OCD, Comedy, and Cannabis with Mike Glazer

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Hello. My name is Andrew Chappelle. And my name is Cody Rigsby. And if you've recently gone from blonde to brunette, this is your weekly episode of tactful pettiness. And it is a glorious colorful day today in the studio. Well, it is I feel like I I wore the wrong thing today. You know what? You wore what you were moved to wear. Well, it it was what was accessible, and I I there was a sweatshirt that was orange, but it was too much, and then it was gonna clash with yours. And so, like, I'm just gonna let you and our guest be the star while I look like Freddy Krueger. So It's okay. Yeah. I wore full disclosure. I wore this sweater special for our guest because It's fitting. She likes colorful woven moments. Mhmm. Also gingham. Oh. So can see in their background. Yes. So if you haven't picked up on the context clues of who our guest is or even just simply seen it in the description of this episode, may I introduce to you the it girl, Dylan Mulvaney? I wanna say, Cody, I think you are sort of this, like, gradient of from Andrew's sweater to what I'm giving with my, like, monoclonal ink. Okay. I feel that. And I wanna applaud you for being able to pull off gingham. Not everybody can, and you're doing it well. I also I can pull off doing a Zoom from bed. You sure can. You are you are perched and comfortable. Like, you look very comfortable right now. Well, I would thank you. I feel, if you do you should be where you do your best work, and this is where I do it all. We're all happening. And that's that's an advertisement for several things. Okay? I do my best work in bed. So, Dylan, I've known you for quite some time now. Honey, many years Truly, truly, truly. This interview. You've been waiting for the interview? Been been waiting for. I mean, it's it's it's how much do we go in on each other. I know. Wait. Did y'all go to school together? No. So I I met Dylan through my ex Paul. Oh. And, and then I saw Dylan a few times throughout my, limited tenure in LA I see. Which I remember. Yes. Yeah. Which you also were a part of. Well, yes. But, Dylan, I feel like I don't I don't know if Andrew's ever told you this, but you were a topic of conversation long before the Internet fame because Yes. It was the it was this I believe it was the summer of twenty twenty two, and we were just two homosexuals on Fire Island having a discussion about gender identity. And both of us were kind of just, like, confused, didn't know. And then he was like, well, my friend Dylan, at the time, you were non binary, and we and so we were just talking about that and, like, kind of educating ourselves on it. So then I started to follow you and follow your career and follow everything you were doing. And you have been such a influential part of my understanding of gender identity. Like, I'm and I'm not just, like, blowing smoke up your a*s. Like, truly, I've seen your journey. I've seen your transformation, and it's been so lovely to see and educational at the same time. You've been educating the people. Cody, get this. Please. Uh-oh. We met far before. Oh, wow. Twenty nine the year's 2019. Okay. Fresh out of the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music, I am. Okay. And I was the talent wrangler for the Peloton convention. Oh, wow. Oh my god. I was the one or something like that. Was that what it was? It was homecoming, honey. Yeah. And I was in charge of taking you from place to place. Oh my god. Water bottles. Okay. And was I a diva? And how was that? You were amazing. You took your job very seriously. Okay. You were one of the nicer ones. Oh, oh, oh, on the record. On the record. And but in but it was so interesting because I didn't know what Peloton well, I I took a job. Like, I I was only working those, like, you know, those those brand ambassador companies that would, you know they had me one day handing out deodorant wipes at, like, Penn Station. Got it. And then the next day, I'm, you know, walking Cody around this this convention. And so I was like, I don't know what this is, but people just died for it. I've I've never seen this, like, this frenzied look in people's eyes as they're trying to collect stickers of of stationary bikes. It was so funny. What a phenomenon. A small little world. It really is. So we're all connected. I know that hustle because when I first moved to New York, I used to work for, like, a experimental marketing company and do gigs like that. So I I do know that life very well. I thought it was like, I can't have a job that means more like, like, it needs to be something that isn't permanent and that, like, I don't care about more than performing. So, like because I just knew I'd be the type where if I, like, worked at retail, all of a sudden, I'd be the the district manager of an anthropology ten years later, and I've never once stepped into Pearl Studios. So I knew that about myself. Well, yeah, you have to do the gig work so that you're making money to pay the rent, but that you also have the availability to go on the audition, do the gig. Mhmm. I know that life very, very well. Mhmm. Very well. So speaking of gingham Please. This is so so our listeners know, Dylan has a book that's coming out in March that I Congratulations. That I've almost finished reading. I'm at the I'm in the last chapter where you talk about the guy that you meet. Oh. And I am on I'm on the edge of my seat. But Dylan has made the corners of her pages of the book Gingham. Gingham. Well, I mean, it there there's a a branding situation going on. Also because hers is in color. Ours is in black and white. Well, because This is even more gorgeous. She has the color Oh, you have the hard you have the hardcover. That's why. We gotta get you one of these. There's also there's also, like, a second cover with an illustration on the front of her paper doll. It's Dylan's version. Oh. So cute. You know, if your publisher, maybe for a bonus, could send out printable Dylan paper dolls. You know, that's just an idea. Just an idea. Because I I've been through the process. Honey? Oh. Oh. Oh, I need files are didn't know. Which Oh. I think I can say that I've got a collab with Lush Cosmetics for a Dylan bath bomb Gorgeous. That we needed. It the the world isn't right. I worked there as a 16 year old. Oh. Me, and now I got a f**king bath bomb. And so we're we're we're in it, baby. Isn't that such a great full circle moment? Do you like baths? I love baths. Unfortunately, I do not because I am six foot two and a half, and I cannot fit into a bathtub. I have one in my apartment, and I've taken some good baths in your bathtub. Oh, yes. You have? Oh, I've enjoyed getting baths. There. The minute I sit in there, the water's gonna overflow. It's so deep. I love how deep your bath is. And then you take a bath here. You're not that much shorter than me. I I make it work. I like baths. And so but Dylan also loves baths. Yeah. That makes sense. All loves baths. I know. Well, he does love baths, and that he actually got me back into taking baths. I wasn't a big bath person until I dated him. He loves a bath. I That would be my scam. Baths? Baths? Yeah. Actually, bathing? Yes. No. Not bathing. No. Not bathing. Baths. Said that. Because I can't fit in there. It's too hot when you get in. The warmth only lasts for a little bit of time. Then I'm cold. Cool. Why am I swimming around? Refill it. You're swimming in your dirt. I wanna emphasize that. How dirty are you when you get in? You didn't work at a farm. Do you know how hard it is also to, like, wash my face and hair in there? I have to, like, dunk and then come back up. It's Imagine having this hair. Like, you have to plop. You guys need to luxuriate in the bath, first of all. You need to it's not just a quick thing. You need to soak. You let some of the water go out. You put when you water in candle? Absolutely light a candle. And I know you light a candle. I many. Velaspas. Oh. Oh. She's rich, honey. But I I will say I might have to if our scam is baths, I'm f**king out of here. So that's the only real thing I know in this world. Okay. Not too much on our girls' baths. Baths. Okay. Well, not to give too much away in the book, but you have a really beautiful passage when you were going through what you were going through with beer Beargate and all of the horrible things that transpired after that. And you were saying how one of the only places that you felt safe was in that bath with Lily. Oh my god. I was so because as you're saying it, I was like, what is he talking I was like, wait. When did I take a bath in the book? True. I mean, it's the killer speaking you know, I was gonna say speaking of Wendy Williams, no one's speaking of I was literally gonna say the Wendy Williams killer. Yeah. We're always speaking of her. Killer. If the killer is coming, harder to grab you when you're in the bathtub. I'm just saying. Slippery. You're gonna slip right out of their grasp. Slippery. Especially especially if you got that lush Dylan bath bomb in there. Okay. And that and this is a This is an ad. This is how you promote a product. By the way, I saw six last night. I saw your classmate, Jill Ginny Molay. Oh, me and her had a good time back in the day. I know. I she was a good time girl. You know what's funny? It's, like, it's not even my classmates that, like, knew me as a full on man. It's the fact that they knew me as a partier in a way that no other b***h does. Y'all went in. Because I remember I remember, being shown videos of y'all partying, and I was like, wow. They really, y'all they did that at college. I mean, I think it was, like, the bangers era. You know what I mean? Like, it was What an incredible time to be alive. Oh, god. Yeah. And what a time to be in college. Like, that was yeah. We had a I love Ohio. I love Cincinnati. I I loved going to school there, and musical theater degrees are they're they're still kicking. Do you like that chili that they have with this with the with the f**king noodles? No. No. No. I don't either. That's a scam. That's a scam. Nobody wants that chili with the egg. Though. They like it. Cody to eat it when he First of all, I don't eat meat, and also I don't eat vegetables or fruit. So but then the one time that I did have to eat it, I, like, made it all four years basically without doing it until the last year. It Faith Prince is this, like, Broadway Diva that, like, came back into town, and I was in charge of kind of shepherding her around, as I was you, Cody, at the Peloton event. I'm just I am that girl that is You are. You know, it's the talent wrangler. And she was like, we're going to Skyline, and you are eating it. And I was like, oh, god. Okay. I'm doing it for the Broadway diva. I I didn't love it. I didn't. You did now? It's it's nasty. I'm sorry to everybody in Cincinnati, Ohio that loves and is very proud of that chili with the spaghetti on it. It's it's an o for me. It's it's not it doesn't taste good. It there's no way it's good for your bowels. Like, it's just it's a mess. I have I have another little tidbit, a development, if you will, on this subject. So so Dylan and I went to the same college at different times. On my group thread with my class, it has just come across that Grater's ice cream, which is a famous Cincinnati ice cream, They now have a Skyline chili flavored ice cream. Prison. Wow. Death penalty. Lethal injection. No. Mixed with an electrocution chair. No. Thank you. Baby, what? I can get behind some weird s**t because but I I don't think I can I I can't do that? That's not chili ice cream is not on the trans agenda. I'll tell I'll tell I don't know what the agenda is, but if there's one thing that's not on it, it's that. 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We've been a little Depressica, but we're going to Miami this weekend. Yeah. I'm hoping we're gonna go to the house. Well, Andrew, the last time I saw you was at Sunset Boulevard, and, I mean, that that's gonna get me through for another few weeks. Oh, man. What an experience that was. Did you just, like, run into each other by accident? Or Yeah. We we were both waiting to go backstage, and we bumped into each other. And I was like, you're coming on the podcast. Wait. Did you meet Nicole? No. I didn't meet Nicole. Did you meet Nicole? No. I was there for my friend Sydney. Oh. Yeah. I was there for not Nicole, but I didn't even see Nicole back there. She probably went home. Saw Nicole on stage. Oh, yeah. Nicole was on the stage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hear that Nicole doesn't miss many performances. Ren, don't shake your head. Do you know Ren? Ren's hot take is that Sunset Boulevard wasn't that great. I saw it in London. I left wanting to rob a bank, and I could not stop thinking about anything else. And then when I went to New York and saw it again and Andrew Chappelle was there, I also wanted to rob a bank. Wren, do you wanna explain? Yeah. Well, go ahead. Let let's let's open the floor to Wren for a moment. Cody closeted theater girl. I've never Fair. Seen him so excited about a show ever. Like, he was like, you need to see it. It's incredible. So I was like, this must be, like, the greatest show of all time. And I went in with that lens. And I had seen Oh, Mary two days prior, which I loved, so that also kind of just it was more of expectation of reality. I thought it was good. I got you. I just it was it was given a lot like say it was the greatest show I've ever seen, but it was one of the greatest performances by an actress that I have ever seen, if I'm gonna be honest. Nicole to me, I know she's your girl. She's the girl who formed one direction for me. That's weird. We got we have to change this take up that I like I'm kidding. That's That's so rude. The acting, the singing the dancing. Hold on. You're diminishing a woman's accomplishments because she made a men's group? No. I'm saying how much I love her because of that. Don't get me. She's gonna get me. Much more. You're not gonna get me. And so I I'm saying I love her, respect her, but I'm not, like, obsessed with her catalog. Anyways, I thought it was good. Well, this is a really good lesson because I That was a learning lesson. Have fallen victim to this with many theater productions actually where they get overhyped to me, and then I go to see them with a really high expectation, and then they disappoint me. So I try when I see Hart Now Anything to go in with no expectations because then I enjoy it the most. So what did you think of all the cameras that didn't take you out of it? Oh, I liked it. I love that. That was a brand new storytelling device we've never seen. Well, I'd seen it in West Side Story. Remember in West Side Story? Yes. Right before the pandemic where we went to I mean, all, like COVID. Yeah. We went to see West Side Story in January of twenty twenty. And every time an old lady, with a, cough lozenge had a a coughing attack, we we've I've touched on my my spine. My spine has never been more erect than when I heard those coughs in that theater. Oh, those pre masks. Yeah. It was. Not a mask inside a baby. Mask. But, you know, I I think that this production of Sunset Boulevard took those concepts that were used in West Side Story, and they just kind of, yes, handed them. The opening credits, I thought, was really cool. The ending credits, amazing. But I didn't really notice the cameras as much as I thought I was going to. Only when he was outside in in the beginning of the second act. That's what he was aware. Fairs. Like, I'll give him that. Oh, so that was the one thing I did. I it felt a little too gimmicky. Oh, I liked it. I liked it. That was my favorite part. Okay. Thank you. Well, my favorite part was Nicole. Like, the what's the biggest song that she sings in the beginning? The fir like, one of the first songs. We have one look. I guess it was gorgeous. Anyway She's talking about how, honey, she could she could turn turn the kids out with one look. Oh. Okay. All you need is one look for me, honey, and they're gonna be lined up around the block. Dylan, do you have a show here in the city? I need a few looks to get them. But, You need a few looks? I feel like your closet must be full of looks. I I no. Like, facially, I wanna Oh, got it. Oh, I see. I see. I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Of the limited movement that I still have. I, did not do I did a show in in London in Edinburgh last year. Oh. Please tell us about it. Oh my god. f*g hag. Basically, like, the twink to straight woman pipeline. Okay. We're well we're well versed on that. I went to were you ever a twink? No. No. Yeah. Oh my god. I think seen the pictures. Right now. Baby, we were all twinks. I don't know if I would consider myself a twink. Was I, like, skinnier and not in shape? Sure. But I don't know if I would say I was a twink. Yeah. Whether you thought of yourself as a twink and whether you were a twink. I don't know if I would I I am not quite sure. I don't think I don't think you're a twink. I don't think, Just Google favorite 2019. No. No. No. No. No. It's 2019. I mean, I was I was Cody's talent wrangler. I know it. I was the twink. Yeah. I was the twink in 2019. Oh my god. Dylan, I I remember I don't know if it was the first time I met you, but I just remember thinking you were so cute. You were so tiny, this little waist. We were we were having, like, hibachis in place, and Dylan breezed in in a Comme des Garcons shirt. Always. In the I mean, little little size twenty four skinny jeans. I couldn't Twenty four? Babe, I cannot I couldn't imagine her like, Dylan having the same internal organs that I have in my body. I was like, how is she alive? How is everything in there? I I think about that a lot. I want and I wonder. Oh, do you like, do we have of the same the same things inside? I'm like, how do they all fit into you? I mean, mine's Taco Bell. My I mean, that's what I was that's what we're we're what's he Show show Dylan. This is a twink. Off that. I don't know if that's a twink. This is a twink in this picture. That's that's a that's a twink. That's a twink. My god. This is breaking news. Cody was a twink. I was wrong. It was 2014. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Well And that's and that was a twink era. I was a twink with everybody because my twink death had happened, and I'm better for it. Okay? Listen. Let's discuss these people be holding on to their Twinkdom for far too long. Don't disparage the Twink community. I actually have one of the songs in f*g hag is called God rest the Twinks, and it is my funeral for my twink self. Wait. So who wrote the music for your show? I wrote the lyrics with, well, Mark Sonnenblick, who works a lot with Benj Pasek. He wrote two of them with me, and then I wrote another one with Ingrid Michaelson. And I'm gonna write more now when the show comes back. We need more music. Because at in Edinburgh, they only let you do, sixty minutes because they, like the turnover is so crazy. So now we need we need 75, maybe 90 even. Andrew, I feel like you should be in Edinburgh. Do you know what's so funny? One of my dear friends from CCM who we were best friends freshman year, and then she actually ended up going to school in London. Her and I, just the other night, were talking about doing a show in Edinburgh. We were like, let's write something and go. And I was part of the podcast where two theater people get together and name drop every f**king person that they've ever worked with or had a coffee with, and then I'm lost because I don't know Susie Landry that you went to CCM with in February. I don't f**king know their name. Okay? I don't know their name, but I knew this was gonna happen on this episode. With Mark Rupp. Because every time I sit with him and another theater person I didn't say, Cody, you should go to Edinburgh. You can go too. Yeah. Now now what? Now what's your response? You had a lot to say just a few moments ago. Woah. Woah. Anyhow, can you can you tell us because I am actually am genuinely interested. How how was how did that whole process come about? You wrote this the show and then you submitted it and because it's, like, kind of all over. Right? I'm the doll who, like, if I'll if I think of something and I go, oh, if somebody else does this before me, I'm gonna be pissed. And so I was like, oh, f*g hag. That's a good title for something. And I was like, okay. Let's do it. So nobody else does it. And then I didn't know what the show was. My dear friend, allow me to drop another name. My dear friend, Daveed Diggs, has a famous saying I've met him. I do know him. Has a he has a famous saying that a good title should never go to waste. You did this in the proper order. You had your good title. I had my good title. I, I wrote well, then I, like, pitched, you know, an idea to producers, and then I went to write the damn thing, and it became something different. But it I I had I did it in, like, three and a half weeks, and then we threw it up there. I love procrastinating. It's amazing. And it's it's the happiest place on Earth. It is like you can go see 10 shows a day. You can go it's it's all the best parts of baby reindeer. You go to the bar after I was literally just gonna ask. I was like, isn't it baby reindeer? Yeah. That was like the yeah. That's the sad version of Edinburgh. And I'm sure there are there are many sad versions because it's theater. So Oh, there's there's a lot of one woman shows, a lot of cry I mean, I cried in mine. Everyone's crying in that city, and drinking. Oh my god. I had the time of my life. I had amazing sex. I met so many great people. Like, Kat Cohen was there with me for the summer and Friend of the pod? Friend of the pod. Friend of the pod. Thought so. Finding a Paper Doll, though, the book, that was in after the fact, needed a title and had to find something. And I like that doll is the dolls. Paper doll feels kind of two dimensional and, like, the the essence of people only knowing one side of you. And it feels kind of retro, kinda sixties like me. Very on brand. For our audience, that might be a lot of, you know, straight women. Can you can you emphasize or explain doll within the Oh, yeah. Trans community? The dolls. Okay. Doll check-in. Doll check-in. The dolls is something that, I think trans women often refer to themselves as, that it's now been extended into straight cultures that often happens, you know, with with trans culture. And it I very much had it firmly embedded in me from, like, my trans mentors that, like, doll is something that is is, like, handed to you. You don't claim it yourself until, like Like a trans elder, and then you officially become a doll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I do feel like I I dolled out, and I I I put in the effort. And I I'm giving doll now. And I love being doll. Did somebody knight you as doll? Who who gave you that? Our Lady Jay, my dear friend. Woah. Incredible writer. She she dolled me. You're a doll. She's a doll. But, yeah, I think that, like, any you know what? But I have a a different philosophy. I would say if if you if you think you're a doll, you're probably a doll. But but it does feel good to have somebody else to tell you that you're a doll. I'm only gonna ask this because you just said straight woman, but you touch on a little bit of in your book. Do you identify as a straight woman? Girl, it's a question on everyone's lips. I I'd say 80%. I like I still like queer, and I like, I I'm open to anything. I like more masculine energy, whatever that means to anyone. We're saying in a sexual context, right, here? Yeah. I think so. The queer aspect of it? Okay. Interesting. I mean, were you attracted to women before? No. I I think that when you start to question your gender, it starts to make everything else kind of, like, make you wonder in a way that you're like, oh, if I limited myself to this thing, then why would I limit myself in all these other arenas? And I think I also like, I'm a tall order. You know? Like, we got a lot going on here as far as the baggage is concerned. And so I I think I'd be excited. I feel really, horny right now for someone's confidence and for their talent and, like, their drive. And that's almost, like, exceeding more of the surface of what I used to look for, maybe in a type. Would that be kind of pansexual? I was just gonna say I feel pan. Okay. But then what's also tricky is then this entered my vernacular through miss Chappell Rohn. She says, you know, she talks about how oh, like, I I have a hard time being, like, sexual with someone if I don't know them super well, and there's, like, a super great connection. And I believe that's I'd say the same. Yeah. I was gonna say Cody does not struggle with that principle at all. Oh, okay. Okay. I so I think he's called demi morsexual. Oh, oh, but his is dibiborsexual. Mine or yours? Mine is. No. Yours. And what what is this? Demisexual. Demisexual. Oh, you just added the more for, like, s**ts and giggles. I mean, she's she's doing the circuit right now. Oh. Yeah. She is. God. She's So She is. She's looking great. Gosh. It's been hot her whole life. It's kind of annoying. Campaigning hard, honey. 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So there's a record of this. Oh. During beer gate, do you recall I texted you? I was Andrew Chappelle. Yes. Okay. So I was Martin. I was watching a news program. I don't wanna give any of these people any other time. I was watching a news program, and Dylan was being discussed on said news program. And I texted Dylan, and I was like I forget what exactly what I said, but I was just like, oh my god. I I'm watching you on this news program. You're so fierce. You're you've made it. I was like, you have you have made it. You have made these people mad or I said something. And Dylan responded, I think, like, thank you, but there there was something, like, you were, like, it's not that great or it's really hard. Know how to was really interesting because, like, I you know, in the book, I talk about how absolutely depressed and horrible that time was. And so anyone that was, like, me like, obviously, there's a lot of pity, but then your message that was, like, this is great. Like, how fierce. I was like, f**k you. Because I I I was so not ready to hear that. And, like, I there was no part of me that, like, could see the good in anything that I was like, Andrew Shapiro. Like, I it it was so funny. But it's actually funny enough, you're you and my celebrity life coach, Morrie, I called right when it happened, I I remember I called her. I'm like, this is happening. And and she goes, honey, you just got a lot more famous. Buckle up. Like, it was a good thing. And I was like and so it was you and Mori. And, like, I'm not mad that you texted me that now at all, but in the time was hard to digest. So this so this is why I'm bringing this up because because I have wanted to say this to you because when I saw you after so I we had the text exchange, and I was just like, oh, I I think also I can take some accountability here because I didn't know how bad it was for you. I just saw, oh, they're going on and on about her. Like, this is really fierce for her because it just is gonna make her really big. Everyone's gonna know who she is. I didn't realize all of the negative aspect of it. And so when I saw you, I don't recall when exactly, but it was at a birthday party at someone's house. Yes. In LA. And we talked about it briefly, and I felt I felt it was a little chilly from you. And, it was you, me, and Johnny were talking civilly. Yep. And he said oh, you were saying, oh, I might need, like, some security or something. I said, oh, well, if you need a big boy to come over, I can come over. And, Johnny was, like, a little bit more sincere. He was like, hey. Like, I know things have been been tough. And that's when in the moment I realized, I was like, oh, things have been are much worse than I thought. Something bad. Yep. And I went most I went to text you later that night, and I think your number had changed, which which I which is understand which is understandable given all the things. So I was like, I never was actually able to circle back to Dylan to be like, I'm sorry that I didn't read the room a little bit. Well, just didn't it wasn't so much read the room. It was just, like, I didn't really know everything she was going through, at which which I was able to learn from in in paper doll when I read it. Actually, I kind of like, now looking at that, like, I don't think I was ready it's one of those things you don't think you're ready to hear, but then you appreciate it after the fact. And that's where we're at with that text message because I I now am, you know, still trying to find the light at the end of the tunnel of that situation. But I think, like, both like, that response and, like, oh, I was talking to Owen Thiel the other day, and he was like, oh, yeah. I didn't I he's like, I probably should've reached out or something during that. I was like, no. I love that you didn't because it was like, I I love that, Andrew, you know me so much outside of that situation that it brings me joy that that's not what you associate me with. Well and, also also and this is this is why this is our topic, which we we can talk about a little bit. We've been we've been gapping. What? But you you are such a resilient person. Yes. So to me, when I saw that on that unnamed news program about that unnamed beer company, I knew you would be okay because I know you to be so resilient. Thank you. So so in my head, there was never a I was never worried about you because I was just like, oh, Dylan wouldn't be worried. The kid that came in in the Comme des Garcons shirt certainly wouldn't be be worried. Oh, that kid woulda ate it up. Well, okay. I am gonna kind of make this about me for just naked about you. I have a point. I have a point. I have a point. Because I I sort of dealt with a similar thing, but on a very smaller scale. So I'm I'm gonna get to my point. So, like, not two Labor days ago, some some mom influencer clipped out something from my class and then went on the Internet, and it was making it on a corner of the Internet where they were also calling me a groomer and saying I was trying to get their kids and, like, this was unacceptable and trying to get me fired and all this sort of stuff. And that heat, even though it was very isolated, I was getting notified about it so frequently over that weekend that I was, like, not even able to enjoy the weekend. I think the heat lasted maybe a week for me, so I don't I I only understand it on a small scale. But you start to question in a way, like, wait. What I was doing or saying was from a place of being proud of who I am, wanting to make a positive impact on people, and then it's getting construed to be taken a different way. And so I'm sure that also messed with your head because you're thinking, here I am just trying to live my life being a good person and maybe being a positive influence on some trans kid that that's trying to figure themselves out, and then you have people putting you through the mud. You know? Like, you're being gaslit by, like, millions of people in, like, media companies, and you're like, what? But I also which I think this brings us back to the musical theater of it all. I think a lot of people aren't used to seeing, like, a musical theater girl, you know, giving that energy on such a large scale or in an advertisement or because that's a very specific kind of crazy. Yeah. Like, in a really fun, positive way. Lee and Michelle? Yes. Is that what you're gonna say? Oh, no. No. No. I was just saying, like, you know, if if theater girls and theater kids are notorious for having a specific energy that is not for everybody. And when you don't have that energy in your vocabulary already and you're being, like, seeing this, you know, hyper feminine, you know, very over the top camp trans person on your screen, I think there's a especially if that's the first time you're like, woah. You know, where like, how did this happen? And so I think that it was really the girls who got it got it, and the ones that didn't didn't. And it's still that way. But I think I at least know now that, like, that that was not my fault. I, unfortunately, became a poster child in a moment when extremists really needed one and and craved that. They still do. And I think, like, going forward, I'm like, okay. I I'm not gonna change my personality. I'm not gonna shift things about myself to be more palatable anymore because no level of of, whatever I do is is going to be enough for those people. And and I think, like, I'm so much happier. It's in a way, that whole situation because I was kind of this, like, I was doing every ad under the sun. I, you know, I wasn't cursing online. I was I was trying to be so put together to be liked that in a way that was, like, the bursting of a bubble that then gave me permission to, like, not have to to be anything but exactly this. Amen. Amen. Self acceptance. You know? Do you Which is which is, I don't wanna say crazy, but interesting because you're going through that journey in your own self, but then having to battle it in your public persona. And then it took this challenging moment to understand that you can also be yourself in your public persona. Yes. Yes. And that's scare I mean, that's scary. That's scary. There I think there are people that miss the days of girlhood series. There's people that are really only interested in, learning about my transition, and they don't wanna hear me sing or they don't wanna hear me, you know, crack raunchy jokes or, you know, some people might not love this book because it's it's a little different. It's a little more adult, And that's okay. Like, I think you find the the right people. And it's not always the most people, but it's the the right ones. Well, you know what really struck me throughout the read was you you've you're ever evolving. Like, we all are. Right? The difference between you and someone on the public eye is they can evolve in private. You know? And, you know, it's incredible to really read about your life in this book. Right? Because you're letting us in on the child version of Dylan and and the dreams that that Dylan had, but then you're also living as as the Dylan now who has honestly achieved some dreams that baby Dylan never even thought could ever exist. And on trying to also honor that younger part of yourself. Well, that's what I think when you get handed everything and you and then you go to like, that was why Edinburgh for me was the the first moment of joy I had felt in a really long time because I was like, oh, that's actually what I wanted this entire time. And I I kind of walked away from it because I saw all these other shiny pennies, but I didn't realize that was the one that I was supposed to pick up. And and I do think, like like, this year, I don't have a vision board yet. It's 2025. Crazy year. I'm like, I can't I don't wanna for try to forecast anything in the s**t storm that this year is. But every every question I have or every offer I get, I'm like, does this help me become a Broadway diva? And Oh. And I think you know what? Kristen Chenow with Patti LuPone, they've got they've got memoirs. They've got they've got quotes. So I yeah. I don't know. You guys have boards this year? You're going back you're going back to your roots. You're going back to had to and because my hair was so dead, babe. These are big things. Can you tell? It looks great. Thank you. Great. The the question is, do we have vision boards? That's not it's that's I I get I feel like I get asked this a lot. It it's a no for me. I'm just I'm not someone who can plan out. I'm I'm not someone that, like, ties myself to the plan that I'm seeing. And I know the vision board is a little bit more less linear than that, but it it just doesn't work for me. I kind of try to sit in my truth, sit in my strengths, know what I try to discover what I want internally and let those things come to me in a very active and, involved way, if that makes sense. I I definitely had vision vision board when I was in my twenties, and I moved to New York. And there were there were so many, like, truly, there were so many options, and the world was my oyster. And I was like, I don't know what direction. I I just think I wanna be in every Broadway show ever made. You know? So it's like the that that vision board was a little easier for me to put together. Now I feel like I just don't have a vision board because, aesthetically, I don't wanna look at it in my apartment. I like I like to just have, like, clean lines and everything be bare. Oh, you're so different. I've got s**t everywhere. And, like, I like have it I love note cards all over the wall. Like, I I my attention span is like that. And if I don't have, like, a word in front of me or if you know, I'll tell people. I'm like, text me eight times because if I if I don't if I see it and I don't respond in that second, we're gonna need another follow-up. Oh my gosh. Wait. Tell our listeners about your, your famous wall of influential women in your house. She's over here. She's right over there. And we've got the the girls from Sex and the City. I feel like I'm a Charlotte. Necessary? You're you are definitely a Charlotte. You are definitely a Charlotte. Were you? I am a Miranda in the streets and a Samantha in the sheets. You're a Miranda in the street. I'm Miranda. You're a Carrie Samantha. I'm not a Carrie Samantha. Do not. I actually am just showing you, like, the level I know you. I act I'm I sign off. Thank you. Okay. But but, Dylan, you're not just a Charlotte. No. There is Samantha there. Samantha's there. Samantha is there, honey. I oh, I'm I talk like a truck driver. I love talking about sex. It's, like, so fun. Like, well, that's I think that's when I think about all the people I've met, like, in the industry and and I because I I usually when I meet someone that I'm a fan of, I don't even say that. I'll just be like, oh my god. You'll never believe who I just you know, like, I'll tell them I'll overshare about something sexual, and they're like, holy s**t. Who's this who's this girl? And and I think it's such a connector. And it also is telling if you say something kind of sexy and they're like, why why would you tell me that? It's probably not someone that I wanna be close with because Yeah. I mean, I've I've I've built a brand on being hypersexual and giving, housewives across this great country permission to do so as well. Mhmm. Or, Andrew, what's your Sex and the City character? I think, honestly, it's like Carrie a Charlotte. Charlotte Carrie. Could you I'm a why are you Miranda? And why are you Charlotte? I'm I'm Miranda. Cause I'm like brash. I keep it real. I tell people like how it is and like people come to me for advice. I'm Charlotte. Cause I'm like very type a in particular and punctual. Okay. No? No. I'm not saying that you don't possess those qualities, but you're just not as buttoned up as a Charlotte might be. So who do you think I am in the streets? Oh. I think there's some Carrie slander going on, and I think you're I agree with that part. I don't think she's so bad. I think we all need to revisit this story. Carrie? Carrie? Yes. I think that was very in to, like To hate on Carrie. Watch when it came back on, everyone was obsessing again. Everything she's getting so much hate, and I was one of those people. And then zooming out, I'm like, we have Carrie in us. Well, Carrie, we all have a little bit of Carrie in us, but that's, like It's like the same. Wants to be Carrie. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's like when she shows up at Bigg's House with the, like, with the beret. I'm like, girl. So by the way, Dylan, as you probably noticed, we also have very short attention spans. Because you do also have one one picture, and we're already off. We've got Oprah, Frida Kahlo, Marsha Johnson, miss Piggy, Dolly Parton, Marilyn Monroe, the cast of The Golden Girls, Princess Diana, Michelle Obama, Joni Mitchell, and then Audrey Hepburn has her own wall. Oh, of course. I mean, Audrey Hepburn lives in you. If she does, she is she's a a a little she's she's tired of my antics. I can probably Wait, Dylan. Do you know what you have to watch? Growing up in my home, my mom had a series that Audrey Hepburn did on Gardens. Have you seen this? No. Audrey Hepburn, it's like a three VHS set, and she takes you through a garden and talks about the types of flowers. When did I ask when did Audrey Hepburn pass? Nineteen ninety three. Oh. Ninety three. There it is. Because I well, I just don't have a very I don't have a strong connection. And, of course, I know her. I just don't have a strong connection to her. Like, the that's what I think I'm frustrated by is, like, I wish that I could just be so lovely and, like, pleasant and poised. And and, you know, she did she spoke out in in ways that were so classy, whereas I'm just like, f**k s**t. Like, I think that that is maybe with age will a little bit of grace come? Absolutely. You know, there's another person on your wall that I have a theory. This is the most famous entity right now. Most famous entity right now? Well, and and since and since their inception. And that that person is miss Piggy. Oh. I think that miss Piggy is one of the biggest celebrities That's fair. Ever out ever. Like, bigger than Cher, bigger than Madonna, like miss Piggy. Generation because it expands generationally. I mean Kids and adults because she's a fun kind of, like, puppet character, but also is, like, naughty and a little bit sexualized and funny and cra*s. She's nice. She's she's dating outside of her species. Okay. That's you know what I mean? Revolutionary self. Yeah. I actually was asked yesterday who my favorite woman was, and I said, miss Piggy, because I mean, you know what? A lot of people might not see her as a biological woman. And Sure. And I I think if there was somebody that I wanted to link up with and really, you know, stick it to them, it's her. So so listeners, next time someone asks you to just simply name a woman woman. Miss Piggy Yeah. Little count. Yes. Exactly. Because I could see miss Piggy throwing on a chic outfit and meeting you for tea at sketch. Easy. And, like but and then I think what I'd be confused about is there wasn't like, I didn't see anyone operating a puppet. It was just, like, it was just happening, and and maybe I didn't even question it. Yeah. I know. Well, you guys had a lot of very important things to discuss. It said tea. How we're gonna fix the world. Very important thing. Okay. Well, Ran, would you mind taking us to our listener question? Get it together. Dear Cody, Andrew, and Dylan, I'm a senior in college, and I'm TikTok obsessed. Graduation is approaching, so I started to really up my TikTok game. After a few months, I started gaining a following and was really excited. Over winter break, I was with my friends on a ski trip, and I found a secret group chat that I wasn't in that was entirely filled with my friends sending my TikToks back and forth and laughing at me. I am at such a loss. Since finding it, I haven't made a video since, which makes me so sad. Do I confront them? Do I say nothing? Should I give up on my TikTok dreams? How do I drown out the haters and keep going? Signed, Nikki. Those ain't your friends. Well I love Nicki. The senate the cynicism in me says maybe her TikToks aren't good. Am I a Nicki fan? Yeah. Pull up at the Sri Lanka. What? That's an that's the the bad I can't I mean, my take is, like, listen. You just gotta go for it, babe. Because, like, some not everyone's gonna like what you're doing, and some you're you'll find your audience, and they'll like what you're doing. Like, my the best advice I I forget. I watched it on TikTok, but someone says your your favorite person had to be cringe to get where they were. And and, like, I I think god for like, I was so earnest and so, like, one tracked minded that, like, if for one second I had, like, looked at my early videos and been like, I wonder if this is a little cringy. Like, I would have absolutely stopped, but there some sort of rose colored glasses on Emerald City activated because I, like, I I just didn't care. I didn't think what anyone else, you know, was like, when I was making those videos, like, it it it brought me so much joy. It sounds like she really enjoys making content. So, like, hell yeah. Like, that that's great. And I think the one thing it is so crazy to think, like, now young people are like, oh, this could be my profession or, you know, making content could, you know, be the the thing. And I always, like, want to say, like, make sure there's something else too that can supplement you know, can be a part of the content, and you can and but, god forbid parent when their child wants to go get a musical theater degree. Correct. Well, but even that, it's like, get the musical theater degree and then use it to make videos. Like, I think, like, it's because you do have to have discernible talents to get a musical theater degree. I like, I think what you're saying is don't just be like, I wanna do, like, come with me today while I get a cup of coffee at the store. It's like, yeah. It that's great. But, like, also, can you do something else? Only working for point 01% of the population, and that's typically very hot people. I know. And even I fatigue hot. She's hot. Yeah. She's hot. Nikki is hot. And I think that, like, I I I wanna I'm supporting Nikki, and I I want her to do every content dream that she's ever thought of. Amen. Absolutely. My my issue, I, of course, I wanna make it kind of my my issue is with the friend. I I wish I knew more in more information about how she found the, group thread, but that's, I guess, irrelevant. I feel like her friends need to be giving her constructive criticism on her videos if they really care. Okay. That's fair. But if they're just offlining about her being her, that doesn't actually feel like they really like her that much. That's not your friend. That is not your friend. Yeah. I say I say abandon ship if you can. And if you can't abandon ship, then you need to I I would address it. I would address it. Because how would we feel how would we feel if some Perhaps we could write them a letter. Oh. And an Easter egg chestnut that has just arrived fresh. Okay. Dylan, oh, wait. Can we do our Mount Rushmore Broadway shows? Oh. Is that a thing that you yes? That's apparently a thing. I mean, yeah. Let's do it. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait Top four Broadway shows ever. Okay. Color Purple, Cynthia Revo. You're freaking funny. Legally Blonde. Oh. Yoruba Bundy. Oh, you're going an actress. I don't know if I'll do be able to do the actors. Next to normal. And it's really tricky because, obviously, Alice Ripley was amazing, but I did just see Casey Levy in London Two times. That was everything, next to normal. She's a force. And okay. Let's think about this. Next to normal. This is really tricky. Can I do plays also, or it has to be a musical? Yes. Yes. We all open plays up to you. Thank you. That's very sweet. Somebody should because it's not gonna be me. I'm gonna say it's so hard because, obviously, part of me just wants to say Wicked because I was I've seen it, like, 13 times. Part of me wants to throw, like, a Sondheim in there and give, like, an Into the Woods or Okay. Even like a like a Sweeney. But I am going to last final answer, Bear, a pop opera. Oh, Bear, which you did Bear. Right? I feel like I read that. Did the San Diego premiere of Bear. It is not a perfect show. No. But holy s**t. That, like, I mean, it was it I lived. I slept. I ate. I breathed that show. Yeah. I mean, it's got a it's got a cult following for sure. My yours. Mine you you wanna do yours first? Sure. Okay. You don't have to say the actors. No. Just Secretly okay. Secretly, Hairspray is one of my favorite shows. I just I just it's it's ingrained in me. This one is gonna be this one is gonna come out of left field, but it's one of my favorite theater experiences that I ever went to go see, which was light in the Piazza, which was gorgeous. I'm so I know. I know you're gagged. I know you're gagged. I know you're gagged. I you're gagged. I know you're gagged. I also really, like, cried so much during the inheritance. That was the play I wanted to go see. So that was a really good one. Oh, my fourth one, oof. I mean, there was nothing like coming to New York City in 02/2006 and seeing Rent, even though it was, like, already on the on the out on the out. And, like, it's a little dated, but what a what a great show. An iconic show. I like your list. Thank you so much. I'm actually very proud of your Light in the Piazza. I know. Beautiful music in that one. Okay. So mine is I don't think gonna be that that surprising. Dream girls is, in my opinion, you've seen it? Yes. I've never seen it. I've never seen a production of it. Dylan, I saw a production in at the West End. It was one of the best productions I've ever seen. Yes. Amber Riley. I saw that too. So Dreamgirls is, to me, one of the best musicals that exist, period. Color Purple original cast. Okay. Insane. Number three, company. Gotta get that song time in there. And I love I love a musical about someone who's single and just, like, trying to figure it out because I feel like that's been me for so much of my life. And then number four, I think this is one of the greatest musicals ever written, and there's no way I would have been able to do it for five plus years. Hamilton. I would hope he says Hamilton. I never I never tired of it. Not once. So good. I mean, there's just so there's so much to chew on. I saw you in it. You did? As did I, and I had to stand in the back. I did too. I stood oh, I stood once, and then my parents did spring for the that was you know what, Andrew? You were, like, first famous friend, and me getting those like, I think that my parents exponentially loved me more when you were able to get us house seats to Hamilton. Like, that changed the fabric of of what was, my my life with my family. So Dylan and her parents got to sit down. That's what I'm saying. Oh my god. Oh my god. I when I saw you Hamilton hearing. Okay. You know what? Let who else do we unpack this? We had to get I it was the night after, our our senior showcase. Okay. And do you remember going out with my mom? Yeah. And she kept grabbing your arm and going, are you working out? You must be working out. She was, like, fully, like, in love with you. Yes. And I was in the book. We were doing fireball shots Yes. Yes. For it. All night. And I had such I mean, that was the best day of my I didn't I didn't think I was gonna get, like, one agent. Like, I couldn't and and I had this great day, and I was like, hell yeah, baby. And so we went so hard. I brought my my mom got kicked out of a gay club. Like, it was one of the ones right in Hell's Kitchen because she tried to go up on stage with the drag queen, and it was that was very out of her her pocket. But then I was so hungover the next day. I was walking down the street, and you know our dear friend Alec Cohen as well, who Yes. I was I threw up into one of those poll kind of the in in New York City for those who aren't versed. There this the trash cans, you have to pull them like mailboxes. Yes. I threw up into the mailbox on my way to Pearl Studios because we had, like, a master class the next day for, like, eight hours. Oh, yes. As you do. Villain. It was our our friend Alec Cohen had spotted me at the Starbucks. This is actually this is an exclusive for the pod. I've never told this story before. Then I I went to the master class, couldn't make it through. I I left all of my belongings in in Pearl's studio. I just walked home. And then my mom we we had my mom was so pissed. We had these Hamilton tickets that Andrew had helped us secure, and and she just kept she was like, f**k it. You aren't even gonna enjoy Hamilton. Like, you know, she was going through it too, but, like, I would I was on death's door, so we got one of those IVs. I'm a big believer in those those IVs. IVs will get you together. They they truly will. I it's it's I showed up, and I was greatest city in the world. I loved it. I I had the best night. My parents loved it. I I got it together for you. Making dreams come true. What can I say? God. You had a seat. Oh, I I changed. No. This is what I wanna say. Cody will never experience. No. But here's the thing. Cody keeps bringing this s**t up, but I want you to think back. You weren't Chuck Holla, big bala, make you holla back then. Honey, you were trying to spring for the house. So he wasn't. You didn't wanna pay the dollars. Yeah. He keeps on Maybe my maybe my friend that was making a a big Broadway check at the time could have sprung for me, but You were gonna pay for the seats? Yeah. We gotta pay for the seats. Have to pay for it. Yeah. I don't know how much time we're I think that's the misconception about Broadway is they think that, like, actors get free tickets. False. Correct. Yeah. We we do not get well, at least not in successful shows. Slight change to, my Mount Rushmore. I instead of Bear, I'm putting in Why Am I So Single. That's the musical? It we just played the West End. Oh, plug in. The writers of six, Lucy and Toby Okay. That are my dear friends. It is it's like I've never watched a show that felt more like my for you page of, like, a TikTok because because it was so written for me. It was all about how, you know, gender identity, but also not knowing how to, like, be feminine and, like, get someone to be attracted to you, and you feel so alone. And then, like, your relationship with your girl best friend ends up being, like, your true love. And it's just so Aw. So good. That that was beautiful. Yeah. Friendships are so important, especially friendships with girlfriends. Let's take it out with the scam of the week, Dylan. Do you have any strong thoughts? I this one threw me when I because I did my homework, and I sat on the shower floor thinking, what is my scam? And most scam like, any scam that I participate in, I'm usually a fan of. There isn't like, I'm I'm I'm not I'm gonna bring one to the table that could go either way. You know? I'm gonna say being bicoastal is a scam. And are you currently bicoastal? In some ways. Mhmm. Yes. I would You know what? I'm even gonna say try Coastal because I spend a lot of time in London. Okay. And Interesting. And I'm getting a place there. Oh. And Beautiful. I I think that I love having one more place that people don't know where I am. And so when they if if somebody's trying to get ahold of me, you don't know where. And do you have a home in New York? I often at Celebipon? Benj Pasek. I occupy that guest room like it is my own k. On and I I I spend a lot of time there. And also the Plaza Hotel as as I read in the book. Oh my god. I live at the Plaza. I lived there during day three 60 five for, like, a month, and it was the best month of my life. We should call you Eloise. Girl. Because that bathroom. In in in the recovery stage of your life? That was in my recovery? Yeah. Wait. What do you mean? After your, f f f f oh. F f s f f that was you know what? You were just giving Rihanna. That was, like, all non binary identity. People, genders. Oh, that was you got you that was a recovery? And then you I saw the thread and go, and, you know what? I was, well, in some ways, not fully healed. But I I was there during the the best part of my life, which was that doing my show at the Rainbow Room. I did, oh my god, the box. I did a night at the box. I write about Small world. Small world. I used to work there. No. Yeah. But not as a performer. Just as making sure people didn't take pictures. Security. Secur like, not security either because I wasn't big enough. Scary. He was I was apparently a person swinging. Of. What are you what's y'all take some take take on Bicoastal? I I I think that, when I was on Raya, that was actually the biggest red flag to me when people were like, yeah. Bicoastal. And I was like, for what? For what? You can wear your fedora and drink your cappuccino in LA, which is I know where you are posting this from. I re I I have a theory about bicoastal, which is just I think it's only for really elite. That's what I was gonna say. It's for it's for rich, rich, rich, rich people. If you don't have, like if you're not paying rent or a mortgage in these cities, then I don't believe that you are truly bi or tricoastal. Mhmm. Yeah. And that's one more one mortgage or rent is That's a good that's it. So the Centimeters is saying you're bicoastal but not having Property. Actual property. Or, like, a a a place that is your own to stay at. You just like traveling places. Because And that's not letting your apartment, I wouldn't say that's bicoastal. That's you're staying with a friend while you do some work. Correct. And that's fair. Listen. I I love someone who travels. That's that is that is a lovely has time. I also travel for work. Yeah. But bicoastal bicoastal to me also means that you're visiting these two places often enough to, like, have full lives in those places. Groups in both of these places. You yeah. Yeah. So that that's my that's my thing. I I don't like what you can do to represent it. Yes. When you lived in LA, did you still try to keep some feet on the ground in New York at all, or were you like Oh, yeah. I I did. And and, honestly, I would stay literally right where we're sitting. I would I would I would this was this was my apartment in New York is I would come and stay with Cody. And to be honest, my first year and a half in L in LA, I spent a lot of time coming to New York because I miss my New York friends. So I made it a point to come for pride and come for pride. There because of COVID Correct. A good chunk. Correct. I think, yeah, I'm I'm I do have roots in both places, but I do not claim being bicoastal. And I've actually had to, like, correct a lot of people recently here in New York. By the way, I've been living in New York for a year and a half. And people are like, are you here full time? And I'm like, yeah. Do you think I was commuting to do a Broadway show? Like, yeah. I'm so next days asked me, oh, do you live in LA? I was like, no. I've never lived in LA. I might go out to LA once every three months to do a job, and that's it. I like, one of my like, I love getting invited to things in different cities. Yeah. But then what's stressful is then, like, when somebody doesn't think you're somewhere and they're like, oh, we we wouldn't have thought to and you're like, no. Yeah. I'm here. Yeah. Invite me. Let me tell you I can't come. Don't assume I can't come. Giggity. Giggity. But I do try like like, I'm going to LA, I don't even know when, in a few weeks. And I do make it a point to always reach out to a number of people that I know is doable to see so that I can cultivate. It's also so funny. Like, I feel like when New Yorkers come to LA, I'm so much more likely to see them here that like like, it's it's funny when you're in a different city and you're visited. Like, you you make such an effort Yeah. To, like like, do it up. And then when you're at home base, it doesn't feel like that. So I love I exist in my house. I'd lay in my bed. I don't leave this spot. And for for very few things do I hop out of bed to to go to. Well, I will reach out to you when I when I come out there, and we'll have some some tea, and, we can share a cigarette if if you're still smoking. I I may have indulged recent and but we're working through it. Yeah. I so my my current boyfriend, he has been very instrumental in getting me to quit the vapes. Oh, I never went down that path. Yeah. I haven't I haven't skipped in since. God. That actually might be my scam. I think vapes or scams We have a scam in there. I'm sorry. If they have the same like, if there's the same sort of repercussions as a cigarette, you aren't even getting the the It's coming. It's coming. They're gonna my theory is that vapes and then, flavored flavored seltzers are going to give the next generation Oh, no. All the shings. I I I think not the seltzers. I think that it's like, you know, back in the fifties, like, yeah, smoke a cigarette to be healthy. I think flavored seltzers, one day they're gonna be like, actually, guys, there's something in this and it's not good. Oh, no. Like, I am. How is it? Larry Me and Sam. How? The flavor is here. I know. This is what I'm saying. It's a scam. Oh, my God. We have so many scams. I drink them all the time. Anyways. Well, Dylan, we're so excited for your book. Thank you for being a wonderful guest on the on the podcast. Podcast. Paper doll, baby. Paper doll. Get it. March 11, publication day. Go preorder it. Go buy it. All of the above. Love you, Dylan. And that this was so fun. What a good day. What a wonderful day. Wonderful day. I will reach out to you when I'm out there. Hope you can see you. Love y'all.