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Greetings, everybody, welcome to the final episode of 2022 of one degree of Scandal US with Kato Kaelin and Tom Zenner Kato, good to see you. We are remote. We are digital for the first time in the history of the show. Good to see you, buddy. Good to see you. I know you took a seat back and I said, I'm not going to be in the same room. Are you kidding me? I don't care if I make your daughter for God's sake. Oh my God. Three Caller three call all of it. Have you ever been in that state where you just like like i£ multiple cold medicines thinking double whammy will help? I don't wait for hours. I'll take one every two hours and another. By the end of the day, your lips are swollen and your face is numb. But I think it's helping me for some reason. I don't know what I do exactly like you do, though. You know, I have my my wife is young. She's got all these traditional Chinese medicine. I'm not kidding you. They all help. She's got all these things that she gets shipped in from China. So I try everything and I've been a knock on wood, help me for about a year and a half. It's amazing. You know what? There's so much. They've been doing it for thousands of years. They found something that works in the roots of the berries and whatever else. Send it my way. I will try all that, by the way. It always seems like at the end of the year, I get run down and I get this but perfect time. There's a lot of football, a lot of stuff to watch, though it could be worse. I guess it's is. I tell you, this is the best time right now with sports. I mean, it is great playoffs. NFL, the College of Football Basketball started. There's all the sports are in full gear. I love this time of year. It's great and I'm just so excited for 2020. Three. I see big things, huge things happening all the way around. You know, like, I've been shaking this cold. You wouldn't had anything going on in the last couple days, either. I don't like seeing your name anywhere. It's been kind of a dead week for you, hasn't it? You know, it's funny. I'm amazed that it must have been a slow news day that DMZ our friends, Harvey and of course, that hosted the show. I couldn't get out in time. They wrote this whole article about me stealing oranges, all the felonious fruit caper. OK? And it's hysterical. Know I've been around TMZ for the last 20 years. It's funny because it's people that are filming you, and I always tell my wife, I go, You, you're on camera all the time. You don't realize that you on camera all the time is actually a buddy of mine. Adam Rifkin, director who did a film about how many times you're on camera every day. So anyways, I'm just out there walking our our neighborhood, and I know everybody pretty much. Hi, Kato, I always ask permission, usually if I'm going to take any oranges off the trees. And by the way, if you watch it, I'm telling people there's a video on TMZ where it shows Kato supposedly stealing oranges, which are not. If you really look at the video, you can see, I'm talking to the man. Go ahead. Take those where he goes, those oranges in front. They're not ripe yet. Those are blood oranges, blood oranges. And then he goes, I have a better three in back. So you see me leaving at and my wife being Chinese. She goes, No, I only want Mandarin oranges. I'm getting fed. OK, so I woke up that day. And by the way, this isn't just this was one of the biggest stories on TMZ. I think it was either Wednesday or Thursday of this past week. We're going to show the story here. We'll cover it, but I'll go back and look at Kato. I wake up because, you know, I have my phone next to me. I'm always checking it throughout the night, just looking for news stories and just see what is going on. And I literally thought I might have been dreaming when I was reading the headlines, and I saw it because it was big and bold and bold. Are you kidding me? They're making such a big, funny deal out of this. And I kept thinking, I've got to reach Kato on what if he's upset about this? I mean, Harvey is your friend, for God's sake. We just had a big meeting with these guys a few weeks ago, but it was funny. But I remember what it's like when something like, that's big. You're so used to it for twenty five years. You see your day. But it was it was so real. How did you find it? How did you find out about it? Here's how my day started. So you and I are just hanging out in the parking lot of a Home Depot. Next thing you know, I picked up and I'm I'm stealing oranges. I'm kidding. That's a joke. You ever go to Home Depot, you're looking for work. I was quite often by phone buzzing next to the bed, and I'm seeing it and it's you and you're going, you know, have you seen the story? And I'm going, Oh, no, who died? And you go, No. Check out TMZ. So I call you immediately said, Come on, TMZ wants you on. And I said, Tom, let me read the story first. And so I read it and I was like, OK, Nona must be a slow news day. But I actually was laughing because in my head, I'm going through the entire scenario of what really happened. And I've just funny that the neighbors are taping, that they're taping it, and I don't know if they sold it or what they give to TMZ. And it's the stealing orgies. Of course, the comparison oranges and OJ. I was hoping it'd be great for Dre, but no luck. So the only good thing is that when I do my looting, I always do it very healthy. Yes. Vitamin C and the good kind of there you ask for permission and then you'd only take something that's healthy, so good for you. I hope everybody can learn from that. You know, they must have had security cameras. And then when they went back and looked at it, they thought, Oh my God, maybe we can make some money on this thing. We'll call TMZ or see if they want it. No, I think they I think they're looking to the window because he came out later and was talking with me and he didn't say, Hey, Kato, he just was high, but I knew he was being really friendly. And have you read the story is all for like, yeah, take my. And, you know, I just thought that I don't think it's Typekit I. It could have been a security camera, but there definitely. There's there's filming going on and one degree of scandalous how to end the year on our show with me being a scandal. That was the best Christmas present I got with you being in the, you know, center stage on TMZ. Thank you. I did have the book. I guess I just say what you want to tape. I got to say this. Zheng, he looked outstanding. I mean, with the hat to the grade, tell her that from me. What was her thought? Welcome to America, Shaggy. This is what it's like being married to Kato Kaelin. I mean, she already knows. Exactly as she had she had no, I said I've told this before. I said I've gone through it for the last twenty eight years or whatever. I know when someone says something about me, I can hear it. I can sense it in airports. And she doesn't believe that you have that our standard. I said, You have to believe me. I know, I know exactly what's going on. And so when she saw the video, by the way, she at first was worried. Then she start watching start cracking up because we lived it. She's black and she's like the protector of the orange tree. And I am cracking up and I juice every day. I put it, I have a juicer. And have you seen the price of oranges lately? But I juice all the time. And I said, These are perfect. So I start grab juice. No, no, no. We got to ask. And so when the guy came out, it was A-OK. And so she's like black in the tree. She does one of her best ninja kicks. Honey, I just want these oranges for the house. And I normally put oranges and lemons in my car because I love the smell of it, and it's sort of therapeutic. I always have lemons and oranges in my backseat because the smell is so for me. It just it's great. You know, it's so funny because randomly people do this. If you're walking through a yard, you'll pick something you don't even think twice about it. But with you, you know, it could be an international news story any time you do something right. But you got to give TMZ credit. They they made fun of it, because here's the funny side story. So that morning I get a call, probably about 7:30. I'm up already, right? And I couldn't remember if you had your big night, you know, when you play poker and everything, if you were in late the next morning, but I was trying to reach you. And then DAX Holt starts calling me or texting me and I go, Hey, man, what oranges? Because I knew that's why he was probably reached out for me. So that was the only time, maybe ever, that he was co-hosting TMZ Live so that he had a hard one to you on, and Harvey wanted to do something funny with you on face time. But I guess the producer put the kibosh on it for some stupid reason. I have no idea how that happened because I kind of had jokes and everything else ready for these guys that I know how they work, that DAX did our show, of course. And when I saw how it kind of started trending and I was, I was blown away with the comments even on my Twitter feed. The comments were pretty funny. People from Wisconsin going, God, if we had Orange Street zero, I'd steal every day. Do they have Lemon Tree scattered? All right. Yes, there's lemon juice. I steal those, too. Hey, there's no signs of you like in the neighborhood pictures of you. Be careful of this man. Do? Not yet. Not yet. This man has scurvy. Please let him have his vitamin C. Yeah, right? How many? Like when something like that happens? How many messages do you have on your phone? I mean, are you looking at it? Is it just text message after text message? Great question. Because all my all my best buddies were getting all their messages. They start getting from other people that have friends there. And so my friend would give me a text chain of everybody's asking about you, the writing jokes I'm trying to think of to stay away from O.J., stay away from it. Sort of related to Simpson, but tons of messages it all very comical of know. No one was saying anything sort of derogatory, at least now that some of the comments might have been. But I honestly, you live in this area, Tom. People do this all the time. And where I live, we have a great victory and we take those all the time and little nectarine or 10 Jell-O. So it's it's pretty common, but I continue always to go to other places. I knock on doors. I say, Hey, can we grab some of your oranges? And they always say yes. Although one time, one time they hung in. I went to someone's house and it was an Asian man and I thought, Oh, this guy's going to be great. He saw me taking his oranges, but the tree was brittle and the branches are falling. So he and his wife said, Hey, don't destroy the tree. We said, we know we're just pulling up with the branches of raking. And then his wife came out with a broom and said, I to clean up this mess. I said, Oh, that's not our best. So you came out in the street. I said, That's someone else. And the oranges were terrible anyway. So I'm never go back to that one house and I'll give you the address. Yeah, right. Let's go back there. It does. It's kind of flattering, though, to know that you're still that relevant, right? I mean, where they could get a full run on that thing. And, you know, Harvey had had a kick with that. But come on. There's there's very few people on the planet that can have as much fun with it as you. Right? I understand that. Yeah, I think so. I think also people want to give away their stuff. I mean, honestly, oranges and citrus fruits. Fruits are so expensive out here in California. I mean, it's getting to be that I can only afford to shop at half time. Do we have a drum roll? We'll insert that. That was good. Ben, go ahead. Oh, no, I was I was going to say other stuff that's going to be happening. I'm so looking forward. First of all, our show in twenty twenty three for more scandal shows, I gave you information. I'll be doing some other people's podcast. I'll be doing our show. I won't release those until we're confirmed, but everything's looking up for the Teen Court Jane Grace to court. There's so much on the plate right now going on that I know twenty twenty three is just it's just going to be a good good year. I'm as excited about twenty twenty three as any year, literally. I just with, you know, I think this was the year laying the foundation and just developing great ideas, pushing them and finding out that they're going to work. So the sky's the limit in twenty twenty three. OK, so at the end of the year, it always seems like famous people die. Unfortunately, it becomes a bigger story. Barbara Walters, man, she is the ultimate Oh gee, I remember running into her five, six, seven years ago, maybe at the Plaza Hotel, having a nice little conversation with her. She's such a legend. You knew her well. I mean, you were on the regular list being interviewed by her. Diane Sawyer, Larry King. The whole deal. What was your recollection? What was your memories of of Barbara Barbara Walters? First of all, people don't know how great sense of humor she had. And you know, what's the best part is that the relationship she does, she does interviews millions of people. But I thought that she even told me she goes, Rarely do I go on those interviews and dinners with people. And I was like, Oh my God. So we went on quite a few different dinners in New York. You always treated me with so much respect. And you know, I used to you producers go, God, you Barbara loves you. She makes you laugh. You make her laugh so much. I was like. I honestly, it was like, Wow, this is really great. And 20, 20 and this is not me being big headed. Trust me, but I'm telling you facts that were on that. It was ninety five. There was eight people, the most interesting people of ninety five, and I was one of the people on that list along with Mariah Carey. And I've got to go back in time, but I was like, Oh, this is great. So I take that 20 20 and we never lost our relationship along with the other producers too. And I think I did interviews at least six or seven times with her and I think lunches and dinners, probably four times. And the biggest moment we had together was the day of the verdict that I was with her at the Century Plaza Hotel in L.A. and we watched the verdict together and I whispered in my ear, but I was out of gas and that was sort of iconic to be with her at that time in history. So did she interview you right after that, then, to get your reaction to the interview? And she was courteous. I said, I don't feel comfortable doing it with the alive while it's going on. And she said, I respect that. So yeah, she did the interview right there at the Plaza Hotel. In an interview at the hotel, one of your stomping grounds. And yeah, I just everything about her to me was that she was just so cool and kind. And a lot of people say she's very hard headed. And some people didn't like her. I'm sure that's true, and I never saw that. I was one of the probably two or three times on The View when she was on, I was a guest. And, you know, she started that she was executive producer. That was her show with much better back then, totally different now. And when I left. Yeah. So. Yeah, I just I just remember I remember going to dinner with their whole staff and crew and then we went out for sushi, and I just remember that night getting violently ill that I could make it and I must have had a bad piece of data. So if you make sure they made sure I had a car and I don't think I was going to be able to make it, I just made it to the hotel and got really sick. That's all I'll say. I mean, sick. What was that had to be a spectacle, though, going out to dinner with her in New York at the height of your fame and with her being the queen of news interviews at the time? Where did you guys? I know you mentioned sushi, but what was it like? Was the crowd always coming up to you guys trying to get autographs and talk to you guys? Well, if you go back in time, it was just like that first time ever. If you remember is a restaurant called Victor Dres used to be on La Cienega. It was the hot spot. First time I had gone there without a lawyer and I was walking and she happened to be at a dinner table there. And then she pulled me aside and we start talking. Then I pulled up my chair and then we start bringing my food there. And then she said, Let's have a real dinner here like another week, and we did so each day that went to Dres again. Like I said, it was so great. And you know, you look back at time that was before the social media, the word Twitter before any of that stuff. And it would have blown up. It would have just blown up because the who hoo of people were all there. Yeah. And and then it was on. And so and then I did this thing for Rolling Stone and US magazine and it was a photo book. And it was. Gosh, what was it, it was time, do you have a second? I think it might be right there. What would you see if I could pull it up? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, go do it. I have to run. Can you cover yourself? Yeah, I can. I'm going to read everybody the story from the TMZ. If you haven't seen this Dateline Burbank, California felonious fruit caper, it's an exclusive. A TMZ exclusive, Kato Kaelin is once again making himself at home on someone else's property in bizarre fashion. And no, we're not done making O.J. Simpson jokes for this kooky story. They had a lot of fun writing that you could tell. I mean, they could. They couldn't wait. What do we got here? Is that the crazy, sexy, cool book? But that's Drew Barrymore. And maybe that's not me. That's Brad Pitt. I'm his brother. Armpits. But it's very funny job because. I'll find it for you. Story time with Kato Kaelin. Is that great eating a coffee table book that he's in? Only in America, only in L.A.? Yeah, it's a, you know, you page through a book like that. Doesn't it remind you of a simpler time? Oh, completely, Tom, and it's a tragedy of this going to the state's going to have to fight for it. It's it's pretty cool. Well, you got Tom Hanks. My captain was I tell people, I've always just tried to keep my head above water. Did you own shirts back then? They should have been in this kind of age that I think that's what they wanted to do because they had the whole thing when I was writing lots of writing, no shirt, no shirtless, any more for me, no shoes, no shoes, no shoes, no service. What about even the story in TMZ? They had a good photo from you back at the trial, right? It's like you're pondering. It's like Marcia Clark that's asked you a question like, Ooh, let me really think about that. What did you see that picture? I do. It's kind of like your snapshots we do before our show. Yes. Try to put a little caption. Did you put any thought into your wardrobe and any of that stuff? Did you have a stylist when you testified now, OK? You're pure my style, which is I don't know if that's good or bad, but my style. Marcia Clark thought it was hostile. Witness, right? Yeah. All right. OK, so what was that book that was like? What year? Like mid-nineties? Yeah, it's called crazy, sexy, cool. It's probably like any Liebowitz shooting and Mary Ellen mark a bunch of divers, but it's a great it was the Rolling Stone magazine and US magazine combined with Jann winner. I think that was, yeah, that was cool, but I was glad to be part of that. You know, some would be offended by it if they try to do a book like that right now. Did you hear about the what was it? There was the announcer for North Carolina state football. They were doing what he was doing the ball game, the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, and he made reference to illegal aliens being in El Paso, which there is a horrible border crisis down there, right? The guy's been the announcer for thirty one years. They suspended him for making that one comment. Wow. I. Geez, I just told the joke about me and Johnny being at Home Depot ended up in August, while I knew that called Segway. But you could get away with it when it's your wife. I think, right? She's not offended. All right. Any New Year's resolutions doing anything big on New Year's Eve, we're taping this on New Year's Eve. No, I don't see the hours of twenty twenty two. Nope, I'm going to continue being exactly how I left. Twenty twenty two. But the breaks are all happening, the hard work come through and I think it's good. It's going to the many, many dividends. Of course, you and I together, we're going to pay dividends to our show is just pure fire fire. We're going to kill it, Kato. And if you need any oranges, any citrus, you let me know I'd be happy to deliver you some, OK? That's the pink publicity for the show. They keep doing what you're doing. OK, I'll keep taking more. Just you have a tree at your house. No, no, we don't. Luckily, our neighbor doesn't, either. That's Sean Payton. Don't pick one on his yard. I'm not sure what I know. I mentioned that you were in Manhattan or that. Yeah, yeah. No, you're right. Tom is right on the beach. Admit it. And probably, I would say, top five places in the world to live this toms like Manhattan Beach drop dead gorgeous. What a great. You can walk to the beach in a hundred yards. And speaking of Sean Payton, a hundred yards end up, man. What? Can't wait to visit you in the spring. Come on out, kiddo. All right, man. Happy New Year ! Thanks so much for sharing the details. Nothing you're holding back on the TMZ story. You shared it. All right. No, it's you know, I think that's my goal. Give the more TMZ and I think the relationship with Harvey, that's always getting stronger. And I think Harvey's got, if I'm not mistaken, a deal like box or something. And he's such a power hitter. He's a smart, smart business man and great on camera. Yeah. No, they have that. They're owned by Fox now. So they they're developing all kinds of shows with Fox as the engine behind that. So a lot of great things coming up at twenty twenty three. Enjoy the final few hours. Have a good, safe new year tonight. Kato and I will see you in twenty twenty three. I'm surprised you don't ask me. I do. Barbara Walters didn't we have a new Pope Benedict? Did you? No, he just he just passed away, too. Yes, OK. The one celebrity that you didn't have dinner with back in the day. OK, well, I'll see the comedian. Maybe you went to confession. Maybe you confess some sins to him. Who knows? Yes. But you got to love the party dresses like Elvis. I mean, I always love to see what the pope would get off the airplane, the first thing that hits the ground. And this time he did it for real because he was on Spirit Airlines. But seriously, Tom, I'm not going to stop go. No, I do not. That's going to be the final joke in 2022. Kato, you are the man. Love you. Have a great night. I'll see you in 2023. OK? Be happy about that being presenter. Thanks for watching everybody. London has fabulous Kato, Kaelin, Tom that download subscribe you see in the new year.
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