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Brendan Schaub talks Francis Ngannou vs Tyson fury and why he thinks Francis won and if there was no Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor, there wouldn't be a Fury vs Ngannou. Also, why he even thinks Francis would beat Jon Jones in MMA and do better against Anthony Joshua than Tyson Fury would. How Dana White not attending the Fury vs Ngannou event was the biggest mistake in his career. Also, we take a deep dive into current events around the combat sports world and much more. Sheath Underwear - Go to - https://sheathunderwear.com/ now and use PROMO CODE: SCHAUB to receive 20% off today DraftKings - Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app NOW and use code: SCHAUBSHOW Happy Hippo - https://happyhippo.com/pages/brendan-schaub Promo Code: Thiccc23 for 20% OFF

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00:22:47 12/14/2024

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You'll also get an exclusive to my new podcast, Beat It Out, where I share unpolished ideas with my comedian buddies. The first series of episodes is gonna be Jay Mohr. You'll get all this and more for the low, low price of $9 a month, a pittance for all we're going to bring you. Subscribe now at adamparola.com/substack, and I'll see all of you in our new Speakeasy called substack. It's time for Carolla and Mayhem. Game on. Oh, yeah. What's going on, Mayhem? Man, I'll tell you what. There's a bunch of MMA news, and a, you know, pretty great card tonight. But first, I mean, this happened this week. 1 of the biggest no. The biggest sports contract in sports history, superstar outfielder Juan So to just landed the biggest deal ever. $765,000,000 over 15 years, I guess. It is that's crazy money. What do you think about that? So it was 750 over 15 years? 765, it says. Uh-huh. So I was trying to think about that the other day. So then, it's like 50,000,000 a year because it's 500 for 10 and then, to 50. 51. Right. So a little over 50,000,000 a year. I don't appreciate baseball as much as I appreciate other sports. Yeah. I don't It's always good to get people paid, and it always is good because it'll it'll attract young people when they were turned into basketball and football and stuff like that. I mean, if you're an athlete, you should probably go play baseball because you have a longer career and now you can get paid. And you could get paid in the past. It's a sport you don't get injured as I mean, I guess you do because It's not that much. Yeah. They get injured I think, and I've noticed because I know athletes, and I've seen injury. I've seen training rooms of different kind of sports. But I think standing still and spitting seeds and then suddenly going a 100% is not that great for the body. So they get injuries like they tear stuff from going from dead cold to all of a sudden have to do super hard work. I would make it illegal to eat during the game. Right. I I don't feel like you need to eat during the game. I don't know. It's a 3 hour window, and you're barely doing anything. Stop with the seeds and the spitting the seeds and the spittle everywhere. They're bored. That's why baseball is no good because they get bored because they sit in the dugout, and they make they make, pyramids out of seed huts. I went to a game the past season. They have the timer now. So it's like Oh, that's good. You know, they make it so that it's quick. They have to pitch, but but, you know, before 2 minutes is up, I think. Yeah. So it's very weird to have a round timer right there on the side of the damn dugout. Yeah. We did a man show bit once a 1000000 years ago where me and Jimmy tried out for the Dodgers in Vero Beach, and it was it was it was fun. Tommy Lasorda and all those. I remember that, Chris. You triggered me with that. I remember that. I was I had a good time. I I love playing baseball. Football was hard. Baseball was kinda easy and kinda kinda fun. And so, anyway, good for him. I I don't know why. It's strange to me that people have that kind of budget, and it's also strange that you think maybe that one guy could be as impactful as he could be. But, good good you know, the the rising tide lifts all the boats and fine. Yeah. Well, in MMA news, you know, there's a lot of things going on. Ilha Temporia wants to return in April or May to fight Charles Olivera at lightweight. Mhmm. So he's, you know, not happy to be hanging out as a champion at his weight cla*s. He wants to go up and fight Charles Olivera. I think that's What's he fighting at now? 45. So And wants to go to 55? Let's go to 55. Yeah. So Probably do that. Right? He might be able to. He will have a speed advantage, but I think the Oliveira is so big. Mhmm. And he's older now, but he's still, you know, got what it takes. Mhmm. Saw in that fight, you know, the his last fight, he did just fine. He wasn't you know, he doesn't look any like, he's slowing down that much. Right. He's it looks like he still got it. So it's a big I don't know. This guy, I think it's a newsworthy thing because Ilia Taporia is just got heat under him right now. Mhmm. And he just keeps winning, and his boxing is head and shoulders above what we've seen in normal mixed sports circles. I I'll tell you what. It's because two things that the level of athlete, continues to rise. Guys who would he would have normally been a featherweight boxer Mhmm. You know? And instead, he's come to mixed martial arts. Mhmm. Guys who punched that well Mhmm. Don't normally, they normally stay in their sport. They stay in boxing. Now there's enough money to be made where it's gonna attract, athletes of a higher caliber into the sport. So now you're seeing that break in. Yeah. I have listen. The the skill level going up as we talk about almost every week on this show is is great. This sort of full time dedicated MMA started early athlete. It's a big deal. Listen. I've watched 3 generations of McKees come up. I I wrestled with the older McKee, Antonio McKee, beast of an athlete, like, you know, black guy, Nigerian background, like, weird. Nigerian. Yeah. That's all you need to say. Big hands. Like, way short of me, much bigger hands than me. Uh-huh. You know, very powerful athlete. His son, I threw him out in his underwear into the cold because he was annoying me. He's, like, 7 years old, annoying me on the mat. Mhmm. Now I see another, an another one. Like, a 3 year old McKee, 4 year old McKee doing pull ups on the bar. So now we're having guys who've done it since they were in diapers. Mhmm. You know, break into the normal you know, it's very different than it was in my in my early career where it was an outlier sport where only a few of us did. Now we got generations of fighters coming out. Mhmm. Yeah. Well, again, the skill level's gonna go up. It says the skill level of all the opponents, and then we're really the winner's gonna be the viewer because we're just gonna see these really highly skilled fights. And then the skills like boxing, the guys will get bigger and still possess the skills, whereas the bigger guys, the skill set would fall off once the guy got too big, like in in heavyweight. And then the Klitschkos came around, and they showed that a guy could be big and skillful if he was disciplined. And I think you see that in UFC with the heavyweights as well. This it used to just be big dudes kinda, you know, barrel chested guys, you know. Ever evolving. Yeah. Ever evolving is right. Yeah. Next up, Shavkat apparently had a torn MCL before the Gary fight. So Mhmm. Ian Gary and Shavkat went on, man, a 5 round, like, just a crazy fight. Like, a slobber knocker. They were just going everywhere. And Shavkat, like, pretty much he controlled, like, 3 of the rounds. He like and then it got kinda dice in the in the last couple rounds. Gary started to come back. Won a lot of fans over Mhmm. He and Gary did because even though he lost that fight, he, like, ended up in, like, a rear naked choke position at the end of the fight, had him tied up like a anaconda, like like, this, body triangle position and really, like, look good. And and now they they it's come out that he had a tour in MCL before that fight, and, you know, fight fight and hurt is kind of standard in the industry. But, yeah, he and Gary and Shavka had a really good fight last week. Yeah. What's the fight that's gonna be big tonight? That will be the biggest one, and, I mean, the is the main event. Colby Covington comes back to fight Joaquin Buckley. I mean, I don't know what the odds are. Let me it's just Joaquin is one of those guys on a tear. Has had a, a lot of fights, in a short amount of time Mhmm. And will be favored. He's, number 9, but to Colby's number 6. So, you know, I don't know. I I think that Joaquin will be favored in this matchup. But, again, it, you know, Covington is, one of those guys who are like he has a lot of tools in in his tool belt, but he doesn't always use them. He gets he's one of those wrestlers who has excellent wrestling, but has become, as of late, a kickboxer sort of. So I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Experience. Right? He does. He he's very experienced guy. You know, he was a champion for a good stretch. Great promos. He cuts great promos. He's a really funny, on the mic. And, big big Trump guy too. It's very interesting. Yeah. He's that guy. You know who I'm talking about. Who's the second? Well, they're all turned into big Trump guys now. I know. Yeah. And then Cubs son Swanson versus, Billy Quarantino, that that that's, Quarantino. Yeah. Cubs been around for a while. And Cub. Yeah. And the odds, yeah, odds are odds are against Cub in this fight. Well, Cubs like Cubs gotta be some ears on him. He's got some ears. He's got some ears on him. Yeah. Yeah. He's a tough he's a tough guy. And, again, he has all those tools. But, you know, will he will he slow down in this one? You know, especially, at a featherweight matchup. It's one of those things where your cardiovascular system needs to be all the way up. It favors the younger fighter at that age. Yeah. Oh, man. Who's 3rd? Who's 3rd? The the farther down, you might remember Bruno Silva. He's fighting a guy named, Mano Cape, who I I didn't he's from Angola. Mhmm. And Angola is known to have, like, really good wrestling. Uh-huh. So he might be one of those guys that take him down. Hey. I'm Adam Crowell. That's Brad Williams and Jay Leno. Hey, man, buddy. Over there, we're doing our 3rd annual comedy, Fantasy Camp. That's gonna be January 23rd through 26th, right in Hollywood, California. Where else would it be? These guys are gonna be there. So remember, 2 out of every 3 comments make it big. Or 1a half. Do I get paid for this? Please tell me I get paid for this. Go to comedy fantasy camp dot com and get in on the fun. Hey. It's Adam Kroll from The Adam Kroll Show. BetOnline is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for online betting. From the earliest odds to in game live betting, BetOnline provides you with all the action and the ability to watch and bet on games as they happen with the largest selection of odds on everything from football, NBA, college basketball as well. BetOnline has NHL, MMA, and championship boxing, all your betting needs in one place. Head to BetOnline today to get in on the action with America's most trusted site for online wagering. So have some fun. Make these games and these events and these combat sports a little more interesting with BetOnline. BetOnline, the game starts here. This message comes from BetterHelp. Can you think of a time when you didn't feel like you could be yourself? Like you are hiding behind a mask? BetterHelp online therapy is convenient, flexible, and can help you learn to be your authentic self. So you can stop hiding. Because masks should be for Halloween fun, not for your emotions. Take off the mask with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com/newdirection today to get 10% off your 1st month. That's better help, he l p.com/newdirection. There's no heavyweights on this card, is there? No. Maybe deep down in deep down? In the prelims, yeah. Way down in the prelims, there's no. Not a heavyweight to be found. No. There's a lot of fights these days. I know. Those are, like, 13 fights? Yes. Where's this going down? This will be in, oh, Tampa, Florida. Mhmm. Yes. So they're gonna yeah. They're gonna it's kind of a home bout for Kobe in a way because he's down there in Florida. So Are they are they gonna do a UFC every 2 weeks now? Dude, I'm like, you're running me ragged with this job because I have to pay attention to so many different fighters, so many different cards. So it's just nonstop going, going, going. And, yeah, it's different than back it up day. Like, I remember going to UFC was such a big deal. There hadn't been one in a month and a half. Right. We're all waiting and everybody's getting ready, and we do our best to check the Internet to see how their this guy's camp is going. Now I have the opposite problem. There's a fight every week. There's 10, you know, there's 10 guys I gotta pay attention to. It's just nonstop. It's overwhelming, you know, oversaturated, like, we're you know, there's no, like I don't know. Every once in a while, we all get built up for 1. But look. It took some strange fight like a freak show fight like Mike Tyson, Jake Paul for the whole country to get involved. What's Gone doing, Sarah Gone? Now Gone last week had what happened was a very close fight, but it kinda seemed like he lost the fight. And the the fan or the reporters were kinda arguing that he left the cage right after before the decision was read because he felt like he lost, but he won. And Dana Dana White even told his opponent that you got f**ked over, but Sir Gahan actually had a broken foot that night. Uh-huh. And hot was hobbling out of there because he wanted to get some medical treatment. That's Uh-huh. At least that's what his camp, said to me. So you think he lost that fight? I mean, look. I fighting is art, and art is subjective. And everyone has an opinion, and the people's opinion in the matter are the 3 judges Yeah. Go by kinda loose criteria. Mhmm. Yeah. I think probably, yeah, he lost the fight, but those judges saw something that we didn't. I'll tell you, being really up close, being faced against the cage changes your perspective. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can tell, small subtleties in what's going on by being up close. So that's what I say when people get argumentative about the judging. It's like, alright. Well, I think the person that has the most, like, the best view in the house is the referee. Yeah. He's right there. He can really tell what's going on. But the criteria for MMA judging is a little open to interpretation. Yeah. I mean and look. It's gonna happen with everything all the time, and it happens in boxing. It's gonna happen in MMA. I mean, I guess you could argue that Dana White's seen more combat from a close perspective than most people. And Yeah. If he thinks you got robbed, then I I would I would tend to you know, I would listen to Dana if he thinks you got Rob if he was there and he's seen it been there and done that. But, it it isn't there is no way to quantify it, and it's baked in that it's going to happen. It's almost like the legal system. Like, because sometimes innocent guys are gonna get put away, and sometimes guilty guys are gonna get let go. That's our system. We don't really have another system, and there's no real way to get around it with a robot or a computer. I mean, you could do fight metric stuff and how many headshots are landed, significant body, you know, by or take downs or something, but still still doesn't tell the full story. Well, I mean, they could change, like okay. In Japan, previously, back in the day, there was pride, and they we had a, judge the total of the fight instead of the 10 point must system, which is borrowed from boxing. Yeah. They they recognize that mixed martial arts is of different art form. Uh-huh. And it would be better to judge the fight in its totality at the end of the fight. So I I won fights where, like, it wasn't going really good in the 1st round and then the 2nd round. But in the 3rd round, I came on strong and did all kinds of crazy stuff and showed that fighting spirit and showed the heart, and they gave the win to me. So I I can see it. I I can see it. I think everyone kinda does the totality when they watch at home. They go, I think that guy beat that guy, but not by that much. You know? But they don't necessarily do I mean, the announcers are going the 1st and second round, go to this guy, but this guy got the 3rd round and the 4th round, so the 5th round. But I think when most people watch a fight, they kinda do the totality thing. I think they kinda just go, I think that guy did a little better than that guy. But what we're trying to do is make what is art because we all see it and have our interpretation. I mean, we're trying to make art into a science. Yeah. So you go, oh, points. Points. I like the totalitar I like the totality part better. I I would tend to to do that. Me too. Just have 3 guys watch a fight and go, who do you think won now that we're done? But also another thing that they did in Japan with different rule set was, 5 minute first round, 10 minute second round. Oh. So it made it so that there was no, like because the in in the current state of affairs with mixed martial arts is 5 minute rounds, 5 minute rounds. It's they copied boxing, essentially, with a little extra time put in there for grappling situations. So you get 5 minute around, 5 minute around, 5 minute around, and then championships, 2 more of those same thing. But like I said, back in Japan, there there was a 5 minute round, and they realized, yeah, 15 minutes is about a good tough time to do a fight for anybody. And then so it would be this 10 minute, like, man maker round to see, you know, alright, who is the better fighter here? Mhmm. You know, while in the 5 minute round system, you can kinda, like, do bursts of activity, time it time yourself, and then go, oh, okay. 30 seconds. Let me go hard and win this round. Mhmm. And then I think that's kinda what happened with the game thing where where he showed he showed up in those last 30 seconds enough to make the judges change their mind and then get a 10 instead of a 9. Yeah. I didn't know that about Japan, but that sounds kinda cool. I think so. I think there's room in the market for a new thing. See, everybody that does mixed martial arts promotions, they try to compete directly with the UFC. I think the real win would be to do something that's similar but way different, like, outside of that. And the thing is with athletic commissions, because they have the athletic commission on their side, it might be difficult to get this thing get something different shored up. Mhmm. And a lot of fighters like me, Josh Barnett, we can't we've kinda campaigned for something different for a while now. And, you know, we'll see. The the story is developing. Well, good note to go out on mayhem once again. You said it all. Done it again.

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