The Jordan Harbinger Show

240: Richard Clarke | Defending Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats

Richard Clarke (@richardclarke) served for 30 years in national security policy roles in the US government and worked directly for three presidents. He is the host of the Future State Podcast and co-author of The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats.

What We Discuss with Richard Clarke:

  • How we're in constant low-grade cyber conflict with Russia, China, Iran, and other adversarial nation states -- and the forms this can take.
  • Cyber crime was a $600 billion industry (one percent of global GDP) in 2018, much of it perpetrated by rogue nations like North Korea.
  • How cyberattacks can be (and have been) used to wreak physical damage on infrastructure, and why we should take them as seriously as traditional weaponry.
  • Is it the government's job to protect private companies against cyberattacks from foreign powers, or is it up to private companies to be responsible for their own safety?
  • Why there's a crisis-level shortage of cybersecurity expertise coming out of our country's most serious tech schools, and where it's being found instead.
  • And much more...

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