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Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe
01:17:27 6/7/2022

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Learn more about the widest range of electrified vehicles at Hyundai USA dot com. Hey everybody ! You're listening to Kaitlyn Bristowe's podcast Off the Vine. Take it away, brie wine. Lots of wine may be on the internet. Let's go. Hey, Ramon Pino ready for the show? Everyone's welcome. So come on in because TV at the bottom began a. Welcome to Off the Vine, I'm your host, Kaitlyn Bristowe, and you know, they say good things come to those who wait. So even though this episode was a little late today, it is so worth it because I have my good friend Becca Kufrin and her new fianc. That's what my series says. I'll go, Hey, Siri, call my fiance goes Colleen Finca. So, yeah, her fiancé Tommy, who she proposed to patriarchy, who never heard of them. Anyways, I get all the dirty deeds about the proposal, and we celebrate with a few glasses of our favorite wines, our own. Obviously, Thomas isn't the only boss a*s b***h. You'll see what I mean later. So cheers, Buenos. Enjoy my chat with the cute and happy engaged couple. Stretch it out, Tommy. There she is now. Cheers, cheers, everybody. I guess I am going to cry just seeing you guys. I have to say, I miss seeing this face. I miss hearing your voice. It's good to be back. It's probably too soon, Emily. Say this if you cry, it might be because the Edmonton Oilers get swept. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm falling long to the game. I'm putting good energy to them. I know I'm going all right now. They're going to turn it around. Stay strong. You couldn't do without Air Canada. Couldn't do without you, though. Kaitlyn Bristowee and Go Sports, go sports. I actually just got a hat that says, Go sports, I'm literally I've got the score up here just in case anything crazy happens. But I'm you. Yeah. See, we're on the same page, so we can. Well, we're going to be celebrating you too this whole time, but maybe we'll be drowning my sorrows in a loss. Or maybe we'll be cheering because they're winning. Either way, it's going to be a great time. It's all free drinks all around. Either way, we're celebrating tonight. Oh my gosh, I am. I mean, the last time I saw you two was when was it? Was it after the final rose of the last one when we all went out for drinks? And we're right the time where you hosted solo and you crushed it know an all time greatest performances that this world has ever seen. Yeah, I do think that I was the last time, you know what? You needed to hype me up there because you really brought me down the whole Oilers thing. So thank you for turning the beet around. Thank you. I had so much fun doing that. There's there's that. There's there's give and take and everything that was in December. It's been a while. I know. But let me say that we were sitting there all having drinks and you looked at my ring and you said, Tommy, take notes on the ring. Now, in the turn of events, as you say, the the tables were turned and I thought, Oh, not me. I could not be more obsessed with this move because I always say, like Becky's such a progressive woman and like, I feel like you're just so inspirational in that way where I honestly would have loved to do that. What was that? Was this a huge surprise? I don't want to just jump right into it, but yes, I do. I can't talk about anything else until I know everything. It was, I mean, yeah, the surprise of a lifetime for him. He had zero clue which, and that's what I wanted it to be. I mean, we talked about getting engaged. And so that wasn't the surprising part. But he had no idea. Even when he showed up to the whole set up, the night it happened, he made a joke and he's like, Oh, are you proposing to me tonight? Like, totally joking. And then it got wash out of his mind, like literally 90 percent of the time we were there for the proposal. I know there was a proposal, no idea. And even that last 10 percent was a little like I had no clue. I was popping the question, asking him, literally saying, Thomas, I love you. I want to spend my life with you. Will you marry me? He's laughing. Like, is for real. He, like, didn't even he thought I was joking, right? It was like one of those blown away moments. I mean, I spent 30 years of life on this planet, and not once have I ever had a singular thought go through my mind. Oh yeah, I'm going to one day become engaged when my fiancee proposes to me, right? Yeah, you probably had a plan in your head. All right. I still have a plan in my head. That's one of the things that also just took me by. It was amazing. It literally was. It just swept me off my feet. I didn't have any other emotions other than just pure joy. That express itself is maniacal laughter. I mean, ten minutes. I mean, Kaitlyn, I feel like you all people. You can identify with that. I did the exact same thing. I like just evil tackled for like a good 20 minute actually for a good like week. I think I just tackled to myself, I will say, because I listen to the podcast when Jason popped the question for you and it was so hilarious because I mean, like, you could just tell your shots, you know, you had no idea it was such a pure reaction. And I honestly think the only other thing that I've ever seen that be your reaction to getting propose is hit was his you have it. So you would all hear Kaitlyn. She's like, Oh, your moment was so special. I enjoyed it so much. Hers was better, but they were both so funny because it was all recorded. Yours unfortunately wasn't, and I wish it was, but it was just they were both hilarious. I was going to say on that same brother, Kaitlyn Brisson, we're doing something right. I feel like I get that like shock value of like, you're like, Is this happening? And you're just so overcome with emotion that you don't even understand what's coming out of your mouth or your facial expressions or like what you're doing with your body like you just are like. So in the moment, and so just like overwhelmed with joyful emotion that you've probably never even experienced before, that you're like, This is an out of body moment, and I just always see you too. You're always doing romantic things like you're. So I feel like it probably didn't throw you off that you're having like a frickin picnic by the water or. Whatever you were doing, like, what did that back, oh, guys, somebody questions, were you s**tting your pants? Like, Were you so nervous or were you like, I thought this? No. OK, so up until that day, I mean, because I had it planned for at least a month and a half, so I knew what I was going to do when it was the time frame of when I was going to happen and I was so set. And I always thought, like when people get engaged, why aren't you know? For the most part, why is the guy is so nervous, right? Obviously, now you going to spend your life with somebody, hopefully by that point, you're in love. You know, it's a done deal. She's going to say yes, right? But I will say that day. I don't know if we've talked about the nervy poops on the podcast or if we have or haven't. I know what you're talking about. It's such a thing. And that day, knowing he was still going to say yes, I was still so nervous and anxious. I don't think I slept the night before because I'm running through everything in my head of like, totally, hey, what? Like, what if he says this or does this? I'm just like trying to prep for everything, and I was so nervous like that day I did not leave the bathroom. I was so freaking out and poops like literally this thing. And and there was one point where I knew I needed alone time because I had like certain things I wanted to plan. And so I kept trying to kick him out of the house and he would not leave. And so I was getting so frustrated. I'm like, Just leave, don't run outside. But yeah, I was. I was freaking out that day. I just picture you like sitting on the toilet with a glass of champagne like nerves in like feeling it that way and then going out the other end, just being like, OK, what am I going to do? Just like, stay calm and like hydrate as it's all me love the fact I looked down at like the clock ticker. It was slightly over five minutes. We started talking about poop. And quite frankly, that's that's the exact timeline I. I was like, Hey, how soon do you think something to be mentioned? It only was Kaitlyn. She's the only person I feel comfortable with, and I still get rid of it. What about you talking about? I have to go talk to a man about a horse like I randomly got randomly. Just laugh about that. Like, I'll be sitting here reading something. I've got to go talk to a man about it. We also had a poster that I got from the farmer's market that I wanted to wear, and we can't find it. And so I just be the perfect time to be rocking the horse sweater. I'm sure these are all the gripping details you were wanting. You know what? I feel like anything goes on this podcast, which is why I love doing this because I'm like, we can go from like the most romantic conversation to talking about s**t in a matter of five minutes. And I'm like, This is very on brand for me. Like, it makes sense. So it's real well, and I always get the nervous poops and I've talked about that. I have Kelly Osborne on my podcast and I told her I s**t my pants before talking to her because I was so nervous and she was like, How was it on Dancing With the Stars? That sounds like the worst combination of all time, like jumping to a plea. I think that's what is called, and I was like, Yes, that happened. Actually, I can't believe that's never happened on live television like people have actually. I think Suni Lee got like sick to her stomach and had to run off stage once. But I would always go to this one handler and I would be like, Take me to the upstairs bathroom. And every time if we got a good score, I'd be like, because you let me s**t before I went out there. Imean, yes, if you jump higher, it's exactly I would like release and then I'd go out there and put on my best performance. And so that's what you did. You shake your brains out. You're so nervous and then you went and you gave your best performance. That's not the most beautiful sentiment of all time. I was never going to look at it. Just give me a second, guys. OK, vinyls, PSA for you. You don't need a summer getaway to transport yourself. You can book yourself a smooth escape with the wax experts at European Wax Center. I just love a European wax center. A fresh wax transports you to a smooth state of mind where you feel effortlessly confident. And I know I always feel so great when I have a fresh wax. 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I was like, I just need to make sure I get those words out. Yes. And I'm like, Wait, you asked his mom, because didn't you say somewhere that he needs to ask your mom one hundred percent before he asked, So you again just went to his mom? And what was her reaction? She like, Of course. My gosh, what's she like? Are you sure you want to do this? Like, what was it? Just like worse? No, she's yeah. She was like, Oh honey, you don't even need to ask, Is you already part of this family? But you know, we love you. So that was, yeah. And she's so like his mom is such a badass she could be thinking of twenty seven different things and have like a thousand different conversations all at once. So she started talking about, like her house, that they're working on how she lost her cat, like everything. So yeah, I mean, I've already felt like I'm part of the family, and I hope I think you feel like you're part of mine. But I just wanted to make my basis because I was like, It's not fair for him. You know, I keep pushing. He has to give my mom's blessing. I was like, I got to do the same. Like, I want an equal 50 50 partnership here, so I got to do it. I was like, I can't go into this, not on the right foot. So right. Meanwhile, my dad is floating around in the ether doing Lord knows what during that. But my favorite thing of that, because my dad, she has my mom. And then when you add that we're getting, I got engaged. I your pops, I'm getting married, he goes, Who's the dude? And is Becca? No, no, it's not without skipping a beat and I started cracking. Or, you know, Becca propose he's like, what? Yeah. He loved it as well. And it's been. It's been awesome. Yeah. And his dad, I mean, he's military. He's like this very early, dude. I don't know. Like if he's a big hugger. But when we told him and he saw me, he hugged me and like, pulled me into the tightest hug. All my dad that I was not expecting. It's like he grabbed me and hugged me. And then they pulled me in tighter. And then he gave me a hug and I was like, OK, I'm part of the fam. It's a fish. Oh, that is a fish. You got to know. So I don't know. Again, A.J. and you can ask for from the from the producers. Yeah, wow. Yeah, that would that would really do it for me. If I got a nugget from a colonel, I'd be like, He loves me. I man, I don't anymore than you, Thomas. The last time I got to know him, I was going to say I was going to say Little little Thomas. Oh, I want to know, why can't it be me? Just tell me why you're crying. I'm not crying. You're crying. How did you get the proposal? In all fairness, my mom probably likes you more than me, so it's kind of even. Your mom is just one of my favorite humans of all time. Like your family's just must be so happy for the two of you because I think we all knew like, Oh, this seems to be it for you. Like you guys just fit together so well. You have such a fun loving, happy relationship. I've seen you in person like I was expecting this. I just love that it was not what I was expecting at the same time. And I just think that's so you. It's so new to propose, and I just love every second of it. I wish you had it on film because I want to make it into a movie you should always issue if you could. If you saw the proposal on film, you would just like feel bad for this oblivious man just walking around clueless what it should be. This is. Oh, I thought this was a wine photo shoot the entire time, because that's what I told him to get in there. I want it because I wanted him to dress well. Yeah, I'm just so up on time. So I could be like, It's for Borden's photo shoot. You just knew I answered. Honestly, I asked him to marry me, and he still thought it was for the wine, as he put it on my phone. And it took right into the last final seconds. So I was like, Oh, this isn't a wine photo shoot. Yeah, the photographer was already gone. The picnic was packed up and he realized, Oh, this is real. Yeah, oh, that's so sweet. Wait, I just had something. And I need to say before it goes, Don't let it go, Kaitlyn. Oh, Becca, did you always know that this was what you wanted to do? Or was this like a spur of the moment? Like, actually, I think I'm going to propose? Yeah, it was. It was more spur of the moment. So for the longest time, I always just thought he was going to because we had talked about rings that I would like, and he kind of had an idea of things that I would enjoy. And going back to the precedent of having to get the hope diamond like Kaitlyn Bristowee has on her finger. So I will. Thanks, Peter, thanks for that. My bank account, thank you. Every time I ask me about what I would like, you know, compare it to yours like, you know, the one size or like everything. And I'm like, you know, I like Kaitlin's, but it was really. I went into my jeweler. I'm like, Yeah, so I need something. You may or may not need a wheelbarrow to carry around your wrist. It's just like, Oh, you saw Kaitlyn Bristowee. You saw Kaitlyn Bristowee. Yeah. Let us know. I, um, I didn't really start actually considering it and like planning it until I was on tour. It was in April, and I finally got to the point where I was like, Look, I love this man. We already know we want to spend our lives together. And, you know, coming from the show, things aren't on your terms. When you got engaged in the past, it was all up to this huge productions. What's like you had no say your partner at the time had no say. And I was like, I've done that twice. I don't want to do that again. And not to say that that's how Thomas would be because it would be completely different. But like, I've never been in this position where I can decide and I can make it super special for my partner and just show them I want to meet them halfway and put all that I can into this relationship in the future. So I was like, I was talking to one of my best friends who used to work on the show, and I was just. And she knows Thomas super well, and we were like, get like, screw the gender norms of like, what's traditional? Like, we love each other. And I was like, I think it's bada*s. I think it's red, so why not go for it? And so, yeah, her and I just sort of talking and putting it together and and I really wanted to. Just the one thing that I wanted to be cognizant of the entire time was I knew he had something special planned and I don't I never wanted to take away from his moment because I'm sure also like as a man and a partner, that's something really special that he's right thought about. And so when I went into it, I just wanted to make that very clear. Like, I don't want to take away from you and what you have planned. I want to add to that and I want to meet you halfway and be 50 50. And so like, this isn't to steal your thunder, but I just want you to know that I love you and I'm in this position where I want to spend my entire life with you. I want to, you know, go all in to just like you would for me. And so, yeah, I shouldn't be such a Monica from Friends Move. And also, I think that's so romantic that like you, you're not like you said you don't want to take that away. And like, who frickin decided how many centuries ago that it's, you know, the man that has to ask the woman. And then if you actually dive deep into our marriage even started. It's like about a man owning a woman like, we're past that guy's property, like in all that he owns. And you know what? So in that same vein, if you had to barter for me, how many flocks of sheep would you have been willing to trade equal pay? And I love this for you. I would want to trade. Wait, so this is me giving it to your family. Yes, you my. You approached my parents and you say, I want to offer you. I want your son or your son. I want your son in exchange for. Well, what do I have? Two dogs now I'm keeping them was already mine. You know, knowing your family, I would trade for food, so I would say I would give you burrito for five years. I'm worth five years of burritos to you. That's a lot of burritos. Not afraid of love. I would buy, you know, I would maybe give them a nice little goat. Oh, fiber. Five years of burritos and a goat. Mm hmm. I mean, you can't put a value on a goat. I mean, they're so cute. You can do yoga with them. The acronym is great. Go, please. Yeah. The gift that keeps on giving. It really is. Wow, that's you know what? That's more than I thought you were going to offer five years a burrito and a goat. That's love. Make foolish not to know what. I wouldn't even use it with the Chipotle gold card. I would buy that s**t for them. We do have one of those. No. On Friday. Yes. So when she was saying, I take away from my plan, the plan was just like, just engage to or Chipotle. Because I mean, obviously, I would love it. I mean, I have to ask though, do you still have a plan like, do you still want to do that? Is this a secret? Are you like, maybe I will. Maybe I won't. Are you like? Yeah, and I've I've a plan like already fully detailed the i's or cross the t's are dotted, and I knew exactly how I was going to go. And then, like it was, it was great. I picture myself just driving this steady car down a one way freeway, just like everything's good. And all of a sudden she goes zooming by me. I'm like, What the hell is this? I'm still on that road. I have everything planned out. It's going to be. It's going to blow her away. She's going to be happy. She can be excited. Oh my gosh. See, that's so special. No, I'm like s**t. If I could redo mine, I would do it first. I'm so competitive. I'm like, Let's do it first. Yeah, but. Here's here's the thing, there's there's no saying that you can't do that, you still can't do it, that's a good idea. I still could. Yeah, it's there. No. So that's you know what? I'm competitive, but I'm not a Thunder stealer, and I am going to let you have that moment because that is awesome. And it's just I just love it, and I feel like I love that you both have a plan that you're both just like, Hey, we want to spend the rest of our lives together. So here's what it is like. How how special did that feel for you? Once you realize, like once it soaked in and once you're like, Holy s**t, it's not like I'm just choosing her, like she's chosen me and like the ultimate flattery. Yeah, because I ton of mixed reaction from it. My DMs from friends, I'm sure, and one of my close friends who I think is funny as all get out, he goes, All right, I got to know how emasculated that I feel like. Not at all. Are you kidding me already? Like, if anything like that is the biggest compliment that he wants to tie me down, that she's more opposed to me. I'm just like, What am I a trophy husband now? Like, Do I walk different? Do you talk to your friend? So I wear a monocle. Like, Where do I go from here? This is a How do I wear a monocle? Are you? I mean, the world is now your oyster like colors in the sky are brighter than ever. On my face, I will say he's such. I mean, I'm sure when every woman gets engaged, you know, and of course, you know, because you have this beautiful, massive rock on your hand, you know, you kind of show it off and you want everyone to see the bling. He's been doing that same exact thing. So honestly, for me, it's like, Oh, so so every photo we take. Let me, let me hold it with my left hand. Let me make sure that my left hand. All right. So there's only one real way to say this having a ring on your finger as a male, when your partner propose you as a female, you just feel like a bad b***h is boiled down plain and simple. Like, if you asked me, how does it feel that that Becca proposed you? I would say, You know what? Your honor? I feel like a bad b***h. You are that b***h. I rest my case. You know you are a bad b***h, and that ring is bad a*s. And I just think that must be such a cool feeling, too, because in my brain, I go, I can't wait to see a ring on Jason's finger like I should to be so hot and you probably didn't like expect better. Obviously, you didn't expect that or know what that would be like. And now you're like wearing it with pride when there's so many users not to call your friend a loser. But I feel like there's so many like so out of the norm that no one's ever really thought like they would be proposed to as far as like, well, I was men. Yeah, like, they can't relate to it before it happened. I couldn't relate to it, right? All of a sudden, I'm over your maniacally cackling and pure joy. It's amazing. I like we've received since we announced that we received so much support and love and well-wishes, which has been incredible. But of course, you have those people like on Instagram and through social media and of course, the trolls who you know anything good that happens. They have to try to diminish it or say something that goes against the grain and basically like course. I mean, there was so much love, but then there was also those like comments or DMs sprinkled in like, Oh, you must be desperate as the woman to propose to the man. And I would never do that and I would never want my man to do that. That's not traditional. And I'm like, How? Like, how? Explain to me, does this make me as a woman desperate to want to spend my life with this guy? Does it? It's the best thing ever. It just doesn't make sense in life. So there's always that, I would say, because as men especially like you to such situations and scenarios, we are desperate if you aren't desperate to spend the rest of our lives with you guys. Sweet. That was like, Yeah. And we were so fortunate that it's just misogyny. Like it's it's people just have these and it's the way they've been raised and it's all they know, and they would just not have the confidence to do that themselves. And like you said, people will tear you down no matter. I was in pure joy when Jason proposed to me and people were like, Oh my God, real classy, like swearing and blah blah blah. Like, they'll find anything. So the fact that you were like, I don't give a s**t and I love that Thomas, you're like, I don't give. This is a form of flattery, and I have a plan back and she's going to be just as surprised and excited. I just think it's so frickin romantic. You need to pitch this. Like, get on it. The executive producers of like Netflix show Make This a movie something because don't let other people die on that. If we do make this movie, I want you to play me in it. I, quite frankly, I'm looking at the Zoom. I don't know which screen is yours or which is mine. I can't tell us apart. Like, the similarities are there. I am a rather large figure, and I have been known to deadlift some pounds. So yeah, I could on the left hand to hold. That Rocky, I love it so many questions for you guys from listeners that are so cute. But before I do that, I hate even asking this book. And you guys said you, but you've talked about it. You've like, have you even? Because I will say, Jason, I kind of plan some stuff before we even got engaged. Have you already planned anything? What have you? Have you been like, OK, we're going to do it in San Diego or like around this time? Or are you still like, You know what? We're going to just enjoy this because that's what we've planned a bit we don't have. I get the final details on. No, no, no. When he says we plan to bet we have not planned, we've thrown out ideas because I know people listening are going to be like, Oh, they have plans, we don't. We have one. We want to throw an absolute rager. And so like a traditional wedding and things like that, I know one of the things that's big for us is we just want to party a chance just to celebrate. Not like us getting married, but just like life. Like maybe karaoke so hard you collapse another lung. I don't know. Sign me up. I'm too soon. Where's my nail? Yeah, we we haven't made plans. We I mean, we're assuming that it'll be in California just because we both love it here and be fun to get some of my family and friends out as a vacation. And and if family will be traveling, we want to make it like a weekend thing where it will snow, you know, ceremony and everyone has their sit down plated meal. It's going to be vastly different. So we're like, let's get a ton of food trucks. I look very into murder mystery clue. So I kind of want like some sort of like edgy theme like that if we go. So that's like all we've really talked about, but we just want to make it fun for everyone like, you know, no rules. No, all of this is what's expected. This is what weddings usually do. It's just like this one. Make it our own. So you're not going to like, throw the book and do a garter toss and all that. Well, I might have Thomas throw my book to all the groomsmen, and quite frankly, I might be wearing garters. I'm sure there is a line and I just crossed it. No, I'll be wearing guard. You know what podcast you're on? I like to not just flirt with the line like I like to like do a 5K like you just did over the line. Yeah, I'm not in a dress. Who knows? And I know what Easter I might have. Like a dope. I don't know how little. I don't feel like on a backwoods hat like Kylie Jenner. I'll be rocking like a Padres hat, and we'll just have like a veil. Cisco pads across it. But I play since I since I proposed to you. You get to plan the wedding. I would be phenomenal. Yeah, but see that the thing is, I like that you too are redefining and what a marriage is because it's not about who does what or what the traditions are. It's about who you are as a couple. And if you want to have food trucks and wear a pantsuit like that's, I can get down with that. I just like that. You, you make it what it is for you to whatever is special to you to. You know, it's just about love, about family and friends being together, about you wanting to spend the rest of your life together. And I just think it's going to it'll probably be the best wedding that we've ever built. I assume are invited that we've never been. They'll be there. If you or Jason aren't there, I'm going to be pissed. Oh, well, you're you're coming to ours too. But I never know if people would do like a huge one or an intimate, but I picture you too. If you're saying you have an arranger I pictured, we're going to have so many friends and family. There is no this is me. It's me. Yeah, I going to like, make them sit and wait around, you know, like, you know, it's like if the congregation or whatever it's called isn't slightly swaying from having a great time by the time the organization, we are not in church. Who knows? Let's get weird. Let's have some fun with it. You just have like a church choir singing in the background. Yeah, I do. Let's just see who's your favorite. Yeah, that is your favorite movie. So, you know, it's amazing, OK? This is questions from the rhinos. They are all so happy for the two of you. Ray Lee wants to know which dog gets to be the ring bearer. Ooh, I wouldn't trust it on minnow. I mean, I'm probably just not going to be minimal. He's low to the ground. There's me food trucks everywhere. She's gonna veer right hard after some sort of crumbles in the ring. Just going to be. Yeah, definitely. Oh, he's much more trustworthy. But me now. I mean, if we had a flower girl or, well, I really want a glitter girl. So I was thrown minnow. Probably join whoever that is. And then they could, you know, like, have you seen like the burro at like the wedding borough where it's like the donkey with like beers on the side of it or something? I want to do that with minnow, but we could have flower petals and glitter, and whoever is the flower girl or guy could be just pulling it out of her. Sounds like we cover leading rings and he just walks around looking like a sad, precious boy and everyone's just drink. We're going to get so creative with this wedding party. I. You like it. You're going to think of all of the best little details that are going to just make it so unique to you, too, which I love. I love this, Iryna said. Wedding planning fun. Pick two out of four. OK. OK. Open bar. Deejay photographer. Midnight Buffet. You can only pick two. A open bar. Yeah. Done your own playlist. Or you will have like a fun band. But yeah, food and drinks is like top, top on the list. OK, I like that. Mary wants to know how you finally decided to do the 5K after thinking about it. Some some of us need inspiration. Her name is Mary. Yes, Mary. There was no preparation. Thomas sprung it on me about 12 hours before and I just said, Oh God, yeah. There was no. So he was originally supposed to run a marathon. He got a double lung infection. Gosh, we were traveling. And so he obviously couldn't do the marathon, but he still wanted to take part in it because it's a huge thing in the community down in San Diego. I mean, also looking forward, it's like four and a half months. Yeah, for a long time. So you was like, I think I could do a 5K and I was like, You're going to still do it tomorrow. And this is it might do 12 hours before he's like, Yeah, and I was like, Do you want me? I don't even know. Did I ask you or did you ask me? So the best advice he marries, you got to go do just do it. She didn't even think about it, like without hesitation. No way I had. And before she knew it, she is like, I got a side cramp. Well, let's go. Yeah, but but I will say, Mary, you know what? The got me. And maybe if you're like me in a huge foodie when he said, we can carb up tonight and go to your favorite Italian restaurant, I said, Sign me up, sucker. Any time I can eat as much pasta and pizza as I want. How does fuel that is fuel for the body? Well, good for you. Congratulations on that. Because that's you, especially if you're not trained for it like it was, you know, and I know it's only three miles, but so I don't do cardio. I'm not a runner. I'm into yoga and lifting. And so for me, that was a no doubt is a lot. I'm telling you, I can't even do like five minute. A five minute run on a treadmill kills me because I'm the same as you. I like doing like lifting weights and that kind of thing, but cardio ain't my thing. And so that's impressive. And Thomas, did you do it? Did you do the 5K? Yeah, yeah. And it's inhaler. I had my inhaler with me. Your lungs are better. They're getting there right now. At one point, he he grabbed my hands and I was like, Pull me, pull me, please. So he's like pulling me up this hill. But we got it done. I'm a little nervous for the next time I see a snorkel, and I don't know if I'm natural s**t reaction. But what? How did that happen, though? Like it was just it was. We went on this big snorkel cruise where there's just there's like a 500 people cycling through every given day. Oh, they they wash the snorkel. And I guess mine was just haphazardly done. Yeah, I kind of just like dunk them in these big buckets and so forth. He just got it. I wasn't. I wasn't thinking about it during the time. Rose to use a snorkel. Yeah, people are cycling through and it's just like, Yeah, you know what? Thank you for the warning. I'll probably never do one by a coin. I mean, if you go to Hawaii, they have them everywhere. But I was like knowing what to get him for his birthday. 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Call five six two three one four four six zero three for complete details. OK, on this plan, we do a little game called How Do You Proceed? Where I put you in really, really uncomfortable situations and you have to tell me how you proceed, OK? OK. I love the abrupt transition. I'll sit down. Mark, how do you proceed? Because I also don't want to take too much of everybody's time because I'm like, not the oil is losing really bad. So I don't even care about watching the game. But I feel like when you know, after you get engaged and will Becca, you know this because I've been through a two from television, it's like you feel like you go on these interviews and people just want to ask you all these questions. And I'm like, I know, like, I really do want to know these things, but I also don't really take up your time and be like, Hey, I'm doing this for clickbait. Like, I hate that we I told Thomas I was like, because we obviously did. Happy hour. Yeah. And they while we insert shameless plug here, I told him I was the only other podcast I would do to talk about. This is with Kaitlyn. I was like, Kaitlyn's in that sense. Yeah, it was like a long day. And she's like, You want to do? Do you want to? Kaitlyn's podcast? I'm just like, I say, you stretch and fallen asleep before I even came on here. Yeah, because I had to wake up. That was that was a lot of a lot of my mom was just in town and had a lot of Minnesotan time. At the end of that one, I was like, Yeah, actually, I'll do Kaitlyn's podcast. If Kaitlyn felt like this was different, this is the only other what we're going to do. That's so nice. Thank you. I just love you guys so much, and I was so excited to talk to you about and like, And how do you proceed? OK, here we go. OK, Tommy says he wants to get married next month only in the courthouse. Becca, how do you proceed? I would say, are you sure? And then I would say, Okay, let's do it. Sounds accurate, I would say. OK, let's do it only if we can get our favorite burritos after why? After this break into the court ordering what I would know what I would be. Yes. OK. I actually would do because I'm like, I could really use a green card. I'm Canadian. OK, OK. One of you gets an amazing gig, but it requires you to both move to New York. How do you proceed? Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. OK. Oh yeah. We just want to get mono a muscle because she would eat everything off the ground missiles, not minnows. Not to be trusted around any scraps of food that would be New York. Yeah, but I feel like she would kind of thrive in New York. I thought you would thrive through the weight of 700 pounds. You be the world's largest corgi. She would love it, or she would absolutely love it. But like, yeah, she would gain a lot of weight real fast. Her corgi would be poppin. Oh, she would. She would be the Cardi B of Corgi. But like, you're walking down Brooklyn. She's like, This is my neighborhood. Yeah, totally. I could think for that. I thought, you guys are really going to hesitate because I know you love like California so much. But OK, you're doing it. Love New York, New York, OK? Your best friend gets to Liberty City at your wedding and can't make the best man or maid of honor. Speech had a busy weekend at Bernie's. We prop them up and we ad lib. It would be amazing. Yeah, or I would just I would just have the next person in line and say, you know, get in there. Go get em, Tiger and I. And then I would lose and draw a mustache or like a penis on whoever passed out. Yeah, that's a given. My sister, actually, my sister's the best when she's drunk. But if somebody's gotten too drunk to do a speech at my wedding, I'd be like, Whoa, chop and b***hes. If they were expected to do a speech and they got that drunk, like the repercussions are on them. Yeah, so like when they get propped up as an extra prop in the photo booth and people are like just doing right? Yeah, that's its various points. That's true. OK, last one. Thomas brings home another dog without consulting you, Becca. How do you proceed? I would. I would tell him to drop his pants and be so happy. Yeah. If that happened, we would be making sweet, sweet love very quickly, but only for five minutes. So then I can get puppy cuddle time. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is a lot of time with two and a half. Give me a good that give me a good day five minutes before feeling good. We're a bad b***h all over again. That just shows your love right there, OK? That just goes to show how attracted you are to each other. I take it as a good thing. It's a compliment, babe. Oh my gosh. OK, last game. This is my game I like to play. It's just the newly engaged game. You guys are going to play at ten million times with anything and anyone you talk to, but. Describe what you first thought of each other in one word. This this maniacal laughter is not a good version, maniacal laugh. Here's an example of what it didn't look like when I got in from Oh my god, I got laughs right there. Just made me start reassessing every decision I've made back to early adolescence. Go on, babe. What is your one word? If we're going off of like the first interaction we had in paradise, yes, walked away. And I think I said, he's a douche bag of you. She said one word, No. Get out of here. It's hyphenated. It's hyphenated. All you got to give context is canoe is two words each bag one word. Should I give context? I feel like you can't figure out how he's a douche bag. It's just and I will say it's not. And and this is so bad because he was actually being really respectful of his situation. But if anyone wants paradise, I came down halfway through the night right before a rose ceremony. He had gone through the ringer with guys on the season and he had just started seeing. He was seeing Tammy and he just like, didn't want to be like, he just didn't want the drama. And so he was trying to be respectful of that newly formed quote unquote relationship. And so when I went down there, basically the producers like, OK, you have like a couple of hours talked all the guys. Not even a couple of hours. They were like, you have a short amount of time talked to all the guys, get to know them. And so I was really just going through guys like five minutes at a time to talk to all of them. And when I went to him, he was like, No, sorry, I can't even talk to you. And I was like, Well, that's weird. Why can't you talk to me for five minutes? You know, I'm talking to everyone like, this is what they're telling me to do. And he's like, There's been a lot going on. I know you don't understand the drama because you just got here. But like, I kind of just started seeing somebody and I don't want to, you know, jeopardize that or be disrespectful. So, you know, in my mind, it is a lot like everyone's drinking and it was literally, I think, three or four in the morning at that point, I said. And so I walked away just being like, you know, like, f this dude. Totally. But in hindsight, it was very respectful. So I didn't actually mean that your d bag. Is this one of the first like, talk it out starts off as a douche bag and then it ends up respectful like that took such a wild turn. But for me, it was weird that you couldn't even talk to somebody. That's why he called me a declined credit card. I did not. I did not directly fight. I might have made a reference to something along those lines, but I did say a equals b. You're a declined credit card debt, basically. I mean, that's a really I might I might recycle that. But Alan? Sure. Well, if anything, it was just insufficient funds like the way my bank account set up is like, there's a waiting period. I got six hours like it was coming from another bank. I don't know what to give you. That's gotta give you a little peace of mind when you're going to marry this man and you're like, Wow, this is a loyal mother. Yeah, oh yeah, totally. So now look in hindsight, but that was like my first how do I do? I also went into paradise after like talking to you where you were like, Stay away from Thomas and Aaron and thanks that, Kaitlyn. Thanks for that. And the show was starting to air and people had all these issues with him. So that was all the back of my mind. So initially that was my like, Oh, I got to guard myself and protect myself. That was what I do. Apologize for that. I can't believe now knowing you, I can't believe I said that you and Aaron were the two people, because now I love you both. And I think Aaron's hilarious. But it's so funny because I actually get to see you guys and know you less than The Bachelorette. So like, I really do base it off what Katie tells me. And so then I'm like, OK, well, I'm there for her. So that's why I said that now I look back and I say my mind has been changed. Yeah, yeah. From douchebag to respectful. Look at that. Yeah, from douchebag to bad ass, b***h, we love that you got lucky. You got that ring on your finger back now. I love it. What was it? One word that you would use to describe Becca when you first met her? Nervous. Oh my gosh. You were. Yeah. Well, just in just in general because, yeah, we're nervous. Are you sure you trust my word? I used my word. Well, it's like an all encompassing thing, because you could tell she was nervous. She came down in a position where she is like, what? The woman? Oh, I'm nervous because I'm like, This woman's beautiful. I'm literally in the middle of a hurricane right now that also has a tornado and it's on fire. This is great. I'm fine. Third dumpster there at the bottom. Yeah. And then there is this. There's this spark. And I remember we were going to go and talk and I'm like, You know, I just can't. I just can't because I was conflicted. Yeah, there is. There's there could be something around. Fast forward that there's clearly something there. When first met, I would say, I would say the word was inert and it was such a quick interaction. But like the next time we actually were able to have a conversation. I mean, I, I like everything changed real quickly. But yeah, and then there's a there's actually a picture they didn't show us at all in our season, which is like that fine by me. Yeah, picture of our first interaction that wasn't actually shown, but there is a still photo released and you can see it all over my face right there. So even then, and I'm sitting there like looking at it with her arms crossed. There's a big gap in the middle of us and it's so funny now. And meanwhile, looking at her like she's my my double wrapped Chipotle burrito just filled with goodness. Just double me just drooling a little bit. Man, you know what? Now you have the gold card because you get her forever. You get burrito Becca forever. As nice as this ring, it does have a nice ring to it. OK. Where? Oh, you have to say this that the first time. So I'll give you five seconds to think about it, and then I'm going to count down at the same time. Uh huh.. OK. Where did you go on your first date? I'll give you five seconds to think about it. Wait, wait, wait. Post paradise or the world. Your first date. Host paradise. Follow up question after we're out of hiding or still hiding. After you're out of hiding, you're in the world as a couple. OK. Oh s**t, I know exactly where it was. A queue of five seconds, Thomastown ready. Three, two one. A hotel. That was our first date. It was then we went to the Chelsea Cutler concert. Oh, that was awesome. I have a sweatshirt. Yeah. Shadow Chelsea's cover. She killed it. Yeah. Yeah, that was our first like in public restaurants. I think it's character. Yeah, yeah. The car hotel. Yeah. And then and then, yeah, it was. That was at the Hollywood Bowl. No, the Griffith Griffith Park. Yeah, it was awesome. So to answer the question, our first dates, we spent a lot of time at parks and picnic having. We would always just go, we'd pick up food, we'd have picnics in parks and then have fun and with hats, and then we just play board games and hang out. Yeah, that's sweet. That's honestly that's like my ideal date night in general. Like even when you're not in hiding. Oh yeah. Bring the dogs. Bring wine all over them. It's the best. Sounds glorious. Becca, who is Thomas's celebrity crush? Mila Kunis from Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Very specific. Yes, that is the actual answer. It's not just like me, like, it's Mila Kunis in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. My favorite is when she's asking him, like, Are you OK? And he's like, Yeah, I just wish I wasn't wearing this shirt. We were actually just in Hawaii and we went to Turtle Bay Resort or we did, and we wanted to recreate the movie scenes, but we just didn't have enough time. Can I humblebrag for a second? And in return, it will actually make you guys feel cool too? Of course, please. This is when you were it like that. We'd be stupid. I I hate name dropping, but I'm going to because this is some. So I, my girlfriend is. She works with Lewis Hamilton for and I was there for F1 in Miami. And so we went to this party and there's so many celebrities there, like real ones, not like me. And I was like looking around like, Holy s**t, that's so it's holy s**t. That's so-and-so. And all of a sudden, I'm talking to one of our friends. What? Oh, no. Sorry, no. Michelle Obama was there one day she was in our suite for F1. She was literally sitting right next to me, and I would have had interviews for that. I would've been like, Where's the nearest bathroom? I was losing my noodle over that one. So standing there and then all of a sudden, Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher come up and I'm standing there, and then they kind of closed us out of the circle and my girlfriend was like, Oh, that's awkward. Like, clearly they don't want us there. And then I was like, If you watched, she watches the show and they both turned around and Mila comes up to me. She goes, I am so excited to meet you. And Ashton was like, You literally hit check when she checked me when she saw I was like, Do you know who that is? She was like, We are such big fans and they watch every single season, but we're on your. We're doing your season. No, they were on, Oh, I think they were on Rachel's. I think they were. Yes, they were. Rachel sued them for me. They they hosted a date. Yeah. Yeah, they're huge. Huge batch of fans. And I remember just being like, Oh my gosh, like because I think my celebrity crush for a woman might be Mila Kunis in that same movie. Yes, I don't blame you. And Ashton Kutcher, have you seen the movie spread? I don't think so. I did add it to your list, it's called spread, and it's Ashton Kutcher and Anne Hathaway. No, not Anne Hathaway and Hess. OK, this isn't new. No, it's so old and I'm obsessed with it. It's such a good movie. OK. And that was my humblebrag. But they, of course, know who you guys are because they watch every single season. So there you go, Tommy, who you might know who you are. I want to hear her first word and final word would be for you or for Ashton. For me. Now I'm now. Now I'm getting nervous poops over here. What is Mila Kunis? She, for sure, wants to. She was like, Why don't you take your hosting anymore? And I was like, Oh my God, tell the world, OK? Thomas, who is Becca's celeb, crushes celebrity crush Michael Strahan? Yeah, I was going to say, you know, like the messed up thing about that is it's like for me, my celebrity crushes Mila Kunis in a movie from 15 years ago. There's clearly some barriers and obstacles preventing me. She's a Bachelor fan, but but I can't go back in the time. I can't go out like she's a fictitious character. OK, one question on a first name basis with Michael. I have like, she's sitting there. She's like, Oh, Mikey, I'm like, Michael, like this? This is this. This scenario is not cut out of the same cloth. So we ever came back to my mom's house and we were sleeping in my childhood bedroom. He woke up. I looked over and I have a picture of Michael's very hands on my bed because, OK, I didn't buy myself this picture. I went on Ellen when I was Badshah, and she gave it after, which is like the important part. Like, I'm never going to throw that away. But this is creepy, as Michael Strahan is just here to like, write in my morning to wake me up. He's like, Can we move? He's like, Good Morning America. I'm like, No bigots. But imagine, like, you're at your mother in law's house for the first time, you slowly wake your eyes, fully open your eyes in the morning, greeted by what Michael Strahan? Yes, it could be worse. I bet you anything that that was a little bit of a day changer. Like you would have had a bad day, but you saw Michael Strahan space. You woke up and you had a great day. And that's all I know is it was a good day and we can't find out otherwise. So the signs Michael Strahan is the nicest human being on the planet, too, so that's a good at least. He's not like, you know, some a*****e jerk that you like. Who would be an example of that celebrities are? Do you wish to proceed? Is that the name of the game? I I want to proceed, and I would say, like, I don't know who's an a*****e celebrity. I'm trying to think of one. Ellen DeGeneres just kidding. She's my hero. But that went full circle because Ellen is the one who gave her the picture of Michael saying, Oh, there you go. So by default, she's not an a*****e by default. Mila Kunis loves us, and that's how I need to go to happily the time I love. We love you too, Mila. She totally listens to my podcast. Just going to OK. Becca is Thomas was an animal. What animal would he be? Oh, oh. Australian, you think so, because they no way I would say flattered. I don't want to say an all but like because he has an old soul. Like wise but still kind of sassy, quirky, maybe. Maybe just minnow. Yeah, I have to figure out how to slightly adjust this kind of look over. And then it shows fast. Oh, does she like that all the time? I feel like she does. Yeah, all the time. My gosh, she's so fast. I don't know. Actually, maybe you would be like a woolly mammoth. Maybe, yeah, or like a. Oh, you know what I will say, maybe like a dolphin because he's so carefree, free spirited and he likes to have sex with. Don't get me, we were five. Really? What's going on on the wrong? We're going in the wrong direction. Just such social animals, too. And he is like, he's always planning stuff and like, always wants to be with friends and family. Just like the more the merrier. So maybe a dolphin? OK, I like that. And Thomas, what would Becca be? What would Becker be because I like to sleep? I feel that. Are you going to be a sloth? Oh, you're not boring enough to be a slob. You want to be. If Becker says if she was any animal, she'd be a sea turtle by choice for that one because she's you. You said you'd want to come back with a story. Love sea turtles said this multiple times. Yeah. And then once I die, you can. Or once you die, who's put the sea turtle in the will and give it to the grandkids yet because they live a long time? You OK, I got take you answer this, I'm. I'm I'm you know, I think back would be some type of bonita fish. Bonita fish, a trophy fish because because they're they're beautiful. They're whimsical. They can also queue up if they so choose to use a trophy fish. Therefore, I'm dead over a mantle, but you're a trophy fish still in the ocean. OK, I'm in the live one. Yeah, live a bigger one with more colors and a lot more vibrancy. OK, you know what? I was really questioning you until you described it, and I was like, That's kind of their vibrant if they want to, but they're like nice and they're still loyal, whimsical, whimsical. They travel well in packs, but can also do their own thing. Are you making all of this stuff? I might be. Everybody wants to fish for you, but you're not going to reel just anybody in. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but this one's for me. I mean, like we can, we could keep on going. We really turn that one around. Yeah, that was good. OK. Last one, last one. What are each other's worst habits? Wait, actually, let me ask you this. Becca, what would you say Thomas would say is your worst habit? Being impatient. Me too. Yeah. OK. And what comments what would you say that Beckett would say about you? I am waiting. It's low, it's the opposite, yeah, so the opposite is true. Yeah, I really just do things on my own timeline. And so do I. Clearly, because she's just like, You know what? I'm going to propose. This is my timeline. I am, but need a fish. Have you seen the new Typekit movie? Oh, it's so. Is it good? It's great. I'm not kidding this mustache because of tack on that. OK. OK. You talk about Top Gun, but I'm just going to say they're so good. There's a scene in it at the beginning where Tom Cruise is like in this new airplane and they're trying to like break speed levels. So they call Mach 10 is their end goal. But he's only gotten to like Mark eight, and I'm like, I always function and Mark, 10, and Thomas, is that like a mark to sound like? We got to pick up the mark? I'm like, You got to be a Mach seven, buddy. You got to be a mark. Come on. It's a lot easier to stop and smell the roses of Mark two. And I like to get more s**t done at Mach nine, but you get it done more efficiently at mile s**t. Mm hmm. That's a good argument. That's a good argument, though, because I I am more of like a I'm like a mock five and Jason's like a 12. But here's the thing, though. And I know you're very similar in this regard. Our cruising speed is a mark five. However, when push comes to shove, we'll throw that thing the Mach 15. It can get very true. You go straight chaos, high traffic chaos. Like, I'm just chill and like, I'm just like, All right. Yeah, let's go. And then chaos is like, done. I think I was going to like, I think I want to write a book called I Thrive in Chaos because that is literally my Monday to Friday. If it's hectic, I will do much better work. Like, Let's pull on Alicia, my podcast producer right now, Alicia. Am I better when I am like under like the most chaotic experience ever? Yeah. Yes. Can confirm that is that is made to achieve it done. Yeah. But on the days where I don't have anything, I'm like. Oh, we've seen you with the days where you're hanging out with the dogs, you have sweatpants on the surface, open up a bottle of spade and sparrow and you're just literally me right now. We are we are switching this script. I want a confession from you. Can we do you guys have one? Because you tell me while I search from, I know I wrote down a couple. Well, I just talked about my nervy pubes for far too long. Tommy, do you have one? OK, I pose the first question. No, you don't try to get out of this. Yeah, you have to have. All right. You've never done this. Becca likes to talk, she's she's a big talker. OK. News flash. Yeah. Becca often repeat stories. OK, same. So instead of instead of saying, Hey, honey, the love of my life, I've heard this story. I'll just let her keep talking and I'll just zone her out. And those typically ended with just like Thomas, you're not even listening. You never listen to me then because this see something important that you miss. And then later on, I'm like, Dude, I told you this and I need it in what is sure? Say, like six minutes of story that I've heard, like 60 minutes of. And then she'll just sprinkle in a little fun fact at the end. And then I can't pick and choose what I'm zoning out. And it's either it's like, Yeah, confession is. You just zone her out. I think your confession is basically every man that you just have. Once again, that's not even a confession. When Jason and I were to propose it is because we are desperate because we do things like that. You know, if I tell the same story more than once, Jason's like, Yeah, this is his actual reaction. I can. I can do it to a T.. Honey, honey, you have already told me that story. Are you okay? I was like, That's what you're saying. You need some sort of therapeutic help here. You know, it's it reminds me of is OK. So the dad and friends, Monica and Ross's dad? Yeah. Like the funny parents. Like he is the dad. Yes. I already said this. My mom laughed so hard because she always calls me honey. But it's not honey. It's honey. I'm a picture like Linda Linda. I knew that. Wait, this is what my notes say. You're going to die. It says Period strings, vagina mirror. Having a Marco Polo, that's what my notes say, and I don't know what any of it means. That's a confession in itself. I know that might be like a murder confession, but it's the middle one half year. Yeah, it's like a game of glue hobby air with the tampon strings. I know what the vagina needed for national treasure or like. Yes, Engstrom da Vinci Code to figure out what just happened. Let's break it down. No, let's not now have year is I know that he is a guy that I used to be obsessed with when I was, like 18. Actually, no, I pretended to be obsessed with him when I was 18 because I had a crush on my hip hop teacher who loved him, so I pretended that I loved him to have. Who is this man? Just a random. He's a singer. I don't know. I think he had like one good album. It's amazing. I'll send you his music. It's actually really great now that I look back on it. But that's not that good. I think. I think the funniest part of that whole confession is just what's in my notes for. You know, that's pretty obvious. That's what's it called Thomas's little friend when we were little? No, no, no. You know, time out for my little friend. I know in this story we're going to put some respect on this one. I mean, I sat back, I didn't say anything when you have five minutes. I let out a couple of minutes with a little heavier effort. But the second you say, little, no hard stop. Excuse me, ma'am. We are blessed in this household. That's not even how we got in the carpet. Matches the drapes. I'm six. Ceiling tickets, oh, no, I'd like for another, this is where it gets good, I'm like, Tell me more, was it? Is that what I called it? Yes, I called you and we were in No, you names. You names my penis hobbyist rock band and it is Jerome Javier. I my I myself. You called me your room hobby. Oh yeah, that's right. And so how did we just get started on this? I don't. I don't know. I all this started air. All this started with a vagina. You know, when it's all said and done, it all comes down to vagina. Mirror that when I looked it, was there anything else in life? Have you looked at your vagina in a mirror before? I have not. I personally have not. You must know, honey. Yeah. Well, you're getting a good angle, though. That's why. The great angles, the back side, the first signs of the Mona Lisa. No, I have actually I'd like to think when I was little, yes, see what I worked with. I guess it got a lot of people on the ground and stand over. It was a lot of questions about growing up, like I had the full body mere like as a closet door. So I was like, I want to just know. So you do like a cartwheel? No, sir. You just like push the button up a little bit close and then you sit up and you know, you know, like when you, you know, when you lay on your back and you like, lift your pelvis up and you have your hands under like this and your legs straight in the yeah, yeah, you just do like a backwards bridge into the mirror. Yeah, something like that. Give it a go sometimes. Yeah. Let us know what you see next time you go to the grocery store, report back so you do anything fun and interesting. When I was gone, oh you, I got a story. Next time we podcast is when you proposed to Becca, and then we'll talk about how you saw your nutsack in the mirror. The the nutsack mirror. The notes on your notes. I put it in your notes as set an alarm. A reminder. Kaitlyn, I feel like your note should be in the format of like random words cut out of different newspaper magazines like ransom notes. Yes. Picture your notes or like post you print. It's like a vision board for the. Just like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, that sounds good. Oh my gosh, I love you too. It's so much fun. I miss you. We do miss you. We're coming out to Nashville, where this week we went through Friday this week. Yeah. Yes, I'm here. Let's get together. Oh my god. Can we please just have you over for a c**ktail or meet you out or something like we would love to say congratulations in person? Jason told me. He's that hockey right now. He told me to say congrats to both of your things. And we would love to either host you or take you for a drink or something. Yeah, oh, definitely. I want to see you guys, so we'll plan out. Have you been the Virgin Hotels and have their breakfast sandwiches? Serious question. Have I been to Virgin Hotels, the Kerry Spade and sparrows, but have had their breakfast sandwiches? No, I haven't. OK, no, no. We had to do Virgin Hotel breakfast sandwiches with glass of champagne or bottle. Done. Absolutely done. We have heard about these breakfast sandwiches. Somebody else told me about them, Oh, I'm Clayton and Susie. I f**king told Plane to go in it, even though he didn't even go. There are so good to the point that when we did because we were there for Ben's wedding back in November, yes, we got that. We ordered way too many every single day and we kept posting about them. So no assistance from the wedding. And they weren't like the kitchen wasn't even open anymore, but they had made us and wrapped us up a bunch of breakfast sandwiches and put them outside of our door. And we have been dreaming about my God since November. OK, then we could go to the speakeasy there afterwards. Done. Absolutely done, Salles. That's what we're doing because I love to hug you both and buy you a drink and say, congratulations. I'm so happy. OK, I love you guys. Love you, too. Bye. Hi, I'm Kaitlyn Bristowe. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening to off the line with Kaitlyn Bristowe. 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Kail's Potato Party

This week Kail and Becky discuss Kail's Birthday trip with Elijah; their first time away without the kids. Becky talks about her worries bringing baby Becks into a not so tolerant world diving into how to even begin navigating and proccessing that. Becky asks a question later in the episode that really gets the girls reflecting on their growth.

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FOR THE HAYTERS S2E10 - Lyme, Mental Illness & Getting Well

Listen in to Adrienne, the founder of WellBe, talk about her path to becoming a patient advocate to empower people in their health journey. What lead her there and her personal life experiences with Lyme Disease.
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Rekindling Friendships; is it worth the karma OR the chaos?

This week Kail & Becky explore the complexities of rekindling friendships, particularly in the public eye, and the emotional nuances involved in navigating personal relationships. They discuss the impact of public perception on friendships and how Kail is in quite a unique circumstance in life when it comes to friendships and the question; is it worth it to rekindle a friendship? Later in the episode we hear from Leah about baby Beck's progress! The ladies don't have an Is It Karma Or Is It Chaos for you this week's because they need your write ins! Email the ladies at info@karmachaospodcast.com

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FOR THE HAYTERS S2E9 - A Spiritual Coach?s Guide to The Universe

Listen in to hear Christina talk about her journey with finding her purpose in life. She talks about her path that lead to helping others, the decisions that she needed to make to allow her to get there, and the structure behind being a Spiritual Coach.

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Are The Karmaroos Smarter Than A Fifth Grader

This week Kail & Becky are testing their knowledge and seeing if they are indeed smarter than a fifth grader. Later in the episode the ladies discuss fiances in a realtionship and all the different ways couples split them. This leads into a conversation about wether or not college is neccessary and is it really all about WHO you know vs WHAT you know. 

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FOR THE HAYTERS S2E8 - Taking Control of Your Anxiety

Listen to Christina talk about her journey with anxiety. She talks about when it started, how it changed her life, and how she takes back control.

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Reading Your Comments

This week Kail and Becky are reading your comments and some are just plain diabolical. The ladies are also celebrating Becky?s recent credit milestone! This week?s Is It Karma or Is It Chaos submission leads the ladies to wonder; is it ever okay to judge a mom?

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FOR THE HAYTERS S2E7 - Weight Loss is More Than A Physical Journey

Listen in to James talk about his journey with weight loss. The mental take it took on his childhood, and how he takes control today.

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It's Over For WaWa

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