axl Rose. Like, like, I want to go to his show and see Axl Rose, you know, acting like an a*****e. This is not a burner, right? When you when you listen in here, slash play that slash his signature s**t. Yeah. And soldiers, it resonates with you. And so to your point about the entertaining aspect, I just think if it had just occurred here, more of entertainment built into the body of his work. Yes, that showmanship could have took him to the next level. And you know, it's always, you know, it's a fine line. Or sometimes you find it, you never do. And for me, it was seven and a half years been in the business of being pissed off and, you know, bureaucratic red tape complacency and then all this stuff. And I finally found my groove. It took me a long time to do it. I just never got into that groove. I'm certainly not knocking the career of Shelton Benjamin. Hell of a worker. It was like to see more of a run out of him. Yeah, it was just, you know, it was great to watch. And he's super, super talented. But you know, you can't say that he reached his potential ever because he didn't write. So other matches, I mean, because when you pull that one out of your head. I know I I just started thinking about, you know, where did that come from? I guess if I want to go more recent, I probably I haven't seen as good a Pay-Per-View since. I think it was money in the bank 2011. It was that CM Punk John Cena match. We're seeing punk was leaving regardless. And that was the same show where Daniel Bryan won the briefcase, right? That show as a whole. But I think that Match seen a punk match was important, and it just somewhere I wish that they would go back to because I'm watching as a guy who's been watching this stuff for 30 years like I've seen everything. I kind of know where everything's going. You know, I go to house shows and I tell little kids, ten seconds before the match is about to end so they can run up to the front row because I can I feel the match and understand where it's going. That was one of those matches where I'm like, I don't exactly know where this is going or how they're going to get there. And those moments are so rare these days, especially for me now is the look on your website you were talking to and I wanted to ask you about it. There you are. Talking to Triple H is is down at next? Yeah, it was last year I went down to the performance center about it, the former senator. Amazing. I mean, it's and just watching what really struck me about being at the performance center was not only the whole setup, they've got like seven rings there and some of them are specially trained or put together. So you could do top rope moves without getting hurt and this one set up to do this. They've got an entrance way set up so you can learn how to do entrances. You know, Jim is state of the art and everything. But when we were down there, I think 2K game sent everybody down. There was we were watching a practice. The guys were still practicing and rolling around and stuff, and I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the ring and you've got at that time, Fergal Debit, Kevin Steen and Hideo Kanter. And they're in the ring kind of rolling around like any other student. And I'm like, These are guys that have been, you know, with these massive careers and they've accomplished so much and they're all just part of this system is coming together as completely fascinated by the idea that even they're sitting there, you know, practicing their roles. While it's interesting, man, I mean, God damn those guys, as you just mentioned, I mean, they have an average of 12 years. Yeah, in the ring between them. Yeah, if not more. And they're finally, you know, getting to the stage before the big stage. That's a long f**king road. Some time to get there. And it's interesting timing. And then next, I think, because I feel like now it's becoming such a thing that some of these guys are better off just staying in next. Probably not for the money, right? But in terms of of their careers and what they're going to do with them. Some of these guys are better off staying down there and especially the way they're setting stuff up. Like, I don't see when Kevin Steen is going to come up to the main roster. He was on Raw, but I don't see him being a full time main roster guy anytime soon. Not because he's not ready, but because he's so hot in NSD right now. Hold that thought, Sam. Could you get that f**king chopper right here? I'm trying to get an award winning podcast with Sam f**king Robert from New York City. Yeah, I'm glad somebody said I was about to say Sam. I was out there this morning lollygagging around water, tomato plants and f**king helicopter, which is hovering right above my house. This goodfellas. I'm drinking coffee. I'm not really awake yet, hovering above my house. This is the kind of bulls**t I got to deal with here in Marina del Rey. When I go to the Broken Skull Ranch, there's only a. Helicopter on the ranch one time, and that's what I have booked to fly ranch to look at the deer, right? And if you can, yeah, that's a no fly zone. Have you see a helicopter above you? You're allowed to shoot it out of the sky. That's your ranch. Do you think about that stupid motherf**ker that flew that little gyrocopter on the White House lawn? Oh, and they booked him in a ceremony on his way just to go do whatever he's doing. Here's a guy. Yeah, who does what he does and infiltrates the f**king White House. That's the one spot. God damn. I mean, we're not going to give him a ticket. We're not going to throw his a*s in jail for a 60 90 days, just for the thought of it. Throw me Guantanamo Bay. That's a terrorist attack. I know you can't shoot him down and go crazy. You know what I mean? Really? No. Yeah, slap on the wrist. I mean, what's going to at White House? Yeah. And now everybody hears about us. They're like, Let me try to fly something down to me next, right? You know? Right? Get those, you know, all of the same s**t. The gear spin in your head right now. You're not. You're going to crazy ideas they have. I mean, they're not crazy to me. Yeah, I mean, so dude, I mean, but if you bullish, not, I mean, blow your show up off the air. I mean, I won five days a week on Sirius XM in New York City. If you did some kind of crazy guy, like, what if we had a call sign right there not saying get your old Twitter handle under a gyrocopter above the White House? Is that hashtag SA show? Oh, I mean, are you kidding me? Hash tag, hash tag. Sorry, hash tag. I smell money like a motherf**ker. That's right. See? Are you kidding me? Everybody is going to be going around asking their kid, What's this r show? I keep hearing about? g*****n it. And he says this guy named Sam Roberts. I've said many books at the Steve Austin show at 3:16 Gimmick Street, right? They would see it. They go back for the working man. What are you going to do tonight? You're going to go out and eat at a nice restaurant? Or do you drink? I don't drink. I'm never drink. That's great. I'm going to give you a round of applause. Why is that good, Sam? I mean, you're a guy. You don't need alcohol as a crutch. No, I don't need it. Maybe the crutch when I throw the this one. But you're a guy who's made a career drinking. Everybody said, and you know what? I was talking to my buddy Troy, who's here and he's not a wrestling fan, but I've gotten him. He's a stone cold fan and he's an undertaker fan. I'm trying to show himself to the smartest motherf**ker. But he goes, he goes, Sam, you I know you don't drink. I go, Yeah, he goes. He goes. And you never you've never had a drink. I don't know. He goes off. That motherf**ker offers you a steve wiser that's going down your throat. Each man has rigged protein and oats. Athletes are getting ready to tune up for Rubber Skull Challenge. I'd be cracking a beer with you. I'll tell you what. Have you ever talked to Gabriel Iglesias? Fly the guy I have. I love him. He's great. As a matter of fact, he was on my show and and, you know, we hit it off because, you know, we picked up that we were both wrestling fans. I sure I saw him as SummerSlam holding a money in the bank briefcase as he tried to get into the L.A. building the Staples Center. But when he was on my show, I think I think the story was, you know, I said, Have you ever had any sort of great interactions with celebrities that you've been fans of that now that you're kind of this famous comedian? And I think taking a s**t in your bathroom was one of his most prideful moments that he's reached this point in his career where he could take a s**t in stone cold Steve Austin, his bathroom. That son of a b***h is that fluffy 360. I blow up your toilet. He was great. He came over. He just got a Tesla heaven. His policy came over. And this is at a time when I was fixing to shave for another project. He brought a six pack of beer. He brought further tequila and something else and whiskey. Jack Daniels whiskey. So I was thinking, Man, I said, What the f**k? I mean, it was like 2:00 and afternoon. I got to take one for the team here. Of course, you got this cool little shot glasses that are like inverted skulls. Yeah. So man, we got trashier done a podcast yet had a designated driver, right? I don't have a real job. I really do. So it was. It was great. You don't leave. 316 Gimmick Street Man. I got do so only on a podcast. I mean, like, who are you guys coming up next? I mean, obviously this is not going to flow in sequential order, so there will be advertising. But who are you trying to interview with WWE or anybody in pro wrestling? Because who have you talked to so far? I got just recently, I got Darren Young's first podcast. He's ever done. I got it. It was great because he got into his kind of story, not only with wrestling, because he's done, you know, he's part of the nexus angle. He's sort of all these kind of recent angles, but also being the first openly gay wrestler and being in that locker room, you know, wrestling. Yeah, he's in em and Titus are teaming again, OK? But yeah, that story was incredible and it was great to have him on. And I just wrapped up a whole batch of next interviews I put Kevin Owens out this week, got Sasha Banks coming up, got a Enzo and Big Cass and Fergal. Finn Balor, he's going to be on to. But Enzo and big. Have you seen Enzo and Big Cass his deal? Well, those are dudes in there like the. York guys, one of be small and has the leopard print Mohawk guys are funny as hell. Yeah, I've seen more. Yeah, I liked a couple of vignettes that I saw that they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're really good. They have a very sort of they're very reminiscent of Shaun and Diesel, which which is a good thing. I think so. I mean, they're they're the best mike guys on the next roster right now. Yeah. And I mean, yeah, they're different. They're now they feel very contemporary. And yeah, they're their money, man. I tell you what, I've just looked at the product from what I've seen on The WB Network, and it's a great little arena. They got there. It's looks like fun. It looks. I'll use. My wife told me I use this word too much the other day. It looks organic and action. The action feels good. Here's the thing that I really like about the next product. It's simple. It's to the point it hasn't been dumbed down yet, like Monday Night Raw has. It's almost like Monday Night Raw numbers like they want to fill in every blank for you there. It's like wrestling for morons. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I'm still with the company, but I'm just saying they've overthought it. And over there and it's a one hour show, I get it. There's a lot of dead space and a lot of rewinds replays and all that s**t packages, but it just feels like they're playing to the right, like the crowd as idiots. Like the simplicity in the format of the program. I'm completely with you on that because it's an old radio trick that I constantly catch on raw the people when they're trying to teach you format in radio. First of all, the guy teaching you has never done anything in radio, so he's now he's never had a successful show. So if you're going to listen to a guy, how's he teaching you? He's not OK. You just, you know, he just he didn't work on the air. So now he was able to get his way into a management position and keep going with him, and he's trying to tell you what to do, even though he's got no f**king idea, because if he did, he'd be doing a show himself, right? So one of the tricks is to you just have to reset up all the time. You have to reintroduce the audience to who you are. You have to every five minutes say you're listening to Sam Roberts on the Sam Roberts show. You're listening to this, you're listening to that if you're interviewing somebody every five minutes. By the way, we're here with Steve Austin and Steve Blah blah blah. And it's like, you're never going to catch me doing that bulls**t because it completely disrupts organic conversation. You have to figure out a level of comfort with the person before you can get something that's really good for the show and its and people want to hear a conversation. But I hear that and bring back that that to Raw because it's almost like I listen to radio shows that have been on the air for 10 years, and I listen to hosts introducing themselves to people as if it's the first time they're tuning in. And as somebody, even if it is my first time tuning in, if I know you've been on the air for 10 years and you're still introducing yourself to people, I can't see you as a show that has done anything noteworthy. You know, these guys like like, you're Howard Stern and you're Opie and Anthony and your shows that have been on the air for a considerable amount of time. You're not introducing themselves. They're known entities they have. You don't know who they are. You better find out and just start listening to the show. And when I'm listening to, when I'm watching Raw, whether it's listening to the commentary or the way they're, they're repackaging stuff that's already happened within the show, it's pretty obvious to me that that show is being programmed for non wrestling fans. Well, once again, everybody. I'm Steve Austin. I'm talking to Sam Roberts. God damn it, Steve. God damn, I got a bulls**t. They got their butt out of Sam Roberts. Forty four minutes to unleash podcast radio tracks. Keep introducing things. Let's talk about interviews. Yeah, you were talking on the family friendly show. You talked about prepping for a three hour show. Yeah, sometimes you only got through half material. Yeah. So and gearing up for an interview? Yeah, we were talking about someone you interviewed and I just to come by. It was Sean Waltman. Yeah, yeah, comedian City. And he stopped by and you guys had no prep, right? But you know, we're talking to people, well, like, yeah, Sean, moment is a guy I know. So it's like, I know especially and a lot of wrestlers. I don't need to spend a ton of time prepping because obviously been watching for so long. I know wrestling fans are interested in I know, you know, it's funny because talking to guys like yourself, like like, got a Peter Rosenberg guy? I mean, the stuff that you guys watch is so ingrained in your brain, you remember more than the guys did it right? Quite honestly, because I mean, sometimes we're so far and the force can't see the trees. What we were doing it, it's like, it's very interesting to talk to you guys. I spell out your career. You're going, God damn, I was a big deal. Wasn't that I'm sitting here thinking, Man, man, maybe I should get paid more. I need you as my agent. No, but sometimes you forget half the s**t. Yeah, no. Yeah. And I always try to. Even if it's a guy that did I know or they don't feel like I need to prep for, I always try to have. No, it's just because, you know, when I'm in the middle of an interview, I want to be able to look down and oh, something pops off the paper and I go, Oh, that's right, right? When it's a celebrity, when it's somebody I don't know, and it's whatever it is because like, it gets all the time. I try to. The night before. Spend some time figuring out who they are for, you know, what's interesting is the worst feeling in the world, and it's happened to me many times with the worst feeling in the interview world is an interview ending and then reading something or finding something or realizing that's a question that could have opened this whole world. That's information I would and I didn't even ask, and we didn't even come close to it. Yeah. And I go, How did that get by me? And then I beat myself up and say, it's because I was lazy, man. I went down Russ Maynard, 30, last year whenever I was in New Orleans, and I just, you know, had my room set up and just plan on interviewing, you know, whoever could really round up. Right? It's not like I was really, you know, buddy, buddy. I'm always with the Debbie Downer here, but it's not like, you know, I'm always just call them and say, Hey, I need this. Five guys mean that they're doing their thing. I'm not mine. So I just got like an open door policy. I to see Michael PSA is not in a green room. I say, Man, you're under the vibe gas. Oh yeah, I'm a big Michael Hayes fan. Yeah. And so, you know, all of a sudden, you know, interview was over and hadn't done any prep. Yeah, saw everything that he did, but I forgot that they blinded Junkyard Dog, you know, all the stuff they did over, you know, down and out in New Orleans, Louisiana, working for Bill Watch, you know, I mean, the whole junkyard dog was only, you know, the biggest star. The history of Mid-South wrestling. Yeah, you know, when you're blind, the guy that's a hell of a story. Tell me about the heat. What kind of death threats you get? I totally missed the boat on that. But you know, guys like Michael Hayes, like a guy like Michael Hayes, is like a Ric Flair. These guys that have had long careers and you could spend six hours talking to them. Sometimes if you prep too hard, you completely get yourself out of the game and you just start rushing through. Question, question, question, question, question because you got all this stuff to cover when it would have been a better interview if you could just focus in on a couple of those things and have a conversation? Oh dude, man, you know, back in it. When I first started working out of the studios in North Hollywood for their moved in Beverly Hills, you know, s**t, I'm sort of thinking, OK, I got this guy for two hours because that's the studio time I had. So I figured to interview last two hours, right? OK, I'm trying to get, you know, and these guys, I feel so bad for them because, you know, a couple of my friends, you know, Kevin Nash, you know, Shawn Michaels, you know, they're there were the guys and I really interviewed when I was green as gra*s. And you know, we're trying to go through a 30 year career. Two hours? Yes. And you got to hit every single day. There is like I'm thinking to myself and I'm watching the clock and I'm listening to the headphones and I'm now on a pause or dead space. You know, I don't like radio silence, right? Why? I just I kind of talk with a sped up cadence. That's just the way I talk. But I've said, you know, they start thinking, I'm thinking, OK, man, we got to take this out. You're killing my time or we've got a studio for two hours. You got to get to this point. Got my f**king questions. You're not even paying attention to the answers anymore. Like Kevin keeps telling us, basketball, basketball career, some like. And then I'd I'm hammering the point that I wanted to get to. So he does it. So those guys really helped me out tremendously. How long does it take to tackle a home project with Angie? You could cross it off your list before this ad is over. Just tell us what you need indoor or outdoor repair or redesign, and they handle the rest sending a top pro to get it done. You don't have to lift a finger. 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It's but it instantly is this thing where it eases tension in the room. You can kind of tell that I know it's stupid and it's kind of like, OK, there's a sense of humor here. The joke's not on you. The wrestling that I'm letting, I'm letting you know that I have a sense of humor. It's about me. I'm saying, What's the haps like? I'm giving you an opening to tell me I'm stupid. And now let's let's relax and start this thing or the first thing. This is different, you know? And or, yeah, I can himself so serious. Yeah. When I start doing modeling of Sam Roberts, right, Sam on Twitter, I'm going to start my own off if I ever get to do some red carpet s**t. Hmm. What I'm doing, I'm just going to say, what the f**k? That's perfect. You know where you say, you say, this is what I want you to try. Say, Hey, this is stone cold, Steve Austin. I'm here with Sam Roberts. Sam, what the f**k? That works. Try it. Say, Hey, Steve asked me or three. 16 Gimmick Street. Don't buy gas for Sam Roberts. Sam, what the f**k? I don't. I don't know, Steve. I don't know what the f**k. I was going to do this one to see my wife all the time and she don't get it. Someone should be in email. And when the dude was kind of, I guess, he's got a screen. So I always tell me, Steve, what to do. Well, I'll say about what it do, and I like the way that sound. You make a T-shirt with that. But if I just threw it out there, what to do, you know, because I just saw on your website you were talking to George Takei from Star Trek. Yes. And I'm a huge Star Trek fan. Yeah, love Star Trek. Yeah, Star Wars. All that. But Star Trek, I was a good s**t. You're a Star Trek guy. Oh, yeah, especially like, you know, when Captain Kirk was fighting that alligator monster on the rocks and the Vasquez rocks out here, about 50 miles out of L.A., we found Broken Skull Challenge not too far from here. What was that monster called? Oh, it's escaping me. But anyway. So, you know, like if I was interviewing William Shatner, I said, Hey, Bill, you know what to do? He's going to bed. I mean, he's quick on his feet to restart cat. I don't know. I kind of like still works as hard as he does. He's all over, but he's always got a new project. He's doing it in documentary whatever. But George Takei is the same way. He's always got something going on. What's he doing? I mean, because I mean, you know, because Shatner was the driving force, I know him around Nimoy and all that too. But it was probably harder for George Takei to find the gigs that William Shatner. Oh, yeah, but George, he had just when I interviewed him, he'd just done this documentary. It's on Netflix. You definitely should check it out because it's just going over his life. And I mean, it goes from his fascinating eye because it goes from his family being in Japanese internment camps World War Two. It goes into acting. It goes and, you know, being around in the 70s, it goes into coming out of the closet. It goes into Star Trek fans, it goes in. He's got all these different elements of his life that you could easily hone in on any one of them. And you've got an amazing conversation. The fact that he's got all this going on at once in this in this, you know, crazy person's head is is pretty amazing. So how long do you talk to him for? I only had him for like probably 30 minutes or so, but I could have done two lasers to stun or kill, kill. I guess you always talk Star Trek. I would like would have to dial them back. Yeah, I was just at the start. Hey, folks, don, if you go stunt somebody, you got to ring them up, lights out. One, two three. That's it. Sam, am I right or am I wrong? Because Stone Cold Stone was set to kill what it do. I'm talking with Sam Roberts. My name is Steve Olson. You're listening to the Steve Austin show on podcast Whatcom. 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When I was 14 or 15, what I think I was cool, like I just want at 31, I just want to be cool to my 14 or 15 year old self. So my 14 or 15 year old self would just want me to interview wrestlers all the time. He'd want me to be on Gimmick Street. He'd want me to be talking to the next guys in Philly, you know? So that's what gets me, like, excited from a fan perspective. But I'm also always thinking about from a business perspective and what what? What do I have to do to to get Sam Roberts out as far and as big as I can? And that means kind of knowing everything that's going on and then being on the radio five days a week, three hours sound like a b***h. Yeah, you know, I mean, with respect to work well, you know what the problem is that if you're not, I haven't had a career that's develop. I need to develop an audience through radio and through doing shows like this. So I need to be on consistently every day and give people a reason to watch. Podcasting is like you can knock out. You're doing two a week, which is more than most people. But so many podcasters have had other careers. So you developed, you have an audience, you have an audience before you go into podcasting, it grows because of the podcasting, but that enables you to not have to do this bulls**t five days a week weekend like you can, you can take a day off. You can put a couple in the can, you know? My point was, I mean, but that's what you do. Is radio right? I mean, I'm just talking about the grind because as like, you know, back in the day before I got in the business of Pro Russian and I'm driving a forklift, I'm loading unloading trucks and heavy s**t on a freight dock. I'm digging ditches. I'm doing that s**t. Yeah, it's hard work, but it's in a different degree. Right, right, right. You ain't got you. If you ain't got your prep man, if you ain't got your brain work, if you ain't in tune, what the f**k's going on? Yeah, you can s**t the bed real fast in three hours. It's really easy and especially once. I mean, you know, from being out in front of crowds like once you start to slip. It's a downward spiral and it's hard to pick yourself back up. It's one of those things that you just radio I like because you're not in front of a live audience. And I can convince myself that even if I'm starting to s**t the bed, I can convince myself that somewhere someone's laughing at it. And as long as I have that, then I can usually get myself back on a roll to something. Now, if I was in front of a live audience and it's just dead, it's just silence. It's crickets. It's impossible to come back from that. See, here's the thing that I think is cool. It's been live on radio because I like being live on television. Yeah, cool as a motherf**ker to me and like doing a podcast man. Sometimes I'll be in here. And maybe, you know, it was Josh Barnett last week. Or maybe it's you and I'm of trying to come up with to open up the show where it's, you know, the interview might have been done a week ago, but now I've got to get my rage and do my ten minutes material, right? Yeah, sometimes I really ain't got that much because I have been much going on inside his don't. But my point is, I'll come in here and just sit right here. Hit the stop and record button. I'll get 30 seconds, then blow it, get a minute and a half and blow at five and blow out my wife sitting there. I got these doors, those three glass doors behind you, Sam, are from China. I thought we, when we order one in Santa Monica, that there would be from America. Yeah, got there. I have no news from China at about some door somewhere else, right? Anywhere. So I got those doors from China smooth twelve people for one podcast. No, the story and my wife being a kid, she can hear me. She go, Just keep going. Why did you stop? That sounded good. Yeah, you're trying too hard. Yeah. But you know, when you go live, do you? That's tell me if you're thinking, you say, if you're thinking, you're taking it. Yeah, that's what I do here. That recorder is a safety net and you're sitting there going like, like the minute you start saying, I am like that line, then you start saying, you know, I don't like any of the lines. Well, I didn't like that whole thing. Like we're told story, right? You could just stop and then start again. And and honestly, the first thing he did was probably better. Yeah, like where you were going, you could slip up, acknowledged a slip up. When I do a podcast like the wrestling podcast that I do, I do it like I do a radio show. So I do generally. My wrestling podcast goes interview. You know, I do like it. Maybe a two minute intro, then go right to the interview and then do 20 30 minutes. Whatever I'm ever much time. I have left on what's going on with wrestling right now and when I do that monologue at the end of it on what's going on with wrestling right now, there is no I just put the mic on, won't edit any of it. I won't redo it like this is just what it is. If I'm going to pause, if I stutter, if I say, Oh, that doesn't make any sense. Actually, what I think is it all stays right? Yeah. And I think that's that's the best possible way to do it because otherwise, you know, you could just keep going back. And keep thinking of that, not let me try this again, let me try that again, and you'll never be done. Do you not work yourself? Try to look for perfection or what you think was better? Here's the thing, dude. You did a family friendly show, and now we're on a live show and we've covered all the serious stuff we've talked about to Sam Roberts wrestling podcast. But there's different platforms for the podcast. I would PodcastOne. And I'm also on iTunes. How do people find and listen to your podcast and why are you on the platform you're on? Why don't you give me your answer? Well, my podcast is independent, so it's no network. No, nothing. I just do it and put it out there and I do it myself, and that's it. So it's everywhere, like it's on iTunes. You can get it on iTunes. You can get on Stitcher. You can get on that. MJ.com: Anywhere podcasts are available, you can find it. But there is no sort of PodcastOne network thing. It's just me doing it every week and putting it out there. So drew, why did you decide to do a podcast when you're in radio? I didn't want to do it because I wanted to. I started doing a podcast probably two or three years ago, and it was just me by myself for 40 to 60 minutes a week shooting the s**t. That's it to use. Love to talk. I wanted. You know what I wanted to do. I wanted to figure out how to do it. I wanted to force myself to just do the exercise so that I, though, because I always had this thing of of, I want to be able to do it. No matter what you throw at me, I'm going to be able to survive. So I have when I'm doing a radio show, I have talented people that I keep around me and I like having them on the show and I want them on the show. But I want to know for myself that if everybody cancels on me, I'm going in there by myself and I'm still going to do it and it's still going to be good. So I started doing the podcast with just me just to hone my skill on that level, just to just to get out an hour, at least a week of just shooting the s**t about something, right? Like there was no going to your podcast. And yeah, no chance is going to be because you're on radio, but you ever go on your podcast and suddenly you hit a wall or it's like the material or the flow is not as abundant or free flowing as I thought it would be. And I need some debris for me to score on my brain. Absolutely. But I always overpay. So I think to myself, OK, what? I my my prep thing is, I start going through a list of what I want to do on the show, and then I figure out how long each of those things is going to last. So if I want to talk about Obama said this and I found this angle on and I'm like, I could riff on that for ten minutes. Honestly, I could probably refine it for 15 or 20 minutes, but I say ten minutes and I allocate ten minutes to this now, like ten minutes to that. So what happens is, I mean, it would have to go catastrophically bad for me to really run out of stuff on this list of things that I have. And odds are I'll only get, you know, 30 percent through it, which is a good thing. And that's the way I want to feel after three hours show that I didn't even scratch the surface and I got all of this ready for the next one if I want. And so you don't want podcast week? I do want a week. People have talked about doing to a week where it's like, I'll do an interview one week and then I'll do an interview and then I'll do. My state of wrestling segment is two separate podcasts. But as of now, I'm doing five days a week radio show. One wrestling podcast a week is enough. No, it is. Do you own or rent your home? Sure, you do. And I bet it can be hard work. You know what? Easy bottling policies with Geico. Geico makes it easy to bottle your homeowners or renters insurance along with the auto policy. It's a good thing, too, because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to Guy Kokum, get a quote and see how much you could save. It's Geico easy. Visit Gatcombe today. That's Geico.com. You know, he's got a little bit of time on his hands, he goes around on his one man shows and stuff and I say, you know, they're always looking for more content. You know, you could do two shows a week. And, you know, I think he's flirted with the idea, but he's so busy doing other things. Yeah. And I tell him, I told him, I said, Jim, I said, Do the one show all week for a while, and I just make sure you're into the system and you know what you're doing. Because when you decide to do two, it's not twice as much work. It's almost three times as much work just or as at least two and a half times it. I just twice right. It's exponentially more. Yeah. Do you have anybody that helps you with research? Like, do you have producers? No, no. You got to get somebody, just hire a kid f**king researcher over. But you know, as s**t cost money, man, I'm too damn cheap. Yeah, yeah. Well, we'll talk about it. But you can't buy that off air. You get a college kid to do it. Yeah, I know. But at the end of the WHO doesn't want to enter. If I had known stone-Cold needed interns when I was in Syracuse, f**k Opie and Anthony, I'm going to go intern for stone cold. Yes, I'm going to do all this s**t myself. And you know, yeah, I really probably could use some help. Maybe I'll get some help on that. But that being said, that's what I just throw out. You know, hey, man, send me some questions. Steve Austin show dot com and I get a bunch of questions. I just roll to an answer. And so it is what it is. Yeah. Hey, but I've seen you a couple of events. What do you get a chance to go out and was the stuff that I saw you at, like WrestleMania 30 back in New Orleans? Yeah. And we shot the s**t. Yeah, Kevin. And just, yeah. But like, was that a serious thing? It sent you down that you being a fan and you going down against podcast? Done. Well, I work at all. You do some on camera stuff, too. Yeah, I kind of do stuff that we have some fun with. Yeah, I do stuff with the network. I do the countdown show and they're changing that and we're doing it. I'm always doing figuring out stuff to do with them, which is awesome. That's why I mean, like, I love working with WWE and I love being on the line like, I don't need to be a WWE employee. But I love being right there at the precipice. I feel like I'm as close as anybody can get. Yeah, and I was like, Can't be future endeavor, right? But it's also like I get to be a fan and I get to, you know, be a part of it. And it's it's an amazing thing. And WWE has been so good to me. Like, just give me access, give me what I need, just help me out with everything. Some of the guys over there just amazing. But yeah, yeah, when I do a trip like that, I'll try to figure out as many different angles as I can hit it like I always try to. If I've got three days out in New Orleans and WWE is doing a bunch of stuff, I'm trying to get as much content as I can like I'll do a month's worth of content in three days, just whether it's for the podcast and the satellite radio show, and that's going to be on YouTube, but I'm going to film that for the network and whatever it is. You know, we did that when me and my friend Katie went on to next. You know, we were there. We went to next in Albany, in Philly, in Albany. We did like 36 hours and ended up with whatever content that's going to last over the next month. But do so when you go through all this stuff. I mean, you're enjoying it and you're taking it as a fan, also as a broadcaster podcast. I mean, you're soaking all this s**t in so you can regurgitate it. And it's a matter of material. And there's so much like compartmentalizing because I'm sitting there going to be taking notes. Are you one of those guys? You can scan everything. Remember it? No, I got to remember stuff, but I can't take notes at times because I'm sitting there going like, OK, right now, I got first things up, his interviews with the guys. I mean, use this on my radio show. So I got to concentrate on that and focus on the radio show. Then after that, I'm filming something for the network or I'm doing something for my podcast. Got to concentrate on that. By the time the show actually starts and I'm sitting in the audience, I'm like, I just need to enjoy the show right now. I just need to decompress and just relax because I'm exhausted by the end of it, I started on going five days a week on Sirius XM. What's five year plan? I think there's just so much going on with multimedia, and I feel like the radio show is where I go to develop, like I was saying earlier, is really develop an audience of people that are invested in Sam Roberts. I'm interested in what Sam Roberts is doing. I'm interested in what Sam Roberts is saying. I think there's I think there's some stories to tell in the life of Sam Roberts. Anybody who ends up with anybody who went from, you know, his mom threatening to not let him watch wrestling because St. Paul was coming out with a beer truck who ends up on 03:16 Gimmick Street has a story to tell, right? So that was I pushing the edge a little aggressively on a creative energy in your mom? Oh my God. I had, yeah, I had. I had conversations with my parents during, you know, your run specifically? Did they said, like Sam, we can't do it because you've been watching wrestling forever. But if you had just turn this on, we'd never let you watch it. My mom used to kid me and she was scared, but she goes to, you know, back in the day, I wouldn't let you watch you and I'm like, you know, like, come on, man ! And wasn't damn it. I mean, I go back and watch it now go. And I don't know how I got away with watching this as a kid. I mean, it didn't seem at that edgy. But tell me about the YouTube channel because you got a YouTube channel where you talked about that. What's that all about? Well, that's where it all started with respect. With the wrestling audience, I upload a bunch of stuff on my radio show, try to get most of, if not all, my interviews up there, and there's two separate audiences I find like I'll put a podcast out and then a week later, two weeks later, put the video up of the podcast I just put out and of thousands of people watching this YouTube video, they've never heard the podcast or it's everybody. Listen to this podcast. They're never going to watch the YouTube. Basically, your motivation is just trying to build the Sam Roberts presence, right? All right. And get that hair out there, too. My hair, my hair. You've got to know what the gimmick is, and I got f**ked on the hair. You did rock and do like that. I smell money. You tried stunning. Steve had the long flowing dude you would back in an Texas. I'd grown up. There was two drugstores in town. We walked at the drugstore. Get off. This went ahead. A real fountain coke, right? Mm-Hmm. It went before your days and old ladies are starving. I'll say, Oh, is that your natural heritage bleached? f**k. As a 13 year old kid, your hair ain't bleached this s**t while I'm in f**king junior high rise. Oh yeah, so I just to get a lifetime guarantee. Yeah. Well, yeah, but you do bald. Well, yeah, you turn it into a thing. Good luck on the shape of the dome. Like for me, I could not pull off bald. It's going to be. I don't have to. I know if your hair starts receding, man and you're rocking the horseshoe, it's not good. At some point you got to let it go. Yeah, it's going to be a disaster. If I do, though, hey, I was looking on your website. You talked a lot of trust in people. The podcast is the Sam Roberts wrestling podcast. It's awesome because Sam knows he should have been watching Russia for a long time, so you do a great job with it. And I always enjoyed talking to you every time we run into each other at some of these gigs, you've got a chance to talk to staying. What was the outcome? Yeah. How was that I got I got a chance to talk to him over five truck being killed in the background. Go for it. You really do you live on the outskirts of town? Is it mayhem? Is the Wild West? This is why I don't have no f**king hair. So we were talking about steaks. Yeah, I got him. That was SummerSlam weekend this past SummerSlam weekend. So as before WrestleMania announced it was before any of this, it was to promote the video game as his first venture into WWE. And now he's one of those things where I go, OK, I think I'm going to get five minutes with Sting. I'm going to try to stretch it to about seven and I'm like, All right, what am I going to get out of staying like? What am I? You know, everybody. First of all, I don't need another thing where he says, I want to wrestle the Undertaker. Everybody knows that. Yeah, so I go, OK, I got to ask him something current, and then I got to ask him. So, you know, I ended up asking him if he would, you know, want to get in the ring with somebody like Bray Wyatt. Because to me, Sting Bray Wyatt matches money. But, you know, I think Bray Wyatt could work with anyone. And then I was like, Okay, like what? What? From his past, am I going to ask him about? I said, I don't have a lot of time. Let me just ask him about the finish from Starrcade 97. What am I naturally curious about? And I'm curious about the fact that there was a year and a half build billed is the best build WCW ever did, and it was one of the lousiest finishes they ever did. The Hogan Sting build was the biggest thing in wrestling. And then for it to just have kind of a schmooze finish was just like, what? That's AJ. He said he was disappointed by the finish, and I'm satisfied. So what was the finish? Because I don't remember it was. Will you remember? That was when Sting first became CRO Sting, and he went up in the bleachers and he was silent and all this stuff. And the ending ended up being they just hired Bret Hart. So Bret Hart is like turns into a special guest referee, and he does. I think Sting ended up winning the title with a fast count from Bret Hart, and you didn't know what Brett's motivation was. You didn't know why Sting just spent a year and a half building to a match that he had to win from a fast count when he's the babyface. It was a disaster. And I think that was kind of the beginning of the spiral for WCW. What did you think about Bret Hart's run in WCW? Because everybody knows my podcast knows that I'm the biggest Bret Hart fan world. Love him, love the guy and respect the man and god damn what a worker in the ring. I just and it's similar to me, like he never fit in down there and I think it was booking. I think it was a setting. I think it was a WWF guy through and through. What do you think about his run? Because I was I was disappointed at it. But yeah, I don't think that the booking really knew what the hell to do with Bret Hart. Yeah, I thought it was thoroughly disappointing. And Bret Hart was the reason Vince McMahon was the biggest arm wrestling was because of Bret Hart. Bret Hart was the biggest star in wrestling. Like Bret Hart was the antithesis now of Vince McMahon, and now he's in the rival promotion. And you think you can do this thing, but I think you 100 percent right? I think they signed Bret Hart because he's a name. Yeah. No clue what to do with him when he got there. Just want him because his name just to take a piece off of, you know, like a like of the chess table, right? And if WCW vs. WWF Chess take one pieces off the table, right? They didn't want to, and they didn't want to make him a bigger star than Hogan. And they don't want to make a big, a bigger star than Goldberg or a bigger star than staying or a bit. And it's like, Well, what do you need Bret Hart for? Then he's the biggest star. Are in wrestling. I was disappointed. I think, you know, Brett felt like he was frustrated. He was never able to get any kind of ground to run on and then for it to end kind of abruptly and for all the tragedy to be happening around his family at the same time, he's just like, What a disastrous thing. Man, Wendy, I don't want to screw job went down and I was like, Man, dude, what the f**k are we going to do? Miss our world champion? That's Bret Hart, right? And then went left to think, Man, you know, you know Bret Hart? Yeah, because I just thought so much of the guy and he had a great career, but I did like the way it ended. Did that make you question the business at all, or do you think that was Bret Hart? Like, did you start to think, Oh, I never thought that. Like, I'm working for Vince McMahon, I'm working for WWE. Like, this is the place. I didn't think that we were still doing the sort of, you know, backhanded switch it in the ring business with business. Yeah, just one of those things that happened. Yeah, it's about two things that happened are actually so out. There are crazy. I mean, you're willing to accept anything. And certainly, you know, as long as the guy was there, I just thought, you know, my my thinking was man had two been together so long, we just don't split up for no reason. I mean, sometimes they say you can wear out your welcome. There's no way Bret Hart could wear out his welcome, especially with respect to the talent that he had. Because, you know, from a performer standpoint, you always want to be on top. But so but we know we've got to step down and other guys are going to take the top. So, you know, I don't know what's going on with, you know, Bret's head with that, but there's always a spot for a guy with the talent that he has because I mean, s**t. I mean, he had another three or four or five years left in him. Yeah, it was neat about him a little bit, I think, you know, he had that knee shaved down. But I mean, yeah, you had to make you use him as long as you can. And he seemed like he rusty knew how to wrestle in his style that he could adapt around a knee injury. He could. He could figure out how to, OK. You know, the knees aren't as good as they used to be. So let me start doing more of this and less of that. Hey, man. So so going back then, before wrapping things up, would you like about Bret Bret Hart? I mean, my favorite Bret Hart was the heel. Bret Hart was the Canadian. Bret Hart was the Heart Foundation Bret Hart at the end of his run. Because, you know, I always like Bret Hart as a kid, but I'm a kid. You know, I like the flashy stuff. I like the promo. I like the, you know, I like Randy Savage. And it wasn't, you know, I didn't respect Randy Savage as in-ring until later on when I could actually respect it. But when Bret Hart got to be more of the bitter side of Bret Hart and you got to show that off, and there was there was there was realness in there. Roger was and when he got to do that, even before he was the anti-American Bret Hart, when he was just fed up with Vince and he was fed up with his booking and they were doing it on TV. I was there was nothing that got my attention quicker than Bret Hart at that moment. Man, I never forget going to the ring with that guy. And you know, his his music starts with that guitar riff. You know, that chord, whatever it is and slides down the neck of the guitar. And all of a sudden they do the sparklers or pyro or whatever was called. But I just remember I always been in the ring just because I was normally the guy that was already in the ring and Bret was going to come out second, right? And so I got a chance to always experience the pop and explosion and that adrenaline rush that came with that searing guitar riff. And all of a sudden he comes out as like, Dude, there's nothing like it. You get yoked on your own pop because, you know, that's that's signifying you and you're that validates you and that amps you up and fuels you and gives you confidence or takes it away. But I've said, when that guy comes out and you've respected his body of work for so long and now you're about to be in ring doing business with him, it's a real charge. I'll never forget all the times I worked with him working with Shawn Michaels. It was very special as well. I'll never forget the one time I work with The Undertaker. I was starting to get pretty hot. I was coming around. Of course, I would take her a long time ago and world class championship wrestling. He was in the business for about a year and a half before me, and I don't really mean anything. You know, it's just a great guy who sucked against a guy who's a little bit of a, you know, rookie himself. First time undertaker comes out and this is whenever Demirel I smoked up the entrance. Everybody it their leaders up and I was shaking your head like, I have my hand in front of me and it's spread out. And that was like a fishbowl. And there was the fingers. I knew things that I wanted to do. We'd fill in the gaps, you know, once we get out there. So I knew a couple of things. I wanted to lead the direction of the match. So does that music hit bar? Here comes The Undertaker. I forgot everything I thought I wanted to do, and people always use that word surreal. I hate that word, but that's the word I'd have to use and mind numbing because I forgot every g*****n thing I thought I was going to do. He locked up and called it in the ring, but it was a hell of an experience. Yeah, you'd like to think at that point in your career, nothing fazes you. You know, you've been in the business for as long as you've been in the business and then that gong hits and you're like every kid in the front row like, Hey, were you're young cat? Yeah, right now. And when we as we are, you know, going back 20 years minus how long Tiger's been in WWF for over 20 now. So you were, what, 10 11 when he made his debut? Yeah. I mean, I remember my first line was scary as f**k back then. Oh my god, was he the first time I saw him live? The first live show I ever went to was in Wembley in 92. Yeah, when they did SummerSlam out there and the Undertaker drove to the ring in a hearse. Yeah, and he got out of the hearse and he just stands and he's the undertaker, and he's still doing the trenchcoat and the great guy. And he's, you know, and and it's in front of 80, 90000 people, whatever it was in Wembley. And it was just silence and eerie. And I'm this eight year old kid who can't believe what I'm seeing there. When if you go back on YouTube and I do it every night, I just for kicks or watch the most first WrestleMania as he was at or SummerSlam. There's one tag match I can't remember he tagged in in. He remains strong the entire match. But a couple of times, you know, he spikes some people with this fetish. But just with the way he's doing it, the way he walked around it ring, it was almost like when they gave him that character. It was almost like it was destined to be, or he was the undertaker in another life because there was almost no adaptation, period. No, I mean, right from the beginning, he's working with warriors almost as soon as he gets to the company. He hasn't been there a year and he's already working with Warrior and he's working with Hogan. He already had the persona that had the movement. Yes, the character. I mean, it was like a natural fit for him. But in the thing that they kind of had that a little bit of makeup on him underneath his eyes. Yeah, that black, purple and of course, his biggest stuff anyway. And if you looked at the few front rows of kids, look at them, they're petrified. Oh my God, they were shoot scared. That's how bad a*s it was. Yeah. And I remember because, you know, broke in with him and that it was done in WCW and he goes off and goes to the WWF. I'm definitely still trying to be a mechanic in the ring and learn the business boss, and they lied his a*s off and everybody knew based on his athletic ability because of all the things you could do his size, his looks, his build. Everybody knew the guy was ultimately going to be money, right? But nobody knew what to do to make him money. And all of a sudden, Vince comes up with The Undertaker. Yeah, that's comes up with The Undertaker gig, puts a plus sign and then plugs in Mark Callis, Mark Callaway, whatever his name is, and boom, that equals money. That's it. And that was it. And that's one of those sort of rare things where it's just everything fits together and you never want anything else from him like, Oh, that's the undertaker now and forever. So what did you think about the match with Bray Wyatt at 31? I thought it was amazing. I mean, that match sold me on. Bray Wyatt is to me. I think Bray Wyatt is the best guy in the company right now. Come on. That's my thing. Sam, what was it to watch the best guy in the company right now? Who's the best John Cena best in the ring? Best work or best all around? I mean, John ofWhich best all around. Yeah, go go. Neville go Neville over Bray Wyatt all around in the ring. Oh no, you don't get a promo. I'm talking about performance because here's here's what I'm thinking. Here's why I say Bray Wyatt. Number one the promo. He can talk people into a building. No, you don't think so. Yeah. You don't think Bray Wyatt can get people and he cut a promo. Yes. Yeah. Talk him into Bill right now. No. They let him get too long-winded, huh? He's talking to you in the building. Yeah. OK, maybe I'm blinded by it. Maybe it's just me. Two percent of the crowd here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the thing, you know, first of all, I love what Bray Wyatt done. I was cheering for him when he was Husky Harris because his heavyset guy without the great bodies that everybody else had. So I was already on his side back in. OK, the gimmick didn't work out so good. He comes up with Bray Wyatt. I love it. The Southern drawl. I love the promos. But here's the thing when you go out there and just cut long winded promos because they need time. Yeah, you just talk yourself and talk yourself into the ground because there's no point. So you feel like they just sent him out there. They want to fill 12 minutes. You've got to have an opposing force. Yeah, if he's got to if he's responding to a promo or someone's responding to his promos, one thing, right? But when you sit there, just go and go and go and and laugh about everything and you know, I'm not really digging into your skin or there's no, you know, reaction or, you know, you follow the buzzards. Not so fast, my friend. You're not telling. He's not telling enough of a story for the other guy. Enough rope to hang himself verbally. Yeah, I think that's what they did with the character. I think when I was watching, I love Bray Wyatt, right? And I like his work. He can take it to another level. But I didn't mean to cut you off. No, I'm not s**tting on Bray Wyatt, but he's not talking people into the building. I also think that the way he performs in the ring. The whole thing is telling a story is move the way he's moving his body. He's doing things that nobody else is doing is so. And maybe it's just because I'm such an appreciator of character. Is in the entertainment aspect of it. And here's the thing, yeah, as a person who's been watching the business for as long as you have, the business is entirely subjective. Yes, my good friend Zach, while for Black Label Society is the biggest ultimate warrior fan in the world, that's your favorite pro wrestler. Here's the thing or is not really a technical guy. A lot of people crapped on his promos. I loved his promos because his promos were true to the character of the Warrior, and he's talking about outer space and spaceships and gas and to think about all that other stuff. I dug it because it only solidified what he was, which is kind of like, you know, like a fantasy, a cartoon character come to life with all this energy. So the fact that if you ask any top guy in the business, who's your favorite wrestler, 99 percent of the time, they're not going to say ultimate warrior, right? Many times they'll say Ric Flair. A couple will reference Hogan. Maybe my name might get tossed in there, but I'm told that your peer workers, the guys, really top guys talk about, yeah, they're not going to say Warrior. But to your point, yeah, I'm trying to say with what you see or resonate with Bray Wyatt is what you dig. Yeah, there's no right or wrong answer. Of course, I'm just stating my point. But to me, the storytelling, especially in that undertaker match, I just felt like there's a story to me that is being told through his body language, through his movements, the way he was reacting to the way he was doing stuff to The Undertaker, just the way he was, the way he was walking, the way he was looking. Everything felt so true to the character and felt so. I felt like Bray was on a different level that night and has been for some time then to me, anybody else? So does he have heel? Does he have? He does a heel to you? That's a weird thing. That's an interesting question. I'm not sure that he does have have have no, because when you're walking to the ring and everybody's got their lighter up or their cell phone up or whatever it is that, no, I don't think he is a pure heel. I don't think he's a true heel. What do you do with him? Mm hmm. Right now, where does he go after Ryback? The Ryback thing? I didn't do anything for me, except that was one of the matches where, with respect to both guys, I worked their asses off. I really tried hard, but the match didn't work right. So I thought, like, they were fine. But I thought the story didn't work, which is going back to the story. Like, I didn't know why he was. What's his problem with Ryback? I thought that would. They could have done was Ryback has been talking so much about reading the secret and power of positive thinking and all this stuff. If Bray starts to hone in on attacking the power of positive thinking or whatever Ryback was doing with that, then maybe you've got a story, but they didn't do that. There wasn't really a story. He was kind of going back to his undertaker promos about the face of fear and just doing it to Ryback, which, yeah, I didn't. Have you talked to Bray Wyatt yet on the podcast? Yeah, yeah. I love having Bray Wyatt on because he does his thing where he kind of his real life and characters are kind of molded together. He doesn't need hasn't. It's hard to say it's a true shoot interview, but he's also not cheesier in character. No, no, no. I really don't talk to him out a phone call with him and our connection sucked, but I was really took a liking to him, his story and whatever you're getting out of him, like you said, somewhat flawed and out of character. Nonetheless, I like the guy. And again, I've been 15 years removed from the business from where I was. When I look at it and assess what I see, that's what I'm saying. Certainly not running the guy down, but certainly, I think with respect to the fact that they have a three hour live show every g*****n week, it's really tough on a lot of the guys and sometimes and I heard this from somebody can't remember who it was, but sometimes just they need time. So they'll tell X wrestler to go out there and we need you to talk this long because I brought someone up specifically and they said, Steve, here's what happens sometimes when they get the crutch. So maybe that's what happened. Maybe sometimes, dude, if you're just out there flapping your gums, OK, here's a deal. Yeah, I'll I'll tell you first hand if you said stone cold, Steve Austin was going to cut a five minute promo every single Monday Night Raw or for four consecutive rounds, and I didn't really have anything to talk about. Kill myself off. Just it's not going to work because I mean, don't get me wrong, I was super hot, you know? So maybe it would last a little bit longer. But if you don't have anything to talk about, anything echo off of and you're just out there talking, Yeah, I mean, it's just out for me. The Undertaker thing still worked. The build up to The Undertaker thing still worked for me, and maybe that was also part of it was because I would like to see an Undertaker promo before that. Yeah, or something a vignette. Anything? Anything, yeah, anything. Just so I know he's going would be, they're going to saw him. And of course, you're going to be looking at WrestleMania. But still, yeah, they're not going Bray. Go to the ring and just, I mean, incarnate, one more thing to really set the hook. Yeah, but anyway, you know, I see that, I see that, but yeah, I feel like. And, you know, getting back to never. I love Neville, by the way. I don't want to. I don't want Amy to get that wrong because you talk about the way people move, their bodies like Neville, has more control over his body than anybody I've ever seen. I didn't like the finish that they did with him. And bad news, Barrett. Which one? Oh, well, at the payback pay per view right now. You know, Barrett, such a, you know, good physique, you know, powerful looking guy, and he's going to power out of the ring and take the coward out. And of course, you don't want to beat him. You just got to be the king of the ring. Yeah. Same token you've already beat. Well, they beat him the next night, Monday Night Raw. Yeah, so they were going to beat him there. But that's like when Barrett, when Barrett was the Intercontinental Champion, he was losing every week in non-title matches. So I didn't like to finish that match. And I think you've really got something that could be real special there with Neville. And I thought they might put him on a tag team when I first brought him up from the NFC roster because he's not the biggest guy in the world, but it looks great on television. It's good looking kid got a great body, can do all those moves and at the end of the day, he can work. Yeah. Not just a high spot artist. The guy can work his a*s off. And so you do some, some promos or vignettes where, look, let the narrator tell the story and he's not speaking about himself because he doesn't seem to be real at home with a microphone yet. Mm hmm. And so he doesn't need to heap praise upon himself because that would make him a braggart. But, you know, it was almost like, go back to the promos when I was getting ready to face Bret Hart and the dogs are barking. We're in a warehouse and there was voiceover work. But if so, what else did right that would get the kid over? But I see there's money with this kid, but they're going to kill him off if you don't get no wins and they're just doing not fetishes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's one thing to have that sort of doing all these impressive moves, but they go get, you know, work right? You got to win, Matt. They can't be that impressive. All the I don't care how many flips you do in the air. If you kick out after that, why don't you do a big splash? Yeah. Why don't you do a Frogsplash? Eddie Guerrero always won his matches, you know? Yeah. Well, it's time for me to eat again. We're going to end this illustrious podcast note on Twitter. He's not saying that, not Sam and his website is not Sam Dotcom and his radio show Sam Roberts show and his YouTube channel. Not Sam Seaborn. We got this down. We didn't mention the show. You didn't mention the podcast and your podcast, Sam Roberts wrestling podcast. See, I had to get him to say, You know something I you know. Hey, Sam, before you leave, what's a house? That's c. thing that makes me feel at ease. Watch out for this evening. I don't know. I don't know. We're going to be. We're going to play by air. We're in Los Angeles. I'm going to live that L.A. Life Together plans for dinner and how many restaurants around here. What do you eat? Just cheeseburgers, you? You shouldn't. You should have asked me that at the end of the podcast. That's a whole other show. I got very weird. Not only do I have very weird eating tastes, I only eat a handful of foods, but they resulted in Mick Foley feeding me steak like a baby on the radio several years back. Yeah, yeah. I only eat like chicken. I really s**tty food, chicken and s**tty. It is when you deep fried it in McDonald's. Oh yeah, I know I got you a good system. Yeah, no, I mean, I eat any kind of chicken. KFC love KFC to love. Can't see. Yeah, I mean, I got to be honest if I'm going to, you know, call it like it is. I prefer Popeyes. Yeah, that's me. I do see a lot of people don't know about Popeyes. Yeah, a little bit of kick to it. Yeah, yeah. I love Popeyes and want it. But maybe that's also because they're tougher to find than KFC. When I find a Popeyes is an instant stop. The best chicken anywhere political viewpoints aside, is Chick-Fil-A. You can't beat a Chick-Fil-A. Have you been at Chick-Fil-A? Yeah, amazing. He's done with a regular sandwich. I get it. I always go to Chick-Fil-A, get a Chick-Fil-A sandwich and two orders and nuggets for the fridge every time. Because there are there's no Chick fil A's in New York. Do you live by yourself, right? No, I live with my wife. Are you married? Yeah. g*****n, I thought you were single. Why is that? Yeah, I no. I heard you say anything about her. Yeah. Well, what does she cook? She does. She can. But I mean, I don't. Nothing that I want. So we just throw with wrestling with it. We don't miss it. All this fast food. I think it's got to be single. You know, we throw some chicken on the on the form and sometimes on the George Foreman grill and all the chicken, any fried chicken and throw some hot sauce on it. And that's that. But yeah, I mean, I I eat fast food like, I mean, it's that crazy, probably like twice a week, like y'all got to be eating out of restaurants all day. Yeah, we'll get delivery or would just grow up some chicken. Every man you got like pizza. I love pizza, love pizza and chicken. There's a place right over here. It's within walking distance, go south and pizza. It's the best pizza in Los Angeles. Yeah, but is it actually good? Because Los Angeles is not exactly known for great pizza at this? This pizza ain't good. Come back to my house now. I'll pay for the motherf**ker. Yeah. Beach is yeah, I might I might lie, though, just so I can have an excuse to come back to 3:16 Jimmy Extreme Yoga, the District 11. It's kind of like a sprain, but it's just good s**t that doesn't fit me. I just get regular sushi. Now, come on. No, not even close. Yeah, no. Yeah, I'm not adventurous when it comes to food, it's fuel. And that's it. At the end of the day, you know, I want to be here for a good time, not a long time, right? I kind of want make a cover but have as much fun as I can. Yeah. That being said, I mean, you can't sample some of the fried chicken along the way. It's not worth it. Do you ever go to a restaurant called Granny's? Got a double? Like, it's like it's like a Salisbury steak, almost. It's a double country fried steak. I don't eat steak. I don't need like any kind of like, I don't know. It's like a cheese steak. It's not like a steak. It's this rich fried steak that you would dig. I mean, I don't need any meat, a chicken. Check it out. Dude, I don't know burgers. I don't eat. Not even a s**tty, greasy cheeseburger. No, it's all chicken. I don't eat burgers. What about the turkey? I'll have like a like roasted turkey. Sure. OK, what about hotdogs and corn dogs? Everybody loves a corn dog, Irene. Hot dogs. I mean, I will, if forced, I can handle it. Like if somebody is like, this is all. Then maybe I can stomach one. But I'm not a hot dog either. So it's just fried chicken and stuff. Yeah, that's it. There's not nachos and jalapeno cheese and you. I like nachos, but I like him simple. I like cheese. I can maybe handle how a pino or two, but no beans. No any of that stuff. Everybody wants to do their nachos supreme and put a bunch of s**t on it, and I can't handle it. But ice cream. I love ice cream. Ice cream. Yeah. Junk food. I'm really good at, right? You know I can go and sample many different flavors. Ice dowdy remains a g*****n thing. Eating all that bull s**t. Be an act of God. It's a miracle. It is. It is. It's an act of God. All of me is an act of God. I'm, you know, I'm I'm. I'm the way man was meant to be. I'm an idol. So how long you been married? Three years? So what did you think about your eating habits when you first met? I think she could stand him a little bit when I when we first met, but all they've done is wear thin on her. But she she likes normal food, right? Yeah, she likes Persian food. She likes like she wants to sample other foods. I try to find somebody to sample them with like, I'm not going to man when I met my wife 11 so years ago, and she's a vegetarian. I come from little down to South Texas. I never met a vegetarian until I met my wife, right? I've said, We're down to South Texas, dear Hollywood man during deer season. Everything's on. I road through what it was. There's McDonald's where there is water burger. Burger King. Yeah, I'm getting a f**king double cheeseburger. Yeah. And she tried to order a veggie burger because here in L.A. at the time I had veggie burgers. We get out of South Texas. So we're like, Do you mean you want the hamburger with no meat in it? No, I want the veggie patty in there. Like they got no f**king veggie patty in South Texas 11 years ago. I'm going to give her a binding banana, some lettuce and tomato. So, yeah, that was weird. But I mean, here's the thing about my wife. She loves to cook. Yeah, that that kitchen in there where I was making a protein shake, right? That's her zen right and her chopping s**t up. That's your passion. Yeah, my wife doesn't cook like that. So I mean, can she cook anything for having just just dropped chicken in the fryer? And you're good? Yeah, I mean, I don't want anything cooked for me. I'm good. Like, I don't need any. So you could eat takeout or drive thru or whatever. Twenty four seven three six five Be happy as a clam. Yeah, I mean, at some point I probably look for some kind of healthy alternative. Just having my body would start to reject me. What would that healthy alternative be? Just something that's grilled instead of. I probably go to the diner and just say, Can you grilled chicken, right? Or I throw some chicken on the Forman and that's it, but some hot sauce on it. And that's it. Well, dude, I mean it. But but chicken thighs are great, even if you grill those because it's still got the fat it, right? Yeah, it's true. Better than that of chicken breast. But I was I mean, I had since I've been here, I've been eating. It's not even great food. It's just normal food. Like I had an organic grilled cheese. I don't know what makes it different from a regular grilled cheese. It's an organic, but it's still is organic. And then I went and had some legitimate Italian food chicken, obviously. But then I had like some breakfast from an organic place. I was like enough. I got to go to a McDonald's. I got to. I started feeling withdrawals. What about french fries and onion rings? Love them both. I'll get if they touch. Love tater tots. Love tater tots. If you are going to say, Hey, if you can say you did like tater tots, I was going to throw you through the window and that would have been, yeah, that was it. I just talked about rejected Gimmick Street. Yeah, you would have snapped my back through that tree. You're big, you're big. Only on the golden arches. What about Wendy's makes a got damn good? I mean, Wendy's is I'm literally there at least once a week. There's a right by where I work, her chili, you know? No, no, no. Number six with no mayo, spicy chicken. No mayo. There you go. It's they make a pretty good spicy chicken sandwich. Yeah, that's it. That's I get it without the mayo, but it's always, yeah, no. Six. About any I'm going with Burger King and tender crisp, I'm OK with it. And Chipotle too, I can handle Chipotle. What I got over. They got it. Have you had Chipotle? Yeah, yeah. I'll get chicken, lettuce, tomato, cheese. That's it on a burrito. But the golden arches? No beans, no rice. You got to get them on as a sponsor for the Siri show or the podcast. Yeah, let them know you've got an advocate. Sam Roberts likes the Golden Arches MacDonald. I mean, if it was up to me, we'd fly across the country and hit up and Applebee's, like, I like to know what I'm going to get before I go. You ever go to Texas and I'm thinking, might have some up here. I just know we got them over. You ever go to a sonic? Yeah. You know where I went to a sonic was in Kentucky. I have family in Kentucky, and they have lots of sonics in Kentucky. And, you know, like a chicken fried steak? No, I don't eat steak communist. Well, no. But I know this man. Yeah, and that's what that's what Mick Foley gaming is. Opie and Anthony couldn't believe any of this stuff when I was telling them, and I was as young at that point as probably six or seven years ago, but it was always new, new to them. And, you know, it's still doing whatever I could do to get on the air and all that. But they were like, Well, what if we have one of your wrestling heroes come in and feed it to you? I'm like, I can't handle it. I don't care who going in there like, Well, all right. Well, Mick Foley is going to come in then. And Mick Foley came in and had steak and rice, and he was feeding me like, like a baby. Here comes the choo choo train. And they were just watching me just gag and puke on this steak and rice that they were all enjoying. So, I mean, it's almost like a bad reaction or an allergic reaction to the it's all psychological. It's not allergic. It's psychological, for sure. OK, what about desserts, man? I mean, I love some cheesecake donuts, donut, love donut. You love doughnuts, my man. We're going to knuckle up right there. You know, got there. Yeah. You said you didn't like, don't know. I was going to tell you broke with it. I talk you through all the tater tots, drag me through the shattered glass and back there. Yeah. No, no, no. I love donuts. I'm never going to turn down. I don't love you. Yeah. Roberts in a straight way. Hey, it's not Sam on Twitter, not Sam ABC.com. He's got an award winning podcast which ain't won no awards yet. But g*****n, I'm sure it's going to way down the road. I'm looking at the bright side. The glass is half old as mother f**ker full of charm and charisma information, and a lot of bulls**t to it. That makes for a good podcast. Yeah, it's a Sam Roberts wrestling podcast, and you can check it out on Stitcher. And where else can I tunes? Not Sam Gqom everywhere. Well, Megan continued, Good luck and with success with your show there on Sirius XM, I always like talking to you. I'm glad you stopped by the studios here to shoot the breeze. Y'all know my name is Steve Austin. We're doing the Steve Austin show with Sam Roberts and Steve Austin, and once again, you got to set it up again, Steve. You got to set it up again. Somebody in your headphone set up set up, right, say he's going to head to McDonald's. I'm going to go get me. I think I got some fish in there. I'm still around about 10 or 15 albums for the Rubbish Go challenge, which starts in about two weeks. I don't think I'll make it Sam know why you got to drop 10 or 15. I just thought about of slim down the waist, you know, widen the shoulders a little bit, then shoulders then get wider. So I've got to shrink the waist down. It's an optical illusion. You know what you do, but go to McDonald's and throw a fleece out and they'll never know how heavy or skinny you are. Get Annie Liebowitz to shoot that thing. I was going to film Redneck Island a couple of months ago, six eight months ago, whatever the hell it was and I was driven up. I put my shorts on and get all my s**t right is all camouflage and plaid, and my wife says, Well, maybe you should try some Spanx. I did. I bought a Booker T light, or I said, Tell me, you did not just say worse than Spanx stone cold or where I don't live. My life is don't go, but I just, Oh God, we're no god damn right. You can still see them. Come on. I knew you didn't live your life a stone cold when I use your bathroom and saw lavender. So I said Stone cold uses lavender soap man. My wife when she goes to Zumba Class Lavender, I've got some of my car out there in the center console. She got a big old gimmick thing, a lavender, so all of her friends will come over to her after a Zoom class, and she's like the mother hen squirting all lavender antibacterial stuff, right? Get their hands clean. So, yeah, a rocking lavender shot to show a different side of myself when people get here to see how Steve Armstrong does it in real life. Yeah, yeah, how we do on 03:16 Gimmick Street. Hey, man, I like lavender. Like a motherf**ker. Good for you. This has been a podcast. One Production Download new episodes of the Steve Austin show every Tuesday at podcast Wine.com. That's podcast on Omnicom. All this month, stream the funniest films for free on Pluto TV. Watch comedy classics like Anchorman, The Legend of Ron Burgundy and Mean Girls, or Drop In for a Tyler Perry Marathon with a Madea Family Funeral. Madea's Witness Protection Pluto TV also had hundreds of channels and thousands of movies and TV shows like Get Shorty Because Key and Peele, Comedy In Color and more. And no contracts, no subscriptions, no fees, no joke. So download the Pluto TV app on your favorite streaming device and start laughing today. Pluto TV Drop in, watch free. 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