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Action park media. I welcome the beginning of the podcast. I'm Kevin Dillon, who since Doug's doesn't know who he is. No, no, no, no, this is not Doug's fault. We're not doing that anymore. You haven't been around for a little while. I think why you can't just I don't think we have to like all, say our names opening every show. Why not? I mean, I guess we could it Dylan's. You guys can't change things without talking to me. The way Dylan came in there was amazing, by the way, because he really didn't even. I thought you forgot or something. He did give us a look like, What is wrong with you? What are you doing? What is wrong? You know who you are? So Connelly thinks I like the well-enough known that we don't need to. No, I mean, not everyone. I don't think I have an entourage that listen to this. Yeah. I don't. Right. All right. Maybe we take a look. I'm sorry. Say said performance. I'm going to say no. You're not allowed. All right. Let's start over again. Start over. Welcome to Victory, the podcast. Douglas Reid, Ellen, Kevin Brady. What are you doing? Have time stepping on my toes. Hey, I go away for a week and you guys like Go three. This is Douglas Reed Ellen with victory. The podcast Kevin Brady Dillon and I'm Kevin Connolly. What's your middle name? Thomas NYTimes.com. What do you guys? Don't be embarrassed, Tommy. Great. Kevin Thomas got Thomas. Got a great rating. All right. So we keep the names. Clearly, we're keeping the names. All right. So Kevin Dillon's back, he hasn't been around for a while because the guy is, Am I wrong, Dylan? You've done more movies this year than any year in the last year on a time in my life. So this is a big year and I got nothing in the beginning because of COVID. So it's been like. And do you think the podcast has anything to do with that? No, no. I think it's purely my acting skills are getting me all these very long resonate. I hope everyone gets to watch this on YouTube, and I hope his camera angle is good. I don't see a camera, don't. He's so f**king funny. I mean, even when I'm mad at him that he leaves us for weeks at a time, I still can't. I can't hold a grudge because he's so funny and I'm an actor, but I do all I get. How many times a week do you get, Kevin? Dylan must be the greatest guy on the planet Earth. I want to just have a drink or so sour and jealous. Let's it all I am, but I'm willing to admit I'm Sharon Jones on Instagram. Well, on your Instagram, this is on the Hollywood Ways account. Nobody ever accused you of being so sweet. Nice. You never say they never say it's true. You're wonder why so many great guests today, Jamie Lynn, he was coming up and that's going to be fun. Who's a friend? And was a 13 episode arc on the show, which I got questions. All right, good. I'm excited for that. So but let's talk to Kevin Dillon. You just were on this. You were on a movie that they shot fast. How was that seven days, bro? It was rough. That's nuts. So you shot a movie in seven days, and I am No. One on the call sheet. I know that's because you sent me. I had a Kevin Connolly because he's rubbed it in my face for many, many years that he was number one on the call. Kyle, you ever been number one on the call sheet besides outright? Yeah, no. Yeah, of course. But maybe a big wheel commercial? Not sure. I've been number one in the culture. Lots of top guys on fire. I mean, it's good to have, you know, how's my about the fact that I had Mel Gibson in the movie and I was still number one on the call sheet was kind of cool. How does he gave you that? Well, yeah, he did. But I was the lead. I mean, there's no way around it. OK, you're the lead. But manager Mel has to say, Kevin can have that. That's fine, right? I mean, I'm asking you guys question, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Like, is that an agent negotiating thing? Or How have you work three days? I work seven and I worked every day, and that's why that's why you're number one on the call sheet. And also we joke around. But that's why I was number one on the call sheet on Entourage. Because I did. I worked the most days in the pilot. It's a computer program, so whoever works the most gets that number because you work more than him now. They probably had to clear it with, I'm like, You cool with this, right? You know what? I get Mel angry. By the way, Bell doesn't care. I also noticed that they used your initials so as code. And yes, maybe that had. Yeah, he goes, Well, all right. I'll let him be number one on the call sheet, but just put our initials up there, right? So whoever I did think about that to everyone else had their phone. Did you have some scenes with Mel? Yeah. How how did that scene? Great. And you so you're doing like an again for everyone is listening out there who's not in the entertainment business. Three and a half pages a day is a lot for a real movie. Studio movie is probably three and a half for Entourage because of the way we shot we we sometimes did seven to nine pages, which is really a lot. But that was that was a big deal to do. That was tight. But when you bring a movie star on Mel Gibson, Kevin Dillon and you say, here's 16 pages for the day, that that's a lot. So do there is. I did two paid two days of twenty plus pages, so in two days in a row we did. We did 42 pages of dialogue with two actors involved. It was tough, man. It really what's kind of shocking for me if I I'm telling you right now if I who we're going to talk to Jamie Lynn a little bit about how we were all friends on the show, which whether that was a mistake or not, which David Chase was a little more standoffish. But you would have killed me if I handed you 20 pages and said, this is tomorrow, you would kill me. Yeah, I would have been I would have been pretty shocked by that, but I knew going into this, it was going to be tough, right? You got to know. I knew going in. I still didn't expect like a 22 page day. That's when I saw that and I started flipping through the script. I went, Oh my god, I really almost had a panic. I'm sure. I'm sure. So are you in the hotel room? I did my homework. I just worked really hard. So like, but you're finishing, what, 14 hour day? I mean, no, no. Actually, they weren't. They weren't that bad. The days weren't that bad. I didn't get force called at all. Minimal takes. What they did was they would run scenes together. So which is tricky because you learn them to be separate and they just kept the camera running and they would do four scenes in a row together. Oh my god, it was for three guys. It was so hard I would be looking at my words and going there, ruining my words. What the f**k is happening right now? The crazy part is like, that's kind of where movies are going. I mean, seven is extreme, but you know, the year, well, the director was great, too. Jane Bruce James, who's great and yeah, he was such amazing young director, 29 years old. He's really cool. I'm going to get him on the podcast. All right. All right. So but when you're getting off the set, like to talk to a director that can shoot 22 pages in a day. Dude, he's amazing. This guy is really in his direction. Was real good. But when you getting off the set after a long day, whatever it was, even if it was 12 hours, are you going right to your room and going? I got to learn tomorrow. I got to work on this. And by yourself, I would still go out to dinner every night. You still to watch the berries. I would have a couple of beers and then go to sleep, but no more than two, right? So Mel to I had dinner with Mel every night. He's great. What are the chances of getting Mel on the podcast? I don't know if he would do it. I don't know if you noticed the private guys is not, yeah, it's gone on to say he's got a lot to say, brah. He is super smart. You don't want that. I could. I could try. I mean, I'll try a long shot. I ask him. The worst thing he says is go, f**k. Yeah, yeah. So some people go, I don't do podcasts, right? And I can't be nasty, right? Because it's, you know, not your friends. Yeah, she's going to say, Just don't tell them I'm on the podcast. I'm just. All right. Well, bygones, be bygones. So. All right. Well, you're back. We're excited. We're going live to Long Island on November 20. Are you nervous? Because Connolly and I are actually we're trying to structure it out almost like, like a theatrical play where you're really doing most of the work. What do you think of that? I don't like that too much. We're not doing that. We're going have a little structure to it. But by the way, you are, I kind of like just, you know, just going out there free and just having fun. But whatever you guys want to do, you know, I just think we got to have a little more structure for a 12 000 seat arena, right? What was your thought when I sent you that text message about those shows getting canceled for Chester? I was little. I was a little surprised by that. I thought it's too early and nobody buys tickets that far in advance. Gary Clark Jr. sold out. The thing is, the thing is, it's that it's just, like I said, it's hard to promote one show. Yeah. Promoting that through promoting three shows. Yeah. I mean, the only one we did we had promoted was Long Island. So of course, the other one. Look, the reality is and we're all we're all modest, self-deprecating guys, despite what anybody might say about us. The truth is, we have a very successful podcast at the same time. It's you need millions of people to go, just waltz out and sell out four thousand tickets in a week. And it's very it's not that easy. And it's yeah, it's a big conversion. Even by the way, the amount of people who love entourage, that's still on what used to be my when my Instagram was around, that would say, Oh man, I'm obsessed with entourage. And I would say, How about the podcast? And they say, Oh, I haven't had a chance yet. So even like my followers and your followers, it takes time to get them to go. What is a podcast and then what is alive? But that's that's to me, the tricky thing. Like, what is a live podcast, right? Like, I don't, I don't know. You know, I love it. But what we're going to do just so everyone knows and hopefully you will come. We are going to have a great time. We're going to talk about a lot of stuff that we talk about on the podcast, but new things that we're going to shed light on and our relationships and things that behind the scenes that have happened in some of our our fights, in some of our greatest clips. It's going to be a lot of fun. Time is going to fly by and that will be that will be part. Yeah. So, all right, we're going to have Jamie Lynn Siegler on. But before that, I just I need you guys to know because I need you to tell me I'm going under the knife again tonight. Well, today, yeah, because I saw pictures of you at an event the other day and I thought your hair looked pretty f**king awesome. Oh yeah, yeah. So, so by the way, so a couple of things there I was at Forest Whitaker's charity event. You know, forest? Yeah, no farmer. I mean, well, bro. Yeah, I mean, forest, 30 years way back. Forest Whitaker, Academy Award winner and one of my favorite movies, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, among obviously a million other things he's done. But we went last year to Scotland last King of Scotland, of course, but colored money, he was. Wow, that's that's a good call. Yeah, I mean, Forest is amazing, but his charity is incredible forest like, you know, I mean, you met him one. I took a picture with Forest Whitaker. We'll call him sir. Forest Whitaker. Yes, sir. I got a picture with him and I did say, Hey, Forest, you know, I don't take a lot of pictures with that hat on. So maybe you'd do me the honor of taking the picture. And he was like, What are you saying to me? Like, what's happened down like this? I try to tell. I honestly, I try to engage with far as the little. I don't think he was that interested in me as my story overwhelm that says advanced is like going on. And by the way, the the charity, which everyone should just look up, is incredible. And I'm not trying to sell people on to pressing issues, but he does this charity that goes to conflict zones all over the world and helps kids from child soldiers and and really helps them get their lives better and helps make peace in those areas. It's incredible, and I feel like none of us are doing anything. We did our Movember, which Movember is here. We do November. Yeah, you know, we got to do something. Well, here's the thing we got. It's going to grow mustaches again. Yeah, the problem is like, I don't I don't have the bandwidth to push anymore, but push him for long hours like, oh, by the way, donate money to my mustache, by the way, and then make you long hours. There's no the Connolly. He's a little beaten. When I walked in this morning, he just I'm like, You're right, he's like, I just, I just want to. I just want to sell everything. I just want to sell everything. So I'm feeling a tremendous amount of pressure. So but Connolly is going to deliver and really, you know, Dylan, who doesn't seem to feel any pressure is going to deliver as well. So come to that. But anyway, I'm going under the knife, so I just want you guys to know if anything happens to me. I want you to tell people, What are you trying to tell us what you're doing? Because what do you mean under the knife? Connolly was asking you about the hair, which Dr. Ziering did, which is, um, eight months in, and it really is. It's what you get to get a facelift now. I mean, what is going on here? You get a tummy tuck done. What are you doing over that? Implants? He's a mechanic. Asked how the hair was and there were people at the charity event who listen to the podcast and good hair. No, they were like, Oh my God, the hair's amazing now racer who does all of our hair and did the show's hair. She does my hair. She adds a little bit of magic again. My hair is not magic. You mean like little powder, little powder powder. So it's basically these black fibers that when your hair's a little thin, they go in and maybe saw Rudolph Giuliani sweaty, sweating it off and stuff like that. Yeah, but I'm nowhere near Rudolph Giuliani, so I'm telling you so these these fibers, they go in and they stop light from hitting your head. So basically what? They don't see the space between the hair? Yes. You don't see it even if you have any. And again, could you do a decent cause eight months? I know there's it's definitely working a little bit. We know it's working without that stuff. I can do it. You could pull it off, right? I could pull it off much better than 90 percent of humanity, and people would not say anything but your own insecurities they lead. When a light hits you hard, all of a sudden you see a little charity. Events have like hot lights, you know, you step through the wrong spot and fast like Jesus Christ, this guy lets you know, he said. Because I did. I spent a lot of time at this charity event. I'm not joking, talking to men who were asking me about the hair and they were all going to your hair's f**king amazing. It's my hair. You look like that, and I should just say thank you. But I do say I had a little help, but my hair is seriously better because it's fine. You didn't have help, but you had a hair person. Do your hair. I had a hair person on my head. Anyway, what I'm saying is after 12 months when this thing is fully in and then what I'm doing today is it's basically like, it's like a tattoo on my head that just darkens my scalp a little bit, OK? It's like there's no knife involved in it, but it's like one of those laser guns, like you're getting a tattoo on your head, I guess. Sort of, yeah, like a temperature called like tattoo is a needle. So you get, is that what it is? Like a needle? You know, I don't ask too many questions just because I just want my f**king hair back. I'll do anything it's going to do. It's going to do that thing, and it's going to put it on your head. So that will be in place of the dust that would be blocked as a light powder light. Yeah, I'm hoping no more powder. But Ray, so who does my hair all the time? She freaked out and she said, It's great. She's telling all her clients and I'm not trying to sell anything about doctors. Ziering, you can call him, or you can call someone in your local area. But I'm telling you for all the men that are embarrassed about this. Which also was the thing I was going to talk about. Most people don't give a s**t. Most people aren't looking at other people's heads and going, but when you have it, which Kylie doesn't know so we can not relate to this got a thick, has got a thicker, but he's young too. It's still 45. Just wait, give him. Give me another 10. You know, you're saying like when you if you feel insecure about something, then you're insecure about it. It's really about your own. It really does not matter what anybody says to me and even the slightest amount of light when I see that weakness between a hair thing, I f**king lose my mind. It's like the sun breaking through a windows like one, like a light beam ripping through your head when really nobody else is blinded by his baldness. And I can tell you, I would not have walked up to Forest Whitaker as confidently as I did if I had a baseball hat on at this event and felt like I'm f**king hiding. So, hey, Forrest loves you in fast times. You know, I'm a good buddy of Cadillac, so I did say I threw out a couple of things because I was trying to get them for the podcast and I was like, Listen, first, I don't wanna be. I want to be too much. You really make a run at them 100 per cent. And I think he looked at me like I was out of my mind. But I said, which is what I did with Matt Damon when we got him on Entourage. I said, first, we'll talk about your charity the entire time. It doesn't matter to me and I would, because this charity is amazing and he's amazing. So anyway, we got another amazing person coming on right now. Unless you have something I want to say, what's the recovery like? Are you going to be in pain and grouchy tonight? I certainly hope not, because I got a lot of stuff going on this week, so I have no plans. You didn't ask. I mean, is it like, are you? I didn't ask anything. But are you back with the hat for the sended period of time? Or are you just told me there was something else I could do that would help you, like, say no more. I will be there. Yeah, I will go through whatever I have to take. You know, I have I really do have meetings and a dinner tomorrow and a lot of s**t going on. But staying in my head, I'll do it. Everything. I've got curious about this than I was about the first run. Yeah, I've never even heard of this. I'm just curious as to what a dude I got to imagine. You're going to have a bit of a headache. You're going to be a little that's kind of what you're going to. Maybe, maybe even any tattoo hurts. That's what I'm saying. I mean, you guys, you guys see what happens when you're old and gray and you got like black underneath your gray hair. Well, that's weird. How long does it last? I don't. I mean, it's going to make my my scalp a little darker. It kind of makes it look like you have stubble a little bit. So it just feels it. And I don't f**king know. Listen, I'm curious is how please keep I have to edibles in my pocket. I'm going to eat them, and I'm going to let Dr. Ziering work his magic. And I don't get a s**t what he does to give me my f**king hair back. It's all I want. Dr. Ziering and again, Doug, you and I have been talking about this forever because I know that you're not selling for yeah, for now. No, you just if you believe in it or you like it, you talk about it. Yes. Has Dr. Ziering said to I gotta tell you, man, I appreciate it. Yes. Yes, yes, he has. Yes, I mean, Dawson, I've set at least 15 people to go to. All of them so far are happy as hell. Nobody's had any weird to imagine his head tattoos on the arm. So he was he was yelling at me. He was. I would expect that to be. This one is on and Dr. Ziering. Did he did he did give me the the laser cap, so that's a real gem. It's called the laser cap. Yeah, I wear it every day. Do you still laser OK? Oh yeah, OK, so you're still doing everything that you need to do your smart, Oh, I'll do this for the rest of my life. Like and by the way, I saw. But you explain the laser cap you. I put something on your head kind of like, have you seen back to the future? Yes, I remember Christopher Lloyd where that s**t on its head very similar to killing. You know what the bike helmets look like, like cyclist helmets. It's like that. But like rats shoot lasers at, you know, and that helps your hair grow up like a leaf is really good. Last time I'm going to say it, I saw it because it was my eight month checkup the other day and I saw which I wasn't even, you know, like coming was like, Your hair's not that bad. But when you get fully under a light, which is what they do at the office to really show you how before, after show you how bad you really are. I was f**king miserable all that first day, that first time. Well, not the first time. Not seeing it now. Even eight months ago, I was like, I can't believe that. So you're so you saw the before and after and you've got a lot of growth. It's amazing game change. I wish I knew about it early. You know, I learned about this from Connolly on this podcast because I didn't know about it. He said he outed some people, which I don't know. I had a buddy that I said the same thing about Dr. Ziering. He was so happy with Dr. Ziering that you would think he worked for Dr. Ziering. He would stand on the corner and hand out flyers. But you also said that Tom Brady did it, which I still don't know if that's true. No, I just saw that that that's just like internet memes. I don't know. All I could tell you, I didn't know. Every time Brady takes his helmet off for the games, I get really upset I would rather his hair than his Super Bowl wins. I'm not kidding. True story. You might have that. I'm hoping you're going to have my hair. Well, I thought you meant the Super Bowl rings. All right. We'll be back with Jamie Lynn Siegler. Welcome back, Victor, the podcast and I'm excited. One of our special guests. Yeah, one of our favorite guests to be on is that we all became friends with and that I don't know. Jamie Lynn Sigler was supposed to do one episode and then somehow did like, I don't even know, 20 30. I just got so lucky. You just kept letting me hang around. Yeah, 13 episode she did 30. Well, we got lucky. But what's going on, Jamie? How are you? I'm great. I'm I'm living in Austin, Texas. You fled Hollywood. I love. I fled the part of the mess, Texas. A lot of people left for that's the new Hollywood. And how is it going there? You know, it's pretty. I mean, my kids love it. We actually have so much more space, so much more land. And we moved here with a lot of friends, so we kind of cheated, you know, like we moved with the community. So it wasn't as hard as maybe a normal move can be. But I don't know. It's different. It's it's cool. It's an adventure. I think after COVID, like a lot of people and you know, we were kind of reevaluating our lives and what made us happy and wanted a change. Well, L.A. is a mess, for sure. So it feels like it's just mismanaged right now. You know, maybe we should do a community move. The three of us move together to Boston. You guys go, I'll catch up. I'll catch up with people who meet us there. I'll catch up with Jamie would lose her mind if Kevin Dillon moved in next door to her. You wouldn't do it in a good way. How many acres do you have? Maybe I could just move, you know, 'cause we live on a golf course. Oh my god, I'm there. OK, how excited is coming over after school? We'll put my older one in the in the cart and we go and we play almost every day. That's awesome. I didn't know you played. Are you good? I mean, no, but it's by no means. Be amazing if Jamie. Good luck, Derek. The two. Kevin's of Jamie out. Jamie, I have a question. How? How is for so many years, right? As a, you know, as an actor, you have to be in New York or L.A., right? So how has it affected, if at all? And what is the process like with in terms of your acting career meetings? Yeah. How does that work? Well, you know, other than entourage and like one other show that I did a season of, I really didn't work in L.A. that much. I was always in Vancouver or Atlanta, right? So I think and also to, you know, I'm sure you relate to this. Like, I always thought, Oh, when I get to a certain level of my career, I'll move somewhere remote and just pop in for work. And I think I got to this point where I was like, What the f**k am I waiting for? Like, I just I want to do it now. And as soon as I moved here, I'm working in New Mexico right now. I was just there. Oh, where you were? Yeah, I was in Los Crucis. Oh, we're in Albuquerque. And what are you working on on a show called Big Sky on ABC? Oh yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. So I've been working there for the past couple of months and it's like, you know, it's an hour and a half flight from here. It's not bad, but I don't know, you know, as an actor, you always have to be ready to possibly move like your life. So I think just knowing that we were always going to maybe have to do that anyway, we would rather have our home base be somewhere that we both wanted. And it really it really is true. I mean, when you think about it, aside from Entourage, 90 percent of acting jobs are somewhere else anyway. Yeah, yeah. So it's a question of getting the job. So is it Zoom calls self tapes that that does that the job? Yeah. Well, when I was when I was still living in L.A. last year, I booked a pilot off Zoom, right? So yeah, I mean, everything really not doing that much. Testing in person, still, it's still mostly Zoom stuff. There's no reason for it, I guess I like to see the people live, but no, I mean, I do. I think when you get down to the wire, maybe I do miss like being in a room with a director and like getting, you know, there's there's something about, you know, that vibe. But I mean, I guess you can kind of feel it over Zoom. I don't know. Well, the good thing is that you could work it until you're happy. You know, you could do the tape and just do it 20 times. And still, you love it. I agree. My husband and I are like on the brink of divorce every time he tries to help me do it. So. Oh, by the way, join the club and join the club. I mean, Jamie, my girlfriend's an actor as well, and there's nothing worse. First of all. I mean, she asked me to help. She asked for an opinion, and as soon as I give it to her, she basically tells me to like, f**k off. So it's gone. Yeah, I mean, we've had 10 fights. I don't want to do this anymore. Like, I mean, it's it's just and it's like, look at me, are you asking for my help? Are you asking for my opinion? Or am I just a camera guy because I can be the camera? But if you're asking my opinion, don't get mad if I give it. Right? We could do, but I said, You don't even need a camera. Everybody says the same thing. I don't want to be a tripod. It's bad for relationships. You're also doing podcasting, though, Jimmy, you're trying to take us down, so how's that going? You enjoying it, right? Yeah. Well, I started doing this podcast called Mama said a couple of years ago, which was like about parenting after I had my second son. You know, just talking about like, real honest, you know, honesty about parenting and how it's amazing and it goes without said, you love your kids, but it's really f**king hard. There's times. It's not the best. You know, now he's six weeks in college and it's not six months, but it's it's challenging. It's all those things. It's amazing. But there are. It does come with. I have my 18 year old home who's not supposed to be home, and that's how I became an empty nester. And then I'm right back here just when I thought I was out. So it's it's tough. So 18. But hopefully Kylie will listen to your podcast so you can get some advice on it, but I'm here for you whatever you nag you. So, Jamie, let's just go back a little bit, though. So I mean, obviously, you know you were on to iconic HBO show. That's right. He said it. Iconic? Yes. You know, it's one to no one can decide whether it's sopranos or anyone else. But so obviously, I think maybe the three of us, it's my favorite show of all time. Me too. And I don't know if Dylan's ever seen it to be, of course, ever paid for. I love Sopranos. So can you I know you've talked about it a lot, but tell us for our listeners, how did that all come about when you were a kid? Yeah, when I was a kid. Yeah, well, you. I mean, you were a kid when you got on Sopranos. How did that? Yeah. OK, so I grew up on Long Island. Yeah. You doing musical theater like all I had, like connections, work was like community theater. So it was like the Plaza Playhouse and Old Bethpage, you know, and like, if you really made it like you could do, like grey wig at Hofstra. So I was like in all the productions of Annie and Fiddler on the Roof and everything that I could do as a kid because I really loved it. And then as I got older, like I found an agent, I got started doing some summer stock, some little things here and there, got a manager every once in a while would get to take the, you know, the Long Island Railroad to the city to go in like an open call audition. But, you know, pretty. I still was in public school and Jericho and living a pretty normal life. And then when I was around 16, I remember getting super frustrated because there weren't many teenage roles in musical theater. I wasn't like getting to do anything, so I wanted to go to sleep, wake him up like every other kid. Finally, like, I never got to go. I was going to be a city at Camp Pontiac. I went to Pontiac. You decided I didn't know how to go. Yeah, my nephew and my niece go there now anyway. So, yeah, the I was like ready to go and I got a call from my manager being like, There's this show on HBO. And at the time, HBO was the movie channel, right? Like, other than maybe they had like that show dream on? Do you remember that? I do remember that show. Yeah, maybe even Arliss. But at that point there was movies that passed me, but it felt like these like quirky comedies like Not Really Anything Else. And so it was a show called The Sopranos. They're looking for a 16 year old Italian looking like New York, New Jersey girl. That was it. That's the only information I got. I got. Besides it was the scene from the pilot where Carmela and Meadow are arguing, where Meadow wants to go to Aspen with her friend Hunter, and she was going to let her go. So because of the title, I've said this a hundred times. Apologies, you heard it, but I assumed it was musical. That would make sense. I mean, that's not that crazy. So my first audition was we went to the city was just what George and walk in and Sheila Jaffe and I read my scene. Obviously, you guys know she dressed and then went home to my answering machine. This is taking how far it's back, where there was a message from my manager. You need to go back again tomorrow because the creator would like to watch, you read. So this was for David Chase. And so I went and did the same thing again, and I honestly really wanted to go to camp and I didn't give up like I didn't give a f**k about jobs, jobs. That's how Dylan got this podcast. So I got an entourage. I mean, I do have an attitude, but I was just kind of like, All right, I had a fight with my mom. This, you know, and and then I was called back again. And then now I started getting like a little attach. I I'd never gotten close to anything like this in my life. And then screen test at HBO and got the part, unpacked my bags and stayed home and shot the pilot. And when you got it, did you feel I mean, I don't know if you were doing any scenes with with James or had you been OK. So but from just reading the script, did you feel like there's something? Whoa, this is kind of special or what? No. I mean, I knew it was cool. I knew my friends would think it was cool, but I was in like a mafia show like, you know, like, you're you're 15, 16 at that time. Like, these are the things that you care about. I hadn't really like been exposed to anything like Judd. Are they against. Right? But I remember when I got to the read through, you know, sitting down and seeing Jim and Lorraine and all these people like, oh, like there's some like big time people here like I recognize all those people. They weren't household names yet, but you're like, I've seen these people in movies and things, but it's still it's still felt like this isn't going to be anything because honestly, that was the attitude in general. I think David Chase, you know, it's kind of who he is, where he was like, nobody's going to ever want this. Like, don't expect anything kind of attitude, but I never expected to be part of something like that. I was a kid from Long Island. I was like, Lucky, maybe if I would be in the chorus on Broadway, like that was my dream. Like, I didn't think I'd ever be a part of anything like that. So honestly, until our first trip to the Emmys. It it, it never like it didn't click that I was part of something like that. And how much did life change? So are you still in high school when this is airing? Yes, yes. So my senior year of high school and the first the first season started airing and then were you being tutored? Were you being tutored on the set? No. SATs, yeah. Yeah, they had a tutor. As my senior year, I was kind of an a*****e like I would. I like barely did my work. I was already have gotten into college, so, you know, I wasn't. I was kind of cheating, but my mom had to be on set with me because I wasn't 18 yet, you know, all that kind of stuff. But then I don't know. I mean, it was little things here and there. Like, I moved into the dorms in NYU and was like walking around my first day introducing and like the guy next to me in his room had a Sopranos poster and I was like, Wait a minute, you know, like, there were little things that slowly would happen where felt like life was a little bit different. But one of the cool things about Sopranos was it was really everybody's job, and then they went home. There really wasn't much Hollywood ness about it, but you know, there was no social media. Then there was barely paparazzi. Then it was a different time than to. And just these were all like Super New York actors like nobody was hanging out really after like this was their day job, and then they had their life when they went home. And I kind of took that cue. And I mean, other than, you know, getting to like, cut the lines at clubs and things like that, nothing really felt different until I moved to L.A., I guess. Yeah. Even your high school kids, not everybody had HBO back then, even though it was a huge show, it still was the HBO market itself. You talk about, yeah, you don't really care, like, all right, I'm going to go in and do it and then go to camp. At what point is it your managers or your agents that are like, Jamie, you've got to start locking in. This is the real deal. Was it them that was selling it to you? Is, Hey, keep your eye, keep your eye on the ball here. This is this is big. How how I think it was. I think it was everybody. I think it's like when you feel that momentum, when you're like, they want you back, they want you back, and then there's more and more people in the room. Each time you go and there's less and less people in the waiting room, when you go like you feel you feel like, Oh, I'm this is a possibility. Like, I, you start caring a little bit more. I remember, like the week before my screen test, they told me, Oh, it's too tan. So I had to like, I was like putting like all over my face trying to like, lighten it up, like wearing long sleeves like I started to really care. And of course, by the screen test, it was just me and another girl and I wanted it. Do you remember the call when you got it? Yes, I was in my mother's bathroom like, I don't know, doing my hair or something, and she just ran in. She had my manager at the time on the phone, and I just I couldn't believe it. Again, I never thought anything like that would happen to me. And what was it like working with David Chase? I mean, you hear these things that he's just kind of a quiet guy and kind of keeps to himself. Yeah. And we have dug a hard time, obviously for lots, but I don't keep to myself by Doug Douglas. Doug was always, you know, available like for better or worse. You know, Doug Doug at many times said if this was on The Sopranos, you would be dead to kill me. What was it like? I have to say that, though, because Entourage was the first show I worked on. I will answer your question, but first show I worked on after Sopranos and I remember saying, like to Jerry like, Oh my gosh, you guys have like a real relationship with Doug. This is awesome. So Doug, I want to give you credit because I think that that I really enjoyed that. I thought it was really special that you were always there to, like, hear your actors and talk. I don't know how the conversation would turn out in the end, but like, you always made yourself available and I really appreciated that. But for better or worse, is always there. I mean, it's not always going to work. I believe that was a big part of the success of the show was Doug's sort of availability with the actors, but enough pumping Doug's there. Let's talk about the real mystery. Your David Chase, David. I mean, Davis, just like, you know, it's like he almost shot. Doesn't have time for bulls**t. Do you know what I mean? Like, there's no time too much time. Why are we going to waste our time to like, say anything to you? But when he when he did, when he did say something, it mattered. And every once in a while now I'm talking maybe five, maybe six times throughout the entire series. I would get a phone call to tell me that I was, that I did a nice job and a scene or an episode or something. And that like meant the world. I mean, it was everything. You know, he he wasn't down on the set. A lot of the time he was, you know, up in his office and that was his process. And that's who he is like. He's he's just he he wasn't that guy. And, you know, for that reason, me being like the only young girl on the set and, you know, at super insecure, especially like at the time of a girl's life when she is like, I always just assumed he hated me. Like, I just I feel like everybody says s**t. I feel like everybody says that they felt like I feel like he's smarter, though, because he was withholding love from you guys. And then you get praise. Like, I had a call Carly every night and tell him how great he was showing up every day. But was he just kind of shy? Jamie, is that it? Or just like, I just don't have time to sit around and shoot the s**t about the game last night with the guys? That's more. I just don't think that's who he is. I mean, like, I've I've seen him laugh. I've seen him have like, he has friends, he has emotions, he laughs. He has friends. That's amazing. You should, Tracy. Maybe I could get a friends. And then, Jamie, you hear the stories about, you know, obviously it's a mob show. People inevitably are going to get knocked off. Obviously, I don't think it was a worry for you. But how was it for a lot of the cast members? How did that? How does it go down? When, how do you notify Kastner that, hey, listen, you may want to do a shot of vodka before you read this next story? Yeah, there was there is a phone call it's made prior that he makes like the grim reaper type call. But God, I'm not sure. I think I think certain characters could feel things coming. I mean, I remember Serpico was always freaking out. Always, always, always. You know, I do remember one time we so we were supposed to finish, I think, on season six. And then they all called us into a room to say, OK, we're going to do like a season six A. And be like, I don't know how. Oh, yeah, we did that on Entourage as well. Yeah, OK. So they call call the star room to tell us that as if, like, we were going to need any convincing. But there was somebody in that room that. Shouldn't have been, and I do remember hearing that David was super pissed. Who dropped the ball because that person was supposed to be killed off and was in the room like, you know, to me, mean, so what's he doing here? What's he doing here? This story probably was it, though. Now, Federico, I don't know if it wasn't Federico. I actually don't even know if this person was killed off. I haven't watched the whole thing. You have not watched the whole show yet. I just started watching it for the first time in quarantine. I've made it to season five. You know, I think it's a lot of reasons. I think personally, because of Jim, like I was going to feel like I was never really hard time watching him. And when I was younger, when it was airing, I'm so self-critical. I just I felt like I'm not going to enjoy it. Everybody loves the show so much. I need to find a time when I'm going to be able to have enough time past that. I can step away and not dissect my performance and actually enjoy. It's like Connolly's the same way. I'm the same way people not watching. I just now am able to watch episodes of Entourage and enjoy really and step back because I was always the same way. It just wasn't doing me any and every premiere he would be in the bar. Yeah, he did not. The minute the lights went down I was, I was out the door. So I hear, you know that. So but Jamie now watching it because it's interesting for me, like because of this podcast, I haven't watched Entourage in years and now going back, I can watch it almost like I wasn't involved. So when you're watching this show, which again, I think is one of the great shows in the history of TV, I mean, Sopranos in the Wire, but probably the two. But how does it play? How has it been playing to you when you were in quarantine? Oh, I like, I love it. I remember it being like, I get it, I get it. I get why people loved the show. I really have been able to just enjoy it as an audience member. And I mean, the performances. I mean, I was right there. I knew how amazing everybody was, but it's not. You forget so much that I it's feels like I'm watching it and learning about everything for the first time and appreciating everybody on an even deeper level than I already did. And Jamie, as you know, like Long Island, the show takes place in Jersey. But we know my neighborhood certainly was a lot of mobsters and a lot of this. And that's why the show was so incredibly realistic. And I knew girls who were essentially a version of you in high school. Wow. And it brings me to arbitrage because I don't remember one hundred percent how it came about, but I do think it was my idea we were looking for who would be a good relationship for Turtle. And I was like, I don't remember if it was because of the Rob Camil Letty thing who dated share. He was like the bagel guy, but I was like the assistants or the guys that are hanging out in the crew. They sometimes all of a sudden end up with a beautiful celebrity girl all the time. But Kendra Bullock dated like a key grip for one of her movies for years, yet happened. I didn't know that Julia Roberts Julia Roberts married a camera from Harvard, married the camera. He's now a camera operator. No longer. He is a director of photography now. Yeah, he was going places, right? But but Jamie, I don't know if we ever spoke about this, but the fight that went on in the writers room, I don't know what the animosity was and I won't throw out. I know these guys have a lot of animosity towards each other anyway. Nothing, nothing to do with me. I said, I said, What if we got Jamie? Let's see, let's do this. Was and I remember some turtle could never get her. All right. It was Weiss. It was one. Let's be real. No wasteful cop Jerry Rice. I got it. And I was like, and I actually thought that, no, this is exactly what would be great. This was exactly would be this great chemistry. And I'm just trying to remember. So maybe you could fill in some of those details when we came to you and said, we want you to because it's always awkward when someone wants you to play themself. Well, that's what I was going to ask you. Do you have any hang ups about yourself playing yourself? No, because I didn't feel like I was like, I was playing like this character of who you guys created me to be. And that was so fun. And honestly, I'm so grateful for the experience for so many reasons. But one in particular, you know, like leaving sopranos, you're kind of had that double edged sword, right? Like, when am I not going to be better? When am I? When are people going to be able to see me as something different? So to like, be on the same channel, you know, with a lot of probably the same audience and take this like baby step away from Meadow, we're like, Yeah, we still talk about her. She's real. It exists. But this is Jamie, the girl that played her. It was a really amazing gift. You gave me too like transition out of that and for like people to kind of accept me as something else. Dylan still waiting for a gift. I've climbed out of it. Connelly, you better get out of your hole. I quit acting a long time ago, but it was. It was just like the cool. And I was such. I mean, Entourage was my favorite show and I anytime we were at any of the HBO parties, Doug, I mean, like, I feel like I would always be like, Please, I wanted to be on the show like, totally lame. Probably like every. So maybe that's how it happened, though maybe that's what happened. And but I don't think the HBO wanted me to until Sopranos was done. But yeah, you and I had a phone conversation where you kind of explained the episode and you're like, All right. Bear with me, but like, you're a jerk to hop on a plane. And then I think at the time he was like. And you get super pissed. And I think maybe we were we were talking about me, like breaking a window in his car or something. It was supposed to be like one off, like I was a crazy b***h, right? And then I then, yeah, and then I remember you saying, like, do you want to hang around for a couple of more? And then it turned into, yeah, the theme that I got to do. Now I just want to because the world is so f**king crazy now. I just want to make sure everyone knows that you explain how, how obviously embarrassed I was to have that conversation with you. And it wasn't like you said so and you were so great and made it made it easy. But I do remember it's just like there was a natural chemistry with you and all of us, you know, and it just became instantly. We were friends, and obviously you and Jerry got along. So, you know, those are to me like, it's so hard for me because that's how I've always like to work. It's hard for me to imagine those sets like you're talking about with The Sopranos, where there's not like everybody's kind of best friends, even though people are probably talking s**t about some people behind their back and maybe me. But whatever, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, Yes, it really helped entourage, I think for sure. People ask me still to this day, like, what was it like to work on Entourage? And I'll say, as funny as you had watching, it was as fun as it was to make it truly like, you guys, first of all, were so welcoming to me, which meant the world has. It's it's it's you still nervous, like step on to somebody else's set like, but so established and you guys you did. You had a great time. I mean, you were like throwing the football between takes. I was never everything was steady cam. It was quick. It was easy. It was fun. It was L.A. It was. That was the LA's heyday, too. Like, that was the time like the vibe of this show was what L.A. was. I had just moved there. It's like what it felt like. Yeah, it would be a different world now. And the Earth Café is overrun with homeless people. Yeah, there's a homeless encampment in the Rock Cafe where the boys used to say, I tried jumping, jumping back real quick to get back to Entourage. But with regards to The Sopranos, couple of things when when the finale happened, right, we all know all that that went on with the finale. How much did you know and how much were you getting pressured, even from people close to you? Come on, you could tell me like, you know, what was what was there? What was the restrictions like? I always wonder about that. A lot, a lot of things like it's it's hard to keep a secret like that. So what was that like for you? The last bit of episodes, whatever, six or eight? We were no longer given scripts. We were given numbered pages with your name watermarked all over it, like sides were heavily looked over and redacted. Yeah, heavily redacted. Mm hmm. I don't I think it kind of went without saying like, I don't remember any specific instructions like shut your mouth, but I think it kind of went without saying, but you know, the ending. I remember all of us feeling like, you know, like, OK, this is how it's going to end. It was. It wasn't. I didn't know how it was going to be, you know, crafted with with the editing and with the short cut to black. And any of that, like you didn't feel the tension when you were reading it by any means. So you knew the family was sitting at the diner and that was going to be the end. And it's up to the audience to decide how they feel. What happened? Well, so how do you feel? David Gest David just did an interview where I apparently he confirmed that he died. Oh yeah. I just heard that recently. But so, Jamie, I'm in my best friend's house in Philadelphia, where the New York Times has told me they want to hear my response the second the show ends. OK, I love the show. It's my f**king favorite show. I am so excited to get your mouth off to this. Of course I didn't because I didn't know what happened. We were in a house full of people and the TV went black. Everyone went nuts. People were getting up, banging the TV, yelling at. People didn't pay us cable bill when I got to be kidding me. I am telling you, though, and again everybody can debate what they thought of it. And in as it ages, we'll see how it ages, but it is pretty well. I like how I get it. I think it ended perfectly. That's fine. I'm not debating it, but I'm saying when you're sitting with 20 people, everyone thinks the TV's broken everybody was. Nobody enjoy the experience. But when I spoke to the New York Times, I was like the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh my god, why did I come up with that? But I now watching it now, knowing it's coming, it has a different feel to it and it has a real tension to it. And you know, it was a choice that is brave and insane. At the same time, you know, I was going to kill Vince at one point, which probably wouldn't have had the same impact, but also a side note. I don't even know if you guys know this. My uncle Pat, now I'm out of here, Uncle Pat Pat. I like my dad, had two brothers, Michael Tommy. My Uncle Pat was the truck driver that comes in. We just drink it with Uncle Pat at the premiers. Probably still there. He had a battle in the province, so he was also still there drinking. But my uncle Pat was the truck driver that comes in and is like one of the suspects, one of the suspects. Oh, fun. That is a very fun fact. And he didn't know. Oh yeah. Yeah, and he had to. He got called in. He had a hard audition. He didn't have any lines. They basically made him come in and David Chase had him walk around the room. That's amazing. And he's like, I don't know. And then they called, he got the job. So my uncle Pat, my father's brother, like those suspects and little Tony Soprano. And other fun factor, I want to ask you a little bit about him, I did a pilot with with Michael Imperioli, who present company excluded, I said, is literally one of the greatest actors I've ever worked with just in the six to eight days that I got to work with him. So what? And seemingly, I don't know. Well, a great guy. What was it like working the greatest? The greatest? He was like my big brother on that set in very many ways like, you know, as I was kind of as the show progressed, I started to like care about acting more. Do you know what you mean? Like the classic villains? Get me, Oh, what is this? What is this thing you guys are doing, you know? And he was just a guy that, like, always gave me the time, always gave me know like me, be very present with me. I remember one of the first episodes that he ever wrote. He was at Video Village and like, I did this scene and he came up to me after and he's like, Jamie, you're f**king funny. I need you to know that, like the rest of you are, you're f**king funny. And I was like, I am like, Oh, cool, like, he's just that guy. And still, to this day, I mean, any time I see him just makes me so happy. Yeah, the experience you had with him, I'm so glad to hear he had a leader vibe, right? Obviously, we know that Gandolfini was like the real leader right there, the commander in chief, so to speak. But you feel like like Imperioli was right was not far behind in terms of leadership. Correct. Correct. I think strictly because of his talent. Like, I don't think he necessarily walks in a room like, I'm the guy, but he has so much talent that he's naturally somebody that you're going to like, look to. He was actually when I worked with him, he was very he's so nice, but very quiet. And then when the camera goes, you're just like, he could do anything. They were actually. I had a really hard time casting a role in that show. And there were two roles and he could have played either of them, and I kept going back and forth of of which one he would be right for it. And then great. And then why couldn't I find someone as good as him for either of it to get a fourth guy? But he's amazing. So serious. I saw him off Broadway and he was just amazing. So amazing. Yeah, when I see you, it brings back a lot of memories. Also, look at me. You look great. Look fantastic. Oh, that's so nice of you guys. See two kids later. Connelly, you'll be OK. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to still stand up straight. No, but honestly, talking to you guys, you're bringing back so many memories. That's truly one of my most favorite working experiences of my life was working on Entourage. I adore you guys, and I just had the best time. Well, thank you so much. That's sweet. Look at Dillon's I, to a more tailored claimed it was going to be fun, right? I got some emotion. I mean it. I mean, I know you guys, you're the best. I feel really lucky that I got to be part of that world. And what do you think about I mean, you and Emmanuel are friends, right? Isn't it amazing sort of the bond that that that the women of Entourage kind of had and still our friends to this day? Right? Totally. And by the way, even Jerry and I, I mean, he's got two little boys and we we dream and talk about parenting now. It's just so nice. Like, you know, to have this relationship, you guys were all like the real deal as far as actors, but also people, you know, don't say too much. Kevin's choked up. Somebody get this guy. He hasn't. I also think Jamie said I was an actor, which I really like, you know, for my limited, limited experience. Well, Jamie, we can't thank you enough. Everybody, everybody. Check out her podcast and Blue Sky. I got I got a Big Sky show. Sorry, ABC. That's network. That's network stuff. I was that. Is that Ryan Phillipe? Am I crazy or no? Yes, he is. Kelly Ryan, you want to get the name right, bro. I'm not really in the business anymore, Jamie. I used to say, I say that too. I feel it must be like Long Island. By the way, we first moved to L.A. we used to go to Dan Tana's every Thursday night to see him, and it's like boy squad eating there. That's is last night. Colby was just there, ripping his shoes off and chicken parmesan. Jamie, let's ask Jamie line is that weird? Jamie Colby orders chicken parmesan. He won't order it without the cheese and then rips off the cheese and scrapes on a side plate. Anyway, I just you're shocked. You shocked the cheese. No, no, he doesn't eat. She rapes it off. He throws it in the garbage. You think that because they make it with the cheese, it like soaks in the way you cook it at that heat? He's just he's trying to, you know, Jamie, who played a real, authentic Italian. Come on, you don't feel that even though, by the way, chicken parmesan isn't even really Italian. David Chase, we can't get a scene to me because I think it's more American than not have good Italian. But I like Dante. We have a couple of good Italians now. It's grown a little bit. But yeah, Connelly wants to pitch that to Gordon Ramsay about how to cook proper chicken parmesan. And then I just do it like a dinner table food scene on The Sopranos and David Chase came out of his office for that one. You know, it's great that she's out there. That's a lot of fun. But I don't. I don't. I don't. We'll check on it. I don't think it's an authentic Italian dish. I think it's an American interpretation. But anyway, I could be wrong. But Jamie, we can't thank you enough for coming on. We're going to come visit you in Austin if your bomb has tripped it. Cancelled, we need you. November 20th at the Paramount Theater in Long Island, but I'll let you know if it does. You're awesome, and we will check out your podcast for sure. Thank you so much, Jamie. Jamie, bye, Jamie, to see you. Well, that was I mean, I do I Dillon's emotional, but I got myself straight. I really do. I get emotional seeing this because we were we really all were friends, and that's just all I know. So when I hear about other sets that weren't like that, it's always strange to me because I don't know. I guess it just shows how special this was. Entourage was just so great. It was so much fun, and everyone that comes on has something great to say about it was cool. Yeah, she was a great guest, and she's just she just looks great and she's just done really well herself. Proud of Jamie, and she's done that. She's a network show, road network dollars looking good. No one's better than a little bit of a little sour. That wraps up another episode of Victor's podcast November 20th Long Island. Please. Yes, get your tickets today. Even my West Chester brethren, you guys could come on our fifth this. This is. It's. This.