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PodcastOne presents the Steve Austin show classics. I got my truck driver extraordinaire, Brandon Benson, sitting shotgun with me. His driver won a grave digger monster trucks right here in Palm Desert, California for the annual or biannual Kawasaki Dealers Convention. Just introduced the Kawasaki Terex CR X 1000. It was absolutely awesome, and I came out here to check the vehicle out because I'm a brand ambassador for Kawasaki Motorsports and I see this big a*s monster truck over there and I'm like, Man, what do you do that monster truck? I had it all wrapped up in everything. And so seeing the driver, I introduce myself to him. Help, Brandon. We're sitting here in the damn Yukon in a parking lot. I have a from many damn places, from my camper and all kinds of different things. We've been driving around here about 15 minutes trying to find a place with a little bit of silence, a little bit of sound control. So I'm sure you probably rolled your eyes a few times, but you got some stories to tell. Just because of all the shenanigans. We can't get away from the noise. That's it, man. I'm gonna have a couple of stories to tell about a Volbeat on this podcast here and just trying to find a place to park. Be quiet, and I don't think anybody's going to believe me. Nobody believes it's podcast anyway. Hey, man, I go way back with Monster Trucks, and when I saw that thing out in the parking lot, I, I got to go talk to this guy, find out what the motor is and all the suspension way back in a day. You know, at about ninety eight and 99, when I had a neck injury, got my neck fused up seat three and four, so I was on a shelf. So what I was doing, I was because I was sidelined. I'd make the rounds, doubters out. Texas Monster Trucks up a real big native South Texas over in East Texas, and I'd go and I drive the truck not competitively like you do, but I just kind of make an appearance. I'll sign autographs and stuff like that. But I've always had a love for everything as four-wheel drive with a big a*s motor, lots of horsepower stuff like that. So anyway, we had Austin 3:16 truck. Yep, I remember way back and you remember the episode when I crushed the rocks like a continental. I remember it. I was a kid then, but I've always been a fan of you. I've always watched wrestling and I grew up watching. I grew up watching you and I remember watching an episode on TV, and I thought that was pretty cool. How we met out here in the desert. I had this monster truck out here for Kawasaki on display and then, you know, they said, you were going to be here. So it's it's been pretty surreal and it's been pretty cool. And I can say that unless I say it's awesome and I'm not a big a jerk as people make me out to maybe put me over here, kid. Hey, but so anyway, let's go back to that night because they showed up and Calvin Carrington was original owner of that truck. And, you know, a few years down the road, he would end up being killed at a monster truck event and a freak accident. Super nice guy. So anyway, we drive, we get that pickup truck and you know, I'm going to drive this thing on the spot and we're like, Dave brother. Yeah. And so all of a sudden, you know, because you drive one back in there a little bit caveman ish they don't handle like I do today. And this thing was between 15 and 18 hundred horsepower. And I say, Man, you're going to crush the rocks, go on TV tonight, and I, who's going to show me how to drive this thing, that's up. So anyway, we cross that damn car, and a lot of people think, Oh, yeah, you know, in the show, I just did straight up Steve Austin in a tank. We crushed some cars that were just salvage cars. Okay? This was a brand new Lincoln Continental off the showroom floor, and that's how much Vince was committed to saying. Yeah. And so I cross you. Total it right? It looked brand new. It was, and I was a total shoot. So when you was watching way back in the day and you're a kid like wrestling, did you ever think, Hey, that's what I want to do, turn into a monster truck driver? No, back then, you know, you know, you can always dream, but that that wasn't one of my dreams. You know that early 90s I was I was wanting to be a wrestler. I was watching it. I was doing that stuff. So, you know, we had a trampoline growing up as kids and I would wrestle every day. Didn't matter what it was. We had a little wrestling buddies. We would just have a ball doing that. So, you know, 20 years later, here I am doing the monster truck thing and watching you do that on on TV with what the monster trucks and that stuff, it's it's crazy to think like this brought us and brought us out here together to do this. It's been something that I'll never forget. Hey, I want to ask you about how you got into, okay, so so what were your aspirations? You said you might have wanted to be a wrestler, but that's a that's a long shot. And just like mine was I making it? He'll be in a monster truck drivers a long shot. And you weren't thinking about me in that. So what were you thinking about doing with your life? So I had a background of doing heavy equipment like I run excavators. I do boulders. I. Still do to this day, I'll say passion of mine to do that when I'm not on the road doing stuff, I help a buddy of mine out. And I was just before I flew in here the day before I was clearing A. land and spread and saying out there getting ready to put some houses in the ground. So that's what I was doing before I came out here. So that's a passion of mine. I still love to do that, but it's fun working on equipment like that. And yeah, we do a lot of shredding and stuff like that. And I he's a little bit a little bit of bug at work. I drive a forklift for a living before I got busy pro wrestling out there, so I never got a chance to operate a lot of stuff that you did, but managed a lot of that stuff, especially if you're looking to, you know, maintain or upgrade something. Yeah, I'm looking at, you know, just looking at something, looking at grain or looking at what level or what ain't. Yeah, you got a pretty good eye for that. Yeah, you got to be, you know, you've got to have an eye for nowadays. They got GPS and all this stuff. But if you're a real operator, you can put it on grade, you know, to a point, you know, you can rough it in and make it look pretty good. So I've always had a little knack for that and that goes hand in hand with the monster, with the monster truck, too. It's almost the same thing. You know, you're doing four things at one time, you're pulling joysticks. Well, we're turning the steering wheel, hitting rear steer, gas and brake, and it's just something that I've always had a niche for. And you know, it's comes natural to me with a excavating and with emotion with the monster jam. You know, when a lot of people, when they think a monster truck, they think of Bigfoot or they immediately think of grave digger and those are two institutions. And so now I think you and I were talking yesterday, I believe the Grave Digger franchise, I guess you would. You'd call it dodgy. Aren't you guys running like 54 trucks worldwide? Yeah, worldwide, 54 trucks. The felt family owns these trucks and, you know, it's called Monster Jam. So it's grown so much. And we actually run seven grave digger trucks at one time on tour will go on tour from January to May, and there are seven tours every weekend going on. So there will be there would be a grave digger truck at every show headlining. You know, it's just grown so much. We're we're going overseas. They were just in Australia this weekend getting ready to go to Japan, Saudi Arabia. It's just way back in the day. They asked me if I wanted to go to Aruba and I said, You're going to ship the trucks over there and Liberty Island. Yeah, probably been. I decided not to go just because I was too far, but I know things are worldwide and with a franchise like Grave Digger. And if they've got all those trucks and running seven simultaneously, it's got like back when our business was on fire. We had a B and a C crew. I mean, we were setting, you know, bigger towns, medium towns and smaller towns with respect to how you guys run, where's headquarters? So the headquarters now is in Palmetto Florida, right outside of Tampa. We also have a shop where I'm based out of. It's in North Carolina. That's like the O.G. Grave Digger Shop didn't say anything, and that's his property. We have that grave digger shop there and, you know, he created Grave Digger 38 years ago. It's a legacy everybody knows. You see that green chassis, you see the paint scheme and then red headlights come on. Business is about having. So that's the only truck in monster jam that is still hand-painted. It's like for over 40 hours a hand paint. It's a 1950 Chevy panel truck. And it's it's just something that everybody loves and everybody knows. You can just say the name and they know what it's. Oh, absolutely, dude. I know it's just so iconic. Just the look, the feel, the vibe. Everything about it kind of reminds me a little bit like The Undertaker in our world and I come from Pro Grave Digger is that, you know, that larger than life that's just iconic, that captures your attention and your imagination, and always because of the premier driving and probably the money that they have to put it into the truck. They they've got the the wallet to keep coming and upping the ante because man trucks have changed a lot from back in the old days when I was driving them. When a personal appearances to what you guys are driving now, here's my question for you. Okay? How did you get to be a part of the Grave Digger franchise and then turn into a driver? Because I think you said you started the bottom and work your way into a driver spot? Tell me how that works. So I the way I got in was I started off wrench in all the trucks. I was a mechanic. I was a crew chief for Ryan Anderson, which is Dennis's middle son. OK, stop right there. Where did you get your mechanical background? Are you just a national and international working on stuff? I did like a shop in school and I go, but we had ag mechanics. I just gravitate towards. Yeah, yeah, I never went to. I never got to go to college. No, I went to work. No, that was in high school when I came back. Yeah, so yeah, so I went, you know, so but you're a natural wrench. And yeah, like I was wrenches on cars, trucks. I got lifted trucks and I got all squared bodies. Still, we still play on the beach. I mean, I got a 1990 squared body. Right now I'm 40 inch tires on teenagers, lives around it all the time, taking my kids to school. They love it. So what's the motor in truck? It's just got to three fifty in it, but I got all one tonne running gear. 456 Detroit lockers in a few, and it's, you know, it makes up for not having a big motor in it, but it's reliable and fired up. I can leave for six months, come home thing or fire it up and go. You got to see me picture that for the podcast. OK, so I don't mean to cut you off. We're back to how you got in to the grave digger stuff. Yes, I was renting a mechanic. We were on the road for five months out of the year. Come home for a couple of weeks, go right back out. So you know the life it's it's it's grueling process. But when you're young, you know, it's fun. You take it for what it is and get to go travel the world and do that stuff. So I did that for nine years and I really wanted to drive. I had an opportunity to drive. We used to test in North Carolina new drivers and do some things there before they moved it to parks in Illinois, but they kind of snuck me in without anybody knowing. So that's how I really first got into a seat. They said, All right, we're going to take a couple of crew chiefs. We're going to let you guys drive. You know, everybody is itching to just see if anybody can do it. You know, the guys were like because we were working their fingers to the bone 80 90 hours a week. And like, you just start getting over so you get a little burst, a fifteen hundred horsepower, you know, it brings a whole new light. Everything you're ready to get back to work. You're good, you know, you're ready to go again. So they snuck me in and then I had Adam Anderson, which I grew up with. We're really good friends. That's Dennis's oldest son said, Look, man, you come out here. I said, whether I saw it or whether I'm good, I said, I just want to hear it from you. You know what I mean? We've been friends a long time, so he's like, Cool, help me get in the truck. I stepped in first time. He's on radio and I take off, and then from there I kind of like, blew everybody away. I was. They were telling me that I was better than the people they had out there training. So instantly I was like, Cool, you know, I didn't. I didn't brag about it and nothing, you know, I was kind of I was just kind of trying to take it all in that I really had, you know, a niche for it and did a good job in front of all of my peers. You know, everybody is working there. So that's how I got started in it. And then I pulled teeth, knocked on doors and everything. I could try to get a tough spot in a legitimate one. It just seemed like it wasn't happening. It wasn't happening. I was just kind of in a little depressed about it, you know, really wanting to do this job. But it's drive was there and it was there like I had that part of it. They didn't think that I had everything else because a lot of it we knew 80 percent PR, 20 percent drop. So it's all that. So I wasn't really that good on a microphone was really I was good in the truck. So you kind of got to have the best of both worlds. So I started working on that. And just every time I see somebody ask, Hey, let me get a tough spotlight, let me test, come on, I can do it. I said, Just believe in me. It takes one person to believe in you. And finally, it happened. Four years later. So I've been out on the road now, three, this will be my third season on the road. And I was hungry. I went out. I wanted to prove everybody wrong with doubting me. Tell me I couldn't do it. Yes, sir. You wanted to. And I did. I went out and I won a series championship last year. Central Championship. I want it by over 100 points. We do a point system on tour. I went to the world finals, which is our biggest show of the year. We did it in Orlando, Florida, for the first time. And I competed in five out of the seven events there. There is only one other person to do that, and me and Tyler Menninga, we were the to be able to do that. So you got to be good to pay your dues, to come up ranks and just yes, but just to get a spot and like almost didn't have it for me. So then what happens when you get the spot? How much training is it? I mean, and what are they doing now? You guys just out on a course or out on a property and you guys are showing you what's up or how to do this? Yeah. Have you heard a comment? He does maximum destruction next. Yeah. OK. So he runs the test facility called Monster Jam University. They didn't have that back then. You know, something kind of new. Five years, maybe. So they bring new drivers in and they've got a stadium course out in the town. The cornfield, like it's in Illinois. And then they got an arena track for what we do. So you go out there and you test, you know, you kind of brush up on stuff, but you're not out there. I went out there two times for three days of peace and then the rest of your, you know, practice stuff. You're doing it a lot and you're all doing it in the show that's on the job training, on the job training in some of these arenas, which, you know, or when we build a track inside eighty five foot wide. Yeah. So you take a twelve thousand pound monster jam truck, 12 foot wide 66 and tires, you know you got to be on your A-game or you're going to tear something up. And they have a saying like, we're not we're not allowed to do building dams. You know, that's a no no for the buildings that we're going to man. When I was used to doing some of those things down in Beaumont and little bitty outdoor stadium at rodeos there and like the the arena was so small, you know, bring in a bunch of dirt, you know, set up. And of course, what nias elaborate is what you guys have to work with. But I mean, the space was so confined. I mean, you had to be, you know, damn good to an expert just to not hit anything, much less perform. Yes. All right. But are y'all when Mother Monster Jam is the Mack daddy. So when you guys are out, is it like big arenas only? Or are you all doing anything small? We do everything. So the smallest would be like an inside dash or hockey game. So it's 85 ward and then it gets bigger from there. It just depends on the building that you're in. We do one hundred and fifty seven arenas. We've had to do 20 to 25 stadiums. I think it is. But yeah, we do way more arenas than we do the major stadium. So and we come back every year. So you got to go in there with the mentality of if you get a good driver inside of a small building, you can put on a show no matter what. Right. So that's the thing. That's the key is really knowing how to drive the truck inside the air you're in to put on the show to make the fans come back. That's Hey, man, you got any trademark things because I mean, like, I used to file it way back in the day. And now I'm you. I'm just, I'm watching. You guys are doing, What's it backwards? Which out? 360 What would you go? Yeah. Well, they're doing backflips to back a lot. The biggest thing going on right now. Monster Jam. The two wheel skills challenge. Yeah, everything on two wheels. Everything. A lot of the stuff on the back, guys. Just skip down or just hop down or just drive down whatever it is and then also don't get up on the front two. Yeah, the front is the big deal now on the front and bicycle in the truck, all now that all come about just because of all the improvements and suspension and stuff like that. Or just, hey man, they figure it out. Maybe there were almost going to end though on something and ended up riding out to say, Hey, this could be a thing. How did that evolve? They they started building these tracks. They call them pods, and it's something new that they designed. There's a there's four hits on each side. Korn hits where you jump in instead of jumping out towards the crowd, and then they had jumps in the middle. So this pod came about. Maybe I want to say five years ago and they did a show. I want to say it was Cleveland, Ohio, around Anderson, son of a digger, went out. Jump in pretty much cradled the truck and it popped it up on the nose. Yeah, well, he was the first one to do it, but he was also the first one to throw it in reverse and drop it backwards on two wheels. And that became that move became the moonwalk. Oh, then it blew up and it was a big deal. So now you got everybody trying to, you know, Vernon transmissions out left and right as your shift. And when you're up like that on the nose, your shift in reverse back first. We got to see paraglide. So you're OK, skipping right by second, a neutral hitting reverse, dragging it back in first just to keep it real hard. They got sort of like a rock on a tranny. It is, yeah. So if you if you do it right, you can make it last. It's all about having a finesse to do it. So but yeah, it is for a lot of people to be up in RPMs three or four thousand and shouldn't. Oh, and it just kills them. Hey, let me add something about like, like back in the day, man, they that have the the cars out there and they'd crush them or they jump on and they use them as everything they would. But you know, they'd have that, that straight line competition. But then this is back in the days and I got to get up to speed. I got your phone number and I'm coming to see you at Monster Jam. When you guys come to Anaheim or wives, call me. Yep, stables, whatever it is. But my question is they used to then have like a freestyle type thing where it was kind of like, Hey, man, you go out there and do your own thing. It's got like crowd response, yes. Or like, how do they determine the winner these days? OK, point system or crowd response? I mean, it's a dead VIDEO Yeah. But like we do in wrestling, sometimes back in the day, it's fan judging now, right? They it's all subjective, right? Yeah. So they got this new system where you actually got an app on your phone when you go in. Yeah, that's two wheel deal that I did just to show you, you know, back and forth, I guess. So I'm Gary. That's that's a five foot tall stuff and a ramp that's cut, so I walked it down. OK, what we're doing, we're watching a video on a random iPhone, he's on Brandon Benson, G.D. Brandon Vince and Julie Brandon mentioned Gdzie Account, Instagram and you just put it on two wheels is backing it backwards and forwards and dancing and playing. Dude, you talk about balance that artwork that is just insane. Paint job. Yeah, it's it's intense. No, it just it is light fiberglass because you'd think it'd be destroyed right now. Yeah, you'll see. See how it will go out there. So yeah, it's a fiberglass wood fiberglass body. Three people can put it on. Take it off. So actually the hood separate, it's a whole piece of the side. It has two sides in the roof and we both on the go in and throw it on. The cage is matched to the body, so it's like, OK, when are you guys going to show? And you guys are probably on a semi 18 wheeler? Yeah, yeah. Triple our triple drop Kentucky trailers. OK, now y'all taking one rig or two rigs, I mean, what you got for backup in case something goes wrong? Because man, as you know, anything can go wrong. Yeah, so we don't have a backup. This is our backup. That truck is my race truck. I have all year, all season and we have a part and a piece for everything in the truck. How many guys are running with you as far as crew? We'll have three, three, three per trailer. So that's two trucks. We travel, two trucks. We'll have a grave digger truck and I might be teamed up with a zombie truck or elsewhere loco. So now those are those on to the grave digger name or their own monster jam. They're a monster, jam filled truck. Yeah, there's quite a few trucks in Megalodon Truck. There's a lot of stuff that's being created that Phil has put out there and people love it. The kids love it. And it's just not Grave Digger anymore. You know, it's it's a lot of trucks. You know, you're coming to see Grave Digger, come see El Toro Loco, come to see Megalodon Max DX and you're a zombie truck was a fan chosen truck that he did. And the thing I want to say, there's four drivers now for that. So tell me about you guys getting along. Like, it's a lot like a lot of camaraderie. Obviously, when you go out, there's competition, but you guys are grinding up and down the road all around the world. How are you guys coexist? Because most of the guys like from my business are the one I was in professional wrestling. You're doing the same thing. It's kind of brotherhood, but you know, a couple of guys always got it. Yeah, you know, out there. But for the most part, we're kind of a circle like how you guys work out. It's good. Yeah, it's a brotherhood. But, you know, as well as I do when you're on the road that long, everybody starts hating each other for a little while. You're right, it's crazy. You don't want to be around anybody. So but when something happens, their truck breaks or we go out there, we're racing. That's when it all comes together. That's when everybody works together for these trucks together are put on the show. We all know when we're going out, they're going to perform them. So drop attitudes. We're going out there, please. The crowd are going to do what we're got to do, but it's intense when we're racing for points like that, like, I'm legitimately like, No, I'm going to whip you, you know what I mean? You're not winning. And it's is legit. Like, We get mad and we fight about it. But at the end of the day, might take a day or two to calm down. But everybody's good at Hey, what do you what do you feel after a good run? Because like when we come out of a ring and we always talk about old time, you get an adrenaline rush. And I can only imagine because I've been in a few monster trucks and being able to just really hit the gas. And it manages nothing. But man, I feel, I guess that truck I was driving back in the day was a methanol alcohol. Yeah, that we're that's what we're using now. Holy smokes, man. One day I told a story many times, but after the rain over the rockstar, I was in that holding area and we were in commercial break and all the curtains were drawn and I was little, literally about two minutes. It was a little bitty small room, but just the curtains opened up into the arena and I drove that truck out to the arena. But during the holding area, dude, those fumes were just coming in the truck. My eyes are water and I can barely breathe. I was like, Man, I can't hang on much longer, chill and my brother, it'll make you gag and everything. Finally, they gave me the green light and I went out there and, you know, we had a big, long red carpet all the way to the ring, and my ring was probably about, you know, 60 80 yards away and man on the way to ring. This is kind of a. We were outlaw back then, but I remember. Yeah, yeah. Do the thing with lock and four-wheel drive. I mean, and boy, I guess, you know, they went. And it just yank a carpet on that camera. Guy was stand on Cubby Massoud. And of course, you know, I just pulled up and I crushed a bunch of other stuff. But my question to you after rambling God just obsession, and we're having fun. What do you feel when you get through crushing it out there and you have a good run? He pumped. I mean, yeah, well, to come down, what is it? Yeah, it's part man's electrifying when you can take a twelve thousand pound monster jam truck and you can hear the fans cheering while you're inside with that motor pumping and going, you know you did your job. So when you get out, yeah, I'm shaking part and you just I'll go run in the stands, you know? I mean, I run in the stands, I take pictures, people do all that stuff. And yeah, I usually can't go to sleep that night, you know, one two o'clock in the morning before you really come down off of that, that adrenaline rush. And that's what it is. It's like once you it's a sickness is what it is. Once you get a taste of it, you don't want to let it go. So I haven't driven in a couple of months. I've been off so I can watch these videos right now and already. I'm ready. I want to get back in the truck right now because you want to go out there and feel that you need that adrenaline rush like your body needs it. But hey, tell me about what what you guys are wearing in there because I'm the man as a pole. Others, I know you got a helmet on. The ultimate question I want to ask you is what that loud a*s engine and you know, just man yelling and straight enters. Yeah, right? And there's open exhaust running out now, OK, mother is still so it's still basically like an open head or just has a magnet flow makes a little little muffler. It has a little bit quieter. But yeah, it's not as loud as heck is what I'm saying. So in there with all your gear on and you can still hear that grab, you can still hear the crowd when you do something crazy. If you get a good saving or good to will like that, you can hear them without a doubt, and it's just the whole place to go insane, saying I think I told the story that yesterday that I did the Staples Center for the first time last year. First time Monster Jam has been in there. We did five shows and that was probably one of the loudest crowds I've heard ever. You could go out there and it makes you go out there and run hard like you push it to the limit. You know what I mean, where you're getting ready to really just mess up and then you get a good save or something in and it it's just the whole place is like, you know, it's like it's going to they're going to tear it down. Hey, when you go out there and all of a sudden you get the floor yourself or going to say, We all run in L.A. staples. Yeah, OK, both we do. Okay, so you're OK, you're out there in a big a*s arenas my point. You out there now? Do you have a complete game plan that of the eight minutes, what I'm doing and no nurse, I'm doing that and I'll do three things over here and I'm gonna do this on the front end thing. Or is it all just make up on the fly? It almost be like setting up a match and following it or calling it in the ring and changing things up. How do you operate out there? So does a crowd dictate that? Yeah, the crowd. The crowd doesn't dictate it. When I go out there from my run, like I'll set up my two wheel skills runs, I'll know what I'm going to do, what my first it's going to be, what my second it's going to be because you get three hits into skills. It's a competition freestyle. I'll pick the first jump. That's it. Whatever happens after that happens because you never know which way the truck's on a bouncer lands Lance. You can't. You can't predict where you're going. You can. You can try all you want. Soon, as you start trying to tell yourself, I'm hitting this next, this next year, you're going to lose focus, then you're going to get it right. You're listening to another classic episode of the Steve Austin show only PodcastOne. This is the Steve Austin show. Take me inside the cabin of a monster truck while you're in there. OK, we've got the raw and the horsepower, the thrill, the adrenaline of that engine. You got the crowd noise, you're taking all that and you had the task at hand. You're focused. But then all of a sudden, you know, with probably four point harness all the safety gear you've got on your word. If fire soon as well a fire suit, five point harness or seven point, depending on what you like, we have this. You know, you heard the Hans device? Yes. So we were going to ask, Yeah, you guys not too restricted? Yeah, you can. You don't move. Only thing you can do is move your eyes this way or that way. We run our hands. Like if you see NASCAR guys run their hands, they run loose so you can take their helmet and the hands will be here and you could go like that with their head. If you do that in our truck, you're not. You're going to see stars because it slams bang. So we run our hands and helmet tight so I can barely clip my own. And then you have no movement at all inside the truck. Once a belt strapped to it, dude, that's a challenge in and of itself. And first of all, man, I'm claustrophobic, man. I just need a showdown. I went down to talk to Dale Jr. and I just got inside a NASCAR car and I was like, Is it so if I had a fire r****dant suit on and then I had a helmet Honda device, homey, don't play that. I make it. So what do you think because you're lassoed in there? If something goes wrong, we'll get to the bumps and bruises in a minute if something goes wrong. And like Dale Junior told me, Fire, fire, fire, get out. What do you do? You just wait for the guys, come in with the fire extinguisher and say, Oh, everything's cool. When you know you're heating up, you're out, you're your instinct kicks in. The gentleman's kicked in, you're out the truck before, you know, unless you get caught up in there. But we have a safety crew and tech guys usually are the trucks rolling over. They're out there, they run into you. But most of the time, if it's on fire or something happens like you're out before, they're there is, you know, like you don't, right? You know, transition, fire or anything like that. It gets really hot, really quick, and it happens fast. So yeah, I was gonna say, when you're in there, you know, I get claustrophobic, too. So the first few times you're in there, it's a scary, dark place inside there because when you're outside, we're waiting in the tunnel because we do interest from outside and we load in the tunnel. It was dark and you're in there. I'll have my crew chief get in and make sure my stuff's right because sometimes you forget, you know, I'm upstairs doing push autographs. Our I'm sorry, push our interviews. We go in the stands and we do interview every show before we kick off. So. And you know, everything is on time. We're on a two hour show, so you got a run down and then you're getting in, you're strapping in and it's all on her. So. So you got you got a guy that kind of government go through like a laundry list or safety checklist. They got everything buckled in a system. I'll just know I just have my crew guys, hey, jump in here and make sure my belts are over my hands. Make sure I'm clipped in and make sure there's no loose ends. And then he will get in and check, basically making sure that my shoulders, my shoulder harnesses are over my hands. Because if one's off, when you jump on that truck, you say it's a left shoulder, left shoulder is coming out every time. That ain't good. Yeah, and it's miserable. Yeah, it's family friendly podcast. There's a lot of other things it really is, but manageable as a word from the day it is. Hey, when you when when I know suspensions are a lot better. But still, man, like you said, there's 12000 barrels jumping in the air or sometimes slamming against something. Take me in. We can't really watch a bunch of money your Instagram account, but but take me through like, what's bad? What's worse? What hurts? I mean, like, yeah, OK, yeah, I know all of them OK. I mean, it's like a body slam art, a suplex. I mean, yeah. So, you know, jumping off the top rope, laying on your back as soon as a missile dropkick? Nah, nah. Nothing happened. And almost everything you do and shattering can hurt. But what hurts after that monster truck, right? Any time you cage the truck, so say perfect example. I was in world finals doing this big two wheel deal and I jumped. I was going to jump from one jump to the next cradle and go to two will. What do you mean? Cradle it? So when I say cradle of the Monster Trucks got a, you know, cradle in it cause it's falling. Yeah, and you just take in basically the jump in the truck, half on the dirt and on and hitting the chassis. Gotcha. Does it roll up and then go up on those sloppy? I did that, I went too fast. So what it did was I went right to the nose and slammed right on the roof and then went over from flips. And then I know my eyes were crossed for a good five minutes after that. So those those hurt. Any time you jump in, your front dives in the back slaps. It's like somebody hit you in the back and hit so hard your a*s fell out of your head. So those hurt any time you can dive in on a corner. It's not so bad. So and it doesn't always happen that way. You know it's a drop in. Well, the safety gears come so far like I got a custom built butler seat in my truck. You know, side restraints, head restraints. You don't move. You know, you got to be tough for sure. You can take it. But some of them, you know, like I said, doing the cage stuff and that you don't want to do that more than once in a week. And I can tell you that. Yeah, but man, what about when is hotter than blazes out there? I mean, do y'all got any kind of ventilation? I know NASCAR guys sometimes I know they were on a vent hose out the top, but I would imagine that and a hot annoying. If they don't, I don't. I just sweat it out. You know, that's an extra thing. I got to hook up, which some people do. They still run the fresh air system in their helmet. Some some of the guys got courses, you know, they got a water running through it. I just, you're old school. Yeah, just take it. It's it is what it is when I'm in black trunks, you know, and you know, knee pads and go out there and give it a hell. Yeah, sometimes those skills better, man. I'm I'm kind of like, No, I like it, though. Here's a question for you. What is he like? I like how how free are you to go out there and just do whatever the heck you want? I mean, with with respect to that truck, because on a circuit that I was taking part of and I think this might have been before Monster Jam or Michigan may have existed, we know it just was a smaller league. But when I was in Austin 3:16 truck, you know that some of those guys, you know on a budget, you know, they just couldn't afford to go out there and, you know, tear everything up. Yeah, but sometimes, you know, a promotion might say, Hey, man, I'm sure there's a bonus, you know, going to happen. So my question is, how free are you to go out there and just terror? I mean, go hog wild with that equipment? Yeah, I I'm I got a Green Line to go like I haven't been told too many times, Hey, we're going to need you to back it down or this or that, then that's what separates us from everybody else. Well, I mean, a grave digger. Yeah, the grave digger is expected to perform well wherever it goes under any circumstances. A standard it is. Yeah. And people want to see that. People know that's what it's about. When Grave Digger always puts it on the line black and green wrecking machine, that's what we call it. Everybody knows it, you know, and they want to see it. That's how that's what it's known for. They know that things are going to be ready to come out here, and it's a chance that's going to crash, roll over, get back on those wheels, brakes, something off, catch on fire. It doesn't matter. They want to see it. Now you've got to be willing to take the chance to go out and perform. That's what you know, some of those ones were going to out. That's some of the craziest saves in the world. And you say and like parts and everything have fallen off and then the guy just keeps making a ride. It's basically, I mean, it's just shredded, but the guy in the crowd will come up just because he's torn up so much stuff that he's maintained. He just kept going. It's like, that's that win at all cost attitude to go for broke part. And you know, they they've committed. Yeah, that really leaves. It leaves an impression on a crowd. Yes, it does. And that's when the adrenaline kicks in for the driver and when that thing, you get a good save like that and it comes back to the wheels. You know that the crowd's problem, you can hear the crowd and you're in there too, so you're going until they shut you off. You know what I mean? Until the truck won't go no more or they shut you off? It doesn't matter. You're still going to perform at the trucks that run we go, and there's nothing more satisfying than being able to have a run like that. It doesn't come every weekend. You know, if you can get a good run like that and get that crowd response, you know you're done your job. They're going to come back. They love it. Hey, you guys are out there and it's only glamorous for you guys. For a very brief moment, if you all run in a two hour show, give or take. Yeah, I guess that ever sometimes. Oh yeah, but two, two hour fifteen. Yeah, but my my point is, you've done your interviews, you sign autographs, and all of a sudden a truck comes to life. You perform. That's the glamorous part of it. Yeah. Let's get down to the nitty gritty of it. But that's the same way with the wrestling business. Everybody sees you out there in your own TV, and that's and that's when you're started to a big star. Yeah, maybe, maybe not. But then it comes live on the road. How is life on the road as a monster truck driver? It's so when I first started, that's all I knew. I didn't care I would. We roll into a hotel, we would do what we do, go out a lot and hang out. You know, we had all the guys there. We all were on the road and even. The drivers are on the road. You know, it was a big hangout time, it was fun. We were away from home. We were on the road. We were all in all these cities, traveling on company time, going to see all these cool things. And it was fun. Four or five years of it, you start slowing down. You know, you're working so much. You're working so hard. You start getting up slower. No. Tired of being on the road. You know the family. You know, my kids and stuff or one or when you're coming home, but you know, you don't have a choice at that point. That's how I make my money. You know, that's where I make my living. And I got to do it because being at home trying to find a job at home is going to pay and, you know, take care of your families a few far in between where I'm at. Man, I tell you what, I always enjoyed life on the road and speaking for myself. You know, sometimes I ran into to the excess or the excessive side of parties and man, those days and they kind of start running at the gray area and then just living in a gray area and the highlight of your day or the highlight of your night in your dog. If your dead dog tired or something wrong or someone got sick back of the house, hey man, my chance to going to ring was when the bright spot of my day. Yeah, but man, life on a road is like, Are you guys? You know, w a couple of beer chairs and my skis are live on the road. It's guys, right? Yeah. Whether you guys are in our business of wrestling, there is always guys. We go and reverse the practical jokes, you know, try try to create some levity. Does that exist out there with you guys? Because when you get a bunch of like minded people, you know, I mean, you guys are all kind of wired the same because if you wanted to be in the pro wrestling business or mobsters, same you looking for a little bit same specialist. So or so what do you guys do to rib each other? Because back in the day, I mean, like if we were if we were working at like a high school auditorium, you know, all the lockers? Yeah. Well, some of those combination locks are open. You know, they all spend time. Yeah. And show, man, a lot of times guys get those and they'd put them through all of your your belt loops on your pants pocket. So when someone has done that to your pants, you ain't, you know, you're not get unless you cut all those belt loops or someone's got a bolt cutter and nobody got a boat. Got it. Or here's another like I'm wearing jeans right now just to tie one knot in that leg of a jeans and the gown. And you're done, yo, you you know you ain't gonna get that in James leg open anytime soon. Or, you know, the old ever down an icy hat and some of his drawers. Yeah, it's kind of getting on the serious side, but lighthearted stuff. What do you guys do to mess with each other, all kinds of stuff? Nobody will. Nobody likes to be around me because I'm like the pranking. They know they don't want that. Yeah, they don't want or, yeah, they don't want to ruin with me. They don't want to do nothin. So like all the new kids coming in the business, when I was crew and stuff like that, they're like, Hey, look, you watch out for him, you know what I mean? They're already giving them heads up so they don't even want to talk to me. They don't want to remain just pulling pranks. No little stuff. Baby powder here. Yeah, sometimes what you do, baby powder put it on me a lot of times, so you could put it in. Say somebody driving your show. I got a buddy driving the truck and you pull up in the head man between the body and the roof. Yeah, they'll take off or hit the brakes something and then just blow a big cloud of baby powder out. You know, it's all kinds of things, and I messing with people's draining mess on people's food and boy gets bad. Hey, boy, I tell you what, those those those are five B, and you're listening to another classic episode of the Steve Austin show only PodcastOne. Ideas are incredible and can transform our world. Actions are powerful and make things happen. We believe they belong together. Deloitte is the world's largest professional services firm. We fuse ideas with actions, creating a powerful impact for business, society and the planet. By combining world class expertise with real world insight, we hope companies in Ireland think differently. Taking them wherever they want to go. Deloitte where ideas and actions connect. Discover more at Deloitte. Totally. I've seen guys and I've heard is the way you guys were, so Anschluss back in the day, man, if someone sends you a drink from across the bar and you didn't see that thing arrive, you know, I will drink, don't touch it. Now, if someone says the same thing with a long neck, if they send me a long neck now, if the cap is on it and yeah, I've been popped, I'll drink it. But if it's an open, long neck, yeah, I won't drink it because I don't know what somebody's done yet, and I've had that happen to me before. Hey, here's a drink. Drink it ! Next thing I know, I don't know what what's going on, where I'm on the other end. It's not that dude that's nothing to play with. Oh, that's a fighting rib. Yeah. And that's when, you know, I'm not staying doing something like I was just, Oh, I know we're we're talking to f**k. Yeah, salt shaker is the best thing you get out of the restaurant. I'll take the cap off and they get a poor man. The salt shaker routine In a move about a year and a half ago, I was at one of them chain restaurants and I reached over and grab out salt and someone had just set it up. Or maybe the waiter or someone had filled it up and put it back on. But whoever it did, they got like a lag. Yeah, I got a dose of salt and I therefore didn't need, oh my like, are you kidding me? Hey, man, I'm like, put in another order. Yeah, I was the king of being able to get in any room in the hotel. Like I could go downstairs and I could talk them into giving me a key to somebody a room. I don't know how they would just know that the magic was because you said, you're from North Carolina. Yeah, you are. And you said at first you kind of didn't have the gift of gab. And almost everybody I know from North Carolina is like a natural born storyteller. So maybe it was a nervous little buddy, but it seemed like if you can talk your way in everybody's room and you ain't had no problem talking to me and we hit it off from day one or the other day. But I mean, it seemed like North Carolina was full of good business, as it's Texas. Yeah, for sure. It wasn't that I could always naturally bulls**t and do whatever you know. But when it came down to it, when they put this microphone in your face and they shove that camera on you, you're like, God, you breathe real quick. You know you didn't. You're not used to it. You're not used to being on that side of things. I was in the mechanics side of it. I was in the back. I was behind the scenes kinda, and they started doing a little bit more with the crew. Guys and stuff put them on camera because they kind of want, you know, fill in time and some downtime. Talk about the trucks as a lot of people were interested in it. So absolutely, I got a little bit there. I just never did a lot of it. Yeah, but but to your point, man, yeah, when you just coming off being part of the crew and I've said, now you're the voice of the truck. Yeah, and someone sticks a microphone in your face was like, Man, who am I going to like, what's my persona? Yeah, so like. Or to identify with the Grave Digger brand or that particular monster truck or find your voice. And that's what it was like. I have been a part of the Grave Digger team and doing this, like I've found my calling and what I'm doing, so I can talk about everything about the grave digger truck and hype the fan up. I always say, like, I have punch lines that I do all the time that I made up because I wanted to be different from everybody else. So I'll see you got catchphrases. Yeah, like, I'll drive this truck on the ground one foot on the gas, one in the grave for each and every one of you fans in the stands were going to go out here when they're struggling. And then I always hashtag, Can you dig it? Yeah, that was my deal I made. I made. I make bracelets for my g name on there now, but can you dig it on? So I go up in pre-show with with with reference to Grave Digger. Can you dig it right? Yeah. All reference to Booker T is to go now. Can you dig that? Book, but you can you dig. It applies to grave digger like dig and you're getting ready to go and dig, dig it. And it just worked. And everybody liked it. So I made I'd make bracelets. You know, the rubber band? Yeah, put. Can you dig it on it and then put Maggie on and I hand them out to all the fans when we go, do appreciate a good idea. You just gave me an idea. Yeah, and it's cool. You can put your Instagram handle on their Twitter or whatever, and they'll know because you can get I think I was getting a thousand of a made for hundred dollars. I was doing it myself, but it helps out. Well, it does. It helps out and helps you, you know, you know, bond with the crowd. And any time you're in show business, you're trying to bond with that crowd. I obsession our business of wrestling. You're trying to make them love you or hate you. I've seen a monster drug. I mean, you want to be loved. You won't be able to pay money to come to you or do you want to get a little extra? But it's like form or not, mine. So if you can go above and beyond on your own dime just by the your cause, I mean, that's a wise investment. Yeah, yeah. Now they're selling them and selling one thing. But just hey, man, here's some. Here's some love. Yeah, here you go. Yeah, I think a sport, if you want to follow me, here you go. Here's a bracelet you got somewhere and they love it and they I hand them out almost every weekend. Here's one for you. Switching gears What's the life expectancy of a career of a monster truck person? You know, driving? Because, man, you know, back in the day, those guys were getting beat to shreds, especially because they were just all. I drove one. I had like a full point on, you know, the deal and I had a helmet. And I mean, it was rugged and I would do nothing or just driving the thing. I've seen your truck. You know, I'm a gear head at heart. As far as your seat and stuff in there, when I look at it, the three 16 draw, you didn't have any head restraints, you have nothing. There was a better seat. Yeah. So that takes a lot of toll on you too. Like Dennis, did it forever. How's he feeling now? He just he keeps rolling every day. You know, you have your days, but at the end of the day, you can't lay up and just, you know, well, how long do you want to do it? I want to do it as long as I can, as long as they'll let me. The company was and as long as I can still get in the truck and go, I want to do it. I know I can at least go 15 years right now. So this would be my third season and I'd be happy with that. I'll be having a team. How is the sport growing? It's growing every single day. It's something new every day. Monster Jam is on top of the world right now. It's unbelievable what all is in the works. Just take it for the scouts I can do. Yeah, I heard about this last week. Hey, let's talk about Kawasaki deal because like right now I'm in Palm Desert, Palm Springs or whatever, and it's every couple of years. There's a big dealer's convention because I'm a brand ambassador. You know, I come down here and check out all the latest, greatest stuff, and I represent the Side-By-Side division. Well, this year, Kawasaki came out with the brand new side by side, side by side everybody has been waiting for. If you're a Kawasaki fan because it's their new high performance by Side-By-Side model, which I have a Kawasaki, Terex and forever that was compared with the Razr in the extreme stuff I got, but it didn't really belong there. It was just kind of that the more material trails and I love that thing, but bulletproof, but it's not into the high speed stuff. Now here comes the car. It's the Terex Car X 1000, and we got a chance to go out there and drive it. So yeah. How did you get lumped into this? I came out, they asked me to come out to set the truck up and do the display deal. And then when I got out here I was, you know, talking to Glenn and stuff like that and kind of told them what I did, and they put me in a side-by-side with or with you guys. So I was kind of just luck of the draw really to come out here and be a part of this. Oh man, that's cool. Because man, as I saw you, I said, Hey, man, or they must be kind of like like experimenting with the same with the monster truck guys. Opinion is of this unit. I mean, totally different. Yeah, genres are hard things, but nonetheless, four wheel drive, you know, horsepower and adrenaline. Yeah. So how did you how did you enjoy your experience out here and how did you enjoy the new Terex Correct 1000? Yeah, the experience has been great out here, not knowing what I was getting into coming out here and then being able to be a part of monster jam induced Kawasaki body on this truck and have everybody love it. That's what the car. So I think this is a big deal out here. I mean, it is there's people everywhere, corporate people. I mean, I want to say the president was here as well. Yeah, it's been great. It's been cool and the machine is awesome. Like, I was happy that I got to ride it and I was happy that I got to give feedback, even though I wasn't really supposed to be out here doing that. No, but it's funny because your feedback from a guy like you? Yeah, I don't mean like I'm going to. I love ride and driving, and I've been doing this for quite some time and I've been riding folders and sabotage my entire life. I don't speak the language. I don't know the technical lingo. Like when Jeremy McGrath is also a master, you know, supercross greatest of all time. When he gives us feedback, it means, I mean, and rewatch those badass videos that they're made of. Those two guys that were there were the drivers in that video, which is premier. I mean, those guys can drive our butts off. So I ain't got no feedback, mister. I don't speak no technical language, but I love Hey, I'll just say this you is behind me, and I was behind the lead dog Kawasaki. I'll say I might have veered off course. Yeah. So, yeah, when you went off course, I was I was the only one. I was like, I was legitimately happy. It was cool, you know? Well, you know, I never knew. I knew you had. I knew your adrenaline rush. Like, I knew what was going to do to you. Like, I know the feeling. So I was having this problem for years. Well, God dang, man, I had my ride partner in there. But, you know, because he was already part of Kawasaki, he was going to drive because most, you know, everybody, we ride with a partner and then you'd swap and the other person would drive while I was riding the whole time. So I start to get a little bit full of myself when I was showing off. And so I just veered off course just a little bit. Driver error? Yeah, but I said, Hey, man, I've never been accused of not being able to push the envelope of being dumb. Yeah, that's a good thing, man. To have that. A lot of people are scared. Like, if I'm getting in something like that, I'm going to push to the limits. That's why we're out there, right? That's one of the yeah, and we did. I had a blast. I stayed to drive most of the time and I we were whipping around and I want to get I got two more questions for you, OK, I want to ask you because I want to talk about my good friend Debra Micelli. OK, do some Alundra Blayze Hall of Famer? Oh, she's a bad a*s douche. And so, but but let's talk about I wanted to ask you real quick. Give me the engine set up horsepower because you said. But what's the motor? Yeah, the motors. It's a Merlin block world had its aluminum pistons, loom minerals. It's a 540 cubic inch. And it's based on a Chevrolet Chevrolet fan order. 12 went mag and must mag 871 little fluid blower on it. Well, £89 boost injected and they rip, man, they're really reliable. Any time you can take and run a motor upside down like that and keep going have twenty seven to 40 hours on it. Have it in the truck for a year. So you know, the motor guys are doing their job and doing a good job at building them for us. And there was a motor like get cost. So a complete brand new ones fifty thousand dollars and fifty four trucks. Every truck has a motor in, every truck has a spare. So that's that's dollars that's just in the motor. You know, it's in the power plant. A whole whole rear end set up as a twenty four thousand dollars just for the front and rear end. You know, that's complete, but everything on them is it's all heavy duty and big, and it costs money. So you can you can. You'll be in one for about 250k man. Oh, I was down in South Texas one time and I think he's down on a radar macallan somewhere. And I was known as going out there and Calvin was smart, Melbourne is saying. But you know, he just told me to go a certain speed and didn't really smart me up on a shifting. And dude, I and this was stupid because I'm a gear head. Well, I like to go fast. I'm not a gear head because I understand that. Know the mechanics of the thing. Yeah, I can't work on nothing. Anyway, I went out there and I for first a second and then he just, I mean, really kind of just out of there, just add a third, but a state on the throttle, wham through a blew up the motor and that was the 3:16 truck. And they just they had the rock truck. It was a go one. Everybody had a lesser powered engine in it and there was another truck and then but I had I had I had broken blown up the engine of the the the truck that everybody came to see. And I was like, Oh my God, it's all about, I want, I want. I felt bad when I went off the car sick. When you blow a motor and it ain't your car, you mean you work for those people. You'd probably feel bad if you did it too. But when you're just showing up to do an appearance and I blow up a guy's monster truck, yeah, I felt like I heard it. So yes, you had it been probably run it on the chip. And that's what happens. If you leave in the first gear and take off and run them like that, it'll kick her out in the open. It's probably what it did or kicked into the black. Alvin wasn't happy. Yeah, hey, you know, and here's a very sad and tragic thing, Calvin, those guys and rev we're all all real cool and we're back in a massive truck nation just making appearances and then at an event one time and Calvin was a veteran. He was, he was one. Oh, jeez, yeah. And man, a big wheel big tire blew off and it was just loss of life. Ernie Arena and it was life flighted him, but it was no longer with us and it was such a cool guy to me. So you never know it, man. The damndest things can happen, man. Just down here in that arena. I mean, it's extremely dangerous when you get the horsepower, the poundage, the speed, the velocity, the impact. Everything goes with it. I mean, even to even if something come through the drive through the floorboard. Yeah, for you guys. So anything could happen. Yes, what we do now is safety is key for us. Like we don't do anything without being safe. Everything is tethered, the tires tethered. If it breaks, it doesn't fall off. It stays with the truck, the drive shaft brakes, it stays with the truck, sway bars. Anything that can fly off is tethered and will not move. We don't want any incidents of anything going in the crowd. And on top of that, like our tech staff, is every truck gets safety checked every single time. We were on checks for belts, checks for nuts and bolts, loose on the truck, as well as the crew guys and fire extinguisher systems. And then we have our eyes inside the truck. So what's that? It's a remote interrupter, and what it does is us. When we're inside of a building, there might be 10 people with a aura, so I'll run on left left channel or right channel. If anything gets crazy or I knock it, I get knocked out or on the throttle hands. They can cut me off at any time. They basically they kill the truck. Yeah, the truck's dead right there. Wherever they hit a button on, it looks like a hand-held walkie talkies look and it's done. And that is like a lifesaver right there. You know, to have that on top of all the other safety things. Well, I didn't know that everything was tethered down because I mean, you go back in the day, I mean, you know, even from high speed auto racing, that stuff continues to happen. But the monster truck thing, man, like you said, I mean a wheel bouncing around and it's happened. It can happen. And the crowd, you talking about devastation one hundred and forty pounds coming at you. And now that is a no pun intended it. That's a monster as tyre. Yeah. The safety thing is so cool just because, you know, for obvious reasons. Yeah, I want to ask you about. My my buddy douche. Yeah, because man, she was a professional wrestler and men, all the guys respected news because she would she would lay it down, man. I mean, like strong style in the ring. I mean, take care of you. But I mean, deuce was tough on down and she go to Japan. I mean, I mean, Japan is as stiff or as strong style because all the boys, I mean, she could work her a*s off. But she was and she was tough. We considered a one, a gash. Yeah. So I respect. And then all of a sudden I find out that she's driving monster trucks. Yeah, she could drive her. And she's the world champion. Yeah. Well, championships. So I mean, did you run across deuce in any of your yeah, experiences? I've raced or I was in the business while she was on the bench. She was in, you know, before I was, she was already driving, but she was around like, he says, she's one of the guys. When you go out and you know, you put a female inside a monster truck. They got to be tough because you I mean, you have to be tough to get in. So for her to go out there and run with the boys and, you know, hang tough and do her deal, she's out there freestyling back, flipping, just throwing it down. Being one of the guys out on the track and she did a good job of it. Yeah, she's wired, but you know, wired like, you know, to do that kind of stuff. And you know, when she came out of the pro wrestling, you know, she'd been in it for quite some time. So your body takes a pounding in that line of work and then you get into another line of work that you know, at first glance, you'd think, well, it's a monster truck. And that's why when you when you start, like we said, dissect it and break it down, it can be it beat the hell out of you. Yeah. So she's a tough a*s woman, but a universal respect from the monster crowd, people, right? Oh yeah, sure. Universal respect from the monster truck. People, right? Yeah. Much expect her. You know, she was doing this when you know, they run on board seats and no restraints, no head restraints and stuff like that. So she was doing it right there alongside of Dennis and Tom and everybody, all those cool people. So she's a legend as well. You know what I mean? To be able to go from doing that, being a world champion, beating all the boys and then, you know, coming to where it evolved sort of getting better. And she was still in the sport. So much respect her man. It's awesome that a female came in and I guess a male white, male dominated sport, probably the same as wrestling at that time and throws it down. So that's cool. So everybody, you have to respect somebody like that. Male. Let's we're going to wrap this podcast up. We're sitting in my Yukon Denali exhale. We're in a parking garage. It's a hundred degrees outside and we've been we had the windows rolled up. The car is not running. We're sweating, not washes off. And I'm like above a heat stroke here other than brutal water before we go. Thank you for giving me an hour of your day and I'mma see you in a couple more days before you leave. But being on a podcast, I've always been such a fan of the monster truck stop. And now to see, you know, Monster Jam continues to get bigger and better and all the bookings and all the success, and for you to be a part of the Grave Digger franchise is truly obviously for you and honor. And yes, you know, if you're representing well, is there anything that you'd like to plug or promote as far as your Instagram or where people can find a grave digger or monster jam? For sure. Yeah. You guys want to follow me. Brandon Vinson, driver of Grave Digger Brandon Vincent Guy on Instagram. You can follow me on Facebook. But come out, Man Monster Jam is on top of the world right now. Do you guys see Monster Jam shows? Go to him? You've never been. You got to go. It's a family show. You'll love it. You'll be ecstatic when you leave there, man. I promise you, you all have smiles on your face and you'll come back. So check it out. It's cool for everybody that's been. We're coming 2020. We're coming to a city near you. Check us out. It's going to be an unbelievable year. A lot of new stuff coming along and we got a big tour mix up, a lot of new people on tours. It's going to be it's going to be epic. So everybody come check it out. And part of the thing is, it's been a long time since I've been to a supercross or motocross race. But when you leave, it's like leaving a monster truck event. Man, when you get home and yeah, that exhaust note is ringing in your ear. So it's a feeling it's a good feeling at last with you and in a good way. So I enjoy the adrenaline and testosterone, everything that goes with the excitement, the skill of the drivers and guys working so hard to put on a really entertaining show. And it's hard to get people. I mean, and anything these days are so many different things to do or stream or whatever. You know, going to a live event is the way to see it. So, man, yes. Best of luck to you. You've been following the grave digger for a long time. It's been great to meet you here. Kawasaki out here driving a car wrecks 1000 and hell man, safe travels. When you come back to L.A. to L.A., I told you you got my phone number. Yeah, yeah, let me know and I will be there. Okay, I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me on your show and it's been a sweat box, but we're having a good time. Thank you for joining us for another classic episode of the Steve Austin Joe. Please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and tell your friends. For more Steve Austin show, go to PodcastOne Gqom. That's podcast. Only account. All month long on Pluto TV Stream, the biggest Tyler Perry movies free. Watch your favorites like Madea's Witness Protection and Madea's Big Happy Family. Joy Tyler Perry as he goes on a couples retreat with Sharon Leal in Why Did I Get Married? Or Idris Elba and Gabrielle Union in the Tyler Perry directed film Daddy's Little Girls. Plus, Pluto TV has hundreds of channels with thousands more movies and TV shows available on live and on demand. 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