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The following program is a PodcastOne production from Hollywood California by way of the Broken Skull Ranch. This is the Steve Austin show. Give me a hell. Yeah, yeah. Now here's Steve Austin Hodge on television. Kevin staying here on my new system, I got my little headphones on. I got my Blue Yeti bike. Kevin, how are you doing? Welcome to the Steve Austin show. What's happening? I'm great. Thanks a lot for having me, man. So it's a huge thrill for me to be talking to you. I hope you know this. Hey, man, it was. It was just interesting that you sent me the email. I said, Hey man, I started reading this email us, am I going to give us a call and get him on a show? And then I said, You know, I just I'm trying to get something done, but you know, maybe I'll just talk to him for 15, 20 minutes, and I started watching more and more of your stuff on YouTube. And I said, Man, this motherf**ker can work. So I said, f**k that. We just talk for, you know, an hour and open up a total kind of audio warfare. So hey, man, let's go back to the story. Before I went to break, I read the email that you sent ahead and going back to the year 2005 when you and I met at LAX Airport. Yeah, tell me about this story from from your perspective, where you guys were coming from or where you were going back in the day. It was me and this wrestler, El Generico, who was also on the indies. We came up together like we started Montreal together for a company called IWC, and we were shuffling there in 2003. And then in 2004 we started, you know, getting out there in the United States a little bit. And then by 2005, we reference for this company in California called pWt for us in Gorilla and we were on our way there. We had a layover. I believe it must have been in Dallas, I'm pretty sure. And it was our second layover the day we had like we flew, we drove to Albania because we used to drive to Albany, New York, to catch a flight because it was way cheaper than Montreal back then. For that, you know, for Pittsburgh. So we drove four hours to Albany. It was always, you know, through the night from like, we'd leave at midnight, get there in Florida and catch a 6:00 a.m. flight, something like that. And then I think we had a layover in Philly, maybe, and then another layover in Dallas and then on to L.A. So we were pretty exhausted. And I remember I was walking to the water fountain at the gate and then I saw you standing over by the corner. But, you know, I wasn't sure if it was you just because I can blend into a crowd. Pretty good. You're Steve Austin. And I wasn't sure if I was seeing things, but then I realized it was definitely you. And you're kind of trying to be you seem like you were trying to stay, but you know a bit on your own. But I'm like, I can't not go up to them. So I went up to generico and I'm like, I then want to alert everybody around us, you know? So I was trying to be quiet and saying, Hey, come over here, you're going to, we're going to go see stone-Cold. And he didn't understand what I'm saying. He for some reason, he thought that I was about to get into a fight with somebody and I need a backup. So he was following me and asking me, Who are we going to fight? I'm like, What are you talking about? We're in an airport. Would get into a fistfight. Like, We're going to go talk to Steve Austin. And then he saw you was like, That's not Steve Austin. Oh s**t, it is. So then we walked up to you and you know, we don't want to bother you anything. But are you sure you're great? You know, it was no problem was no bother. And we ended up talking about wrestling a little. We took a picture with you and then they called First Class, which you know you were Mr. Fancy Pants. I guess the big first class ticket and a weak economy. So as you were about to leave, I'm like, Hey, do you have just one piece of advice for us, anything at all? And then that's it. You said, just run your mouth, never stop running your mouth, and then you look at generico because he's, you know, even back then, left back then. But even back then, he was taller and skinnier than me, and you just looked at him and said, the partnership will kill you, you know? And then that's set your a*s. And then I remember we were all the way back and we, you know, we passed you on the way to our seats. And then we were we were both trying to figure out what we could do, like to thank you for the advice. And we're like, Oh, maybe we could ask the stewardess to buy him a beer for us. Then we realized first class, you get that stuff for free. So we ended up not doing anything, but we were pretty like the woman sitting next to you was look like a business woman or whatever, and we were blown away that, like she had no idea of the wealth of knowledge about pro wrestling that was sitting next to her. So probably a good thing. You were sitting near us because we probably driven you crazy, to be honest. Well, that wasn't the flight that I had to climb out onto the wing and make an engine repair, was it? No, no. I don't think that was it. But I appreciate the the thought. It's the thought that counts about sitting at c**ktail over there. Yeah, yeah, I was watching. Quite a few of your matches on YouTube before we spoke. And of course, I've heard of you before, and of course, when I was talking to Colt Cabana mentioned you several times as you and I don't know each other very well. Yeah, but I told you back in the day and told Generico to watch, you have an apology s**t that it'll will kill you, run your mouth. So first of all, let's talk about generico. He's doing all that plancha stuff. How's he feeling these days? Well, he's he's actually retired El Generico. He's stopped wrestling. He Yeah, I mean, he was originally from Tijuana, Mexico, but he's got an orphanage over there. But now there's this wrestler and actually called Sami Zayn. I don't know if you're familiar with him. He wrestles a lot like generico. It's like he was a big ol generico fan back in the day and studied a lot about genetical tapes. And he does the exact same moves as El Generico, turns out, and he seems to be feeling pretty good. So I assume that if Tanaka was still wrestling, he'd say he's doing pretty well and he's feeling alright as well. When I find out how old is generico? Generico was 29, so Sami Zayn, they actually share a birthday. Weirdly enough. Aw man, dude. Twenty nine is pretty young to be retired from the from the game. Well, I mean, the duty call the others orphans back there. It's a whole thing. But then, like I said, Sami Zayn picked up the picked up the torch and he's doing pretty good. And the next day, so El Generico lives on through Sami Zayn, really? So dude, I was watching, you know, some of your stuff and you got a hell of an arsenal. And I told you we were going to start this interview at one p.m. Your time? 12:00 my time. And I called you 15 minutes late, and the reason I called you 15 minutes late was because I was on YouTube watching the top 95. It was just Kevin Steen, folks. If you were listening to my voice here on the Steve Austin show were twice a week I opened up cans of audio. What bash? You must go to YouTube and watch the top ninety five moves of Kevin Steen? It's a bad a*s s**t, dude. When I was on top on fire white hot, I had like three f**king moves that would've known half the s**t. Hell, piss on that if I would have done 15 percent of the s**t you did. There ain't no telling what I would have done how in the wide, wide world of sports did you come up with all this s**t because of some very, very good stuff? Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen the top ninety five moves. VIDEO I've heard a lot about it, though, because I guess people like a lot of people watched it, and that's cool. But I've never I don't even have myself the patience to watch myself for, you know, 95 moves out of the out of those 95. I assume I do like maybe 15 nowadays, but a lot of the stuff I came up with was this that the wrestling school I trained with Jack Russo, yeah, the mountain. Yeah. And you know, the way he ran a school is, he would kind of show up and, you know, walk around the ring while the guys were in the ring and somebody else really trained us. You know, one of those. But I mean, his his input was it was very valuable. I appreciate it. Any time he could, he could help us out. And I was out. I was in his first class, so I think I got the most out of out of Russo that any of the, you know, anybody who came up through him did because afterwards he really started to like, take a back seat to the like and just kind of stay out of the ring. But whenever he was, he wasn't at the wrestling school. We could still go and, you know, work in the ring at our leisure. So I would go every day practically. And you know, me and some other guys would just be constantly in the ring. Every night after school I drove up. There was like 40 minute drive, but I was nothing, you know, 40 minutes. Some people drove eight hours to get trained and stuff like that. So I would drive up there every day I could and other guys would join me and we just work on some stuff. And that's how I came up. Like my finishing move, the package piledriver. That's how I came up with most of the stuff I do that, you know, you might have not seen anywhere else. It was just through trial and error, really, you know what I mean? So what happens when you're doing trial and error and there's a gigantic error? Yeah, I mean, it's a big crash test dummies to, you know, to attempt this stuff for the first time. The thing is, you know, after like by the time 2002 rolled around, I've been training with Russo for like two and a half years. So me and the other guys that would, you know, at this point, we're almost running the training for him. So the younger, not the younger necessarily, but the newer students would unfortunately have to take the brunt of the, you know, the trial and error like we were doing. But you know, all of them are, we're up for it and nobody really ever got hurt. The only time somebody got hurt actually is I think somebody broke their collarbone on a chokeslam. So nothing too bad happened there. But there's definitely some interesting stuff going on. Hey, man, don't tell me about the baggage pile driver when I was watching, you know some of your matches and stuff with generico. The five moves, I saw the pack. I said, Man, I don't think I've ever seen that. I don't think I've ever seen anybody else do that. Did you invent that? Are you taking credit for that? I do. I'm taking credit for it. I've seen something similar to it, but I only saw it years after I came up with it is. It's funny, actually, because I saw it, I was watching an old Jack Russo tape of old Mountie tape and he did it, but he wasn't. He doesn't like he didn't do it like me. He kind of just kind of just grabbed the back of the guy's thighs, but without hooking the elbows the way I do. And then he just kind of rolled them on his legs and then kind of fell backwards with that. So it's not it wasn't quite as impactful, but I hadn't seen him do that when I came up with it. I was just it was another trial and error kind of thing. I was just picking up guys, and then I pick somebody up that way with the elbows and the leg stuck to him. And I'm like, Oh, I mean this. This might make a pretty good pile driver. And then I started doing it and you know, other kids at the school were into it, and then I use it on a show and by the reaction, I knew I had something, you know? Oh, it's devastating. Look at, Hey, let's go back to the school for a second. You said you were training there. Was you out for two and a half years now? And towards the end of that, you were actually training people. But as you were learning, how much experience did you get? How long were you in the school until you had your first match? I was in the school I started. I'd actually been started with Bruce, so I got trained by a French guy called Dwayne for maybe a month in the summer of 1998. I was 14 when I started training. I didn't bother my mom about, you know, since I started watching roughly when I was 11, I got to get into a wrestling school. I got to get into the wrestling school. They were like, Well, you're a bit young and then eventually threw somebody at work who knew some old why I got into that school. And he said, Yeah, you're 14. We could start training you slowly. And his school was in a barn like outside under a barn, and the barn ended up collapsing on the rink a month after we started. So thankfully, nobody was in the ring. But so that put an end to that. But I mean, he he had probably some pretty good basics, you know, nothing too crazy. But I was just starting out and I was fourteen year old kid, so he didn't put me through anything too rough. But ah, then a year went by and I saw I remember I was in school and, you know, back in those 1999. So the internet and computers weren't what it is today. But I was in computer class and we were surfing the internet and I saw an acrobatic wrestling website, the only one that the only one that existed, Dijak Losa was opening his wrestling school in September of 1999 that it was, maybe, I don't know, June. So I ran out of the class as it was going on. I remember my teacher yelling my name like, What are you doing? And I just I ran out, called my mom immediately and they had her call the number so that she could set up an appointment so that we could go see this because at that time, Zack Russo, you know, he was just fresh off like his last run in WWF. And, you know, like he was a big deal in his name, like his family name is equivalent to the hearts, I would say, you know, in Alberta and Quebec, the Russos are, like some of them, would progress. I agree. So it was a huge deal for me. So we went there on a Saturday morning. My dad, my mom and myself and Zack, we actually say, I remember my dad and I went to the bathroom and run and we ran him out there and we actually didn't wash his hands as he exited. But we were so starstruck. We didn't, you know, we didn't realize, you know, didn't wash his hands after it went to the bathroom. I'm shocked, even bothering us. And then he was slamming us around and just slapping us in the face and probably facing us in the room and stuff. Anyway, whatever. I guess that's paying your dues anyway. So he picked up everybody for a body slam and, you know, locks up with each guy that was there to see if they could sign up. And then, you know, he would go around and talk to the guys personally. And when he came up to me is like, Hey, so you know, I really want you here. I think I'm a lot of potential. I was blown away, you know, because this is the guy I was watching on TV and, you know, I really respected. Of course, back then I wasn't, you know, I wasn't smart for the fact that he went around and told everybody that right. So we went back and he told us the price to get trained. And I thought at that point that it was out of the question like, I couldn't imagine my parents being able to afford it, or even if they were able to afford it being like that, they'd be willing to spend that much on Muslim training because, you know, if you don't mind me asking how much was that? It was too grand for three months and three classes a week, which I know like now that I know how wrestling school works, it seems pretty much it's, you know, it's in the price range of most place am, right? But this was back in 2004 and 1999, first of all. And also, I just, you know, for parents of 15 year old kid, there's nothing as uncertain as a pro wrestling school, you know what I mean? It's not like I want to go. I want to play hockey. My brother was a big hockey player, so they would pay for his seasons and his equipment every year, and that was no problem. But then we went back and I didn't even bother asking them. I thought immediately. As soon as he saw the price, I remember my heart dropped and I looked on. My dad and my dad just went like, just like, just give me a nod. Like, Keep listening, you know? And then when we were driving back, they told me, Listen, we're going to pay for you to do this. And I was I couldn't believe it. And you know, it's not just the paying, it's about when I couldn't drive, so they'd have to drive me up. All this stuff, you know, but they did it, they were behind me 100 percent, and I really wouldn't be where I am today without them. So that's why in the email I mentioned out, you know how my dad was proud of, you know, hearing you talk about me. He saw me grow up on you. But you also followed me through my whole career. So that really meant something, you know? So I ended up being at the wrestling school for three years from well, from 1999 to 2003, and I had my first match, May seven, 2000, which was my 16th birthday. So when you first started out, were you working heel or babyface? I was total babyface. I was really. I was pretty short. I was pretty skinny, which is hard to believe if you look at me now. But I was, they actually call me the kid because I look like I looked like a child. I'm like, maybe 13, you know? So I was the kid, Kevin Steen. And yeah, that was my big thing. My first match on May seven, 2000 in front of, I don't know, maybe a thousand people, I'd say, which is pretty good for a first match, you know, but that's how Russo worked. He would have the way he ran his school and his company because he also ran his own company. He would have shows maybe every three or four months for his students, and he would bring in a name like around that time he was bringing Corrigan or Tim Gunn Bundy a lot to wrestle him, right as the main event, and the rest of the undercard would all be as students. But you know, you would work once every three months, but you couldn't wrestle for any other indie companies like him in Canada and in Quebec or anything like that. He would keep you very sheltered because the way he would work is, you know, because his name held held a certain esteem, you know, in Quebec, like it meant something to people. He would be able to get newspaper ads for his shows, and he would be able to book the bigger venues and actually have like a thousand or 2000 people in there. So he felt like if you are going around wrestling for companies that have 100 people and, you know, in a basement somewhere that that's not helping him and that the exposure he's giving us, let's say with our face in the paper for his show is helping other companies, right? But the thing is, it was really at that time, we had no idea, but it was really it wasn't helping us learn how to work and you know what I mean? And he would have us, like, practice our matches for three months like he would three months in advance. He would buy. OK, well, the show and made its February. Now you and you were going to wrestle on the show. Are you going to open or put a match together? And I want to see it. And then we put a match together and he would change what he did. Like, you would add stuff you wanted. And then we'd have to run through that match three times a week for three months until it was perfect. And then we do it at a show. Man, that's unbelievable. Just, yeah, you guys won't call it and ring back in. We wouldn't. He didn't want us to talk to each other in the ring. We couldn't talk to each other. Yeah, that's what you get when you when you signed up. I mean, did he smarten you up right off the bat? You know, we were smart enough just by the logic. You know, my dad, you know, all that stuff. My dad explained it to me because, you know, but obviously, but you know, just the inner workings. He really did. And that's the thing. Like, I didn't I didn't learn how to work and I didn't learn how the business. You know, I didn't learn anything about the business, which I learned. He taught us how to wrestle the way he wanted us to wrestle. Like he would teach us how to take a headlock in a way where the guy's head would be like down by our hip and there'd be no way for us to communicate. Well, that's interesting, man. Yeah, just that. When I broke into Dallas, Texas, I went down to Tennessee, my first night out there with the guy, the mask, and I grabbed a guy with a low headlock like that. When I came back, Dutch Mantell, who was a booker, ate my a*s out because there was no way that I can listen to the guy call spots. So yeah, it's very interesting that he would intentionally teach you to hold that low headlock because he wanted it to. This is the weirdest thing about him, too, is he didn't want people to be able to say, Oh, look, they're talking to each other. Oh, this is obviously fixed. So he was trying to keep some sort of kayfabe, but then he would have like he like to call his show like a family show like, you know, like it was a show about the parents could take their kids out, and they wouldn't have to worry about seeing people swear or give the middle finger or, like hardcore wrestling was always good, clean, family oriented, fun. How would that have changed there? You know, I was a big fan of Steve Austin, and it was kind of hard for me too. But I, you know, I worked within the boundaries. But the thing is, he would have like, you would have guys like dressed as Spider-Man and he would call them, like Spidey is fun to get around the trademark right. But then he would try to keep kayfabe on other things. You know what I mean? So that's one thing that he did actually a sorry to cut you off, but he would. He would, let's say, without a show, the Friday and the Saturday in the same venue. He would advertise that, hey, the same matches are happening. It's the same show. Don't come twice. Or if you want to come to us, that's fine. But don't expect a different show. It's the exact same thing. So it's basically, you know what I mean? He was telling people, Yeah, he was telling people the same finisher, the same match of everything. But then he would try to keep catering because he didn't want people to see us talking to each other in the ring. 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Wherever there is a ring of honor, my contract Ring of Honor keeps me from working some promotions that I pay per views. But besides that, I'm a I'm open to absolutely anything I can do. Whatever I want I can wear. I work all over the place every weekend and you know, I'm having a blast doing it. So you've been in the business now since you were six and you're about twenty nine. You've got 14 years under your belt. Yeah, but I would say more, you know, like for those first three years when I was wrestling under Russo, I kind of don't count those years just because I really didn't learn anything, you know what I mean? I was like a robot going through my mechanics. Yeah, exactly. So I I really started. I feel like my career really started in 2003. That's the way I felt when I broke off from Russo. That's when I feel I really start to be a wrestler. But if you want to, you know, if you can, for my first match on them. Yeah, 2000 so I'm just about 14 years. But that's what I was getting to was, you know, with coming up in that environment was kind of a script scripted per se match. And with what you're doing now, I mean, you've got to be of, you know, a large part of it in the ring, you know, maybe, maybe a fishbone of things. You know, what's going to happen now, but be able to work on the fly because I mean, you're working with, you know, many different folks on a week in, week out basis all over the place. Yeah, absolutely. I don't. Yeah, it's very different. I mean, like I know Russell still has a company out there and he's still training people. And I would say that if you know, if anybody came from his company straight into, you know, the ring of honor of his or any other, any company, now, they would be like they were getting a lot of just because they don't know. They don't know how this really works. So I was lucky, you know, I started wrestling. I started going to getting a clue of how things really worked because when I broke off from the show, I didn't immediately start in the states. I started wrestling around Montreal for other independent companies, and a lot of the guys that were wrestling there had left for moves already. So I was friends with them and they knew, but I didn't know what I was getting myself into. So they kind of helped me out, you know what I mean? Right? And then so I slowly learned through that. And then Quebec companies started bringing guys from the United States, which was very foreign at the time. You know, like indie companies in the United States will bring people from all over. But in Quebec, it was very it was almost like we were all in little territory. And, you know, bringing a guy from Ring of Honor into Russell and the Quebec show was unheard of until 2004, when a Quebec City company that doesn't run anymore brought Christopher Daniels in to wrestle me, right? And then I started wrestling guys like Chris Daniels, and then a month later, somebody brought Samoa Joe over. And Jeremy Lin and AJ Styles and I got to wrestle all of those guys, almost like in a row. And I started seeing how different things really were because those guys are awesome. And they, you know, they saw that I had a good head on my shoulders. I think I'm as clueless as I may have been. They were willing to help me, right? So and then they brought in November of 2004, the same Quebec company brought Steve Corino in, and he was he wrestled them as well, and he was instrumental in me becoming who I am now. He helped me so much and he still helps me to this day. I work with him in Ring of Honor on a regular basis, and he's become one of my best friends. So yeah, how often y'all taping Ring of Honor? We, I said, are two to three shows a month and sometimes our house shows. But there's a TV taping every maybe four to six weeks. I'd say there used to be. I pay per views, but that's become now. VIDEO On demand like the Saturday. That's a big final battle show. That's the biggest show of the year. It's on Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City. And then Monday it's going to be available on our watch wrestling website. So you're on guard? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not wrestling Michael Bennett in a stretcher match, actually. He's got this piledriver thing go on where he he gave a guy by the name of B.J. Whitmer piledriver a couple of months ago and just paralyzed them. It was actually very reminiscent of what happened to you. He was like he couldn't feel of half his body for a good 20 minutes and everything, and he would stretch it out. And ever since then, like then, it's been bragging about his piledriver. I got my package piledriver, so now we have this match and and the loser gets the doesn't. They can't use this ball driver anymore. So that's what's going on there. Sounds pretty heavy duty. Yeah. What were you just doing? The regular Ring of Honor tapings where that held up? It depends. I mean, we were doing a lot of a lot of the TV tapings were happening in bulk out of Baltimore because that's where the the office is situated. But now we're going all over the place. Let's say we'll have a show on Toronto on a Friday night and the next day or a Saturday night. And then the Sunday will have a TV taping out of the same venue or Chicago or New York. It's all over the place where we're going all around, like it's the Northeast and the Midwest, mostly. So now when you roll in there, I mean, you know, how's the booking? How much creative input? Do you have with your angle what you want to do, promos, etc.? Well, I've been in Ring of Honor since 2007, and like through those years, there's been four different bookers, so I would say that things are very different from one book to another. You know, in 2007, I started working there and Gabe Sapolsky was the booker, and he would take, I would say, he would take input from the wrestlers, but he had he had his ideas and he would usually stick to his guns about them. He really believed in his ideas, which is, you know, obviously as a respectable quality. But he would be open to hearing what guys had to say. And then after that, Adam Pearce came in. And while Adam was in charge, I came up with because Generico and I were a team for a long time under Gabe, and I came up with an idea of me and ethical breaking up and doing a partner versus partner angle. But you know, we had twists and turns that aren't necessarily seen in usual partner versus partner angles, and we had it mapped out where it would last a whole year, which is, you know, unheard of nowadays. And we have Colt Cabana and Steve Green on our side to help our friends like, you know, which was I got to give credit to them like they were willing to be, you know, supporting players to our angle. And those are two veterans and those are two guys that generic. I look generic and I looked up to, you know, for years. So for those guys to be willing to take a bit of a backseat for our angle to the, you know, to work and to help us in our angle was, you know, amazing and I have to give them credit. And also, I got to give Adam Pearce credit because he when I pitched it to him, he was hesitant, but he saw how much passion I had when I touched it and he got on board with it. And from that point on, he he was behind us where if we needed something to happen on a certain show, he would make sure it would happen on that show. You know, if you had to change something so that our angle would work there, he would do it. So it was awesome. And I think the angle came off really well. I mean, I don't want to pat myself on the back too much, but people still talk about it this way. And I think this was in 2010. It lasted a whole year. And I think that's what kept people interested in Ring of Honor. Like obviously, there are so many guys having great matches every show, but I felt like the angle was what people kept coming back for. You know, they knew they'd get the great wrestling, but they were curious to see what the next step was going to be. An Observer newsletter feud of the Year for 2012. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Obviously, if Dave Meltzer like it was pretty damn decent. He gave me a minus three and a half stars on a scaffold match. I'm still pissed off to this day. Also, he names you as the best brawler 2010 2012. Yeah, I'm right there, too. How did you come up with your style? I mean, first of all, like I said, you know, if you go to the top nine, if I moved with Kevin Steen, you see a lot of highlight moves. But just as far as your work style, obviously you're well versed. You're very athletic. But how did you come up with your style? Who launched that or how did you just, you know, turn into Kevin Steen? Well, to be honest, first of all, it's going to sound like I'm kissing your a*s. But I was a huge Steve Austin fan. I've mentioned that already. So your style was a huge influence on me. But what happened is when I started wrestling on the indies, I like you said, you know, I would do a little high flying and stuff like that, but I started wrestling. This guy called Super Dragon. He runs Pro Wrestling Guerrilla out in California, but back in the day in 2004 2005, he would wrestle, you know, in Philly for CCW and other companies like that. And I met him and, you know, generico and I kind of got to know him, and he decided to start bringing us in for pWt, which was a huge deal. You know, Generico and I have never been flown anywhere for anything, and he was paying for a flight for us to go to California. Like I remember on the way to the airport, we were both blown away. We couldn't believe it. And we went over there and we did pretty good. And then out of that, I started feuding with him and his I mean, his character was Super Dragon. He wore like a dragon like outfit and a dragon like like mask. But he he could do it all. But he was also a pretty, you know, pretty big brawler. And through that feud, I feel like I really shaped who has become now, and I give him a ton of credit because I, if you watch his stuff, you'll actually see where I got a lot of my, you know, a lot of my influence from. He doesn't wrestle anymore, but he has been. He was just a big influence and Steve Corino helped out. Helped save me a lot too, just from, you know, me working with him and being so instrumental. Like he brought me to Japan for the first time in 2005, and he's all about Japan for a second because a lot of the stuff that I see as well reminds me of Japan and especially those kind of forms that you use so much. And how successful have you been over there? Because just me watching and from what I do know, it just seems you would be a perfect fit for that. Style. Yeah, well, the first time I went was through Steve Corino was four zero one. I only went for one show. One day I was there for two days, but one show and it was four zero one. I did pretty good, though, and they told me they will eventually bring me back, which never ended up happening. But then in late 2006, through CWG, they started working with Sema, who wrestles for Dragon Gate over there in Japan. And I sent them a tape, and he immediately offered me a two month tour. So they would say, You know, I live at this place called they called the sanctuary, which is a little apartment inside of their their building, where there's like a training dojo and there's the offices of the company. So I said, yes, obviously. So I was over there for two months. I wrestled out. Of those two months, I wrestled. I spent about half the time wrestling, you know, like we have 25 shows over 50 days, so half the time I was off. So as much as I enjoyed the experience of wrestling over there, I didn't. I wasn't too crazy about the days off. You know what I mean? Because I was in Japan and I don't speak the language and I don't know anybody there. And I really enjoyed myself there, and I think I did pretty good. Like they offered me a full time spot after in terms of if any time I wanted to come back, they would book me for however long I wanted to be there for. Well, when I came home, I decided that's not what I wanted to do. I didn't want to live in Japan. You know, I was when I was a kid coming up and trying to, you know, dreaming of being a pro wrestler. I wanted to do it here. So I respectfully turned them down and ended up wrestling, starting with Ring of Honor. And that's when really, like, things took off for me here. I had already been wrestling for CWG for a couple of years, and they were great. But when Ring of Honor, when I got back to Ring of Honor, I think that's where I got really like, I really got hot and I didn't. I haven't been back to Japan since. But you know, the experience I had there was extremely valuable and I would never change anything about it. Someone threw down a call. I don't think so. Honestly, I don't think so. Also, a lot of a lot of it is, you know, my son was born a couple of months after I came back from Japan. Oh gosh. And I, you know, I'm not. I don't mind leaving for three or four days, but going over there for a week or two weeks or three weeks. I just I don't know. I'm not, you know, I'm not really into it. I don't know. I want to talk about you. So your dad and you know, I tell you what, when I was, you know, on the road, hot headed WWF back in the day, man, I missed a large part of my kid's lives and certainly never one father of the year when I was having my run in WWF. But you know, I was doing what I was doing. So obviously it's great that that's important to you. But you're 29 now. You've got a lot left in the tank if you'd like to stay in the game. How long do you see yourself continuing to do this? As long as I can make a living out of it? And you know, we've we've got a good balance now. Me and my wife and my son, you know, like he's used to me leaving three or four days and she's used to it as well. And you know, we're expecting a little girl in April, actually. So but you know, we have it down, like back then I would say we didn't have it down. You know, when my kid was born, this was new to her. I was new to me. So it was harder to go away for extended periods of time. But now, you know, she's great. She supports me in everything I do, and she's like, I to be able to do it without her and my son. That's the thing. My son is proud of what I do. You know what I mean? So that means a lot to me, and I want to keep doing it, and I want to keep doing it on as big a stage as I can. So for as long as my body keeps up with me and as long as I make a living, I think I'll be around for a while. You know what I mean? When you when you watch, do you watch TNA or do you watch WWE? I watch WWE. I can't stand a once in a while, but not not as regularly as I do WWE. Things have changed a lot with, you know, their work style versus your work styles. So what do you see when you watch, you know, Monday Night Raw these days? I really enjoy it. I feel like, I don't know. Like, I'll give an example of Daniel Bryan. I remember watching his matches in the ring of Honor, and I feel they were very different than what he does on WWE TV now. But at least now he's doing more. You know, he's doing a lot more wrestling than he was a couple of months ago, but I feel like he was so different. And as enjoyable as a ring of honor stuff was, I got a huge kick out of seeing them perform in that environment. Like, you know, I have so many friends there down now, like Seth Rollins from the Shield and you know, Bryan and Antonio Ceasar and I see all those guys and they're doing really well under that umbrella. And while it's very different, I feel like there's there's something there, you know, like it's it's changing people's minds, and I think that's really commendable. And if anything, that's a huge and like, it's a huge inspiration for me too. Like, I really like what I see and I I don't need, you know, a match to be a 25 minute classic to enjoy it. You know what I mean? I remember my matches rarely go above 15 minutes just because I like I like to wrestle for what I find as far. And I'm just not that kind of guy, you know, so I enjoy like, you know, the wrestling, the match, and I enjoy what I see and I really enjoy seeing those guys who if you watched them in Ring of Honor a couple of years ago, you wouldn't have figured that they would adapt so well to what they do over there. But they're killing it, you know, so that's that's really great to see on Twitter. You're at fights and fights. Yeah. Tell me about ad fights. Stay and fight now. And who is Kevin Steen once the bell rings? Well, to be honest, I don't think there's much of a difference between me in the ring and me in real life. Like I'm snarky, and when you gave me that advice of never, you know, don't stop running your mouth. It was almost like a moment where I realized like, Oh my god, he he's right. And also, why haven't I been doing this all along? Because I've always had that in me, you know what I mean? Like, I'm a smart a*s and stuff like that. And you know, I like you were talking about my style and all that stuff I like because I love watching brawls. I like that stuff, you know, like, I enjoy technical wrestling matches as much as the next guy, but I really get into it when there's a brawl and fists are flying and stuff flying around and s**t's getting broken, you know, like just going down and tell us, I get into that a lot and you know, I implement some style. I talk a lot of s**t too, and it always works good for me. I'll have people come up to me after shows, and even though they've never seen me before, they'll tell me after the show. But I I'm what they're going to take away from the show, either because of how crazy and chaotic the match was, or just because of how big of a smart a*s I am. But I'm like that in real life too. Obviously, I'm not going to, you know, break tables and just throw people in a shopping cart or anything like that when I'm walking around. But, you know, I'll get a little intense when I'm driving and somebody cuts me off and I'll let them fly, you know? But that's just the way I am. My sons, actually, I'm a terrible influence on my son. And I mean, I should be because if he's in the car with me and I get cut off, I don't have a filter. I'll start letting you know f**king s**t and all that stuff. And he's six years old. I shouldn't be doing that, but he's gone to the point where he tells me, Hey, you can't say that stuff, right? So that's really good. I mean, it's good that he just doesn't start selling himself. He'll let one slip once in a while. And so I was pretty funny. But he's got a he's got a better head on his shoulders than I do for that stuff. But like, I'm pretty. Yeah, I'm pretty close to that in real life to what I am in the ring, honestly. So let's talk about promos in for a second. You get a promo. Ring of Honor. Someone puts a microphone in front of your mouth. You start flapping your gums, and it is something that you wrote for yourself. Are you just flying off by the seat of your pants? Where are you coming from on a promo? No, I rarely think of what I'm going to say in advance. Honestly, I love to fly, and sometimes I feel like I might actually play against me in a way because I feel like if I watch back a promo or two, I feel like I went around a couple of times more than I needed to to get to the point. But I usually feel like it's much more. It just comes off more real if I don't think of what I'm about to say. So I just, you know, I live in the moment and it usually works out pretty good. I mean, we're talking about these notes earlier, but he's in the last couple of years and as an observer of where I, you know, I was ranked be like, you know, I was never first, but I was four or five behind like The Rock and Chris Jericho and guys like that. So far, like, I'll take it, you know what I mean? Yeah. So how are you feeling these days? You're 29. Oh, I was getting out of bed. That's pretty easy. I feel pretty good, honestly, for a guy who's done, you know, a lot of the stuff I did and like in 2010, 2011, especially with the whole angle with generico. And then when I came back to Ring of Honor after I was doing a lot of, you know, street fights and all that kind of stuff, the ladder matches and all that stuff, you would think I'd be a lot more banged up than I am, but I'm not. I don't know. I guess I'm lucky I would say, I don't know if it's going to catch up to me with time, but a lot of people tell me it should have caught up to you by now, and it still hasn't. I feel pretty good. I feel it's I feel as good as I was when I was 20. Honestly, can you can you name a specific match that you're the most proud of? Yeah, I mean. I have one match with Generico out of that whole feud. It was in March of 20. I would say 2011. Probably I no, 2012, actually March of 2012. It was during the WrestleMania weekend. Ring of Honor always runs around where WrestleMania has, you know, like every other Indy company in the world now, basically. But they had this called showdown in the Sun Night one, and it was in Fort Lauderdale and snack one. I had a last man standing there that I think probably was. It was probably our best match together. Honestly, I really like I want to lot and I there's another one that's happened in Toronto for Ring of Honor as well Northern Navigation. It was me versus Nigel McGuinness. He was a champion at the time and we went like this. That's one of the matches where I we went like 25 30 minutes, maybe even like, I think, 33 minutes. And I know it's not the kind of match that people would expect me to have because Nigel's a real technical guy, and I'm really proud of that one, too, just because of how it came off and just the crowd in it and just everything. So those two, I'd say, are probably three of the ones that, you know when people ask me that those are always the ones that come back to me. Honestly, when you go to a show these days, I mean, most of the guys, maybe you've worked really hard with the time or two if you're working with a guy you've never worked with before. What's the process for you guys going to chat a little bit? Most most guys on independent circuit are good hands. How is it training these days out there? I mean, I would say are really good. I haven't ran and like I can't remember off the top of my head of a wrestling, somebody I didn't know. And you know that I thought, Oh man, this guy was awful, you know what I mean? Right? I think everybody is pretty good at what they do. And you know, I work in a lot of promotions and a lot of the companies I work for, like Ring of Honor and pWt and to C.W., which runs all over New York state. And, you know, and SBW up in Quebec City, I wrestle pretty regularly at all those companies. You know, I have my I have my my, you know, I like to call home companies. I guess so there would be for like four of them, it would be those. And now I'm wrestling more and more for Beyond Wrestling, which runs on Rhode Island. Everybody there, all those guys are obviously very competent because I don't think they would be there if they weren't. You know what I mean? Like, I think the guys that aren't aren't where they should be or aren't as good at or as experience as they should be for those spots, just kind of get weeded out with time. And then what do you want me to cut you off? What do you do for kicks, dude? What do you do for hobbies? What do you do to relax? If you're not wrestling, you're not hanging out with your family and your wife, your kid? What what other things you passionate about? Well, a pretty well-known fact about me is that I'm a zoo enthusiast. I don't know if I don't know if that rings a bell for you, but I am a big fan of going to the zoo. What's your favorite animal? I love animals. Three cats and a dog right now locked into my bedroom because I don't want them to make noise during the interview. I know I got three dogs here and they snort overhead on a bed, but I have. I have it myself. What's your favorite animal to zoo? I don't have a favorite. Honestly, I'm a big fan of all of them. But what I like, I guess it would be panda like, those are pretty. They're not too common in Canada. The only there's only one zoo in Canada that has its Toronto zoo now, and they open their exhibit in May of this year. So I took I took a booking on the Thursday night near Toronto just so that I could drive up there with my wife and my son, and next day, spend the whole day at the zoo and go see the pandas. So one of the two of us cats in a squared circle in the world and your favorite animal is the panda. Yeah, but you know what? I actually have a Boston show, one of the best selling T-shirts, one of the best selling T-shirts and T-shirts as I panned on it, believe it or not. So you have a website, Kevin Stein, Russells dot com, and you also have a YouTube channel. It's called the Kevin Steen. What do you do? Kevin's weekend escapades talk about his escapades. Yeah, basically, it's just an idea I had. I'll give credit where credit is due here. Colt Cabana is one of my best buddies, and you've met Colt. You've talked you had him on a podcast. You have, yeah, he's a great guy and he he's an innovator and he's like a self-made guy, you know, and he he is a big influence on me and pretty much everything I'm doing now, even having, you know, the merchandise and the T-shirts and DVDs. I didn't have any of that back in the day. You know, I would just wrestle, get my partner for my match and leave and come home on what I had left. But he, you know, Colt's marketing machine and he has all this merch, and he would always tell me, you got to get merch, you got to get merch. And I never listen to him until recently. And, you know, the past year that those T-shirts and those DVD sales have helped me and my family have a better life. But it doesn't stop there, you know, he told me, or back in the day, you got to get a Twitter. You know, he was on Twitter for months before I got one. He's the one who told me, You got to get a Twitter. What are you doing? So I got to Twitter. And you know, that's where I feel like actually my Twitter account has helped me reach a lot of people that I wouldn't have reached otherwise. And then, you know, he he started this podcast and now I do this thing called the Kevin Steen Show, which is an interview series I do for high spots where I just sit down with one of my wrestling friends and we just see the show for about two hours. I sports records and it puts it out on DVD. You could call it shoot interviews if you want, but it's really not. It's just it's a lot like what you're doing, too, but it's inspired from calls, you know, out of wrestling podcast. And the weekend escapades, I would say, are inspired from cult wrestling Road Diaries, which is a DVD put out. It was him, Bryan Danielson and Sara Noro going around to various indie shows over the span of a week or two, and they were just recording everything they were doing. So, I mean, you know, Colter told me, You got to get your YouTube channel, you know, you got to start making something out of that YouTube channel. So I decided I'm just going to record myself every weekend, you know? And at the same time, it became a thing where my wife now gets to see what I'm up to on weekends, and she really enjoys that. And it's something I'll be able to show my kid when he's older, you know? Yeah. And it's basically me going around recording, you know, I started out with, I'm driving to the airport or I'm driving to the show and I'm recording myself talking about what happened that week and where I'm going and why I'm going there. And then it's just me with the boys. And whatever happens happens. I get a little bit of wrestling on there. Like, I try to get some footage from the show I'm on, try to help them out. I put it on and then, you know, I let it all out. I did it all together at the end and I put it up every week. What are you filming at all? Just my phone. Really? Yeah. I use my iPhone for everything, and I have this program on there called iMovie. I use that to edit it, and it works great. Coming soon, a sci fi sequel that's driving critics while I'm back, Mary, it's time to celebrate. Time is the one thing we can't afford, John. You're wrong, Mary put M50 VIDEO Tolling. I can save time, money and pay me tolls automatically. This is the greatest story ever told. Timesaver two out now perfect for occasional M50 road users. No fees associated with this account sign up. But if low dollar tolling is a vital source of funding for the operation and maintenance of our National Roads Network. So how long do these things last between 10 and I have some there. Ten minutes, some are 20. I had one. I went to England a couple of weeks ago. That one was like three minutes, and it includes Jushin Liger. Slap him in the face. So it's a good time. Was that a shoot or work? Well, what happened is, you know, I try whenever I can. I try to get, you know, if there's somebody famous on the show, I try to get them on the weekend escapades, right? So I went up to do some liger and I wrestled them back in Dragon Gate in 2006. But I don't think he remembered me at all, you know? So I told him, I like your son. Do you think we could do something for YouTube? Is like, Okay, so I say I told him, I'm going to come up to you and say, Hey, remember when you gave me a palm strike in 2006 and then you could give me a palm strike is like, OK? But I said, you know, nobody's going to see the palm strike because I'm holding the phone a certain way so you can hit me in the chest. Nobody will know because this was in the back, right? So it's like, Okay, so I go up to them and there's the promoter, a couple of other wrestlers there. I go up to the iPhone and I go, like this. I remember the palm strike of 2006, and he goes, I'm sure I see and I don't know why you said, See, but he did. He slapped me across the face like there was a thousand people there. The iPhone flew, hit the ground came out of its case, but it never stopped the record and it was perfect. And then I thanked them, because why not? You know, why wouldn't I? And that was it. He slapped the s**t out of me, but it was good. Good for those countries to take it out and show and get it ready to go. I mean, sometimes I'm I procrastinate and I don't do it right away. But in reality, as I'm filming it, I could just put it on that program and edit it all. Like this week, I only had one show Saturday night, but I had it out by Monday during Raw because, you know, that's the peak hour for people on Twitter. So I sent the lake out during during Raw on Twitter and people watch it. But sometimes I can have it up Thursday, or sometimes I can have the Monday right after the weekend, but it really doesn't take me much time at all. If I have it up late, it's because I'm kind of being lazy, honestly, whether I'm going to check it out, I'm going to get on YouTube with there's a scene. There's about 30 of them out there right now. All right. So we can ask about her score by just second. Before we wrap this thing up, I want to talk to you about merchandise, swag, T-shirts, all that stuff. You said that was, you know, a big part of being able to make money. I saw, you know, a couple of your shirts as I was, you know, doing some looking on YouTube as well. And there was one shirt. Help me with this. It was violence, brutality, devastation, destruction, destruction. Yeah. So that rings a bell with me. That resonates. I did that. So your idea of somebody else's idea, it was kind of my idea. You know, the the rise against rise above hate or something that John. An for a while, I was looking for a shirt to make, and I don't know. I liked this T-shirt, but I figured maybe I could kind of rip it off and make it my own, you know? So then back then I was going with the casting call that that was my Twitter handle. But after a while, I I felt like that was honestly, I just felt like I was wrong. Like I felt like right. There was too much killing going around anywhere in the world. So I changed it to fight Steve fight. I agree. But the original was Kirsten came out fight scene, fight and in the back, you know his personal loyalty respect. So how am I going to make it my own? And then I thought of three words that describe me in the ring and violence, brutality, destruction just perfectly. And it's worked pretty well for me so far. I think it's probably besides the Panda one. The best selling Kevin Steen shirt would be the violence, brutality, destruction once made when I used to ride down the road. This is back in the day. You know, I'm going back over 10 11 years when I was still around, guys wore fanny packs and credit cards, receipts, garbage pans, you know, all the bulls**t that you write for the road. But I kept a Sharpie and a piece paper and air because any time I'd be right down the road if I saw a billboard or anything that sparked my creative brain to start spinning, I'd write an idea of our T-shirt down. Do you ever do that? Absolutely. I mean, that's the thing. I don't. That's what I kind of end up. You know, I like ripped off the John Cena idea and stuff like that. I I'm not. It's weird. I as creative as I can be for angles and wrestling and and moves. I have a hard time coming up with creative stuff for T-shirts, so I do try to do that. But unfortunately it doesn't come to me quite as easily. But I've actually had this idea a couple of days ago where I would say maybe Steve and then, you know, I don't know, three, three, sixty, maybe Steve 360, something I'm working on, you know, maybe two art. Maybe not. So in a way, Kevin, we're talking on Wednesday to show drops to mark. You've got a big show coming up. Let's talk about that one more time. Yeah. Saturday night at the Hammerstein Ballroom New York City, its final battle for Ring of Honor. It's the biggest show of the year. It's going to be. It's going to be online for everybody to watch it by Monday or Tuesday on the Arledge redfin.com. I'm also wrestling in Brooklyn on Sunday for the Maximo Brothers. I'm wrestling Colt Cabana, actually, which we really rarely get to do, so I'm pretty excited about that. And then next Friday and Saturday, I'm in receipt of California for pro wrestling guerrilla. And that's that's a company like no other in pro wrestling these days. So anybody who can check it out, I highly recommend it. Why now? Why do you say that about pro wrestling guerrilla? There's just something about our place by the venue and those fans and the wrestling there. That's magical. Like, it's hard to put into words, honestly. You almost have to see it for yourself, but it's the crowd. You know, it's a tiny venue. It fits about 400, and when there's 400 people in there, it is packed like standing room only and everybody's there to have a good time. And you know, they'll react the same to a guy they've never seen before than they would to a guy that has been there for 10 years. They're just they appreciate everything you do. And I don't know. Honestly, I think they're the best fans in the world, and it sounds very corny to say, but it's the truth. And everybody who wrestles there says the same thing after, like on the independent scene, you ask an indie guy, where where do you want to work that you haven't had the chance to work yet? And 99 percent of them will say CWG in California. So there's something special. There's something about being in a smaller venue with it packed to the gills, and there's just this intimate feel or relationship with the crowd and melodic some of those smaller build, as you said, that is in Reseda. Yeah, it's a big city, California. Yeah. Here's a quick question before we leave. You know, I talk with Colt Cabana, and of course, Colt has his podcast, which many of you are familiar with art of wrestling. And so I know that Colt works, you know, he's a very versed worker, but he works a lot of comedy stuff. So obviously you're a little bit on the opposite end of that spectrum. What can we expect from this match up between yourself and Colt Cabana? You know, to be honest, I'm I am a part of that spectrum, though. I mean, I'm a, you know, while Colt will, you know, implement his comedy and his wrestling and it'll be, you know, cute stuff and funny stuff and more of a playful kind of comedy. I, well, you know, I have the whole violence, brutality, destruction thing. But as I do that, I'm pretty good at throwing smart a*s comments out there. And, you know, I get a few laughs here and there. So it's pretty it's pretty interesting contrast of styles, but I think people end up getting a pretty big kick out of the match for sure. You got two veterans out there who's calling the match, who's the who's leading the charge? I'm definitely going to be listening on this one for sure. You heard it here first. I've they're talking to Kevin Steyn. You can follow him on Twitter at. Five. Stephen Fite. His website is Kevin Steen wrestles dot com, because that's what he does. You can check him out on YouTube on his YouTube channel. The Kevin Steyn and check out his weekend escapades. Hey, Kevin, man, it's been good talking to you. I appreciate you coming on the show. It's an absolute honor for you to have me here. The pleasure's all mine. Thank you so much. 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