Part 1: Adam Rants on Fear and Looting, plus Bald Bryan's Latest Health Update, and 'Eat Your Feelings' (ACS June 4)

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What's up, guys for we jump to this episode of One On One with the Great American Gangster tale, Sonnen and I got to keep the house lights until ad read for you. I partner up with my friends, that fantasy guru. That's right, I'm not making pics anymore. It's clearly not going well, so I brought in some heavy hitters. The NFL is here yet. UFC, MLB college football let the pros help you out so you make bank. They are expert pickers. That's what they do. These guys know exactly who to bet on. The parlays all the odds. They're the best in the business. That's why I partnered up with Fancy Guru. Don't take pics for me, Drake or tell Sonnen anymore. All you got to do is go to fancy Guru dot com. Use the promo code Shaab. As Abe, you get 20 percent off 20 percent off. That's nothing. And yet the best pics from the NFL, UFC, MLB, NC Double A. It's fancy guru or bust. Go to fancy guru dot com promo code is job for 20 percent off. Now let's start the program. Now I've Brandon six. Shaw, Mr Chell, Sonnen, what is going on, my man, we got the the government discovered aliens. We are Taylor Swift dating Travis Kelsey and then also Sean Strickland defeated. Is he out of Sarnia? What is the world coming to my man? That is amazing. I like how you couple those together, by the way. Is there actually something new? I'm on the aliens. There's something new all the time, but I miss something that's right. Yeah, yeah. This morning is apparently in Mexico. They discovered this alien. I'm not buying it. I think it's all a distraction of everything else going on this. They found this little kind of weak alien thing, mummified alien. I don't know if that's an alien. I'm not scared of it, man. It's all right. But right, it's always mummified or broad was a farmer's a*s. Like, it's always the same story. You're going to have to produce one at some point, even a photo will do, but there's going to have to be something tangible. Yeah, you'll see this thing. It clearly I don't know if is, you know, made in a lab is thing looks weird. I'm not scared of it. If that's what they look like, sign me up and says it's a thousand year old alien corpse I'm looking at right now. It looks like it'll Bumi out. If you're big into aliens and this shows up, it's going to buy me out. It's a real world. I feel like there's been presidents that have tried to tell us like, I do feel like Donald Trump did an interview one time, and he got as close as anybody to revealing to the world. And Obama was an interesting one. I think it was. It was doing David Letterman and Obama's that made some statement that you've heard it a hundred times. David Letterman responds, That's what every president says, and Obama says, yes, that's what they that's what they want us to tell you. And everybody got this really big laughs, except it felt like a real moment. I'll give you one day you might be too young to know, but when Bill Clinton ran was 1992 is the first time he was elected. But in the late 80s early 90s, the phenomenon of aliens was everywhere. If you were in the checkout line or something like this, all the tabloids, all elite, all the time. And Clinton said he got asked the question about him, and he said, I've always wanted to know that too. And if I'm elected, I will get back to you. I will answer your question. He got elected and he never spoke about it again, even when people brought it up. And I know that no evidence is the case of evidence, but it does feel as though there's at least a phenomenon. I agree. Yeah, they've tried this numerous times. It's also like with the JFK assassination Trump was, I can be the first president. I'm a release the files. And then he has access to do and he goes, I will release a certain amount of the files, not all of them, because I don't think the public can handle what what else is in there. It's like, Well, what is going on here, man? So I think they have good intentions and they get to the top and be right. You can't, but you just can't give all that information out. That was an incredible one. It was something about 70 I can't remember now if it was seventy thousand pages or 70 pages. But Trump did order it, and the head of the CIA was a female at that time. I can't remember her name, but she refused. And Trump said, I'm giving you an executive order release these. And she refused. So they brought Trump in to explain all the reasons why it needed to be redacted or why they couldn't put it out, and ultimately it just died. She overrode the president, which was also very interesting. I mean, that was clear as day that an aliens. The whole aliens thing freaks me out. And hopefully we find out. Are you more surprised that Mexico found an alien or Sean Strickland beat Izzie? They're very equal in many ways. Sean Strickland dominated Israel on a Sunday, and let me tell you how I watched this fight, by the way, I watched those in an amateur show that was live earlier in the day. I'm an ordained minister. I married my wife's brother, so I got a few things going on. I finally sit down. I met this amateur event, though, and I've got it on my phone. So I'm watching the event. I'm looking down, I'm watching it, I'm looking down. But I know is he's winning because every time I look down, they're on their feet. So like, twenty five minutes later and I do see the knocked down I watched with Shawn, knocked him down the first round and swarmed him, which generally, if you go for a finish like that in the first round, you're not going to win a decision. Your gas tank is empty. So my deduction, just looking down and knowing it was a pure kickboxing match also tells me that all of a sudden you won. And when they raised Sean's here, like, my god, I got to go back and watch this. Not only did she beat him, he beat him at his own game. That part's pretty interesting. Yeah, the biggest surprise to me, and I mean, you and I are the only ones I called in the business. We had Strickland winning this thing, you know, with you, me, and you know, Drake was way off. But I think the most surprising thing is if Monday morning he told me, Hey, Strickland, why not? OK, what? He catch him? He caught him in the first round and knocked him down and got a lucky submission or something like that. And if you told me no, for twenty five minutes, it stayed on its feet and Strickland out struck him completely dominated as he was only able to land 22 head punches in twenty five minutes. I mean, I would've called you a liar. I wouldn't bet my house on it, you know? So I just think it to me, it's the biggest upset of all time because the way it went down. Matt Serra GSP Things happen. Flukes happen. I get that. And also GSP, when he did lose that fight wasn't the same magnitude as a star or reigning champions is he was. So I give Strickland the nod over that. So I guess I was just surprised the way that Strickland completely dominated and also his defense. His defense was insane, man. Absolutely insane. And to your point about that, like they'll tell you all, you shoot this from an amateur wrestling background, but they'll tell you that a pair is the most dominant thing you can do. But I'll tell you, as a wrestler, if you get bender, you pin somebody. The fellow wrestlers get you caught it. I mean that 10 years later, you remember that time you caught me and pinned me, and I feel like the knockouts the same way. And I'm speaking more to doing the rematch. They say we're going to do an immediate rematch generally when we do immediate rematch is somebody got caught. I would argue that Algeo got caught by Algeo, had one completed round and he won that round. He takes one shot. He goes down. A lot of those are the ones go, Hey, we got to see that again. This was so dominant. Not to mention in the realm it is. He didn't handle this like any former champion. I mean, they all come out with the same store. All my hand was broken. I just went through camp anyway. I didn't want to let you fans down. I mean, it's the same story every time. Is he to tell that story? He he took it like a man. We fighters a fair fight. This guy won. I appreciate in that side of him. But there was something about that match that lends to a rematch. I understand the star of the business. I get why we're doing it. I just think that it's a little more glaringly obvious in this case, and normally we would try to hide that a little bit better. I agree. It's kind of like the Amanda Nunez in the Pena fight. They've fought the first time, you know, Pena did her thing. The second one was an absolute, you know, there's 10 eight rounds in. Amanda Nunes has completely destroyed her. Pirro, let's go for a third. It's one one. Nope. It's not justified that we're good. If someone completely dominates like that, it doesn't justify a rematch. And I'm the biggest Disney fan. I'm a big Sean Strickland fan, too. But for Izzie, it's it was hard for me to come on the show. Money go. I'm not all for the rematch because it was a twenty five minute domination, is it? You know, I, Brogan and I were watching it during the fight campaign. Rogan, Sam, triply me and Callan, we had it five zero. There's argument for one to all entertain for one outside that you're not given Izzie a single frickin round. So the rematch just isn't there for me. If you're Dana White and I get the business aspect of it is is a massive star. He probably the biggest star, you know, not named Conor McGregor. So we know is he's a massive star. He's good for business. So we see why they would do a rematch. But I there's something to it where the new matchups, new blood in the division is exciting, you know? So if I'm Dana and also I want your thoughts on this. If I'm Dana is he needs to rest. You know this as well as anybody. When you're a champion, you have to do different things that these other contenders don't have to do. You're selling the Pay-Per-View heavy lies the crown. It's exhausting. And Izzy's very active as a champ, might be the most active champ I've seen in my lifetime. He's active as hell. It's great the top guys day in, day out, and then he's also responsible for selling the paper you because he's beat ever, be it everybody. You know, and people are prisoners of the moment and they go, He's never that good. No, you're getting good. Fused, he's so good, he lapped the middleweight division, hit that there to do rematches, and he beat those guys. So Bill's people just president of the moment. But I do think there's something with Izzy where she didn't look like our typical Izzy. Now I'm not taking anything away from Sean Strickland. Maybe, maybe, you know, Sean Strickland just has his number, OK? But it didn't look like our normal is. He looked tired. I think being active as the champion, being that active at that high level, he just needs a break and then come back, fight to places, even if it's not for a title. I'm in for that, but I just think is he could use a break. Let the division build other stars and then come back. I certainly wouldn't have a problem with that. You know, he's going to do a rematch. You're going to get asked the same question, and the answer doesn't really matter. You just have to have an answer about what's going to be different this time. And that is where it gets complicated. I mean, they fight that fight. Where is he wanted to fight it? There's not going to be a make believe interview. That is, he comes out and says, Well, I knew I should have taken him down. I know I should have pinned him up against the fence and dropped my elbows. Like, that's where I think that it gets a little bit tough as a selling feature. Nothing went wrong in that fight. Everything went perfect. For whatever reason, Sean Strickland was better at it than Eazy was, and I do feel like imagine that if he does that and he goes, Oh no, nothing's going to change, I'm going to do the same thing. I'm just going to do it better. You go. It's it's kind of a weird thing because brand, the only reason it gets weird. What happens is he comes back and beats him, which right now he's the favorite. The new line came out. He's a minus one 20. He went off at a minus 600, but he's still a favorite, even a slight. What if he beats them? Something tells me we don't go to the trilogy. Something tells me we get the belt back around is if we don't extend the same favor to Sean, that Sean's going to have to show taught us, Sonya. And I just think that that adds to your point. Maybe it's time to take your oars out of the water. Let that division build is he has set himself a number of times that he would like parity. He would like some different matchups. He's tired of being in there with the same guys. How many times we fight here? I believe it was four times in total, correct. It is just it gives to an interesting point. You know, what do you do it to, please? I know he's sitting there thinking he's the number one contender, but in a month we're going to have to Myovant Paulo Costa. They're going to come steal a lot of thunder. They're going to get built up, I'm quite sure before that fight goes off. They're going to announce that this is the number one contender's match, and it just feels as though to please. He's going to need something to do and him fighting with Ortiz on it. Not for a title. I love it. What's the difference? In many ways, what's the difference if if they have a problem with each other? They never said it was about the belt in the first place. They just want to fight. The fight still works. They can still do it. I agree. But if you're WCC management, let's say, is he needs a break. If you do, please is. Can you afford to sit out and be out of the public eye? B are the kind of the may fight. Talk for seven months, six months. Can the police's afford that or does he take it on a guy like Cannonier and stay active and become undeniable? Yeah, no, that's a tough one. I don't know. I mean, I've got that same question as it pertains to Michael Chandler, like whatever is going on with Conor McGregor, it does not appear that he's going to be fighting anytime soon. And if we're to listen to Shot of the Day, he decides he's going to fight, that's what a six foot six month clock starts. I mean, half of a year. At some point, Chandler's got to put his foot down and bring in that fight, by the way, and I know him jumping around. But that fight has felt very weird. I was on my way to Theodore's retirement fight against Ryan Bader. I remember where I was when I got the news it was going to be Chandler vs. McGregor. And it didn't feel right from Jump Street. Then they got Dana, Chandler and Connor and three different people interviewed them. They don't know the interviews going on, so they're all giving different answers. Chandler says, We're doing it. Fifty five, McGregor says. We're doing it at 70, and Dana says we haven't found a weight class yet. If you don't even know what weight class you're doing it out, there is no fight. And they went from there. Continue to say there was one went off to the ultimate fighter, Conor McGregor. Now, according to social media, which I get that he's a troll, but most recently says we're going to do it at 185. And Chandler instantly responds, It was great. Let's do it. It's like Mike. At some point you don't have to look so willing. At some point, somebody here is going to have to play hardball or nothing. If nothing changes, then the outcome doesn't change. And the outcome right now is you guys aren't fighting agree that fight from the jump has always been a little strange to your point. We've never seen anything kind of that get, you know, my boy, Casey, who's my producer, is the biggest Connor fan. I'm a huge fan, too. You know, gun to the head of the fight happen? I don't know. I still eat to this day. They went through the ultimate fighter. You know, they've talked about fifty five, seventy eighty five. I just don't see it happening. And again, to your point, chairman is defiant. Just go, I just need a fight. And I think, you know, it's like when you're chasing the hot girl, the more desperate you are, the more that like, Nah, I'm good man, you know? So I think challenges play a little hard to get and go, You know what? I'm going to move on. UFC give me another fight and see how Conor reacts. Be the hot girl in school, be the hot girl in school. And I think as it pertains to Strickland and Izzie, you know what? The thing that I think about is is Strickland way better than we thought? Is he that damn good? Or did Izzie have an off night without taking away? You know what Strickland did? Is Strickland that damn good and we just didn't see it. When you go back over his record, you're like, All right, that looks pretty good there. Well, that last fight he did look damn. When you think about it, you look pretty good. You know, you go through his losses and you know, we've talked about this off air. Strickland used to come in the rain and you have a story how you know you'd come in there and you said he was king of the cage champ. I don't remember him well in those days. I remember a little bit, but he's always been kind of, you know, when he came in, the UFC was kind of this blue chip recruitment is a big deal, fell off a little bit for a reason. And then now he's back. So I guess what I struggle with is Strickland. That damn good or did is he just have one of those nights or is a combination of both? It's really hard, like I respect kickboxing, I spar with Joe, show them before and really felt like, wow, there's these high level guys in the Rift than they have in the techniques that they have. I mean, I really respect that Sean Strickland do. The most part, I think, is self trained. I've never heard him talk about, you know, the day at eight years old, my dad dropped me off at Freddie Roach, his gym or something like this. I've never really heard that that goes with his wrestling is jujitsu to, you know, he's just kind of one of these tough guys. So I would have to think that all of a sudden is better. But that's not what we saw, right? There was something awkward about Sean Strickland. They didn't stand on Sean. It was many fights ago. I want to say he was fighting Jack Hermansson, but the announce team puts out a stat that Sean Strickland is the greatest defense in the middleweight division to show you what their math was. They just looked at how many punches were thrown at middleweights, how many landed versus didn't land, and Sean Strickland had the highest. He's very hard to hit. You know, he comes in with this stance and you've never seen him in a fighter. Sean Strickland and Chuck Liddell are the only ones that have this dance. Everybody else gets clipped. They got caught. They got to keep their hands up. So he is very unique. I think that he surprised himself every now and then, a fighter gets in a fight that isn't as hard as they thought it was going to be. Like, I maintain to this day, there was nobody more surprised that Justin Gaethje should be Tony Ferguson than just engaging. And I think that Sean just started to feel that momentum. In many ways it wasn't the fight he was supposed to fight. He didn't threaten the takedown by example. He didn't get to the clinch. He didn't put any major effort in to get the takedown to start with, which is what we all thought he was going to have to do. And it a very lazy approach back to 1993 of grappler versus striker, but it still did didn't happen. It's like Shawn did everything that it is he wanted to do. And so how high level do you have to be? I mean, I got to look at that and I instantly think about Francis and Fury and go, Wow, maybe it's not quite as hard as we think it is. Maybe you get a guy that's a little awkward and does stuff you're not used to. I mean, there's a lot of things that I'm accepting, but he has to see that Shawn Stricklin was a better striker than a a Sonya. I thought that that was that was mind blowing. Yeah. Maybe we're overthinking it. Maybe we're making the fight game too complicated. You know, you try and make it like the nfl. or like baseball where a lot goes into it. A lot of planning goes into it. Then the day it's just two dudes fighting, you know, we're in and Shawn Strickland's able to break it down and meat, potatoes and you know, he spars more than anybody. And there's been this trend, you know, the same as the NFL. You know, Tampa to coverage was successful, so the rest of the teams did that for the next five years until we had into they adapted a running quarterback. They did that forever. So it's a copycat league. The UFC is the same, you know? So I think I'm going to be curious to see if fighters go look at Sean Strickland, he's the champ man. All he does is Spar. Forget all this technique we've been doing. Let's just spar. And I don't know if that's a good thing, and I think it works with Sean Strickland. I don't know if it's going to work for everybody else. And I'm also curious, I want your thoughts on this, Joe. You know your marketing genius. Some would say you look at your career and the way you mix it up and became infamous for a variety of reasons in your fight career. What is the UFC marketing team Monday morning when they sat around? Did? Are they like we got one? We got the here's the guy with Sean Smith. He's different now. Here's how he's different. And I think there's a way they can. They can run with this. I think in a world of. These gimmicks that were limited, you know, you click on YouTube, it's, you know, you know, channel Sonnen, you know, wrestles to get to two gay guys naked and you click on it, you just wrestling, you know, at some camp, there's nothing to it. So there's all this fake smoke out there. There's air come in there, there's all this fake. You know what I'm saying? There's Instagram. It's not real. Sean Strickland is authentic as they get, I think. And he and he kind of he attracts a certain fanbase who are who are. They don't have a lot of heroes. You know, a poor white kid grew up from nothing, and he talks about this in, you know, former neo neo-Nazi and all this horrible background. You know, horrible father, horrible parents. And he's made it, and he's he's their champion. I think there's a way to market this because the masses are appealing to Sean Strickland. And I think if they just take away, you know, obviously he's going to say some off-putting stuff. I don't agree with everything he says. But what I do agree with, he's authentic and that's what people are starving for it in comedy and podcasting, and they're athletes. How many times do we see a UFC fighter NFLX guy go? You know, it was a perfect game plan and respect. And then, you know, I'm just whoever's next. We don't want to hear that. Tell us how you feel, Matt. Sean Strickland is going to tell you how he feels. The UFC just has to let him do his thing. He might not bring on the big Nike sponsors and the The Burger Kings of the world, but he's what he is going to do is appeal to a mass mass audience. So I think it's a good thing. If they let, Sean should win do his thing. Are you worried about it? Well, to your point, and people sure do appear to be attracted to it. They're his crowds are massive. I mean, he always had a rocky moment where he he flipped the Australian crowd, which appears to be a pretty cool crowd to start with, I must say. I mean, they're pretty opening and inviting, but you know, even on a sign, who's clapping for him at the end? Yeah, I'm a little worried about it. I mean, early in his career, and I say this to somebody because he wasn't at A-Train, where, you know, I do have a care for him and want him to do good things. I was a little nervous. They're not going to be able to put him in these massive spots just because they can't get a main event, just because they can't have them doing media. But he has found a way to navigate that, and there is something that does seem very real. You know, he was talking about the belt and saying, you know, the belt doesn't matter that he asked somebody, How much can I get bored? And somebody told him, seventeen hundred bucks? And he's like, That's not even enough money to put the spinners on my Honda accent. It was just it was one of these things, but everything that he does does work in terms of being a real guy. I think he's the least likely to be pulling up in a Ferrari tomorrow or overspending on a big house or stop going to practice because he's at the cool party. There is something very real about him. He's rough as hell. He's rough around the edges, but he's also the champion of the world. And, you know, in America, the number one things that matter is success. He's found it. I mean, this guy is going to be really, really big. I'd love to see if he pushed back on us on. I mean, I get why you do the rematch. I would just love to see where, where his power lies and bring it. Can I tell you my favorite fight going on right now? Nobody's talking about this, but for me, my favorite fight is for main event on the December Pay-Per-View. All the rest of the interviews of the year have been announced, but for the December card you have Conor McGregor going to social media declaring that he's fighting Chandler now. Carter is at least serious that he wants that date. It looks like they're not going to give it to him, but he wants it. Leon and Colby are supposed to fight this year and the clock's ticking. That would mean that they've got a fight on the December date. Volkanovski has changed course and said, I'm no longer interested in doing Islam because I would have to wait until twenty four and I want to fight to it this year. So that would put him on the December date. And then Sean O'Malley, before he leaves the ring against Sterling, not only calls for Chito Vera, but he calls specifically for the December date. So it really is interesting to find out who's got the power and who the biggest star is, and there's some of these guys that are all going for the same thing. It won't get talked about it look the same. I hope that I'm setting this up well, because it really is interesting. All of these guys are flexing behind the scenes. None of those guys want to be a co-main event, right? I mean, you got you got former champion. Someone's going to have the co-main event. They're all going after co-main event if Conor steps forward. I just think it's an interesting thing and O'Malley does have some news coming. I have to assume that news means a fight. If he's got a fight, I have to assume December. But if he gets it, look at the guys that he just beat out. The UFC has their choice of champions whoever they go with in December. That's save a lot. It's saying this is the guy we think can move the needle. And I assume that sugar, especially, you know, with without him saying he has news. I would assume that sugar and all those names that you listed there, as far as when it comes to marketability, selling pay per views, I assume that's sugar. And do you assume it's Cheeto? I assume would be him versus Cheeto, yeah. I think Al Jones, historically speaking, I think he's owed a rematch generally too. If you get caught, you do a rematch any time you're hit with one punch and you go down, that goes into the criterias. Plus, I think he had set a record with defenses, even though it was only a couple, but bantamweight, etc. musical chairs over there. Algeo did make one mistake, though, which is he didn't ask for the rematch. He did not in the ring asked for it. So Sean moved on to Chino. Was there the press conferences in the back? He got all three players there. It seemed like maybe he did things in the in the wrong order, but I don't think that that Algeo going to social media is going to be able to build a fire. No, as much as the one that he smouldered live in the ring. And I don't think he's next. I don't think I don't think Rob playing the game of I'm not going to fight Algeo. I don't think Henry's in the discussion. Even as great as he is. Yes, I think it's Chino. Me, do I agree? I think it's due in December. There's also a case to, you know, Strickland didn't have a scratch on him and shrieking like to stay super active. So him being champion and he doesn't seem like a guy who's going to, you know, hold the bell and pick his opponent. I think he's down to dance with whoever, whether it's Hamzat Paulo Costa, the rematch do please. He doesn't care if he if, if we're going based off the way he's carried himself leading up to become champion. So I think with Strickland, there is a possibility where he goes. I want to turn around fast like I've always done. I want I want to fight right away who's available to please places cool. We don't know where he's at with his injury. Obviously, Paulo Costa and Hamzat, their final October. There's no way they fight in December. Less, you know, Hobbs order. Paulo Casas a quick one. Quick turnaround. You know, it's a one shot night nights over a type of fight. But I'm curious how Strickland acts as a champion now. Is he going to carry the same energy? How active he is, you know, because he did to him. I don't think the title. Obviously, it's not filling whatever hole he has going on there in his soul. You know, just he didn't seem like the type of guy, the guy that gets the belt and he's going to call his shots. I think he's going to be, you know, a good company man, and that's not a knock on him that it goes a long ways when you do that. So I think he's really an active champ. So there's a possibility could be on that December card, if you please is, which I don't know where he's at in whatever the places you went to out not taking advantage of opportunity after your title shot. You have to and I bet he was watching that fight going, Oh no, I could have beat this guy. And now, you know, who knows he might get left behind? Yeah, no. I hear you on that. And that was a very that was a very interesting case as it was. I mean, just a quick timeline. But go back to December Test, that is when Prochazka was supposed to rematch, go over to share, they were going to do it for the belt. Prochazka gets hurt. They not only they not only don't do the fight, they take the belt off him, which I found that to be shocking, by the way. One week after he announces he's hurt, he's no longer a champion. If you're going to strip a guy that kind of says you don't think he's ever going to come back, and it was even stated, this is the worst shoulder injury we've ever said. So they took the bell off a guy while simultaneously having a heavyweight bout at ACL surgery Stanford 10 months, and there was never even a threat. They were going to take the belt off him. I just think that that's interesting. They put two new guys in by January, Prochazka says. I'm ready. I can go back in and it's like, OK, I believe you, Prochazka, because you're the one that told us in the first place that you were hurt. But what do we chalk this up to? Is this a misdiagnosis? That'd be great. Is this a miracle? Like, what is it that you were stripped in December, but you're back by January? Now you've got all of this time that's gone by. And allegedly, again, he's back. But there's no rumor of an opponent. There's no rumor of a return date. Like, I just think that it's a very interesting case with Prochazka. It gets revealed to us by RUSADA that they tested him twenty five times in twenty seven days, which had never happened before. Nothing was flagged and nothing came back. But at the same time, we don't hear anything about Prochazka to the point that when Jamal wins the belt in January, you would think it'd be somewhat quick turnaround. Jamal gets hurt and drops the belt in July, seven months later, but again, he didn't have a fight booked. There wasn't even a rumor of an opponent for Jamal. So and where I'm going with all of this is the fact that if they do turn Strickland around the way they are turning O'Malley around, like some of these guys can't get fights that are champions, some of these guys can't stay out of the cage. They've got to act him. They've got him busy all the time. Sometimes that juice is good, and sometimes I'm just sharing with you. Like, there is a lot of politics. This goes into it. There's a lot of numbers that we don't see, but it's also kind of put right in front of us. Nothing happened with those light heavyweights in those light heavyweights won't sell out in the arenas. All of a sudden bantamweight is rising up. All sudden. Sean Strickland is the champion of the world. He's on a different continent. He's got seventeen thousand people on their feet cheering. It's a very different time. All of this goes on with an overlaying story of it appears. Conor McGregor is not as needed as he once was. You've got Conor McGregor begging. To come back, he's serious about that, he wanted that December date. He wants to get in there. He knows he's not playing ball with who shot it, but he thinks that there's a clause in the contract that could be activated in his favor, which Connor is right. In my opinion, there is a clause and he doesn't have to do one hundred and eighty days. But now the question comes, is the UFC want to take on their partners and who shot over a guy that doesn't move the needle that much more than the new guys read tonight is still real. Connor still the biggest star. It just appears that it's closing. We're in a very different time in May, Brendan. Very different. And then when we're compete, my man, I think it's also interesting to hear Alex Behera, you know, he has a win over as he has a win over Strickland. Let's say he goes out there and beats theory. Is there something in Alex Peer where he goes, You know what? Now that is, he's not the champ I'm going to go back to. I'm going to be the double champ champ here. I'm going to go back to middleweight if it's Strickland, very beat him. If it's homicide, you know, if it's whoever it is. Robert Whittaker Duplessis. I think Alex Piers looking going, I be any of these guys. This is easy to get another belt. I could see that happening. It's a good time in the business, a good time for what we do. I think for what we do is, you know, as much as I love Izzie, him lose and Strickland being him. I was excited to come in the studio money because if you were to just walk through him, there's not a lot to talk about, you know? So I wasn't mad at that in any facet. You would know probably better than most this this WWE merger, which was announced yesterday with the UFC, and they rang the bell at Nasdaq. How do you see this is a good thing. I think they're evaluated at twenty one billion now. The TKO group, which is the name of the B in the UFC, they're one kind of company now. I think it gives them power as far as TV ratings and TV deals. You know, I think I don't know how much longer UFC has with ESPN or WB has with Fox, but I could see them making some big waves when it when those deal TV deals are up and that's where they get their main nut. So it's interesting to see how they kind of use that power that they have now merge in together the WWE twenty one billion dollar company. I'm curious how it's going to go. I think all good, but I think word gets a little murky is. The casual fan, I think it's hard for them to separate. Hold on, so you tell me, you know, Roman Reigns and Izzie under the same banner so as Roman Reigns can be fighting, you know, insert Jon Jones, is that is that how this goes? So it it gets a little weird, I think I think they do have to keep them separate, but I think it could be good. I'm dying with curiosity on that as well, right, like nobody buys a company of any size. Twenty one billion a year or two hundred dollars to keep it the same, they all because they see opportunity to make it grow. And that's why I'm so curious. I mean, Ari might change the way TV is done. If I give these two together, what are they going to do their own network? Maybe they have got the WB network. They got bypassed. But is it something along those lines or are they just going to keep going to the highest bidder? But I mean, not for nothing. What would stop baseball and football from teaming up like if whatever plan Ari has actually works and you can make more money having both as opposed to separate? I mean, I will tell you, it's a different level of business, but he's also up to something that hasn't been seen before. It's not black and white, and there's not an example. We go, Yeah, this was done in 1980 with the such and such. It's never been done, and I don't know where he plans to go with it. I'm I'm extremely curious. I remember, you know, Dana, when he started doing weekly shows people all push back, so that's too much. And Dana said, Is there too much football? Like, if you're a fan, there's there's not too much. Once a week is enough, you know, the Seinfeld go too often, whatever examples Dana gave, but he turned out to be right turned out there was an audience turned out. People did like to do that on Saturday, turned their TV on it and watch it. And by the way, I'm jumping around, but you brought up depletions a minute ago. I lost my train of thought, but I've found it when I was talking about on Du'Plessis and the reason I went back to that December show with the light heavyweights. I didn't know who the police he was. He had a very beautiful name. Drake is the crazy. I assumed he was French and people would call him like DVP. Kind of like GSB. There's all these South African. I had the whole thing wrong, but I share that with you because I didn't know who he was. He was on the undercard. I agree with that. Way back in December, same weight class of 185, both their goal was to be on the main card in a debut debut, and Drake is to please. He lost his mind. He went on Twitter and he was telling everybody, How can I with all these fights and all that I've done have to jerk the curtain for this guy making a debut. And if you think it's a skill issue, then just put me in there with him. I won't fight him, but I'm taking that main card spot. You had the light heavyweight get hurt. You had to shuffle the deck, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and police comes up. But this is an incredible reign to go from undercard in December to right now. He was supposed to have fought for the world title on a brand new television network in front of a sold out arena. I mean, it was a really big difference, and as he starts getting his come ups, they go, OK, you're going to have to prove it. Here's the hardest guy we have not named Izzy. His name is Robert Whittaker, and nobody not named Izzy has been able to deal with this guy. Three kids goes out there. He beat them. He looked like a top five ever. Five middleweights, ever. That could be that guy that Whittaker had to deal with. Everything's going his way, and we all knew going in. If he wins, he's going to go in September on this brand new television deal opposite out of Sonia hosted in Australia. Like all of these, things were put in place to the extent that they blew Izzy in and sat him in the front row because he knew he was going to come face to face with whoever the winner was. Something happened within that interview. If you watch the body language of diplomacy, something happen. They keep a camera on him. They fade to black, roll the credits. But now you go over the internet, they show him coming through the curtain. He's still sweaty, has got a t shirt on. They're going to take his gloves in and decompose them. They're going to hand him his check. All those things that you do. Somebody puts a camera on him in the very first thing he says when they ask him about his new fight with on a sign he is. I want to talk about Robert Whittaker. So they go to the Whittaker thing and they ask him again. And he says, You know, I'd rather not talk about Izzie. I think I'd like to talk about Robert Whittaker. So then he goes to the press conference and now he does have a shirt on, but he's still sweaty. He's still hot in the moment they ask him out on a signing. And it was one of those extremely rare occasions, right? Every time you go to a press conference, Dana has to say the same thing as well. Let's see what will happen. It's extremely anti-climactic. This is one of the very few times we know what's going to happen. The whole reason we help this fight is to know what's going to happen. And he says it a third time. I don't want to talk about him. I want to talk about sharing the cage with Whittaker. And I've got some. I've got some injuries. I've got some things I might want to rehab. It's like, Man, you've got the right to do that. Every want, but every fighter in history would tell you right there in the moment they hold up their foot and go, My God, look how swollen this thing is. I'm going to begin with my dog. I want to do that, but I got to get some ice on this. He had like these mystery injuries that he never disclosed. He took a couple of days to get his head around. It decided to defer to a foot, and I'm just saying it didn't feel right, and I'm not accusing him of faking a fight to get out of that. I know that he faked the injury. What I'm saying is sometimes you can't run those bad, right? Like, it's really hard to imagine the voices against Strickland. The U.S. is going to go, OK, we're going to give you a chance to fight a guy who did what you were unwilling to do. He shocked the world in doing it, but we're going to give you a chance to go in and steal his thunder without ever having to do the one thing that you really didn't want to do, and it just doesn't work that way. I can't think of a time in history where it worked that way. And I bring it to you because he thinks he's the number one contender. I don't disagree it. He's a total stud. Whatever got in the way, though. It got in the way, and I don't think there's any way to get to a bill if your name is Duplessis without going through how to sign it, so whether you can get them now both of you are contenders or are you going to wait your turn till he becomes champion? You got to do it again. I don't think there's any scenario where the UFC allows duplicity to be champion unless he goes through Adesanya. I agree 100 percent and I don't know what's going on there, but I do think Du'Plessis too. You know, he whenever you turn down a moment like this, even if you even if you hurt, let's say, you know, he was actually hurt by turning that down. Dana does not for you know this better anyone, especially me. Dana doesn't reward that they're not going to reward you with a title shot with Strickland because you turned down the fight against Izzie. I just don't see the UFC rewarding it, even though the fan base I see a lot of, you know, DDP ddp for the, you know, let him fight Strickland. There's just no way Dana is going to reward him turning down a fight to get, you know, on paper, an easier fight at the title shot to your point. I don't see it happening. I just don't. People like, Oh, what's your what's your issue with DDP? I have no issue with. I think he's a phenomenal fighter. He's so awkward. He's really a tough night in the office for anybody. My issue is the way he's carried himself since he's beat Whittaker. Not might not be him. Maybe it's someone in his ear. Maybe it's his team. But either way, over history, Dana doesn't reward that stuff, so I'm going based off that. I think the Paulo Costa Hamzat is going to get the next shot. Hands down bar none. I think they announce that well, and what an interesting one that one has. I mean, not for another, but Paulo Costa and Chimayo gets made like five months ago. Apollo Crews is going through a contract dispute. They get the contract done and they give him in October on Fight Island Hospital. You great, great. Everybody's run with that. You could ask either one of those guys or their camp to their trainers or their girlfriends, for that matter. Everybody knows that's the fight. It never gets announced officially. And then all of a sudden for Salt Lake City. Paulo Costa is going to come and fight with a Russian gentleman. I don't condescend. I don't know how to say the guys name. I'm going to call a Russian gentleman, so they're going to fight. That's returning Paulo Costa to Salt Lake. That's where he had that knockdown drag out with Luke Rockhold, who's running the blood on a tough fight. You bet. They try to pad that card, get some ticket sales. That's they return him home. Fine. Now, Jamal is left with nobody to the point that it looked like Jared Cannonier purely because nobody else would do the job. All right, fine. One week before you're supposed to get on the plane. So training camp is done. The weight loss, for the most part, is done one week before Paulo Costa is supposed to board a plane in Brazil and fly to Salt Lake. The UFC pulls that fight and they keep the Russian on the card. They give them a new opponent, but they pull Paulo Costa in in the history of the UFC. I've seen them lose fight. Somebody get sick. Somebody gets hurt. I know that they change things. I've never seen them break up a fight. They try to bring the card to the audience as close to what they said they were going to do as possible. So they pull Paulo Costa and then it gets revealed. He's not hurt and he's not sick. He's going to go fight tomorrow in October and Fight Island, which was the initial plan to start with. They got in their own way, realize we need to do it over and they do it over here. But imagine this brand. If you're Paulo Costa, your manager has done his job, your coaches have done his job, all your sparring partners have done their job, they're going to want to get paid. So all of a sudden you get a call all the work that you've done with health, illness or injury or fault, do you? We're taking it back and you're going to go do it in October. I don't think you could get a yes out of him unless you sweeten the pot and to sweeten the pot means you promised him this would be a number one contender's Macri. I think that promise has already been made. It's been stated publicly by Dana that if Chimayo declares one eighty five, which is to be identified by Let's 170 go and he has one victory that he will then go on to fight for the belt. So it just looks like that's the number one contender's match. I think the two places is a floating target. I think he's out there the ninth. And he argued that, oh, Nicole shouldn't be on pay per view and he should or the night the same night that he said, I'll fight Bonakele. It seems like there's an opportunity right now, like if you're both there because you're not getting a world title fight, it doesn't matter who the opponent is, you're not giving that opportunity. Why not go give the next best thing? Why not go get a guy that's in line? It just seems like for middleweights, if they could open their eyes and see what's going on in their landscape, there's a lot of guys to go after. There's a lot of guys that could put you in a position to then eventually leave for the title. That was one thing that was cool about Sean Strickland. He never talked about the belt. He just talked about. Opportunities in the bell happen to be a byproduct. OK, fine. But it's one of the reasons why has a six to one underdog. We were still willing to come along the journey. We're still willing to watch him because it was never about the belt. He wants to beat this guy for whatever his reasons were. I actually missed the whole Chinese thing. I know that he brought that into it. I don't actually know what he's referencing. I think it was like a commercial or something. You know, the Chinese story as it pertains not to Sonya. I heard it secondhand, but from what I heard is, is he proclaimed his love for China because is he used to have some sort of contract with China? With kickboxing, and he went over there and just loved the culture in the off season, embraced over there. So he wore the he wore the Chinese color, you know, shorts. And again, I forgot to mention this. I think part of the reason what made Trigon so big and so lovable illness was a lot of mistakes by Izzy. Take it, take off in the octagon as it made a lot of mistakes. I think the way the marketing. He had some miscues. You know, with the whole dog stuff was a little strange, little off putting, I think, for people. And then also the Chinese shorts. Now we know for the most part, unless you're living under a rock, is he's not Australian. You know, is he is not Australian, but he's sure as hell not Chinese. So I think it was a total miscalculation is his part to represent the Chinese colours, and I think that put the Australian fans. Who is he again? Is an Australian. I think that put a lot more chips in Strickland's corner that day and you saw the applause that he got. And then if you watched the broadcast and you turn the volume up is he's getting quite amount of boos when he's walking out to the octagon for a lot of boos. I think if you're not familiar with the story, why are they booing Izzy? It's because there's a lot of miscalculations leading up to this fight. People didn't like a lot of things that he was doing. So again, that that I think adds value to him getting a rest, taking a long break. Let people forget about this, let the division figure itself out and then jump back in. But my question for you tell the Tabernacle, There's nobody I'm hearing, you know, I'm all up on Bo's nuts. I'm on ham za'atari nut. I'll have both guys. If you're Bo Nichols management, what are you telling him? You're telling him, Let, let's shoot for the stars. So you're ready to take on a is because he beats him. We're by going to title next. Do you think he's ready for that or does he need one or two more, maybe in the outside of the top five? I know where my head's at, my brain, my pretty high tempo question, because you said if you're the management, so I mean, if you're the management, I think you sit back and go bow, it pays. The same bow is the biggest favorite in UFC history for his last fight. Twenty four hundred. Right? Biggest ever. No fight is ever gone. But if you're the managers, you would say no. It pays the same to take on the top guys or to fight these guys that they're signing just to fight you, your overnight bonuses and your eligibility for that. All of this pays the same. I believe you can beat all of the tough guys. Why bother? You haven't left the first round yet, and you're getting the same paychecks as if you would if you were a co-main event. I mean, not for nothing. In a pretty sweet spot now, Bo the competitor. Yes, I've known him basically his whole life. Of course, he wants to go in and do some of those big matches. He doesn't know quite how to get them. And he does have a code. He's a very polite and he's a gentleman, and he's not willing to sell that part of himself for the business. So it's going to be a little bit of a longer path. But it just does seem like there is a massive opportunity. I mean, do please? He just called him out. That was in December. They placed him on the same card. Bo was ahead. I mean, not for nothing. You can't say that Bo doesn't qualify for Tbilisi, qualified for the same card, and whoever placed it put him three spots above him. Somebody already thinks he's done a good job, not to mention he hasn't lost since. I just think there's opportunity to go after some of these other guys, and I feel that people miss it. I'll use an example, which is Henry Cejudo. Henry knows he's not going to get Sean O'Malley right now, so Henry's trying to get him, Rob. It's not because he wants to fight Rob. He just realizes if I can't get this, let me get the next best thing, which will put me in line for something else. And I feel like that's a miss all the time where guys go after, you know, the head guy. But now they've got competition. Five other guys are going for him, too. Nobody ever goes after the number one contender or the really smart guys. What a hedge. Their bet a week ago and they call out Sean Strickland. Nobody thought Sean had a chance, so nobody did it. But I'm just saying like, there's there's a different way to do this. And if you're a nickel spot and it pays the same to be the greatest favorite ever and fight guys that people haven't heard of, and they're going to put you on TV to do it. Yeah, I don't know why you would rattle that cage. Yeah, I think my line of thinking of our mismanagement. I'm going. I'm telling Dana, Hey, we'll fight the du'plessis. We'll fight the Jared Cannonier of the world. We'll even entertain the Hamzawy because we know Bo wants to fight Homs. Like you came on this show said he wanted to fight him. You know, that day he wants to fight Homs. So if I'm his bandmate, we're both down to take those top five fights. We got to talk about it. The contract, though. I know he has a big contract. So much for being, you know, just a, you know, kind of a blue chip kind of guy. You know, he doesn't have the accolades as far as in the Octagon, but if I'm his manager again, we're we're into this. We think we can beat these guys, but we got to do. We had to renegotiate this contract. I think Dan would be willing to play ball. They have the money. I think so, too. I think that you're completely right, and I just don't know how long we're going to do the same thing over and over. I mean, I'm going back to Izzy and Sean. It looks like we're going to redo it again. I'm fine with that and I understand that. But what happens if Sean? I apologize. What happens if Izzy wins? Do we all then go, well, the world has been right. It's like, Well, I don't know about that. John has dominated him. I don't know what is he could possibly do to match that level of domination. It would still seem like you're square and you've got to run him back out there again. Yeah, but the world can't always work that way. We can't just keep on doing rematches. I've never understood the situation, by the way. Justin Rose vs. your What are you? What is this big stars? You're supposed to beat up Rose. Rose catches are knocked out, so we go to a rematch. But the rematch wasn't just because we thought she Cotter wanted the belt around you wanted. This is the way the sport is supposed to be told, and Rose beats her again. So then Rose has to do that with somebody named Whaley. They fight. Rose knocks her out way. Lee never touched her, never pushed her grounder, kicked her. There was nothing about that that says rematch. There was just something that, Oh, we've got our answer. The better fighter is this young lady. They rematch up. It's a totally different fight. But Rose finds a way to beat her again. And I'm sure for you, like, there's not very many times when those fights go down that the boys don't get it right. The first time, like this is how we're going to settle this. This is what we've all agreed upon. We know when we even know the weight class, they generally get it figured out themselves the first time. So it's kind of hard to see what would be different versus Izzy and Shawn. And I don't even need to win the world over and say, Shawn's a better fighter. You can think he's a better fighter. It could be a matchup issue. Either way, I don't know how we're going to convince the audience that a different result is likely to happen. And I think it's a challenge because if it does happen, I don't think they're going into the third fight and I don't think Shawn is going to get shown. The same respect that he's showing is it's just an early prediction, but I'll make that comment. I'm with your brother outside the UFC. Are you following any of this Logan Paul Dillon Danis stuff? Even though the the co-main event? I mean, it's hard to miss it. What you with the business we're in? It's interesting. It's interesting because, you know, even you know the comments you made about the Nogueira brothers are Anderson Silva. We knew it was a, you know, a character, and it is the very WBC of you, these young kids man, the Jake Pauls of the world, Dillon Danis, is the cases the Logan Paul's do. There is there's just no. Nothing's out of limits and nothing's off limits. It's just these guys just go for blood man. Girlfriend's is, you know, dead dad's friends. It's just it's like first rule of Fight Club. Be cool, man, be cool, you know? Yeah, man, I've followed every single bit of it. I feel terrible. I feel terrible. That belongs in a lawsuit, though. I mean, you know, that's just a pain in the a*s that's going to take a little while. But I mean, this co-main event has so greatly outshined the main event. I feel like those guys, maybe it would give them a little emphasis to pick up their game. I mean, that is the most sought after boxing match going on right now, and I know how silly or amazing that is to say that. Yeah, I know. I've never heard them talk about boxing, you know, all this kind of effort. So I'm going to go shop. I mean, my coach, I've never heard them talk about boxing yet, and I'm still looking forward to it. You know, the lawsuit. Can I tell you a lawsuit story? Get a load of this. So because it would seem like Dylan could tell Jake, Hey, man, or tell Logan, Hey, the gig is up, you gotta make her drop this lawsuit like, we're done boxing. We are now done. I don't want this following me around. You got to make her do that. I was in Canada fighting with Bo Dogg. Matt Lindland, who's my cornerman and roommate, goes out on the town with Phil Baroni, who happened to be his arch nemesis at the time. But but they go out and we're all in one room like you remember those days where the budgets were so low. So I know when Matt left and I know when Matt comes back because the door makes noise and it wakes me up and I said, Where have you been? Because it was so late you suddenly go out for a couple hours. I said, Where are you, Ben? He says, I've been in jail. Go back to sleep. It's like you've been in jail and I'm cut way. You know, I'm hurt. Like, I kind of want this sleep just to escape the torture cutting weight. He's like, Yeah, I've been in jail. I got bailed out. Go back to sleep. It's like, No, no, no, no, no, I. So now I'm setting up the lights on like, OK, tell me everything. Well, they were at some kind of a bar and the woman was cleaning the tables and whenever whatever spray stuff she is, it's like sprayed Matt. So Matt, like, grabbed it and like, told her, you know, don't don't point that at me. She calls the police for. Violence, battery, whatever you call this, it turns out that she is the girlfriend of one of the top biker gang members in town. And this biker gang, if I could produce their name, I never did know, but they were fighting a what we like four or five of them on a card and all their friends would come and watch this. Hold that thought. Fast forward in Russia. Three months later, this lawsuit is still going, which means Matt is to get a legal team and go to the country of Canada. It's a total nightmare over this misdemeanor spraying this chemical. OK. Matt puts a Copenhagen in lunch, one of the biker gang members says, Can I have a dip? And when he doesn't realize is they don't sell loose tobacco outside of America, at least not in those countries, so we couldn't get any Copenhagen. And that puts it in, and it looks at how much he has left, and he tells the guy, No, don't have enough. I'm in the same spot as you like, you're out, but I'm going to run out. I can't share it. And the guy goes, I'll give you one hundred bucks for whatever in that camp. And the guy says, because I don't even know what's left in the kid. I'll give you one hundred for the whole camp. And Matt sincerely thinks, and he goes, Make that lawsuit go away and you can have the camp and the guy goes. If I if I make the losses, but when you give me the kid, Matt Sleight gives him the can. That guy made one phone call, and we never heard about that lawsuit again, which I think is an amazing story. But I bring it to you because like in some regard, it's like Logan Paul. You're getting points, you're getting received on this. Whether Dylan went about this the way you want it to or not, he already started. He can't stop until belt on. We all understand. Make that go away. You got got no idea for the s**t, right? The dispute is settled here. We all walk away. Claim agree on two percent. I don't like it from Logan Paul or his fiancee. It's also Logan Paul. You signed a deal with Dillon Danis. There's this guy. He's a troll. It's what he does. And I like Dylan. You know, I'll say it on record. I'm a fan of Dylan and it when you made that deal, he said, OK, I'll take the fight, but I'm going to sell this thing. Dylan goes, Please do. It's more money for Migos. OK. And that's what he's doing. And that's all anybody's style miles. Dylan Dennis's antics. And now you want to sue the guy that you've got to know who you're going to bed with. Man, you made a deal with the devil and now you don't like the way he's playing, but he's selling this thing. Whether I agree with it or not, which I don't, but it's still in darkness. You made this deal, man, and now you're going to discipline them in a lawsuit. Come on. I just I don't like it. I don't like Cross Board. I don't like that. Dylan started going for his fiancee but decided to do it and not only decide to do it, but it's gaining all this attraction. Why we're talking about the fight, otherwise we're not talking about it. And then Logan doesn't like the way he's selling the fight, even though it's kind of brilliant. Even though I don't agree with it, it's brilliant getting millions and millions and millions of views every time we post. And now you're going to discipline the guy and lost and you got a lawsuit. I just the whole thing just doesn't make me feel good when I talk about Dylan Logan. I don't feel good about it. I'll watch the fight now and now, hopefully to, you know, Dylan has pulled out of several fights. I think he shows up for this one. I would assume he shows up for this one. It would seem like if you could get those two guys in a room like no cameras, nobody knows what goes on. I feel like they could reason with one another where we're Logan is going to go, Hey man, I have a responsibility to this girl and I've got to do everything I can to protect her, you understand. And Dylan is going to go, Hey, I fully get it. I didn't know this was going to work this well. But Logan, make sure you understand. How else was I going to build the fight? There's no scenario where we talk about common opponents or we talk about back in the day when we were coming up through the Junior Olympics and we sparred together where the training can't wait. I'm not a boxer and you're not a boxer. I'm willing to box and you have box, but neither. Like, what do you want me to turn to except for making it personal? Not to mention, I only put out photos that I found online the rest of the world saw anyway. I mean, I feel as though Logan would probably go, Yeah, OK. I mean, you really, you're the one to build you a whole lot. You hope nobody goes. I get it. And he's like, Logan. Also, look, tell me another route to go. Any time I post your girl, it's one of them. Got nine million views, dude. But what is Kaci doing to sell this thing? And that's your that's your teammate. That's your boy in prime. He's not doing s**t. So this is my only angle. And to your point, I think he would go. You're right. My bad, you're right. But you know, there's just these kids are savages, men, absolute savages. They have no there's no line they won't cross, and that's what they signed up for. Before I get out of here, you posted a video on the BTK Killer. Now you talk to my language. I got my black belt and serial killers. I got my master's degree in serial killers. I am Mr. Serial Killer. Talk to me. Jail. What's BTK? He's my least favorite because he killed kids. He's my least favorite. My favorite Richard Ramirez. I'm a Ted Bundy fan and Jeffrey Dahmer fan of, you know, I'm not a fan of what they did. I'm sorry. Committed these horrible people. BTK is my least favorite. He's a horrible human being. I think he is probably the worst serial killer we've ever had because the way he went about it and killing kids and make them watch him killed, you know, their siblings. Terrible person. You decided to break down BTK Killer. Watch the video here. I haven't seen it. My my teen told me to go jails into serial killers. I won't say what. And you? I think you went with Richard Ramirez, wasn't he? The Night Stalker? That's the Night Stalker type handsome guy. All these women were trying to marry him while he was on death row, by the way. Everyone says Ted Bundy. It's Richard Ramirez best look and serial killer of all time. The interesting thing with BTK is when he made his confession. I mean, they already had him. They had him and they were going to sentence him to death. But when he goes in, the judge tells him, I have to live with this decision as much as you have to die with this decision. Now I know this is written down. I know what you told the prosecutors, but I need to hear you say it. Let's start at story one. Tell me about the Williamson family. I'm throwing names in, but he starts at the beginning and he was extremely candid and he spoke for an hour and forty five minutes and he confessed everything. To your point, the kid's sexual assaults after they were dead. I mean, things that you wouldn't even ask. Things that are going to get you the death penalty. But he retold the story in such a chilling way. It was as though a middle aged man looked back at the high school football game that he was very proud of. Like BTK did this as though he was enjoying it and he was extremely calm. And the reason that's relevant is when he got to the end. And the judge said if we missed anything and he said no, everyone believed him, well, it's terrible of a guy is this was the one thing they didn't think he was was a liar because he was so good with the details. So all these years later, the house that he lived in at the time of the crimes and his daughters turned on it. I mean, she's written books. You know what it's like being his daughter and the wife. They've done their best to move on. They go through the house that he once lived in, and I assume they've sold the house and maybe they've sold it a couple of times. That's one part of the detail that I don't have is who had access to the house, but I think it was somebody down the road at any point brings you to last week they found two trap doors and the police as much as they searched it, and the wife and daughter who had lived in it, nobody knew about these two trap doors. So the people call the police, the police come over, they go into the trap doors. And he had left basically a journal. He confessed to other crimes. And I will. I will tell you when he got arrested, I was a very young adult. But I just remember that bind, torture, kill BTK. And his wife would always tell him because he was a traveling salesman. He had to leave for work all the time, and his wife would tell him how scared she was when he was gone because we've got this criminal around. And he said he almost did this for comic relief. But he said by let her know she was going to be just fine. And that was supposed to be like, this funny. Yeah. And there was something that was humorous and say, Remember, it's in her mind. When I heard that 20 some years ago, no one, I heard that saying, Wait a minute, he's a serial killer and he's on the road. Somebody should be cross-referencing where he went up against cold case files held up against the way those bodies were found. But that was never thought to do because he was so candid and so open about what he did. Well, sure. Right now, he left this journal and he had taken trophies, and just by example, there was a girl who went missing in Oklahoma, and the last known photograph was taken by her friend on something called a Polaroid, which used to be very popular within that Polaroid. She's wearing a blue shirt that or purple. Rather, that purple shirt was found in one of the crawl spaces, along with a note in his journal about killing this girl in Oklahoma. So now that we've found out he killed at least the girl in Oklahoma, how many others are there hundreds? How many more girls did he kill? And nobody really knows they were really stunned. Like pathologists and whatnot, forensics experts were stunned to find out there was anyone he didn't mention because he loved it. He was so open he's done writings on. He was so open. Now it turns out there's an entire potentially Pandora's box, and that's why he made the news. And by the way, you want us, you want to speak about the killers. What about the guy that went that went upside down in Pennsylvania? They still haven't found that guy. Yeah, man. I think it's interesting with the if you're the BTK killer, you have nothing to lose, man. Just tell us what's going on. You're never getting out. Just give us the info, dude. Why be secret about this? Especially, you know, if they're trophies to him, that's what that gigolo beach killer out there, that they caught that guy. He's interested in. They're actually looking into this because he had a lot of business in Arizona, then also outside of Seattle. He had a storage unit outside Seattle. I think so. He's another guy. And there's a lot of cold cases out there. They're going to start looking into that as well. So it's all weird, man. And also, you know, when you're talking about Richard Ramirez, BTK. Ted Bundy, Dahmer, Ed Gaines, Kemper, all these guys that was like the the golden age of serial killers. And they have all these cool names and their t shirts and documentaries on Netflix. Those days are over. There's something like 60 over 65. I think. Sixty eight serial killers are active today in North America, but they don't give him cool names anymore. So, so these guys, you know, become like Little Dick Killer, whatever they don't get like, you know, Night Stalker and BTK. They they they got smart about the media, got smart. Finally, the mainstream media were like, we got to stop giving these guys cool names so we don't hear about them any more. But there's there's over 60, which is 11. Currently active circle is unsolved cases, though, chin, that's unsolved cases. There's over 60, I think, right now. So it's interesting that you mention Real briefly, Ed Kemper. But yeah, that's not a serial killer. Extremely chilling. They've got the highest I.Q.. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. And the Ice Man is a very interesting one. The Ice Man is what stone cold Steve Austin credits for coming up with his character of Stone Cold Steve Austin. Oh man, that was just, you know, stone cold. And yeah, those short man. When you start going down that rabbit hole of serial killer, it's hard to stop. I used to grow up on a show called Unsolved Mysteries, and on Sunday nights it was called America's Most Wanted, and it was never missed. But I remember trying to sleep those nights, you know, like as a little kid, I remember thinking, I'd never watch this again, never watch these shows again. Like, they have an effect on you. Oh, I'm 40. Do you have nightmares? And sometimes my girls like, stop watching and reading this crap. Like, I can't. I can't. Mr. Chilton, you're the best. You're the you're the only guy I want to talk to you about the state of the middleweight division, the UFC, the WB merger, the UFC. You're the best man. The absolute best. You're awesome. I appreciate you, Brendan. Have a good day, brother. I brother appreciate you.