AMA with Jax Taylor

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Hammered here as pod like and subscribe. Give us a five star rating and that's about it. That's all I got. Today we are talking about one of the most legendary dicks of all time. We were talking about the man who gave the true meaning to the word dick, and that is coach Mike Ditka, Dutch coach Doug, coach of Dubya's. I shout out here, have a quarter make a phone call. Get your mouth shut. Get your mouth shut. Jerk. Nick, you see that that's your IQ, buddy, zero. Now, Brendan, this one is a is very this is a big one for you. Like, I feel like Joe Namath was a big one for me. Yeah. Urban Meyer, just because of I just simply just hatred. But this one is a big one for you. You've been bugging me to do it. You've been do you? Every day I get a text when we're doing, what we're doing is basically the perfect combination of a hammered hero and a hammered villain colliding at once. What happened? Good and evil comes together into one man, one mustache, one cigar or a thousand cigars. Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Terminator one piece of gum that he can't stop chewing while he talks. I'm pretty sure Mike Ditka chews gum while he sleeps. Let's just put it this way we're really excited about this. It's this is going to be an epic episode, and anybody who grew up a Bears fan, this is for you. I did not grow up a Bears fan. I did grow up a Bulls fan. So I do like the city of Chicago. My mother now lives in Glenview, Illinois, and is moving into the city of Chicago. So I do feel some sort of kinship here. But I do know we do have a Chicago native, Brennan Fitzgibbons, who has been leading the troops in the Mike Ditka. Yeah. Also, this is just like you have to cover Mike Ditka. Like this guy? Low key is an icon, and he's also a weirdly a fashion icon. People are still dressing up like him. It's insane. In the sweater vest and the sweater vest for Halloween, if you go to any bears games, they're always dressed as Duck Coach just with nine cigars. But before we do that, we're getting into our honorary hammered hero with somebody who we celebrate every week who exhibits heroic behavior. It could be sports related. It doesn't matter. It could be anybody. It might be me. One year, you know, one day it's going to be you. And this actually is close to both near and dear to our hearts. It started as a typical Saturday night for the Stonehouse family outside of Detroit. It was a little father and son. Time mom was out at the movies with her girlfriends, Keith and his six year old son Mason, hanging out eating chicken sandwiches and fries for dinner. This story comes from Michigan. A Michigan man had to pay a thousand dollar bill on Grubhub after his six year old son ordered a s**t ton of food from several different restaurants last weekend. It just put him down to bed. He was playing with my phone for 30 minutes before that, and I never suspected that he was going to do what he did. What Mason did was order food. What's your favorite food in the whole world? Doesn't. A thousand dollars worth of shrimp and other food from his dad's Grubhub account by jumbo orders of shrimp and endless sandwiches and ice cream and chili cheese, fries and rice and grape leaves leading to a string of unexpected deliveries. This is according to the app and maybe a starring role in a future online ad campaign, which I think is hilarious. You want it? Five hundred and thirty nine dollars worth of pizza, right? Yeah. Dad wrote off the first couple of deliveries because his wife, Kristen runs a bakery out of their home, but then the doorbell continuously rang over and over again. It was just nonstop. The execution of Mason's late night snack attack flawless five minute span. He had ordered food from every restaurant in town. And actually, this reminds me of a great story. I have a friend who got very drunk in New York. His name is Tim. I won't say his last name. It's Tim. And he told me that one time he got so drunk, went home, ordered eighty seven dollars worth of Mexican food from Grubhub. It rolled up his apartment and try to convince the delivery guy he didn't do it. That's exactly what you would do. It's like it's the most specific. It's also just a weird amount. It's a yeah, of course you f**king did that. It's not me. I mean, someone else hit my phone and yeah, but I'll take it. I'll take it. You want to leave it. I mean, the amount of times I don't know about you, Brennan, but the amount of times I have ordered food on Grubhub and fallen asleep. Oh, that's tough. And then woke up and just either had 15 missed calls. Yes, or the pizza's just sitting in the street and it's like, f**k you. This was your decision to order food at three o'clock in the morning. It's a thing we shouldn't have as much power as what this is coming to, and this is very similar to what you just said. One time I was in Nashville with my cousin and she got very drunk. We're in Nashville. She's like, I'm an artist pizza. I was like, OK, great. I get a call. She passes out several calls. The guy goes, What's up? I'm here. I'm like, I don't see you. He goes, Yeah, I'm here. I looked down. She ordered the pizza to her office in New York. So she is at her business office in New York with all this pizza, and I don't have any like a really friendly conversation. I was like, Listen, man, this is a huge mistake. He's like, Well, what should I do? He's like, You know what? I'm going to leave it here. And the office, just like you said, he's a guy going to take a picture of it. He took a picture of the pizza he left on the ground on the street in New York, and we were in Nashville. I called it, Man, I called it, I've definitely done. I've definitely sent orders to the wrong place. I have actually order food at your place and fall asleep. Oh yeah, I think I might. I woke up, but thank you. Those were great days. Remember when you used to be fun? Oh wow. Comes out. Who wants some sweet greens? We just had some. We just had some tender greens, baby. So but let's let's not get it twisted, man. It wasn't just a s**t ton of money. He spent sick, did you say you spent six thousand two thousand, but the bright side of this story is that it looks like Grubhub gave him back a thousand dollar gift card to Grubhub. OK, but that's nice. No, I don't. If that's nice because I'd be like, Yo, my son did this. Like, I have the money. Can I have like my actual liquid cash? That's a good point. But there is a new Grubhub. I do Uber Eats. There's a chance, though, that he might get his own commercial now, which, you know, makes me want to go home and maybe order a thousand dollars off of Amazon and see what happens. Listen, man, you never know. You never f**king know. But shout out to that kid. You're going to probably be super rich very soon. Residuals, baby. But today we're talking about God, a legend. Let's get into it. Let's do it. So here it is. 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He is legendary Super Bowl winning man who never stops chewing gum. Accidental fashion icon, former head coach of the Chicago Bears. And the New Orleans Saints Mike Ditka. OK. He is known as Iron Mike Ditka for several reasons. The first being he grew up in a steel town outside of Pennsylvania, and he should also be known as Iron Mike because he smoked enough cigars to make cancer scared. And somehow he's just fine at 83. His lungs are made of iron. This guy has had so many cigars. He also has a bunch of steakhouses. Also, there's all over Chicago and Florida, so there's red meat, red meat, whiskey and cigars, baby and a mustache and swearing in anger. And that's how you live. That's how you live until you're one hundred and six men. Yeah, just goes to show you can do whatever the f**k you want. It doesn't matter. It does not matter. He is our hammered hero for so many reasons. Most notably, one of my favorite reasons is his absolutely horrifying, god awful rendition of Take Me Out to the Ballgame during a Cubs game on July 5th in 1998. Here it is. Well, Mike Ditka is in the building, but we're going to have to take over unless he gets here very quickly. The question that I have had is, was he drunk during this? A lot of people have said yes, it's not confirmed. All right, guys. So we're watching. First of all, he's late and Steve Stone has to cover for him. This is what Steve Stone is doing right now. Everyone's waiting for a booing God. They're about to poor. Steve Stone has to cover. Here he comes home on. This is a dramatic pause. And so this time he comes rolling in like a hurricane. Mike Ditka has made it. And boy, am I it happy as happy as all of you. Mr. Ditka, though, his tongue was literally out, he was lick and his lip is probably. Yeah, so is he drunk? Is the question a one and a two and a train? Home. Why? Right back here, the old. So is he drunk, is the question? No, no, I just think he's tone deaf. Wow. It's like someone was holding him under water as he was singing or punching him in the stomach, holding his breath. And actually, when he's done, he does this thing where he goes, Oh, ball game and sticks out his tongue like he had just done the whole thing. Yeah, and one breath, like he looks like he's about to pass out the whole time. Yeah. So what he says is he was running late and running up the ramps and Wrigley Field, which there are ramps like the building is so old it's crazy. I do believe that even if he was drinking. I do believe that it's so exhausting to just like run up and have especially your heart's racing because you have to like to be on or whatever. And he's out of breath. But his face was so red and like, I think he was drinking. Is this also that's his post coaching days. So just to give an overall arching view of Mike Ditka, he kind of represents the grittiest parts of Chicago. And why he's so revered in Chicago is he was solely responsible. And we'll get into this for two of the most iconic Bears team's first winning as a player, a Super Bowl in 1963, and then arguably the most iconic NFL team ever, the 1985 Chicago Bears pitcher. We will get to you. But first, let's back up. Let's talk about the man known as Michael Deacon. So how do you say that Dick? So Dick Dick's like, is disco disco? So that was his Ukrainian name. Michael Disco. And they shortened it to Michael Ditka because they didn't want to just do this is Mike Ditka. So Ditka played. He was an incredible athlete. Again, very similar theme to all of our hammered heroes. He played three sports. He went to the University of Pittsburgh from 19. He played every single sport like me. Sophie Santos overshadowed everything else for not softball because it's too early, it's too bullying. There are too many good athletes, so I want to play bowling. So you play at University of Pittsburgh again, hardcore steel town. He lived in government housing. He grew up so scrappy working cla*s. His dad worked in the steel mills. He was surrounded by steel mills, so he played in Pittsburgh, 1958 to 1960. He was a baseball player, a basketball. He was also an inner mural wrestling champion. That makes sense. But here's what's crazy is he looks like a wrestler. He looks much like a wrestler. While he played at the University of Pittsburgh, he was a linebacker. He was a defensive end and wait for it. A punter? Can you imagine it? Just those are not. That's not a combo that I think goes together. A linebacker, defensive end and a punter. I will say back in my glory days again about your career. I mean, listen, we got to bring it up somehow. I don't know. I didn't think I was going to be relevant, but now it's like it's, you know, I got to keep the glory days going. I play defensive end and nose tackle. So, OK, but you're on the line line. It'd be like if Chris Jones, you're watching the chiefs play and they're like, Check out the Chiefs wonderful place kicker Chris Jones. Tommy Townsend. Just you're out. It's Chris Jones. You're out, dude. Yeah, no, that's actually really good. No, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense at all. Yeah, it's random to be good at all three of those things. And but he played. Where did he do all three of those? So that was University of Pittsburgh. And then he was finished being as an all-American, and he was drafted by the Chicago Bears in 1961, when he was the Rookie of the Year. He is considered to have revolutionized the tight end position. I imagine Kelsey, you know, with a lot more anger and just a belly full of boos. Now Britain, you say I have great tight end energy. OK, you always say that. Are you saying I should grow a mustache and start yelling at people to shut up? No tight ends have like swag, right where they smash someone in the face and they're like a little bit loopy, a little crazy. Look at George Kittle. Look, even Hockenson Hawkinson looks like he fought in Braveheart. The movie like a little bit. He's got that vibe where he might have a spear at one point. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we're a little bit. I think that you used to have that energy. Now I feel like you're slowly transitioning more into offensive coordinator energy. Wow, why did I go from being really cool and like not knowing what you know? I don't really know what's going to happen to an offensive coordinator who wears like a f**king tucked in polo shirt, because now you have a plan like before you're like swag. Now you're like, I'm a responsible person. I eat chicken all the time, OK? It just seems like I'm just not cool anymore. But that's OK. That's fine. Yeah. So he was at the Bears for, I believe, five seasons. He was killing it. He was a Pro Bowl choice most of those seasons. He also was on one of the most legendary Bears team that won a championship with Gaels. There's Dick Butkus. Well, Dick Buck. Yes, I mean, think about these names. Also, Gale Sayers was incredible. The 1963 iconic bears say they won the Championship. He also was coached by George Halas. This relationship will come into play later on when he circles back. He ended up leaving the bears because he's basically was calling house sheep publicly, and he was a really interesting theme that now is still playing out in the Bears today is how unbelievably f**king cheap the McCaskey were, and I had no idea how bad it was. Basically, Dickens quote was like, Here's the rose nickels around like manhole covers. I was like, Well, this was a different time that these are the analogy that we're using manhole covers. What are manhole covers basically saying like building piping for the streets like they were everywhere? He was saying like these just insanely cheap. When they hired Dick to be the Bears coach, they gave him the bare minimum. Some contract, I love it. It's like he's just he's not doing that great. He's not going to use that money. Kind of like L.A. does for the streets. Am I right? Like, it's so soft, but like, yeah, they're trying to be hard, right? Of their era, too. How about that New York City Transit? Am I right? He also, for a guy who swears all the time and screams, he also referred to everyone as gang. He's like, All right, listen, gang, we had a really bad game. Yeah, it's really funny. Oh, it's great. So, OK, so we're moving through his career. He basically left the bears. He went to the Eagles where he started drinking a lot. He this is the first public since you're in Philadelphia. Yeah, and this is why, again, where all the violence and drinking from Philly fans probably originates. He had like the worst year of his life. He was drinking during the season. He talked about this in his biography, and then he was rescued by Tom Landry and the Cowboys. Sophie, where he actually finished his career playing for the Cowboys, did a really good. Then he went on for an assistant coach on the Cowboys. And this Sophie made me laugh so hard I had no idea. Let's watch this VIDEO While he was coaching for the Cowboys. OK, you coach the receivers. This gives you an idea of who Mike Ditka really was. A Pittsburgh Steelers player did a cheap shot on a Cowboys receiver. He gets hit for a penalty. He basically body slams his player on first down, Roger will throw and as Drew Pearson got a bounce by Ron. First down, our flag is down. It's going to be an unnecessary roughness, as John Johnson Drew Pearson clear beyond the fence line. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, a spray assistant coach named Mike Ditka takes a football, throws it at the Steelers player and you just see it. Somebody just hit Johnson in the back of the head with a football might be somebody on the Dallas bench. It's going to be a call for unnecessary roughness. Unsportsmanlike. Nobody took off with the flag. That's taunting, isn't it? This ball come out of nowhere and then Ditka try to act like he didn't just do it. It is so incredible. I was laughing so hard. And then Dick Van acts like so guilty, like hides behind like a couple of different players. And Mike doesn't admit it, but it was so clearly him. Just threw a football at him, dude. Oh my God, he's like hiding behind all of his players. He's just like holding on to his pad, acting like he didn't just throw an entire football at somebody. It was so good. So many things that Mike Ditka did. And we'll cover this. You could never do now, but it's so fun to watch now. In hindsight, it's Urban Meyer did kick his own kicker. So, you know, yeah, OK, that's it. That's not what got him out. That's not that's not what got him fired. So Dicker basically burned a bridge with George Wallace, but then he was on the Cowboys. And it's funny how much back then a lot of relationships were built on writing letters. Mike take of all people, wrote a letter to George Wallace basically asking to be the coach. I don't think he was asking to be the head coach, and George House right away hired him, which is crazy because the bears he had a bad relationship with the Bears were in a state of total disarray. They were like, not at all a disciplined team. All the players were like we were falling apart. I love the idea of this really tough Mike Ditka sitting near candlelight, which just scroll and feather and ink and just writing out. You know that he wishes to be coaching, that he wishes for a coaching position and then he puts it, is signet ring and some so good whacks and then just sends it off by Byrd, right? That just feels, yeah, absolutely insane. Bill Byrd also has a pretty the letter around a cigar. One of my favorite facts about Mike Ditka is that he actually really wanted to be a dentist. I mean, listen, it's a it's a great occupation. It's good health insurance. I can't imagine a worse dentist. This is an exact quote. I really wanted to be a dentist. That's why I went to Pitt to get into dentistry. Can you imagine? So here is Mike Ditka means that they're going to act out. Here's Mike Ditka as a dentist. I will play Mike Ditka. I will play the patient. Hey, open your big, stupid mouth, sir. You heard me. Open it now, dummy. OK. Your teeth are dirtier than a West Virginia coal miner. Well, should I've lost more? Next question Should I know? Next question I smoking a cigar. I'm out of here gets ash all over the teeth and it's your fault. You made me mad, and that's why I got ash on your teeth. He would just break so many teeth. Somehow, this is a football there. Him as a dentist is the literal worst idea I could possibly think of. That is such it feels like little shop of Horrors like we're in Little Shop of Horrors. There was the dentist character and his whole thing was he loved getting high on gas and then just like f**king up everyone's mouths like, that's actually what seems like Ditka would do, and that's probably what his influence was. He doesn't want to be like a good, friendly dentist. Hey, son, hey, Sam, I know you're scared the dentist, but don't worry, you're not going forward because you're going to see two hundred and seventy pound Mike Ditka, Mike Ditka, Dentist, Ditka. I would like to introduce you to your open heart surgeon. It's Hulk Hogan. He's fine. He might rip his shirt during the surgery, but don't worry. But don't worry, you're good. It's crazy. All right, so let's talk a little bit about how good these 1985 bears were. Number two defense of all time. 1985 bears my man. I will kill him. Well, I won't get that first dead was a no. I'm getting there first, and I'm looking at these guys and I'm saying, Wait, wait, the guy bleeding, you don't have to kill the guy. We don't care. We're going to get him. That's what we do. Basically, Mike Ditka came to the Chicago Bears. He walked into the room the first day. This is told from the player's perspective, and he's like the first practice. He gets us all together, he said. Boys, I've got some good news and I've got some bad news. The good news is you give me three years, we're going to the Super Bowl. The bad news is half of you ain't going to be here to see it. I got great news, fellas. He's like, Give me three years, we're going to win a Super Bowl. Bad news is half of you won't be here. So it was just such a different ethos. He was trying to get our attention and say, Guys, guys, I played on a team that went and won a Super Bowl, and I was going to coach on a team that went and won a Super Bowl. I know what we have to do, but what? I didn't know what was so fascinating. Watching the throw for throw on the 1985 Chicago Bears is that the Bears defense was entirely led by Buddy Ryan. Mike Ditka had nothing to do with it. This is legendary defensive coach Buddy Ryan. He invented the most famous 46 defense. They did not like each other. There was horrible animosity on a level that's never existed before. Mr. Hollis could have lived to be a hundred and fifty would never have. But Iran is a head coach and head coach. Stuff stinks, you know, like dick is a jerk or damage, Mike. I think it's insecurity, I think. See. Be honest with you, I don't care. This conversation has gone far beyond me, matter of fact, more literally, Mike Ditka, there's a story that Mike Ditka went into the defensive room once and Buddy Ryan through an eraser at him and Buddy Ryan. Mike Singletary said, I've never even heard Buddy Ryan refer to Mike Ditka by name. But what Mike said? My hope he would call them like that, man. So it was two monster crazy alpha dogs running this team, buddy, right, also had a resentment because he thought he should have been the head coach, which I get because he was there before and all the players loved him, right? And when everybody thinks about how good this Bears team was, everyone's like, it was dick. And truth is not really it was really Buddy Ryan. But Dick did really help the offense, right? And the 85 bears were just riddled with the biggest cast of insane characters. I mean, we got Mike Singletary, Jim McMahon, who would wear sunglasses, and they came out later that he was high all the time, and I'm Percocet said he was our quarterback. He was a party Catholic who went to bring them young and then came to the bears who drank at his draft. He had a beer at his draft. Oh my God. Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm looking out right now. He has a he has a yes. Jim McMahon has a white headband that says Rozelle. Yes. He looks like the guy, the bad guy in Blade Runner. He looks like a bad guy from Blade Runner. He looks like a bad guy from Blade Runner. The old 80s Dune, 80s bad guy. That's exactly how he looks. The guy from Marty McFly. Oh, Beth. Yeah, he looks like Biff from back to the future. Guys like this is f**king insane. I would not want to go up against this guy. We need to do an episode of Jim McMahon. Oh my god, I'm looking at this dude. Look at this photo. It's so good. There's a photo of Jim McMahon. He is completely burned from probably being on the beach all day. Yeah. He looks like he just ate literally the blood of a child. He didn't want a practice. He didn't want to go to films. He just he goes, I just live for Sundays. He started calling his own plays, and him and Dick had massive feuds with each other. Ditka would make fun of him publicly to the press. Oh, he's funny. Excuse my French. And then McMahon would make fun of him to the press. Here is a clip of some of their exchanges. It's insane. You know, here's a guy that I talk tomorrow to ask him, What's the matter? He won't talk to me at all if the whole whole thing society is about every time you disagree with somebody, forget it. Why does he say I'm partners? Because I don't go kiss women's empowerment when it's all said and done? Jim McMahon won't write my epitaph. Then I would imagine that. Would you see who writes if I'm going to write my own epitaph and it's probably going to say, What are you looking at? Oh, this is good. It's so good. And you know what's even really cool? They actually really made up, and when Dick has time with the Bears was tanking. He's like, I'm going to bring back Jim McMahon, and they interview Jim McMahon. And he goes, Yeah, I knew he was going to get fired when he said he was going to bring me back. That was the last straw. That's great. Yeah, dude. I mean, that's f**king perfect, I think. I love that, that they were just raising each other to the news. It also felt like there were times when I look at the interview and it kind of like, look like both of them were kind of laughing. Yeah, it's like they were into it. Honestly, sometimes I wish you would just say how you feel like, you know, like right now the Phoenix Suns, my Phoenix Suns. But there's clearly beef going on between Monty Williams and DeAndre Ayton, and they won't talk about it, right? And Monty Williams is, and he's a great standup guy, and I know that you love L.A money, but he keeps just being like, No, you know, it's just Aiden is, you know, he's doing his thing and, you know, he works hard and I'm like, You guys f**king hate each other. Just f**kin say it. Yeah, be normal. Be human. f**k and say it. So you f**king hate him. You literally you benched him during the final game like that. Mean something during the biggest game when we f**king lost the Mavs, but it was cool. Yeah, because when you watch that clip too, it comes out in the Chicago sports reporter. I was like, Man, those were fun times, and I think about how much fun it would be even if you didn't like these guys. So we should talk about just how belligerent Mike Ditka was during interviews. He would be so mad. There is this incredible clip of this sportscaster named Johnny that would always go on Ditka. We're going to recap the games they're fighting for, like two minutes off camera, swearing at each other because Dicky doesn't want to be there. Why are you in such a f**king bad mood? No, I wasn't going to do it last week. I wasn't going to do it for NBC either, because it's the same thing I do at night, John. I'm not. I'm not. As a matter of the same thing, Mike. Just I'm not. I'm not against a bunch of questions about bulls**t, but I'm going to answer tonight. I'm going to answer the same thing. I look at the same film tonight. I say I'm not. And then as soon as it goes live, he's like, Okay, thank you, Howard and a happy Mike Ditka. We're safe because the Bears wanted, although there he was dissatisfied with some of the things. Well, Mike Dick is really happy to be here. Just like, go into this fake spiel, it's so funny with Ditka screamed at everyone. There's a great clip of him. Here's Ditka screaming about the Bears fans for not being aggressive enough on their side. The win was much appreciated by us, and evidently it must even woke up some fans in the stadium. They got out there in the second half. We got him off their hands and that's amazing. Well, I'll tell you thought we were in a mortuary for a while? Yeah, dude. I mean, I f**king love that. I appreciate it. Are you? Are you going to wrap the fans now? I'm going to wrap the ones that sit on your hands. Yes, I am. Do you want to ask me why? Because they're lousy fans. Not in her hand. Well, sometimes when you don't score points. No kidding. I'm just given you their side and they aren't fans if it's based on scoring a point, John. That's not the idea. The idea is to be fans before you score and then you might score. I mean, Nick Saban does the same s**t because everyone assumes that Alabama's always going to win. And so but especially when we play the smaller teams like Florida International University Southern Mississippi, you know, something like that. And all the fans will like leave midway through the game. Or if we have, like a, you know, insurmountable lead, they'll also leave. And he said during press conferences like, f**k you guys. Yeah, like, I love that. Like, you know, you're so privileged, you need to stay here and stay out of the whole game. So I'm here for it, man. I think that's good. I love one of my favorite ones is a fan. Also, like how much more are just rowdy and like lively? Were these sports shows fired almost as many verbal attacks as his team has when he's publicly ripped his quarterback, a newspaper reporter and now a fan who had some choice words for Iron Mike during a radio talk show, a fan called in and told that Mike Ditka was crying basically on the sidelines. And here is the coach's response. Why did it appear that Mike was holding back and trying not to cry like a baby that he is? We had no idea what you are. I can't say on the air, but I tell you what. I'm 53 years old and I my opposite 250 North Washington. Any time you want to meet me there, you call me back on the air. You tell me what time and when and I'll whip your. Oh, I love it, man. You got that big guy to hide behind a microphone stand. Let's get your face out in public and let's live where people have to see you every day. And we'll see who the gutless wonder is. I love it. We don't have s**t like that or have anything like even remotely like this. I just got to say there is something about and maybe it's because I'm southern or yeah, maybe it's cause I like it when things are chippy, but I do like the I do love it. Like in the past where if someone f**ked with you, you went on record during your press conference as an athlete or as a coach, and you said, No, I'm not putting up with this bulls**t. Like, I'm not going up with this bulls**t if you want to fight me because a lot of all of it is just it's smoke and mirrors and you. So if you want to fight me, here's my address and come invite me. I love it. It was a different time, and I'm f**king here for it. Would you do it? Would you? You think you be. You'd get chippy and you just say, Listen, man, fine, come up here. I don't think so, but I would wear this Daniel Jones jersey and blame it on him. Great. I think that, no, this whole era is so fascinating. There's this amazing clip to where Jim McMahon is being interviewed and they're like, So what are you hearing about the Bears new quarterback who happens to be Jim Harbaugh is the Bears quarterback at the time? Ed McMahon goes. Well, you know, I wasn't around him long enough. He was there. I think only one year, maybe two and never played, but just just from what I've heard from his own teammates and from people around the league, there's not a whole lot of respect for the guy. A lot of teams would much rather see him in there than anybody else. I don't know. I mean, nobody in the league really likes him and thinks he's out the future. He doesn't got a shot. It felt more like professional wrestling was, you know, like where people would openly talk s**t, but it was just something so honest and cool about it. So I love his press conferences. This is if I haven't said it enough, I do like it. When people are honest and press conferences, I think it's f**king great. And so this is great. This happened. So, so basically, Ditka was asked by a reporter why he put a certain player in, and Ditka was asked by the reporter, and the reporter said, So what was the reason for Terry going in? And his response was because I sent him in Joe. And then the reporter goes, Yeah, no, I know. But like what? Besides that, what was the reasoning? And he's like Joe because I sent him in Joe. Yes, I know. But they're must. The been the reason, Joe, the reason. As Joe, he was a great decoy and it was a perfectly designed play by a great, great football coach. Don't you ever forget that, Joe? The reason is he was a great decoy and it was a perfectly designed play by a great, great football coach. Don't you ever forget it? Next question? I love it. You're just like, because I said So it's because I'm the f**king greatest and shut the f**k up as stupid as I mean, and he took this attitude everywhere. He did SNL. There's outtakes of him on SNL, where he literally is. Does one take and gets immediately so mad at the director? Here's what he says. Let's get it done, sweetheart. That's your fault. It's no one else's fault, but yours. You're the only son of a b***h behind the camera. So what is he mad about? Either you had to do it again, and Ditka gets mad because there's more than one take. I don't listen if I don't piss around like this. I don't do it when I get paid to do it. You know, I mean, once enough, the guys, I'm not in your business. I don't know how this works, but I only do it when I get out of here. I only do it when I leave the ego. Well, guys, we hate to leave you, but we have so much on Ditka that we're going to do two participants. We're going to get into more on the eighty five bears his actual drinking, including getting a DUI in 1985, where people called the state trooper to complain that they pulled him over and a bunch of his drinking fiascos as a coach, being drunk on camera and interviews. Yeah, it's crazy. 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