Bray Wyatt - SAS CLASSIC

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Tuesday's just got Chikere with 20 percent off your favorite foods all day on July. Did somebody say participating restaurants, only 20 year old minimum spend delivery and service charges apply. See Just Eat study for details. The following program is a podcast Wine.com Production from Hollywood, California by way of the Broken Skull Ranch. This is the Steve Austin show. Give me a hell. Yeah, yeah. Now here's Steve Austin. I've got what Peter Rosenberg we've been trying to hook up for, what about a year, something like that as we just rolled into 360 and Gimmick Street with your posse? I did want your parking outside. I got a spot across the street. I came in with my suited agent, Deborah Stein, who I always reference. I think it's a very he'll move to a reference, having an agent with me at all times and my assistant Mike. And first, thank you for having me here. This is amazing. I'm glad we could hook up because you're here. You're from East Coast. You live in the city. I live right. I live in the big city. That's right. And when I drove West Coast, and so is the Grammy's that brings you to town. Yes, I've been coming out here quite a bit like every six weeks or so just to try as you as you. Well, you didn't have this issue because everyone wants to work with you. But as I experience, you know, when I when I sign with an agent, I was like, I'm not going to be one of those guys who sits back and waits for my agents to do stuff. I'm going to come to L.A. every six weeks and get in their face and go sit in their office. So I come out here quite a bit. But the Grammys, I'm doing something for E for the Grammys this weekend. So what are you doing for me? I am doing. They are calling me in as an expert on the pre-Grammy red carpet for eOne Line. So they do like an expert in what a music expert, what you are, which is with with respect to the hip hop genre or music in general. Well, I I said that from the beginning, I said, Are we going to fight? You're going to focus me on hip hop. And they said, We're going to. They said, Are you comfortable with pop and hip hop? I said, That's fine. Right? So where does the pop part come in? Like, who would be included in those artists? Well, this year it'll be the record of the year in the Song of the Year category. Taylor Swift Hozier had a big thing about Taylor Swift going from country, and it was pop country, but nonetheless massive success on a commercial level. So and her endeavor in the pop sugarcoated stuff for I mean, because you're pretty critical. If I was a big country guy and I got to tell you the only country I love, I like a lot. I like random country all the time. The only country I love is like, it's very rare. And it's Tim McGraw, Garth Brooks, the Dixie Chicks, Kenny Chesney, right? I'm a pop country kind of guy, right? But they're still definitively country. There's no question you don't hear them on pop radio, right? That's country radio. If I was a country guy, I'd probably take issue with Taylor Swift only because I don't see how she can be called country anymore. To me, I don't hear country when I hear it anymore. But but with that last album she came out with, I mean, wasn't that indeed her step into pop? I mean, completely, but I thought she was already there. Yeah. Well, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. You thought about the world they hold out in country. I think honestly, her look, yeah, her abundant whiteness keeps her appearing more country than she actually is. She's not that good. It was a first for the Steve Austin show. I'm going to give you a bunch of firsts today. So did you enjoy coming out to L.A.? Because I mean, you're you're from Maryland. Yeah, but you dig New York edgier your vibe and you feed off that, you know, is it deejaying or radio personality at Hot 97? I'm really into it. I'm a deejay, but I'm really when I write my my thing down, it says host slash deejay, right? That's what I do. I'm honestly, most people know me as a host, but I have been a DJ for 20 years. That's how I got into the business. But I love New York. I love L.A. I got to tell you, I know your thoughts on L.A., many of which I share. But I got to tell you, when you live on the East Coast for as long as I have, surely the quality of life because of the weather is such a huge deal that I love coming L.A. right? Because I just, you know, it's awful in New York right now. It is. I want to give a big shout out to everyone in New York who's so miserable in that place right now. So to be able to come out here, I'm able to see through a lot of the bold about the city because of how nice life is here, right? But I do understand the thoughts you have on it. I mean, listen, L.A. is L.A. There's no question. Different of the people in your mind who I think it's a red bubble to work in my hair. You go by Red Bull in a sugar free over here. Rivers, people. The difference of people. I think it's overstated. I think every time you get out here on New Yorkers, all go, I hate, I hate people in L.A. They're also funny. Whenever I get to L.A., guess where I meet all New Yorkers, move to L.A. and hate L.A. The whole city is filled with them every one a year. I always thought L.A. was full of crazy people. My wife is from here. She's crazy enough to marry me, but she's not really crazy. So it's all it was the crazy people that moved here. I think L.A. in and of itself is pretty cool. I have. I have a theory on that. Oh, please expound. So here's why crazy people will come to us is going to be like an equals empty squared. Not that I don't. I can't go that deep because for what I just said, the weather's so beautiful in L.A. and there are two reasons people move to L.A. to act and for the weather, right? Both of those people are often incredibly superficial, shallow people because they let their lives be dictated, either by wanting to be in front of a camera, which you and I understand to an extent, right? And or whether they like they needed the whether it was number one, it was more important than anything, whereas someone like me or you, the reason you love text is the reason I love New York. It's because of all these other things that right? But so I think there's a certain kind of mentality in those people that makes them crazy. Right? I mean, that's why I think you're not out. There are a lot of crazy people out here. So the Grammys, now this is going to be played after the Grammys, but their Sunday gravity of the Sun? Yes. OK, so and you're kind of a musical expert really with the hip hop stuff pop. But I can handle what kind of research you're going to put into this? Not at all, because it's who you are and what, you know, because it's your passion. And I don't I mean, you're like a salmon at it. I call this business of art. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not that good. I had to listen to some stuff. You know, I really I knew all the artists that were nominated for the major. No, that's not true. I didn't know. Hozier, you know, I had to listen to some stuff, but that's it. You know, and the thing is, if you're it's not that different. You know, in terms of what makes you good at this and what makes me able to go out and do that, isn't that different? If you have a lot of personality and strong opinions and you're able to deliver it on a microphone, there's a place for you to do it. You know, and so I live music. So even if I didn't know the artist, if I spent an hour before listening to it, I can have a good idea of where to go. So it didn't require a ton of research. But listen, I could screw the whole thing up and never get called by you again. So I'll talk to you after Sunday, but I think I'm excited about it. I think it'll be. I think we get it, you know, pretty big role and me doing a lot of talking and it's here's why it's a big role because I'm a big deal in hip hop, but I have not stepped into mainstream, right? And e, thanks to my wonderful agents giving me this opportunity without ever working before just saying, come out here and get on the red carpet, do this thing with us. That's a big deal. Yeah. And you can't, you know, it's it's it's like getting a head into a big promotion and getting a big match for the first time. And they say, Hey, out of the gate, you're you're on a big card. You're going to come out on a pay per view and have a match in the car. That's what essentially what I have. So it's a big opportunity and I can't mess it up. But I think people, I live for those moments you look forward to. Now you grew up in Maryland, right? Yeah. So what was it that really made hip hop resonate with you? And then you knew that this was something that you want to be a part of and you really dug as a musical form. It was going to New York. Well, my my my parents, family's from my dad's family's from Queens, going to New York and listening to the radio with my brother. And I always I always thought I was never the sports guy. I was like, Yeah, music is cool, but I love sports. And then I happened to be getting into it as the culture was evolving and I was in New York listening to the radio. You know, the stories I have from even listening to the radio, I tell people and they can't believe I got I was so lucky to have been around it. And then, but you're 35 now. What was playing back then and how old are you now? I'm 35. I know, but you're 35. Oh, then as a kid, I was eight. When you knew I was, I was. It started at eight or nine. Oh man, what were the acts that were popular back in? Well, listen, I can name a lot, a lot cooler sounding ones that oh, but the ones that were the truth is the one. The first act that got my ear that I was like was Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Parents just understand 1987, right? That song was a monster smash. I'm sure you remember. It's a huge, huge record. Got Will Smith on the map, and that was the beginning. But then my brother started playing me all the other stuff. The Big Daddy Canes. The EPMD is Eric B and Rakim Run DMC. And it was all that. And then I got, you know, it's the same passion I have for anything that I love, which essentially is mostly hip hop and wrestling. Once I get into it, there's no stopping and I often make this joke at the radio station. We always I make a lot of white jokes on the white guy at the radio station. White people have a tendency when we get into stuff too, like we don't just like it peripherally in like a cool way. We want to learn everything like, we have everything. I mean, like, you know, sitting over there in his house has every issue of WWF magazine that was ever made. It's not just like one thing you do the whole thing. So I took hip hop so seriously that when I started getting opportunities after high school, I went to University of Maryland, got the radio station. These guys who wanted to sort of look down their nose at me because I was 18 and I showed up like, I'm ready. They all had to respect me because when the conversation came up, I knew it. I just knew it. I was I. You studied it, I was ready and and that's how it it just spoke to me, it's not going to tell you, it's not unlike you, to be honest, not to kiss your a*s. I actually say this quite regularly. Your persona. What resonated with stone cold Steve Austin with the people is the same thing that resonated with people about hip hop, right N.W.A and stone cold Steve Austin. Ain't that different, right? It's telling people to f off. And as your as your kid, I lived a very Jewish upper middle class regular suburban life hearing. That was fascinating. It was sometimes scary. It was like, What am I listening to? These guys are talking about shooting cops and what? This is nuts. And I just got enthralled. It is the hip hop trend on the way down because I was reading an article and it seemed like you're trying to keep it alive. I thought I was thriving and I thought I was growing. But from what I was reading, it seems like it's going down well. Seem to be true to me, but that's what I read. Business wise, it's it's great. I mean, it is the most important genre of music still. It sells more. Let's be honest. The famous the most famous rappers are kind of like the most famous. I mean, who is more famous than Jay-Z? You know what I'm saying? He's the biggest artist, probably in music, right? Right at the top. So it's doing great what people were worried about for a long time and the role I sort of played. You know, my gimmick in hip in hip hop was like underground champion, right? I love all the real music. But I got to tell you after being around for eight years and I don't I don't know what level of responsibility I have, but I'll take a tiny bit of it. And there's a lot of great music now. There's a lot. I mean, when you say the underground with with respect to hip hop, is that like the punk to rock? Sort of. Here's a great here's a more refined. I'm going to give you I'll give you my favorite wrestling example that I do with hip hop. When I when when CM Punk and Daniel Bryan became the two of the three or four top biggest stars in the company, and I said this to, I told Punk this and he geeked for it. He understood what I said. I said, You guys are like if Mos Def and Talib Kweli became the two most popular rappers in music, right? So I champion those guys. I champion the C.M. Punk, said Daniel Bryan's of hip hop. And some of them, like Kendrick Lamar, have now made it to the John Cena position. And that's very exciting for me, and it's it makes its great business for both of us because that's the music I support. That's where I get my money. That's where I do everything and happens to be. My heart is I've always followed my heart with it. And it just so happens. People told me when I was when I was trying to figure out what to do. I never knew how to be a phony. I couldn't get it. Honest, I'd have a lot more money if I played more mainstream DJ games. I just can't do it. That's not what my heart is. And if you chase a trend, you're always chasing it. But if you sit in your spot and you do your thing, it's eventually going to come around and hit you. And I just kept doing my thing. Real hip hop, great lyrics, great music message, awesome blah blah blah. And sure enough, the first four years I was it hot. It was. It was slim pickings, right? But now here we are in 2015 and a bunch of the rappers were doing well. Childish Gambino, Kendrick Lamar while lay there, all these guys were making really great, thought provoking music. And now I get to have I'm in a great position to be sort of like the Muhammad Ali had. What am I? Why am I speaking out? I'm talking to Stone Cold Steve Austin, the most famous sports reporter of all time, Howard Cosell. I've gotten to be the Cosell for a bunch of these guys, and that's that's awesome. Hey, man, what was the difference between the East Coast down in the West Coast down? Break down for a long story short. You mean the the quickest synopsis of the sale of music? Yes. Well, I mean, you know, East Coast hip hop, which was born in the Bronx originally. It just musically it had a style that we would call like boom bap, heavy drums and bass and laid a lot of samples. James Brown sampled blow up the West Coast thing started and their whole sample bass was different. The stuff that they decided to sample had a totally different feel. They had different producers. You know, it's most the easiest example to give would be like Dre, right? And Dre made everything about Parliament and P-Funk, and that's what they sampled, right? So musically, you have a difference. But then on top of that? But then it would be a little bit more laid back style. Yes. Like the chronic exact or something like Snoop would do. Exactly. So, you know, and so it's funny because a lot of what they were saying out here was, in theory, harder gangsta rap. But the music was also more laid back right in New York. It had heavier drums, boom bap. It was, and the content was still hard. It just there weren't as many quote gangsta rappers. And I think that's where people draw a line like, I'm going to be honest, it ain't none. It's all if you love hip hop. In my opinion, when I meet people and they're like, I'm not in the West Coast, I'm not. I'm like, Dude, good music is good music, right? It's hard. But if you love this, if you love it, I geek out as much, you know, to see Snooper as I do caner Rakim. I mean, maybe not Rakim. He's Rakim is like, I mean, he's like, He's God, but you know, I love it all. And I think that people, it was a media thing and it, you know, a lot of people played into it, you know, in Big In Tupac ended up kind of being kind of being pawns in the overall scheme of things, right? You know what I mean? Guys who are really friends and ended up looking like this, like there was this huge feud, but these guys got along almost their whole careers. They got along. And then things just went a whole different way, and it looked like we had this whole beef. But we haven't had any civil war on a concert next week, or we'll probably this week or people here at All-Star Weekend and we're doing a tip off. It's called the tip off concert matches where Garden Theater headlined by Diddy and Snoop. And no one would ever say boo about that anymore. Back in the day, you would be like, Well, what the hell's going on at this concert? But no, it's that that era is long gone. So what about the deejaying thing and going out and spending records, doing doing whatever you do? You don't do that too much anymore. I do. I got I started. I reinvigorated myself, DJ wise by collecting 45S, the little seven inch records. And when I got into that thing, it was like, Man, it was. It was like finding a whole different style. You know what I'm saying? It would be like if you stumbled and you saw a tape from Mongolia and realized in Mongolia they were doing a whole different wrestling style that wasn't Japanese or Mexican or American was a good thing. And so I got into this new thing, which was intimidating at first, and then I just fell in love with it and it got me back to my my vinyl collecting roots because when you moved to New York, you give up a lot of your stuff. So my record collection has been sitting in my parent's house in Maryland. I've been away from my records, right? The seven inches are small, so I was able to just start grabbing them and then just buying buying. So I just became obsessed. And so like, I'm in town, you know, we're doing this on a Thursday. Tomorrow night, I have a gig in West Hollywood. I'm spending 45. So I like to do it. I'll listen. I'll do a mainstream party and I'll kill it. I can do a great job and play all the mainstream records. Not a problem, but my heart and my passion. If I, I would take less money to go play my 45s and play that music. But how does that coincide with your gig at Hot 97? I deejay my show on Sunday nights. I have a specialty show where I play, where I break all those underground artists. Sunday night at midnight and people can listen to it live on tune in radio. You can you can listen live on seven and that's where I dj that show. But on The Morning Show, I'm basically the wacky Jewish guy, right? My my shtick on The Morning Show has been the very candid, honest guy I've gotten in. I've had feuds with artists because I say things that they don't like, and all the Nicki Minaj thing was interesting because I was just catching up with that. Yeah. Are you alone? You know, we're in a good place now. Yes. Yeah, we're we're on good terms now. It's it's very nice. I was watching that interview between you two and a little stiff and you were talking a lot. I'm like, Man, you let her talk. And finally, she started. She was not too impressed with you. I didn't finish the interview, but I'd like, man, I got to ask him about this. No, you're right. She was stiff. There's no question about it. I was like. But you know, I got an ego crusher. Not at all to me at the time. The Nicki Minaj thing was so good for me. You know what I mean? It was like, I mean, dude, I job to Nicki Minaj. She was a huge star. I was above. You called her out. I mean, but you know, you were just speaking your mind and saying, you know, you were wanting to the true, you know, hip hop stuff. And she kind of was doing to bubblegum stuff. Yes, you can. You can't just call her on it. Didn't know you was feeding her stage? I know exactly. I didn't know how big a deal because I love Nicki. And I got to tell you, though, here's the thing. And I don't expect Nicki to call me up and thank me by any means. And nor should she. But everyone says that this most recent album is her most hip hop and her. US piece of work, and she's selling a ton of records. She's killed. Listen, if Nicki had never done well again, I would have been very upset. But Nicki made it is killing it. You know what I'm saying? She's doing so well that it's a win for all of us. Quite all right. Hey, Nicki, what's happening? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking to him right now. Dynamite is going to rain you up a target. Yeah, yeah, you got it. Yeah, yeah. I don't mean to cut you out, but I got to run. All right. Bye bye. Oh hey, Segway football knocks you big out Washington Redskins. Yes, I am unfortunate guy with a hell of an opinion. Well, and they're not doing so great. But the question I was going to ask you the name should they change a damn name, Robert, when s they should change the name, they should change their? Yes. And I'll tell you why. It's I'm not sure about how people feel about the name, but here's the thing people have to understand. Why do we not know how people feel because we already killed all the Native Americans in the country? So if that's the starting point you're talking about is that America wiped out this group of people. That starting point means this is a sensitive issue. Right. So let's start there. You know, it's the biggest genocide like in history, right? So let's start that. That's a very sensitive thing and the reason you don't know any Native Americans because they're all gone. And that how tragic that is. So that being said, I don't think all Native Americans are offended, but I think some are offended, right? And more importantly, the world we live in is the world we live in. And Dan Snyder is never going to change that. So you can fight this fight as long as you want and make yourself look worse and worse and make the team get more and more hated. Or you can get in front of get in front of it and do it because they're never going to keep the name. It's impossible. And we suck. I'll do anything to change. Could we could change? I would rather we change sports. When when is your earliest recollection? What is your earliest recollection of when this topic was brought up? Because what it only seems to me and I'm in a time warp, dude, I got slapped in the head was steel chairs for a living. I'm kind of, but it only seems, as I've read, the amount you bled during the Bret Hart match alone. I worry about it. Yeah, I don't talk about your love for because I worry about you. I still worry about you because of that. Oh, I'm I'm good. I'm 100 percent good. I just like to play it up for the sake of drama and radio. You know, I know we're in the business, OK? I'll do the business. OK, so I don't know. That's a good question. It listen, it always got mentioned. The first time it really came up became a thing was 20 years ago, but that it became this kind of thing you're talking about in the last five years. And don't get me wrong, I'm a Redskins fan. That annoyed me. I was like, Why is this coming out of nowhere? And now, why are all the snarky writers all acting like they care about this thing? It drives me nuts. OK? I'm not, so I'm an odd position in Washington because it's there's very distinct feelings on this issue and it's a big deal in Washington. And I'm weird because I am more of a diehard Redskins fan. I'm a lunatic, OK, I'm an absolute lunatic. I'll drop the biggest name drop of all time, but it's true. I talked to RG three on a regular basis. I'm Pioglitazone love these guys, love this team, want them to win more than anything. But the fact of the matter is, and this may sound crazy. All right. And I'm not spiritual or religious, particularly, we have bad energy around this team. You can watch what's happened. All right. From Sean Taylor's passing on a much bigger level to RG three, breaking his leg on a much smaller level right to the implosion this season, which was such an embarrassment, the team has terrible energy around it. So in my opinion, as a fan, I want a damn reset. I want to hit the reset button. And in my opinion, if they went out there and said, we're keeping the colors, we're changing the name to the Washington Warriors, we'll still sell throwback Redskins stuff you can get, which I think people would probably accept. Just do it. Get ahead of this thing and change this thing and make it positive and get get your team out there looking. You just beat out Washington Warriors. Is that in consideration? That's out there. That's the one I like actually in bad. It's not bad. It's not bad. It sticks with the Native American theme, the helmet. They just change the logo to an arrowhead instead of the face. It's not that hard. It's case the city got the arrowhead man. You can't pronounce the throwback arrowhead throwback arrowhead. I'm Colin Bone. I've gotten it right now. 316 Khimich St. Peter Rosenberg The Steve Austin show the city lost in June. The Steve Austin show, Steve Austin show Abdulmanap, Peter Rosenberg, nice, you big guy, Washington Redskins. Yes, I am unfortunate guy with a hell of an opinion. Well, and they're not doing so great as RG three doing, man. I mean, you know, a little bit of a confidence loss toward the end of the season. You know, him and Gruden more get along so well. Where does he stand over there? He's an he's an interesting guy because my impression of him as a human being is so vastly different than what you read. OK. If you were to meet him, Texas guy, you'd already like him. I know that. But well, I know your military background cla*s. Good. I love him, class kid. But I mean, you know, Manny Shanahan offense put him in harm's way so much. He really got beat up and didn't get that bad leg and then tried to come back too soon or play through it. And I was like watching his kid, you know, play with bravery. This heart's trying to lead this team and just getting smoked. And it just hasn't been the same since it has not had the injuries bad. And then on top of that, mentally, you know, he lost it to a certain extent. But there's a bigger problem at play, in my opinion, which is that over and over again, they're talking about this disconnect with him in the rest locker room, right? And that this team and that one of the reasons they were able to make some of the stupid decisions they did like when they injected Colt McCoy as the starter over Robert Griffin the third. That's because you don't have a team that's willing that that wants him. They were excited Colt was playing. And by the way, I love Colt Culture Redskin, and he played with heart, and I've got to say about all three quarterbacks. They all were very respectful of each other, and when their number got called, they all played when the rubber didn't get called. They all slapped the other one in the a*s and stood there and support each other. And I love that. But the fact of the matter is your whole team should have been saying no. Colts great. But look at the talent. Robert Griffin, the third, no matter if he's struggling or not, we got to see this thing through and they didn't do that. And why didn't they do that? So like, you know, I know Robert, but I don't know him well enough, although at some point I'm pretty forward. I probably will tell him, how's it going with the locker room? Because he's got it. And it's not because he's he's the best dude. This guy, when you're in a room, is the most charismatic leader. He's such a great dude. He is. He has it. If he doesn't make it in this, let me tell you something. If it doesn't work out next year and he ends up that Robert Griffin third will be fine. Don't you worry, like he's going to be on TV. He's going to be a politician. He's going to be some. He's a star. But he needs to communicate better with that locker room and make them love him. But for me, as a Redskins fan, what? Here's my feeling on it. Robert has struggled. He's made mistakes. Some people complain that he took too many endorsement deals. I think that's I mean, listen, I don't know about taking too many endorsement deals, man. If it's a good opportunity and it's a great sponsor, you've got to jump on it. You've got to get why you can. And as we learned after his injury, who knows how long you have, so everyone will tell you, Oh, Andrew, luck didn't take any his rookie year. Andrew Luck wasn't getting the same offers Robert Griffin. The third was getting all right. Oh, no, they're not the same charisma. It's a different kind of thing. So I don't think that was the downfall. Again, you know, I want to wonder, you know, you're close to the franchise and I am, but you know, a guy going out and doing gigs. I mean, if he's got his nose in the playbook and he's doing everything he can. But you know, my my biggest thing was, you know, early on those first two years, man, tell him to get on the ground, don't take those hits. Because man, it's like, you know, we're going to see what happens with Johnny Manziel. You know, he was able to be really shifty and open space when he played for an arm. And a straight line, turns out, is not that fast. He was just so elusive at the collegiate level. Everybody said, Hey, man, nobody can touch this guy. Well, same with RG three. I called him to. I picked him when he was at Baylor to pick the Heisman to win Heisman. And he did. He did. And I saw it coming. I just think he's a premium athlete. But you know, God, I got to coach him up and tell him, Dude, get on the ground. Save your body. These guys do. If you're wearing a quarterback jersey, if you play the quarterback position, they're coming to smoke your a*s. And you know, the window is closed on, you know, you can't hit a QB late. I mean, there's so many things, even if they're sliding, you can tap them. So if you're if you got a stand up shot on a guy, especially if he's running, they're going to try to. And he and he loved and I know, but you know, you can't you can't do it. You've only got. So just like you only get so many bumps left in your tank. In football, you have so many hits, man guys teeing off on your nose, guys. It's a whole different game than even 10 years ago. The guys are bigger, stronger, faster and you always had two guys or ahead of the curve curve your Reggie white people like that who were just premier. But these guys these days just, oh, JJ was. But and also the equipment has got so good that, you know, there's a trade off because the equipment is so good. The guys are just going, you know, like in a day in the game, the way it spread out. Guys are in open space making collisions rather than being in a close confines with the run game. That's right. So the evolution of the game with the equipment and then you still got human beings. And the bottom line is, you know, some of the head to head stuff when the brain hits the back side of the skull inside the skull, it is what it is. You put all the power and you own around it, but that's just a thought, and that's a stop. You see the guy get lit up on the guy doing what was it was it was a cliff avril who got the concussion against the Patriots. You? Every day, I mean, it's just kind of a sideways hit. It didn't look like. Yeah, that's right. Listen, he's Roberts got to figure that out, Roberts. I'm about Robert Griffin third. He is a true fighter, refusing to give up and the winner. He's a winner by nature and some. He's got an incredible arm. He's got an incredible arm. So they just got to like, he's just got to work. So when they when they started saying, Oh, he can't run this offense, blah blah blah. That's what drove me the most nuts. If you're saying the guy doesn't know the offense, our season was lost. Don't put in a career third stringer or second Stringer, but let Robert get the snaps he needs to get so you can figure out whether this thing's working or not. Are you going to move on? But you don't. Don't just put him on the bench. The guy's got to get snaps, he's got to get reps. And you know what? This is the most healthy coming into this season will be the most healthy he's ever been. Let's take a look and see what he can do. It's his last year in the contract. We'll see if he can do, but I love the kid. I hope he figures it out, man. I think he's who today. Ayers still Gruden coaching right? Gruden's coaching. He brought in a new GM whose name I always forget this guy who built Seattle. OK, what about the offensive coordinator? Offensive coordinator is the same as last season. OK? Wait, hold on. I'm so off in my arm. We've made so many changes. We brought in a new O-line coach that we got from Dallas. We brought in like a new D-line coach. They've made like four changes, right? And now I can't remember if we switch coordinators. Well, look, if I make this, why you got to have a hip hop mix interim, it says, do Jagran head coach Joe Berry, defensive coordinator. I didn't even know that. Yeah, right? OK. And yes, Sean McVay is still our offensive coordinator. He was the old tight ends coach who they moved up, but we got to listen to a lot of issues. I'll tell you that. I haven't spoken to Mark Henry in three months now because I was dodging his phone calls because of the kind of season the Cowboys had this year. So are you going to lay and doing regular? Well, he did. He does. I might still have the voicemail on every voicemail as he goes. You don't have to duck my calls, man. I just want to say hi. But I mean, the cowboys are watching them when you're a Redskins fan and you see them. And not only were the Cowboys winning game, but I got to tell you the Cowboys were pretty good this year. Yeah, they had a hell of a season and Romo had a great season. And I mean, the running back was insane. DeMarco Murray DeMarco was out of his mind. Well, commanders to see are they're going to sign DeMarco Murray. Dez Bryant and try to do both. It's so hard to pick there because of the receiver. You get more longevity. But if DeMarco is running the way he runs, he's more valuable than Dez, no matter what Desmond do, in my opinion. But Dez, do you want to lock him down for the rest of his career? You don't want him playing against you, especially if he's been playing with you? No, the way he's been playing, the fact that he's grown up a little bit, he's not the problem he used to be. You don't want to go through his his tough, annoying years and then not reap the benefits of his good. You got bigger problems. What about Josh Gordon? As of late, that just got suspended for an entire year? Yeah, dude. I mean, Josh, I know you don't list the Bobcats, but if you get a friend, it does get your a*s. Some help. Hey, man, I've seen a lot of your interviews with the boys and we were trying to talk on your show. We never got a chance. We're going to do what we're going to do it. Yeah, we will. But what was your first memories of the business and what got you into the pro wrestling scene? I mean, listen, I'm a regular, God fearing American and Hulk Hogan and said, You want that religious want to go? Which one is it? I'm a red blooded American. How about the Hulk Hogan? No Hulk Hogan love in American art and if to be an eight year old in 1987 on the East Coast? All right. And which was, by the way, I'm sure many people know this. Many people don't. But Washington, D.C., which is originally where Vince Senior was. Yes. You're talking about a prime territory, right? So we were a true market for for the WWF, and Hogan in that time was so ridiculously amazing and huge over. I mean, it's over. I often talk about biggest pops. We get the biggest pops so like we can. I'm not going to get too far ahead. But so like, for example, the reason I say and you don't have to chime in here, but the reason that you are one notch bigger than rocky is because of the pop you got to me was the the biggest pop I've seen besides Hogan Hogan's Pop in 1987. It wasn't even a pop. It was absolute pandemonium. I think the difference is in those 10 years is the fact that in 1987 there was still a little bit of realness in the business that still existed. So the energy he got in terms of being a real life hero to people, it was insane. Now that said, even eight years old, I don't think I thought it was real. I don't think I thought it was a legitimate competition. I'm pretty sure I like when Macho Man took the bell to Ricky the Dragon steamboat throat. I'm pretty sure I knew it was for fun, but I loved it. I was it. I just thought, How old were you in 87? I was eight. Oh man, see, when I was when I was, I was flipping channels and Edna and I came across Houston wrestling. Someone had a clown. Does it? Does you have? Beating his a*s off security guard was strolling around the same Euston Coliseum Smoke-Filled Arena, just a row for a barricade. Dusty bleeding like a stuck pig. My wife's over. I mean, my mother is over and reading her magazine and Dusty's is bleeding like crazy. And I told my mother, I said, God dang it, mom. I said, Why didn't that security guard help Dusty? Well, I've got to tell you, though, she's trying to keep the damn fans out. That's his job to keep the fans gathering. But I'm like, Hey man, go help Dusty. I was, I bought it, but it looked. But even then, from when you were watching 10 years before I was watching that still look to me markedly more real, right? Because we're talking about right by eighty seven, it's still looked huge and had a different thing. I'm not saying maybe, maybe I wasn't as smart as I thought I was, but I wasn't one of those people who says, like, I cried when so-and-so lost. I was just really into it. And, you know, I was. So I started watching every Saturday, you know, and I remember nothing more than I would check that TV week, every day, every week in the Washington Post. The paper would come, how about that? They opened and I would look to Saturday night, 11:30, praying that instead of Saturday Night Live, it would say Saturday night's main event, right? That is all I wanted to see. And when you were sitting in front of that TV and they would say Saturday Night Live will not be seen this week because the following NBC sports presentation I mean, me and my brother were just out of our minds. It was. I get goosebumps talking about it now. I just there is a joy that it brought me that, you know, that still brings me to this day. Now, the current product doesn't get me necessarily quite to that level, but I don't know. But it's because of that or the fact that you're 35, 35 years old. If I was, if I was eight now, I'm sure I'd feel the same way. But I mean, I got to tell you, that's why I'm the biggest. I'm the world's biggest mark for the network because I'll never get through everything that's on there, right? And I love I love watching the stuff from my childhood, and I love learning about the territories that I don't know. Do you ever watch the Tuesday night Titans? Oh, Mad Men as well? That's one of my favorite things. I mean, you know, Vince donor shtick, you know, he just, I love it. I got to tell you, I think it was the best. I think it's Vince at his best. I do, too on camera. Yeah, this this isn't popular always, but I've been talking about it. I do a wrestling podcast as well called Cheap Heat on Grantland and me and my partner, Dave Shoemaker. We always talk about this. I don't love Vince on commentary. His he was loud man. He was good in doses on commentary. I really believe that now. No, no. You see, that's what I said. And doses. And also, you know, it's funny because when you sit and talk about pro wrestling, you know, I've got a good friend, Zack, while the guitar player for Black Label Society, you know, he is the biggest ultimate warrior fan in the world. And hey, man, I respect Warrior for being a hell of a top draw. But when I look at the work, whole different thing. So his subjective opinion a little bit different than mine. Of course, you know, so you know the mindset of someone. It's all because if you say, OK, give me the top five pro wrestlers in history now we talking just on your favorite show, we're going to talk box office because we were just talking favorites. It's all about what you like specifically, because what you like doesn't make it to anybody else. Somebody else's cup of tea is going to be completely different. Listen, and that's why, of course, there are things I loved about Vince. But here's the hard part when you're on the network now and you're flipping through watching old stuff and you hear Gorilla as your as your babyface, OK, he is the he's the best ever. Do it. Yeah, he's the best ever. Do it. And so going and some people would disagree with that. Who I want to talk to them, who could say there's anyone better than Gorilla? I agree, but I'm just saying, go ahead. So, so so. That said, Vince was cool as a commentator and he was great with you as Mr. McMahon. Right? However, when he was playing the sort of sticky host on Tuesday night, Titans and dude, you get a chance to watch interviews with people like SD Jones, people you would never get to hear from. Yeah, I love it. I love Tuesday night titans. But also, I mean, the big thing of that was like, You've played evil Mr. McMahon against me and, you know, the owner of the company. And it never was acknowledged, really, until we started up that angle, right? And I think it was so my promos, it said he was the one actually pulling the strings to the puppets that were running the show. But Hillman Tuesday night Titans is really who he is. This is over the top larger than life guy who happens to be probably a genius. And, you know, he knew all the pieces because he opened all the pieces together and there was a spin master and the end and call for what it is the world's biggest wrestling fan. You know, what was it like? That's the thing that gets caught up when people, you know, when all the nerds like to complain about wrestling all the time, which is fun? People get caught up with Vince. Guys, don't forget there's not a man who loves this thing more than Vince McMahon. So when you see him sitting with a wrestler? I was watching one the other day. They interviewed someone and I'd bring up his name, except I can't remember it. I didn't know who the hell it was. It was a guy I didn't remember. It was one dude who I mentioned on my podcast recently, this Asian dude who they said was Korean, but I looked him up. He wasn't Korean in real life. Come on. He had no. He had a run for cover, he had to run for a couple of years. The point is there's so many guys on that show. They had four or five guests a week. And it's and Vince is passionate with all of them, right? And he's working. You could tell, but it's good. It's really good. It just has this energy about him. And he kept it forward in the way he joked with Alfred Hayes, like his look inside jokes that they would laugh about what I like. You know, when you brought a gorilla monsoon, I like him and Bobby the brain. And I also loved Jesse Ventura thrown and thrown in that mix, of course. Oh, gorilla, Jesse, so you premier. Here's the thing about commentary in that time. The thing that works always is gorilla. If you are a gorilla and Jesse, yeah, gold, gold, gorilla and Bobby. The best combination in the history, in my opinion of All-Time, right? Bobby Bobby, the Brain Heenan If he ever, if you ever listen to the podcast is to hear this, that guy is one of the, in my opinion, never worked in this business. I just love it is to me, one of the most talented people to ever set foot in the whole thing, ever in everything, could work, could work and manage. And man, dude, I mean, just to say that you can really master one of those is a feat in and of itself. But he could do anything. You asked him to do anything. He could have been famous if he had just gone to Hollywood and tried to be a comedic actor. I think he carried on that. I've been good at anything. So when you get. But the point that the common thread there to me is guerrilla guerilla allowed everyone to be good and and you know, and I watch these days. It's one of my biggest problems with it. And again, sitting next, you want to say I spend a lot of time around wrestling. And in doing so, I have learned to have a great respect for the way I talk about it when I'm talking to people who are actually in the business, OK? So I don't pretend to actually know everything about everything. But as a fan? When I watch these days, commentary doesn't do to me what it's supposed to do. I don't. Who is the baby face that I'm supposed to really like and identify with? And I know they want Michael Cole to be just the voice of everything. They run on that thing. But you got to have someone who I love and isn't shilling to me. Stop shilling me the network nonstop and call the damn match and let me know who's good and who's bad. We watch last night with you. We were like, we were pretty excited to come see you today. So we're sitting around last night. We watch you vs. Brett Wright. What better to watch when you're going to go see Stone Cold Steve Austin his house, right? So we're watching that match and as it ends. Jim Ross, who I love as a person and an amazing professional. He he's saying they're starting to boo. The crowd is booing Bret Hart. All of a sudden 70000 people are cheering stone cold, Steve. Well, guess what? That lets me know it's changing. Bret about to be bad. Austin's about to be good. That's where we're going. Yes, I don't think that happens. And sometimes not everybody gets that. So you've got to have that reinforcement and that's actually what's happening. And right, a lot of people get it, but not everybody does. And when Jim Lee would lay in and he was the perfect guy to be, you know, in front of the mic when I came around because he was a guy that knew how to talk about me in almost a backhanded compliment way. And I don't know why these guys are everybody's cheering stone cold. You know, he's senses he's that nobody going to come up with the Texas rattlesnake. Just don't go. Don't go, don't go. All of that stuff. But going back to your comment on the commentary, the only word I would have to say to your comments would be Hallelujah. All right, folks, that wraps up my conversation with Peter Rosenberg today. We're going to pick it up this Thursday on Unleashed as we talk everything pro wrestling as I shoot the breeze with Peter Rosenberg, a guy that I've been looking forward to talking to for a long time. He's interviewed a lot of the boys up there in New York City. When the guys come to town, he's always just full of questions, has a wealth of information about the business, highly opinionated as he says, and a real smart dude. And I had a great time hanging out with him and his buddies over the 03:16 Gimmick Street Studios My house. Peter Rosenberg. Thanks for coming by the house. I hope you had a good time at the Grammys. I missed because I was watching a broken skull challenge here at the Broken Skull Ranch. The toughest, baddest, coolest show on television. And you can catch a broken skull challenge every Sunday on CMT. And don't forget to check out Redneck Island this Thursday, if I'm not mistaken. We got the finale coming. See who's going to win $100000? Don't miss Redneck Island on Thursdays Thursdays on CMT. Four Wrap is whole thing up. I told you, people are going to bring back a word of the day and I'm bringing back in word of the day right now. And since just the family friendly version, word of the day is nincompoop nincompoop is the word of the day. When's the last time you used that word? What's the definition of a nincompoop? I'm glad you asked because I have the urban dictionary right in front of me, and I'm about to give you what it means. It means a silly no brain for a silly, no brain phone. I'm going to use this in a sentence for you. If you're driving in your automobile or any kind of vehicle on the road today and you failed to use your indicator, your blinker, your turn signal, whatever you want to call it, when you switch lanes, you are an absolute and complete nincompoop. Only a nincompoop would change lanes without using their indicator. 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